On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:59:32 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:35:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684gzj1mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.macrumors.com/guide/m1/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah like Intel and AMD are incapable of that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least for now that is correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a religious nut, bowing to the god of Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. I am an atheist... even in computers I say use what is best for you.
>>>>
>>>> Your logic has failed then, because Apple is never the best choice.
>>>
>>> If it is not for you then don't get one.
>>
>> It's not for anyone. It's incompatible with most people. It costs more for the
>> same specs. You have a smaller base of programs and people to help you with
>> it.
>
> You say you do not like Macs but went out of your way to make a Hackintosh. :)

It wasn't out of my way, I was building a normal desktop PC, just out of particular parts.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:59:50 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:34:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684forgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:19:33 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:37:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.06435lszmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:52:13 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:36:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.061pukzwmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:27:51 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 13:15:16 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 20/07/2021 16:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Why do laptops take air from underneath which won't work on your lap?
>>>>>>>>>> It should come in one side and out the other.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They're not designed to actually sit on your lap... :-/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They're called laptops for a reason, that's where the home ones go.
>>>>>>>> Office ones might be on a desk or train table.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Buy one that suits your needs, then. Don't bitch about having bought
>>>>>>> something that doesn't work for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's called "laptop" it should work on a lap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many call them notebooks.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't heard that word for 2-3 decades. I have heard lapdog though.
>>>
>>> Dell calls them laptops: https://www.dell.com/
>>>
>>> Apple calls them notebooks: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/
>>>
>>> Sorta funny how the ones more suited for the lap are not called laptops. :)
>>
>> I think "tablet" is the stupidest name - a tablet makes me think of a slab of
>> stone.
>
> Would be hard to swallow that!

Nobody ever laughs at a pun.

On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:06:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cu9qpjmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>
>>
>> Well, aren't *YOU* one of God's "special" little parasites?
>>
>> One thing seems for sure at this point: only the fucking brain-dead idiots,
>> the poorest, the most ill-informed, and the most vulnerable among us will
>> die from COVID-19 while the virus perpetuates itself because insolent
>> assholes refuse to protect all of mankind by submitting to the simpliest of
>> procedures and protocols...
>>
>> Reminds me of that poem, 'If', by Rudyard Kipling.
>
> You're confused, first you say only the ill-informed will die, then you say
> we're endangering others.

You increase your risk of infection and the risk you push onto others.

It is like someone in a boat, saying they are only digging a hole in their own
cabin so others should not try to control them. Or someone saying that the
government should not tell them to drive on a specific side of the road.

Selfish and short sighted and not seeing the overall impact they have... or
not caring.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:01:25 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:33:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684dkasmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:16:42 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:39:23 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.06437xjnmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>>>>> Buying back guns from lawful owners simply means that when the thugs who
>>>>>>> got them illegally decide to commit crimes, nobody will be able to stop
>>>>>>> them. If your country gives you the right and the ability to defend
>>>>>>> yourself, why the heck would you sacrifice it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea is the thugs are less likely to be able to obtain one (eg. by
>>>>>> stealing it from a legal owner).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's interesting reasoning but it doesn't seem to be realistic. Besides,
>>>>> considering how tyrannical the governments of the world have already
>>>>> become with their reaction to the Kung Flu,
>>>>
>>>> Agreed on that.
>>>
>>> They should be requiring vaccinations for more things. End the damned
>>> pandemic.
>>
>> Forcing anyone to do anything is always wrong.
>>
>> It's just a bad flu! Stop making a mountain out of a molehill!
>
> It is not a flu, nor is it very similar to one other than how it spreads.

It makes you feel like anything form "a bad cold" to "a horrid flu" from what people have said.

> But the fact people will not even do very basic things to protect each other
> from this pandemic is a great refutation of libertarianism. It simply does not
> work in the real world.

These things are unnecessary as the chances of you dying are minimal.

>>>>> I am not sure that as an
>>>>> American, I would be willing to make it even easier for them to bully me
>>>>> around than it already is.
>>>>
>>>> The UK manages without guns.
>>>
>>> They are "tyrannical" with that, eh?
>>
>> We don't think anything of it. Nobody here except madmen have a desire to own
>> a gun. People do not feel threatened and want to defend themselves. Mainly
>> because of the lack of criminals with guns.
>
> But you want to control people and deny them their guns, eh?

Libertarianism allows for a small amount of control - eg. locking up murderers.

