On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:40:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eopkv8mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:23:06 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 29, 2021 at 10:47:31 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07azpht8mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 20:16:18 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 11:57:30 AM MST, "Rabid Roach" wrote
>>>> <uGYLI.42794$0Z7.19653@fx39.iad>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-07-27 1:30 p.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:59:34 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:01:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.063lovo2mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:22:10 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-23 2:56 p.m., LegionX wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone
>>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The "delta variant" is basically one that was created by those who
>>>>>>>>> chose
>>>>>>>>> to get "vaccinated" with a concoction that is likely to kill them.
>>>>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>>> more contagious but also less potent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nobody is sticking any shit into my arm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nor is anyone asking to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope they start demanding proof of vaccination once it gets full FDA
>>>>>>> approval (which is likely coming soon).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By which time it'll have been long gone anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm _shocked_ that Marxist Snit is demanding tyranny.
>>>>
>>>> I did no such thing, nor am I a Marxist. But, hey, you got my online handle
>>>> right. Good for you!
>>>
>>> Tyranny is "government by a ruler or small group of people who have unlimited
>>> power over the people" - which is exactly what "demanding proof of
>>> vaccination" is.
>>
>> How? Every society has safety standards. Do you not want your wait staff to
>> have washed their hands after they use the restroom? Is that "tyranny" in your
>> mind?
>
> Yes it's tyranny. You should decide your own safety.

Back to no more stopping at red lights nor having the government tell me which
side of the road to drive on.

> Either cook your own food or go somewhere you know to be clean.

How do you know?

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Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:34:55 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:53:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.06694nf0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 16:38:48 +0100, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LegionX <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> posted this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's where our government and especially our subservient news media are
>>>>>> letting the general public down, over simplified:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "[My] People are destroyed for lack of knowledge." -- Hosea 4:6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The COVID-19 "vaccinations" ONLY prevent the recipient[s] from getting
>>>>>> seriously ill or dying from the virus. It DOES NOT prevent you from
>>>>>> CONTRACTING the disease; CARRYING the virus; or, INFECTING OTHERS with the
>>>>>> virus!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These "vaccinations" DO NOT operate like insecticides and "kill the virus".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They merely train specific human RNA strains to resist the virus attaching
>>>>>> to a specific protien which causes immune system reactions which are so
>>>>>> severe that it makes people severely ill or kills them...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget that at the outset of this "pandemic" it was well publicized
>>>>>> that ONE OF THE REASONS THIS VIRUS is so virulent is because an infected
>>>>>> host (human) can carry and transmit the virus for ~2-weeks BEFORE showing
>>>>>> any symptoms...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, if you have the "vaccination[s]" - and are otherwise
>>>>>> relatively healthy - and you contact the virus and IN FACT be "infected"
>>>>>> but you simply will not get seriously ill or die from it... BUT you still
>>>>>> CARRY THE VIRUS and CAN INFECT OTHER PEOPLE - WHO CAN IN TURN INFECT STILL
>>>>>> MORE PEOPLE... AD INFINITUM - before the virus inside you dies because it
>>>>>> cannot attach to the protien it needs to make you sick... IF you are
>>>>>> otherwise relatively healthy...
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is one of the reasons not to get vaccinated. You're actally more
>>>>> dangerous as you don't realise you're infected and contact more people.
>>>>
>>>> No, you are not. The amount of misinformation is absurd.
>>>
>>> The misinformation is because nobody knows.
>>
>> Wrong as usual. The vaccines reduce transmission by 80% after the first
>> dose and 90% after both.
>> https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm
>
> Until you get a variant.

Possibly. Which is why have to do everything to stop spreading the virus
and giving it the chance for new variants to arise.

The current vaccines are still effective against the newer variants.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01358-1/fulltext

> Last year's AVG doesn't delete this year's computer viruses either.

It might. With heuristic scanning it can identify similar viruses.

That's why you update the software. Same with vaccines, if the dominant
variants drift too far away from the vaccine's effectiveness then we get an
"update" (booster). Simple and effective.

Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:50:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07eo6vjymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:22:12 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.07cvk1c4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:01:25 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:33:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0684dkasmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:16:42 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:39:23 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.06437xjnmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Buying back guns from lawful owners simply means that when the thugs who
>>>>>>>>>>> got them illegally decide to commit crimes, nobody will be able to stop
>>>>>>>>>>> them. If your country gives you the right and the ability to defend
>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, why the heck would you sacrifice it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The idea is the thugs are less likely to be able to obtain one (eg. by
>>>>>>>>>> stealing it from a legal owner).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's interesting reasoning but it doesn't seem to be realistic. Besides,
>>>>>>>>> considering how tyrannical the governments of the world have already
>>>>>>>>> become with their reaction to the Kung Flu,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They should be requiring vaccinations for more things. End the damned
>>>>>>> pandemic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forcing anyone to do anything is always wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's just a bad flu! Stop making a mountain out of a molehill!
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not a flu, nor is it very similar to one other than how it spreads.
>>>>
>>>> It makes you feel like anything form "a bad cold" to "a horrid flu" from what
>>>> people have said.
>>>
>>> And it leaves 1/3 of those with it with lasting damage.
>>
>> I've not seen any evidence of this theory.
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/monumental-acknowledgment-cdc-reports-long-term-covid-19-patients-n1234814
>
> Plenty more I can show... and we can go back to the original studies.
>
>>> And kills far more.
>>> How many do you personally know who have died from it.
>>
>> I don't know anyone who died, yet I know many weak people who got through it.
>
> You are lucky. I know several who have died.
>
> One of the things I find interesting with the conservative worldview is how
> things often do not matter to those on the right until it has a more direct
> impact on them. We are seeing this, some, with vaccinations. Fewer people are
> spreading misinformation and more people are opting to be vaccinated.
>
>>>>> But the fact people will not even do very basic things to protect each other
>>>>> from this pandemic is a great refutation of libertarianism. It simply does not
>>>>> work in the real world.
>>>>
>>>> These things are unnecessary as the chances of you dying are minimal.
>>>
>>> Already reduced the life expectancy in the US by one year.
>>
>> That's a very small amount.
>
> Compared to?
>
>>
>>> The chances of
>>> dying going through a traffic light are very low -- so why should I be
>>> required to stop at red light?
>>
>> You shouldn't, I don't. Especially "left on red", which is legal in the USA
>> (although obviously yours is right).
>
> Why stop at red lights at all? Why should I be forced to drive on the right?
> It is arbitrary. You are not. What about my freedom? Can I not make the best
> choices for myself?
>
> That is what you sound like with the vaccine.
>
>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not sure that as an
>>>>>>>>> American, I would be willing to make it even easier for them to bully me
>>>>>>>>> around than it already is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The UK manages without guns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are "tyrannical" with that, eh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't think anything of it. Nobody here except madmen have a desire to own
>>>>>> a gun. People do not feel threatened and want to defend themselves. Mainly
>>>>>> because of the lack of criminals with guns.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you want to control people and deny them their guns, eh?
>>>>
>>>> Libertarianism allows for a small amount of control - eg. locking up murderers.
>>>
>>> Who pays?
>>
>> A very small income tax.
>
> What if I do not want to pay?
>>
>>> And why jump to murderers? Only a very small percentage of guns are
>>> used in murders.
>>
>> Because murder is about the only thing we should be stopping, along with
>> burglary.
>
> So I can have my 72 guns. OK.

You can have one as long as you have a purpose for it. So a hunting rifle
or a ahotgun. No handguns or semi-automatic rifles.

You'll need a licence and complete background checks which take a few
months to complete. You also need to be prepared for an annual police visit
to check you're storing it correctly.

On Aug 1, 2021 at 5:00:23 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <se62cn$q2p$1@dont-email.me>:

>>>>> Libertarianism allows for a small amount of control - eg. locking up murderers.
>>>>
>>>> Who pays?
>>>
>>> A very small income tax.
>>
>> What if I do not want to pay?
>>>
>>>> And why jump to murderers? Only a very small percentage of guns are
>>>> used in murders.
>>>
>>> Because murder is about the only thing we should be stopping, along with
>>> burglary.
>>
>> So I can have my 72 guns. OK.
>
> You can have one as long as you have a purpose for it. So a hunting rifle
> or a ahotgun. No handguns or semi-automatic rifles.

That is contrary to his idea on anything is OK but murder.

>
> You'll need a licence and complete background checks which take a few
> months to complete. You also need to be prepared for an annual police visit
> to check you're storing it correctly.

Thanks -- but I am talking philosophy not what actually is. Still, good to
know what is. :)

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On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:22:52 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:12:28 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvi212mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:59:50 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:34:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684forgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:19:33 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:37:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.06435lszmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:52:13 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:36:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.061pukzwmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:27:51 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 13:15:16 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/07/2021 16:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do laptops take air from underneath which won't work on your lap?
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should come in one side and out the other.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They're not designed to actually sit on your lap... :-/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They're called laptops for a reason, that's where the home ones go.
>>>>>>>>>> Office ones might be on a desk or train table.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Buy one that suits your needs, then. Don't bitch about having bought
>>>>>>>>> something that doesn't work for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it's called "laptop" it should work on a lap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many call them notebooks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't heard that word for 2-3 decades. I have heard lapdog though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dell calls them laptops: https://www.dell.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple calls them notebooks: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorta funny how the ones more suited for the lap are not called laptops. :)
>>>>
>>>> I think "tablet" is the stupidest name - a tablet makes me think of a slab of
>>>> stone.
>>>
>>> Would be hard to swallow that!
>>
>> Nobody ever laughs at a pun.
>
> They have groan on you.