On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:09:30 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvd4j6mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:57:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684o9yomvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even with Intel Macs it is not as easy as many seem to think.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was fucking easy. Mainly just the motherboard needs to be the same, in my
>>>>> case it was Foxconn boards.
>>>>
>>>> Motherboard and GPU and other components. And even then you might be one macOS
>>>> update away from not being able to use it (with the update).
>>>
>>> Ok, maybe the GPU. But everything else is pretty standard.
>>>
>>> And I disagree on the update. If any combination is ok with version X, it will
>>> be ok with version X+1, otherwise Apple would be killing off genuine Apples
>>> too.
>>
>> I have heard horror stories of folks who have one only to have Apple change
>> things and make them no longer work (with the new upgrade). Even have this on
>> minor updates.
>>
>> Not sure how common it is though... I have never made one.
>>
>>>
>>>>>> And if you did
>>>>>> do it there was no reason to think the machine would be supported, and if you
>>>>>> ran into issues no way to get support from Apple, and Apple offers excellent
>>>>>> support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who asks for support from Apple/Microsoft? We use Google.
>>>>
>>>> I run into issue where Google has no answers.
>>>
>>> In which case nobody will.
>>
>> Worked recently with Apple on some odd issues a neighbor was having. In the
>> end, I admit, they were not of much help... ended up doing a backup, wiping
>> the drive, and starting from scratch. Never had to do that before. They were
>> having very weird permissions issues... things would be allowed sometimes
>> until they gave permission, then they were not allowed at all. Tried a new
>> user. Re-installed the OS. Created another new user. No dice.
>>
>> Wiped the drive and brought their data back... and all was good. Very odd.
>
> Computers are getting too complicated and too random. They used to be simple
> and would do the same thing under the same circumstances. The only good thing
> about that is if one crashes, you can do exactly the same thing and it
> probably won't the next time.

I have seen oddities since the start of computers... though back in the days
of the Apple II I never did have to wipe a hard drive. :)

>
>>>>>>>> Not only do you get the hardware about half the price, but you don't have
>>>>>>>> to pay for the OS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> macOS has been free for the best part of a decade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You pay for it with the hardware... he is talking about pirating.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a very naughty boy.
>>>>
>>>> You are.
>>>
>>> Spank me.
>>
>> Can I take videos as I do it?
>
> Only if you have a Sony steadycam.

Just ordered one from Amazon!

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:31:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684bcp4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:15:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0644cgstmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>>>>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>>>>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>>>>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>>>>
>>>> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
>>>> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
>>>> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.
>>>
>>> My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
>>> computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
>>> RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.
>>
>> The computer above ended up with a free upgrade to 80MB when the 40MB disk
>> failed and they didn't have any spares. They also replaced the motherboard for
>> free when I shorted it out. Just because a serial printer uses the same
>> connector as a parallel printer, does not mean it's electrically compatible.
>
> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
> fix that.

To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:53 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:30:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.06838qlumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:13:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:15 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0644f1rmmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:08:31 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.063l0hysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:50:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:31:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.061pm5avmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it at
>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was a fun game... and you can STILL play it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.retrogames.cz/play_493-DOS.php?language=EN
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not understand the desire to play outdated quality stuff. This is what I
>>>>>> play: https://youtu.be/IbnW213nRO8
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not much of a gamer... unless you count chess, but no real computer power
>>>>> needed for that. Even then I play about 1 game a day on average.
>>>>
>>>> Fallout 4 is better than real life. In fact I regularly do something in real
>>>> life and think Fallout 4 would have made it easier to do that.
>>>
>>> Glad you enjoy.
>>
>> Being able to insert some old tin cans and toothbrushes into a workshop and
>> having it create a fence is cool.
>
> Never played so do not get the reference.

Part of the game is building settlements. If you've collected anything which contains the things you need, eg. aluminium, gears, plastic, then you just insert those into the "workshop" and ask it to produce the thing you want.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:03:13 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:29:41 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.06837rvdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0644g0qumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:57 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.063lujpgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, integrated graphics is a compromise. It'll manage a powerpoint
>>>>>>>>>> presentation....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course it is a compromise -- the world is full of them. With the Macbook
>>>>>>>>> Air it is designed to be lightweight and have a long battery life, and while
>>>>>>>>> it fits a lot of needs it is not a gaming machine. But it absolutely does have
>>>>>>>>> a GPU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surely one could be made that has a fan, but is only used if you start gaming
>>>>>>>> on it? Just because a powerful chip is in there, doesn't mean it has to be
>>>>>>>> used all the time. Being able to connect the screen to either the onboard or
>>>>>>>> the GPU would be a good idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could make a machine with multiple CPUs and GPUs and more... but it would
>>>>>>> be bigger and more expensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. You can already buy machines with a seperate GPU. Why not just take one of
>>>>>> those, but disable the GPU until you load a game etc? The built in graphics of
>>>>>> the CPU could then take over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not all CPUs have integrated graphics. So you pay more for a CPU with the
>>>>> integrated graphics then add a GPU to it. Then you can add an external GPU.
>>>>
>>>> It costs virtually nothing compared to the seperate GPU. A lot of desktops
>>>> I've had have built in graphics and a seperate card.
>>>
>>> Desktops have less concern about heat and energy.
>>
>> Anything that's not doing calculations should emit no heat. My 6 month old
>> Ryzen 3900XT CPU is absurd. It uses 150W at full power, but 40W when idle.
>> WTF is it doing to use 40W?
>
> Idling. :)

A human is better, it uses 150W at idle and 3-8000W at full blast. Although we do get tired.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:04:03 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:44:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684v4uymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:52:35 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.066946wpmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:08 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:46:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0644jgo5mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:58:20 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:03:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.063lr600mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They are very clear it has no fan. There is no lie. But if you don't want one
>>>>>>>>>>> don't get one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Might not technically be a lie, but it's still misrepresentation. Look at this
>>>>>>>>>> powerful OR quiet machine....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To a large extent that is the choice you make. Another comparison I recently
>>>>>>>>> watched:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Air gets amazing reviews. And notice being "quiet" is one of the reasons
>>>>>>>>> listed (as is price, power, video rendering, instant wake on open, no power
>>>>>>>>> throttling on battery, excellent keyboard, excellent build, excellent monitor,
>>>>>>>>> etc.) Only thing noted it is not good for: gaming (which is no surprise).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the fan comments: https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k?t=522
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You might not notice the fan noise... until you use a system which has no such
>>>>>>>>> noise. I know for me I am bothered by fan noises. I appreciate the low sound
>>>>>>>>> of Apple products.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With zero fan noise you're in danger of hearing traffic noises outside.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure. Still nice to have a quiet computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't matter how quiet it is, something will annoy me, like the cooling
>>>>>> fan on a Sky TV box, or a refridgerator in the next room. Your ears have
>>>>>> automatic level control. But the most annoying thing is a change in noise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might not matter to you... does to me and to others.
>>>>
>>>> I guess you have bad hearing.
>>>
>>> I have very sensitive hearing... but have a hard time "blocking out"
>>> background noise. Comes with the dysautonomia I have.
>>
>> Then you should be like me. If you stop an annoying noise, you just end up
>> hearing the next loudest one.
>
> Distance also plays some role in it. I do not mind noises as much if they are
> not as close.

Annoyance = volume/distance.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:04:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:43:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684vcpamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:51:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.06695xu0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:23 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:45:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0644hq2omvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:57:57 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:08 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.063ls6u3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks, the fan makes no detectable noise when spinning at minimum speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It can run at lower speeds because of the making use of convection cooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once it's spinning, convection cannot occur. The air is moving faster than
>>>>>>>>>>>> convection.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One force does not stop when another starts, and presumably the fan is not
>>>>>>>>>>> running all the time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Slow fans are not audible by humans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When needed they speed up... and I bet what you say is not audible often is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Convection is not as good as a speeded up fan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure... but those made to work with convection have that as an advantage. As
>>>>>>> you note, though, there are tradeoffs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's coming through the same hole, convection does nothing at all when the
>>>>>> fan is running.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you figure?
>>>>
>>>> Because the speed of the air forced by even a slow fan is an order of
>>>> magnitude faster than convection.
>>>
>>> That would imply it does little, not nothing.
>>
>> I'd say negligible compared to a fan. It might be enough when the computer is
>> idling, but if the fan runs at all, it's 10 times more cooling.
>>
>>> Would be interesting to see how much effect it really has. I suspect you get
>>> much more with a vertical computer like an iMac than you do with a "flat"
>>> computer like a laptop.
>>
>> Maybe, maybe not. If it's vertical, warm air from the bottom component is
>> rising past the next component so it cools not so good.
>
> I think it works by having the hottest components at the top. Not sure.