QED.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:23:14 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:12:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvilr7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:59:32 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:35:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684gzj1mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.macrumors.com/guide/m1/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like Intel and AMD are incapable of that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At least for now that is correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are a religious nut, bowing to the god of Apple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. I am an atheist... even in computers I say use what is best for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your logic has failed then, because Apple is never the best choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is not for you then don't get one.
>>>>
>>>> It's not for anyone. It's incompatible with most people. It costs more for the
>>>> same specs. You have a smaller base of programs and people to help you with
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> You say you do not like Macs but went out of your way to make a Hackintosh. :)
>>
>> It wasn't out of my way, I was building a normal desktop PC, just out of
>> particular parts.
>
> And just happened to make one that would work as a Hackintosh, and then got
> macOS and installed it. Hmmmm....

I was told to. I was telling you it wasn't difficult.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:23:55 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:11:09 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvgvncmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>>>>>>>> I really don't give a *fuck*what you do, as you're only a lone cockroach
>>>>>>>> in my book.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why be so cruel to cockroaches?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I kill all insects. They didn't ask to enter my property.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was their ancestors property you stole.
>>>>
>>>> They don't have title deeds.
>>>
>>> They are very, very tiny.
>>
>> I must have stood on it.
>
> You encRoached on their territory.

FFS....

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:24:25 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:10:56 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvgihkmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>>>>>> My emotion tells me you're all worrying about something insignificant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Biggest cause of death in the world - Malaria.
>>>>>> 2nd biggest - Kidney disease.
>>>>>> 3rd biggest - Cancer.
>>>>>> 4th biggest - Coronavirus - a bad flu.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that is with large work to reduce the harm of Covid. Imagine if we did
>>>>> not. Already in the US, even with our precautions, it has reduced the average
>>>>> life span by about 1 year. I assume it is about the same for the UK.
>>>>>
>>>>> That does not even count the 1 in 3 survivors with long term health effects.
>>>>
>>>> With a population of 7 billion, I don't give a fuck if half of them die, it
>>>> would make the world more sensible.
>>>
>>> And that is why libertarianism cannot work.
>>
>> It would solve your "climate" problem if there was only half of us.
>
> It would help. Are you volunteering? Or do you only volunteer others?

The weakest will die, that is nature's way.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:24:41 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:10:30 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvfsjgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:57:55 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:37:55 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684lhcymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 21:12:13 +0100, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 26/07/2021 15.45, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:57:57 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:08 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.063ls6u3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks, the fan makes no detectable noise when spinning at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It can run at lower speeds because of the making use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convection cooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once it's spinning, convection cannot occur. The air is moving
>>>>>>>>>>>> faster than
>>>>>>>>>>>> convection.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One force does not stop when another starts, and presumably the
>>>>>>>>>>> fan is not
>>>>>>>>>>> running all the time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Slow fans are not audible by humans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When needed they speed up... and I bet what you say is not audible
>>>>>>>>> often is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Convection is not as good as a speeded up fan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure... but those made to work with convection have that as an
>>>>>>> advantage. As
>>>>>>> you note, though, there are tradeoffs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's coming through the same hole, convection does nothing at all
>>>>>> when the fan is running.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not fully correct :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> The heat inside a chip goes to its surface by convection, and travels
>>>>> the heatsink via convection, where it passes to the air flow.
>>>>
>>>> No, conduction not convection in a solid. Convection would need the metal to
>>>> move.
>>>
>>> Get it hot enough and it will!
>>
>> I don't believe that would be within the design specs of the silicon.
>
> One way to find out.

Been done already: https://youtu.be/Xf0VuRG7MN4
Quite amazing watching the thermal throttle work. About time they put them in cars.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:33:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:19:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvuoysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't want anyone to pay for anything they don't use themselves.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You don't use the fire department until you need it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have home insurance. That would cover the fire department. But you could
>>>>>>>> choose to risk it and have no insurance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Home insurance does not pay for the fire department, they pay for fire damage.
>>>>>>> And they certainly do not pay to cover the 20+ fires burning within 20 miles
>>>>>>> or so of me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They could if the government stopped doing so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who would pay?
>>>>
>>>> The insurance, since you have a policy which includes fire.
>>>
>>> My insurance does not cover forest fires 20 miles away from me. Does yours?
>>
>> It would if the fire threatened your home.
>
> Not until it was close. And fires move VERY fast. So if my neighbor is insured
> they will fight the fire miles from me for him? He is them paying for me.