I tend to set up fans that way, so the cool air crosses the disks first, ending with the GPU.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:05:16 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:42:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684sklomvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:48:48 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:30:21 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0669kvbpmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 07:48:03 +0100, LegionX
>>>> <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HHI <HHI@imaginary.friend.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/25/21 11:24 PM, LegionX wrote:> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> Wrote
>>>>>> in message:> >> One would think... but Gremlin was posting saying there was
>>>>>> an explosion but he had not heard from himself.<>Gremlin didn't post
>>>>>> anything. We did. We again invite you to> support your socking accusation
>>>>>> snit. We supported ours when we> called you out for socking up as Sigmond.>
>>>>>>>> Gremlin is not the sharpest tool in the shed, no matter what name he
>>>>>> posts under.<>On Gremlins *worst days* he can still mop the floor with you
>>>>>> on> *any tech subject* with fuckin ease. Any of us can.> >Gremlin only
>>>>>> posts under one handle
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shit. I forgot to mention Diesel.<> Snit. Diesel isn't a sock of Gremlins.
>>>>>> It's an old handle he used
>>>>> for the purposes of making things more difficult for the remailer
>>>>> who revealed they had newbie level usenet search
>>>>> skills.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you like to try again girlyman?
>>>>>
>>>>>> You know what we mean you sock using asshole.<> We aren't mind readers. And
>>>>>> even if one of us was - snits is far
>>>>> too over self medicated on benzos and booze for us to read
>>>>> his.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody fucking cares.
>>>
>>> Gremlin has forgotten how to wrap. Odd.
>>
>> You mean learned how to not wrap.
>
> Or wrap properly.

It's a stupid thing to do, as you have no idea how wide the recipient's monitor is.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:06:04 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:41:53 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684r3yqmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:48:12 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:30:41 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0669lf0emvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:59:34 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:01:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.063lovo2mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:22:10 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2021-07-23 2:56 p.m., LegionX wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "delta variant" is basically one that was created by those who chose
>>>>>>> to get "vaccinated" with a concoction that is likely to kill them. It is
>>>>>>> more contagious but also less potent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody is sticking any shit into my arm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor is anyone asking to.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope they start demanding proof of vaccination once it gets full FDA
>>>>> approval (which is likely coming soon).
>>>>
>>>> By which time it'll have been long gone anyway.
>>>
>>> Sadly a lot of people believe that fantasy.
>>
>> Go look at the deaths on worldometer.
>
> OK? Does not break out the cause.

It shows they're diminishing. Anyway, once we've all had it, nobody else can catch it.

On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:15:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvnzs7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:53 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:30:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.06838qlumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:13:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:15 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0644f1rmmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:08:31 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.063l0hysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:50:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:31:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.061pm5avmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it at
>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was a fun game... and you can STILL play it:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.retrogames.cz/play_493-DOS.php?language=EN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not understand the desire to play outdated quality stuff. This is what I
>>>>>>> play: https://youtu.be/IbnW213nRO8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not much of a gamer... unless you count chess, but no real computer power
>>>>>> needed for that. Even then I play about 1 game a day on average.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fallout 4 is better than real life. In fact I regularly do something in real
>>>>> life and think Fallout 4 would have made it easier to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Glad you enjoy.
>>>
>>> Being able to insert some old tin cans and toothbrushes into a workshop and
>>> having it create a fence is cool.
>>
>> Never played so do not get the reference.
>
> Part of the game is building settlements. If you've collected anything which
> contains the things you need, eg. aluminium, gears, plastic, then you just
> insert those into the "workshop" and ask it to produce the thing you want.

Got it. Have seen similar... though can't even remember where.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:14:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvmcmzmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:31:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684bcp4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:15:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0644cgstmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>>>>>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>>>>>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>>>>>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
>>>>> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
>>>>> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.
>>>>
>>>> My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
>>>> computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
>>>> RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.
>>>
>>> The computer above ended up with a free upgrade to 80MB when the 40MB disk
>>> failed and they didn't have any spares. They also replaced the motherboard for
>>> free when I shorted it out. Just because a serial printer uses the same
>>> connector as a parallel printer, does not mean it's electrically compatible.
>>
>> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
>> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
>> fix that.
>
> To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!

Try it on a new M1!

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On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:06:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:41:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.0684qxuumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:44:03 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:32:03 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0669npfjmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:24:26 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 10:58:30 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.063ljs0rmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:52:44 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:36:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.061pvodtmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess the issue is that Microsoft lost the desire to develop Windows RT
>>>>>>>>>>> (on Arm) due to the poor performance and unwillingness of third parties.
>>>>>>>>>>> That in turn meant intel didn't really have a market for a desktop Arm CPU
>>>>>>>>>>> so why would they bother?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apple had the advantage of building both the OS and CPU together so that it
>>>>>>>>>>> was a mature product when launched.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And they have millions of gullible users to pay through the nose for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Say I disagreed -- it is those same people you trust to voluntarily pay for
>>>>>>>>> services you think are important.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't want anyone to pay for anything they don't use themselves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't use the fire department until you need it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have home insurance. That would cover the fire department. But you could
>>>>>> choose to risk it and have no insurance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Home insurance does not pay for the fire department, they pay for fire damage.
>>>>> And they certainly do not pay to cover the 20+ fires burning within 20 miles
>>>>> or so of me.
>>>>
>>>> They could if the government stopped doing so.
>>>
>>> Who would pay?
>>
>> The insurance, since you have a policy which includes fire.
>
> My insurance does not cover forest fires 20 miles away from me. Does yours?

It would if the fire threatened your home. They are paid to make sure your home stays intact. They don't want to have to pay out for everything in your home, so they put the fire out. If the forest fire was threatening 500 homes, that's 500 policies that would pay for the fire to be put out.

>>> Hell, the libertarian fantasy is being destroyed (again) right now. People
>>> won't even wear a mask to help save their neighbor... and you think they will
>>> pay for things they are not forced to?
>>
>> My neighbour is free to wear one himself.
>
> But you will not wear one to protect him. That is my point.

I don't have to, as he has one on.

On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:14:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvmcmzmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:31:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684bcp4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:15:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0644cgstmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>>>>>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>>>>>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>>>>>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
>>>>> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
>>>>> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.
>>>>
>>>> My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
>>>> computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
>>>> RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.
>>>
>>> The computer above ended up with a free upgrade to 80MB when the 40MB disk
>>> failed and they didn't have any spares. They also replaced the motherboard for
>>> free when I shorted it out. Just because a serial printer uses the same
>>> connector as a parallel printer, does not mean it's electrically compatible.
>>
>> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
>> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
>> fix that.
>
> To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!

With the Apple IIgs I had a card and then a "daughter card" on that card. And
then the hard drive was on a card next to those. All squished together. Had to
put cardboard from a cereal box between them to stop them from touching.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvk1c4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:01:25 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:33:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684dkasmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:16:42 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:39:23 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.06437xjnmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Buying back guns from lawful owners simply means that when the thugs who
>>>>>>>> got them illegally decide to commit crimes, nobody will be able to stop
>>>>>>>> them. If your country gives you the right and the ability to defend
>>>>>>>> yourself, why the heck would you sacrifice it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea is the thugs are less likely to be able to obtain one (eg. by
>>>>>>> stealing it from a legal owner).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's interesting reasoning but it doesn't seem to be realistic. Besides,
>>>>>> considering how tyrannical the governments of the world have already
>>>>>> become with their reaction to the Kung Flu,
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed on that.
>>>>
>>>> They should be requiring vaccinations for more things. End the damned
>>>> pandemic.
>>>
>>> Forcing anyone to do anything is always wrong.
>>>
>>> It's just a bad flu! Stop making a mountain out of a molehill!
>>
>> It is not a flu, nor is it very similar to one other than how it spreads.
>
> It makes you feel like anything form "a bad cold" to "a horrid flu" from what
> people have said.

And it leaves 1/3 of those with it with lasting damage. And kills far more.
How many do you personally know who have died from it.

>> But the fact people will not even do very basic things to protect each other
>> from this pandemic is a great refutation of libertarianism. It simply does not
>> work in the real world.
>
> These things are unnecessary as the chances of you dying are minimal.

Already reduced the life expectancy in the US by one year. The chances of
dying going through a traffic light are very low -- so why should I be
required to stop at red light?

>
>>>>>> I am not sure that as an
>>>>>> American, I would be willing to make it even easier for them to bully me
>>>>>> around than it already is.
>>>>>
>>>>> The UK manages without guns.
>>>>
>>>> They are "tyrannical" with that, eh?
>>>
>>> We don't think anything of it. Nobody here except madmen have a desire to own
>>> a gun. People do not feel threatened and want to defend themselves. Mainly
>>> because of the lack of criminals with guns.
>>
>> But you want to control people and deny them their guns, eh?
>
> Libertarianism allows for a small amount of control - eg. locking up murderers.

Who pays? And why jump to murderers? Only a very small percentage of guns are
used in murders.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:12:28 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvi212mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:59:50 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:34:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684forgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:19:33 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:37:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.06435lszmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:52:13 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:36:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.061pukzwmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:27:51 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 13:15:16 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 20/07/2021 16:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do laptops take air from underneath which won't work on your lap?
>>>>>>>>>>> It should come in one side and out the other.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They're not designed to actually sit on your lap... :-/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They're called laptops for a reason, that's where the home ones go.
>>>>>>>>> Office ones might be on a desk or train table.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Buy one that suits your needs, then. Don't bitch about having bought
>>>>>>>> something that doesn't work for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's called "laptop" it should work on a lap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many call them notebooks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't heard that word for 2-3 decades. I have heard lapdog though.
>>>>
>>>> Dell calls them laptops: https://www.dell.com/
>>>>
>>>> Apple calls them notebooks: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/
>>>>
>>>> Sorta funny how the ones more suited for the lap are not called laptops. :)
>>>
>>> I think "tablet" is the stupidest name - a tablet makes me think of a slab of
>>> stone.
>>
>> Would be hard to swallow that!
>
> Nobody ever laughs at a pun.

They have groan on you.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:12:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvilr7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:59:32 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:35:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684gzj1mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.macrumors.com/guide/m1/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah like Intel and AMD are incapable of that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At least for now that is correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are a religious nut, bowing to the god of Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. I am an atheist... even in computers I say use what is best for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your logic has failed then, because Apple is never the best choice.
>>>>
>>>> If it is not for you then don't get one.
>>>
>>> It's not for anyone. It's incompatible with most people. It costs more for the
>>> same specs. You have a smaller base of programs and people to help you with
>>> it.
>>
>> You say you do not like Macs but went out of your way to make a Hackintosh. :)
>
> It wasn't out of my way, I was building a normal desktop PC, just out of
> particular parts.

And just happened to make one that would work as a Hackintosh, and then got
macOS and installed it. Hmmmm....

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Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> posted this via
news:sduvsv$p9j$1@dont-email.me:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:53:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.06694nf0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 16:38:48 +0100, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LegionX <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> posted this:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone
>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's where our government and especially our subservient news
>>>>> media are letting the general public down, over simplified:
>>>>>
>>>>> "[My] People are destroyed for lack of knowledge." -- Hosea 4:6
>>>>>
>>>>> The COVID-19 "vaccinations" ONLY prevent the recipient[s] from
>>>>> getting seriously ill or dying from the virus. It DOES NOT prevent
>>>>> you from CONTRACTING the disease; CARRYING the virus; or, INFECTING
>>>>> OTHERS with the virus!
>>>>>
>>>>> These "vaccinations" DO NOT operate like insecticides and "kill the
>>>>> virus".
>>>>>
>>>>> They merely train specific human RNA strains to resist the virus
>>>>> attaching to a specific protien which causes immune system reactions
>>>>> which are so severe that it makes people severely ill or kills
>>>>> them...
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget that at the outset of this "pandemic" it was well
>>>>> publicized that ONE OF THE REASONS THIS VIRUS is so virulent is
>>>>> because an infected host (human) can carry and transmit the virus
>>>>> for ~2-weeks BEFORE showing any symptoms...
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, if you have the "vaccination[s]" - and are otherwise
>>>>> relatively healthy - and you contact the virus and IN FACT be
>>>>> "infected" but you simply will not get seriously ill or die from
>>>>> it... BUT you still CARRY THE VIRUS and CAN INFECT OTHER PEOPLE -
>>>>> WHO CAN IN TURN INFECT STILL MORE PEOPLE... AD INFINITUM - before
>>>>> the virus inside you dies because it cannot attach to the protien it
>>>>> needs to make you sick... IF you are otherwise relatively healthy...
>>>>
>>>> Which is one of the reasons not to get vaccinated. You're actally
>>>> more dangerous as you don't realise you're infected and contact more
>>>> people.
>>>
>>> No, you are not. The amount of misinformation is absurd.
>>
>> The misinformation is because nobody knows.
>
> Wrong as usual. The vaccines reduce transmission by 80% after the first
> dose and 90% after both.
> https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm
>
>> Best to ignore "scientists" who all disagree with each other. I've
>> heard a doctor (a surgeon) say the masks we wear are of no use
>> whatsoever. Unless we all used surgical masks, we might aswell not
>> bother.
>
> So you prefer anecdotes, I see.

For the record: I tend to identify as a Republican Conservative - when I'm
not identifying as a Lumberjack Lesbian... Don't be judgin'... It gets me
laid with some pristine punanny.

Anyway, that being said, Republicans are picking the "Wrong Hill To Die
On" by collectively arbitrarily coming out against masks and vaccinations
because they are relying upon misinformation and a woeful lack of accurate
information. Also they seem to be overwhelmed by political bias fogging
out common sense. To wit, the current "Talking Point of The Day" seems to
be "There's no evidence or current scientific study proving that fully
vaccinated persons need to wear masks..."

Du'h! Double damn D'UH! There's no "evidence, study, or proof" that you
write with the pointed end of a pencil and erase with the reddish rubbery
thing on the other end - but most idiots figure it out because it hasn't be
politicized yet.

Even if you cover your ears, shut your eyes, and shout "NAH NAH NAH NAH
NAH" at the top of your lungs, this is a 'Risk vs. Gain' conjecture.

My humble position is arrived at by using the "What If" paradigm: What
could it possibly hurt by just wearing a mask out in public or in uncertain
social situations versus risking perpetuating and transferring a virulent,
deadly virus? Maybe you won't get sick... but do you have children who are
not yet vaccinated? Do you really want to risk transferring a mutated
version of a deadly virus to them to see if they can resist it naturally?

"Vaccinated people can't get infected" IS A FALLACY! Based on that
FALLACY, people looking for an issue to exploint make wearing of masks an
issue because it seems to stir up emotions and maybe they believe they're
going to be on the "right side" of the issue.

I say the best hope they have is to argue "Well, it didn't kill that many
people." It's like being "dead right" in an auto accident...

Here's the situation in our current identity culture: Mostly Blacks,
people hyper-sensitive to the current Black culture, Hispanics, and a few
fringe mentally subceptable folks are resisting getting the vaccination[s].
There a few that manifest their fears by making a "Wait And See" case...
That would place these folks in the Liberal/Democrat/Leftist camp -
stereotypically.

Mostly Whites, Red-State, Neo-Conservatives are resting their case on a
"Masks versus Personal Freedoms" position... But MOST of these are the ones
arguing "there's no science, data, or studies that PROVE COVID-19 and its
variants (mutations) are being transferred by vaccinated people...

A'HA! Therein lies the rub... A direct product of the Leftist Liberal
Media's abject failure as our hallowed "Fourth Estate" in making our system
of government and way of life superior in the history of mankind by keeping
the population well and accurately informed....

See, all they need to do is make the distinction between "CONTRACTING,
CARRYING, AND TRANSFERRING THE VIRUS" and "NOT GETTING SICK FROM THE
VIRUS"!

TWO DIFFERENT THINGS ALL TOGETHER! Why is nobody running a study?

Simple: Where's the profit in that? D'uh!

Common sense, from what we ALREADY KNOW, should be the hot tip that the
virus could be leap-frogging among the vaccinated because so many - even a
few is TOO MANY - vaccinated people are testing positive without showing
symptoms (e.g., getting sick)... And if you're positive, you are spreading
the virus! And if you're NOT positive, and not wearing a mask, your
chances of getting positive increase dramatically! And if you're positive,
and in contact with other people, YOU ARE SPREADING THE VIRUS! Whether or
not they're getting sick is a separate statistic.

DAMMIT! How simple does it have to be to just move on to a serious issue?
Like there's no other serious issues facing our nation...

REFERENCE:

<https://nypost.com/2021/07/30/delta-covid-variant-spreads-like-chickenpox-
cdc-docs-reveal/>

ISOLATE:

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reportedly altered its mask
guidance after a report found the Delta COVID-19 variant spreads as easily
as chickenpox, possibly even among the vaccinated � but critics have ripped
it as misleading and based on weak data."

and

"The leaked report, compiled of several different studies, claimed that the
variant causes more severe illness among the unvaccinated and is more
transmissible than Ebola, flu and even the common cold, regardless of
vaccination status."

What happened to "Better safe than sorry"?

This should shock to the core MOST REASONABLE AMERICANS! Two things,
especially considering the dynamics of this novel deadly virus:

WHY are any studies being withheld from We, The People? (It's rhetorical...
The reason is because POLITICIANS don't want to appear like they've made
any mistakes... meanwhile, our people are DYING.)

On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:11:09 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvgvncmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>>>> I really don't give a *fuck*what you do, as you're only a lone cockroach
>>>>>>> in my book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why be so cruel to cockroaches?
>>>>>
>>>>> I kill all insects. They didn't ask to enter my property.
>>>>
>>>> It was their ancestors property you stole.
>>>
>>> They don't have title deeds.
>>
>> They are very, very tiny.
>
> I must have stood on it.

You encRoached on their territory.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:10:56 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvgihkmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>> My emotion tells me you're all worrying about something insignificant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Biggest cause of death in the world - Malaria.
>>>>> 2nd biggest - Kidney disease.
>>>>> 3rd biggest - Cancer.
>>>>> 4th biggest - Coronavirus - a bad flu.
>>>>
>>>> And that is with large work to reduce the harm of Covid. Imagine if we did
>>>> not. Already in the US, even with our precautions, it has reduced the average
>>>> life span by about 1 year. I assume it is about the same for the UK.
>>>>
>>>> That does not even count the 1 in 3 survivors with long term health effects.
>>>
>>> With a population of 7 billion, I don't give a fuck if half of them die, it
>>> would make the world more sensible.
>>
>> And that is why libertarianism cannot work.
>
> It would solve your "climate" problem if there was only half of us.

It would help. Are you volunteering? Or do you only volunteer others?

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:10:30 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvfsjgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:57:55 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:37:55 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684lhcymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 21:12:13 +0100, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/07/2021 15.45, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:57:57 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:08 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.063ls6u3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks, the fan makes no detectable noise when spinning at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It can run at lower speeds because of the making use of
>>>>>>>>>>>> convection cooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once it's spinning, convection cannot occur. The air is moving
>>>>>>>>>>> faster than
>>>>>>>>>>> convection.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One force does not stop when another starts, and presumably the
>>>>>>>>>> fan is not
>>>>>>>>>> running all the time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Slow fans are not audible by humans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When needed they speed up... and I bet what you say is not audible
>>>>>>>> often is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Convection is not as good as a speeded up fan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure... but those made to work with convection have that as an
>>>>>> advantage. As
>>>>>> you note, though, there are tradeoffs.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's coming through the same hole, convection does nothing at all
>>>>> when the fan is running.
>>>>
>>>> Not fully correct :-)
>>>>
>>>> The heat inside a chip goes to its surface by convection, and travels
>>>> the heatsink via convection, where it passes to the air flow.
>>>
>>> No, conduction not convection in a solid. Convection would need the metal to
>>> move.
>>
>> Get it hot enough and it will!
>
> I don't believe that would be within the design specs of the silicon.

One way to find out.

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On 28/07/2021 19.43, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:51:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

....
>> Would be interesting to see how much effect it really has. I suspect
>> you get
>> much more with a vertical computer like an iMac than you do with a "flat"
>> computer like a laptop.
>
> Maybe, maybe not.  If it's vertical, warm air from the bottom component
> is rising past the next component so it cools not so good.

Some small fanless machines are designed to be put vertically, with
specific instructions to don't put them flat. There is a chimney effect
and the convection air flows faster.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:19:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvuoysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't want anyone to pay for anything they don't use themselves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't use the fire department until you need it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have home insurance. That would cover the fire department. But you could
>>>>>>> choose to risk it and have no insurance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Home insurance does not pay for the fire department, they pay for fire damage.
>>>>>> And they certainly do not pay to cover the 20+ fires burning within 20 miles
>>>>>> or so of me.
>>>>>
>>>>> They could if the government stopped doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Who would pay?
>>>
>>> The insurance, since you have a policy which includes fire.
>>
>> My insurance does not cover forest fires 20 miles away from me. Does yours?
>
> It would if the fire threatened your home.

Not until it was close. And fires move VERY fast. So if my neighbor is insured
they will fight the fire miles from me for him? He is them paying for me.

> They are paid to make sure your home stays intact. They don't want to have to
> pay out for everything in your home, so they put the fire out. If the forest
> fire was threatening 500 homes, that's 500 policies that would pay for the
> fire to be put out.

If the other 499 are paying for me why should I pay? Let their insurance go
up.

Hell, we see that with masks ... why should I wear a mask when others will.
YOU say that, don't you?

>>>> Hell, the libertarian fantasy is being destroyed (again) right now. People
>>>> won't even wear a mask to help save their neighbor... and you think they will
>>>> pay for things they are not forced to?
>>>
>>> My neighbour is free to wear one himself.
>>
>> But you will not wear one to protect him. That is my point.
>
> I don't have to, as he has one on.

And there you go, proving my point.

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