If you had insurance with fire protection, you'd phone up and say "there's a forest fire coming", or they'd already know. To protect themselves against having to pay for the damage to your house, they would chip in to put the fire out.

>> They are paid to make sure your home stays intact. They don't want to have to
>> pay out for everything in your home, so they put the fire out. If the forest
>> fire was threatening 500 homes, that's 500 policies that would pay for the
>> fire to be put out.
>
> If the other 499 are paying for me why should I pay? Let their insurance go
> up.

You could if you wanted. But if a lot of people did that, there wouldn't be enough money to put the fire out and it would be cheaper to just pay for the lost houses. So, up to you, freedom of choice.

> Hell, we see that with masks ... why should I wear a mask when others will.
> YOU say that, don't you?

Yes. Because masks aren't one way. That would be black magic.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:34:04 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:18:12 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvsmocmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:06:04 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:41:53 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684r3yqmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:48:12 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:30:41 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0669lf0emvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:59:34 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:01:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.063lovo2mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:22:10 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-23 2:56 p.m., LegionX wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The "delta variant" is basically one that was created by those who chose
>>>>>>>>> to get "vaccinated" with a concoction that is likely to kill them. It is
>>>>>>>>> more contagious but also less potent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nobody is sticking any shit into my arm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nor is anyone asking to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope they start demanding proof of vaccination once it gets full FDA
>>>>>>> approval (which is likely coming soon).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By which time it'll have been long gone anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly a lot of people believe that fantasy.
>>>>
>>>> Go look at the deaths on worldometer.
>>>
>>> OK? Does not break out the cause.
>>
>> It shows they're diminishing. Anyway, once we've all had it, nobody else can
>> catch it.
>
> The same people can get new variants, potentially. But the idea is to reduce
> the harm below what it would be if all got it, with so many dying and 1/3 of
> the population having long term ill effects.

And removing any chance of evolution making us tougher against such things. You're sounding like you believe in god.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:34:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:17:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvrtgqmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:05:16 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:42:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684sklomvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:48:48 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:30:21 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0669kvbpmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 07:48:03 +0100, LegionX
>>>>>> <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HHI <HHI@imaginary.friend.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/25/21 11:24 PM, LegionX wrote:> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> Wrote
>>>>>>>> in message:> >> One would think... but Gremlin was posting saying there was
>>>>>>>> an explosion but he had not heard from himself.<>Gremlin didn't post
>>>>>>>> anything. We did. We again invite you to> support your socking accusation
>>>>>>>> snit. We supported ours when we> called you out for socking up as Sigmond.>
>>>>>>>>>> Gremlin is not the sharpest tool in the shed, no matter what name he
>>>>>>>> posts under.<>On Gremlins *worst days* he can still mop the floor with you
>>>>>>>> on> *any tech subject* with fuckin ease. Any of us can.> >Gremlin only
>>>>>>>> posts under one handle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shit. I forgot to mention Diesel.<> Snit. Diesel isn't a sock of Gremlins.
>>>>>>>> It's an old handle he used
>>>>>>> for the purposes of making things more difficult for the remailer
>>>>>>> who revealed they had newbie level usenet search
>>>>>>> skills.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you like to try again girlyman?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You know what we mean you sock using asshole.<> We aren't mind readers. And
>>>>>>>> even if one of us was - snits is far
>>>>>>> too over self medicated on benzos and booze for us to read
>>>>>>> his.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody fucking cares.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gremlin has forgotten how to wrap. Odd.
>>>>
>>>> You mean learned how to not wrap.
>>>
>>> Or wrap properly.
>>
>> It's a stupid thing to do, as you have no idea how wide the recipient's
>> monitor is.
>
> Wrapping properly or not at all is better than what Gremlin is managing these
> days.

Any wrapping annoys me. This post from you for example leaves the right half of my monitor plain white. I think it originally came from retards that have trouble following their eyes along longer lines.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:35:17 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:17:20 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvq6afmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:04:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:43:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684vcpamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:51:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.06695xu0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:23 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:45:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.0644hq2omvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:57:57 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:08 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <op.063ls6u3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks, the fan makes no detectable noise when spinning at minimum speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It can run at lower speeds because of the making use of convection cooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once it's spinning, convection cannot occur. The air is moving faster than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One force does not stop when another starts, and presumably the fan is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> running all the time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slow fans are not audible by humans.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When needed they speed up... and I bet what you say is not audible often is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Convection is not as good as a speeded up fan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure... but those made to work with convection have that as an advantage. As
>>>>>>>>> you note, though, there are tradeoffs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it's coming through the same hole, convection does nothing at all when the
>>>>>>>> fan is running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you figure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because the speed of the air forced by even a slow fan is an order of
>>>>>> magnitude faster than convection.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would imply it does little, not nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I'd say negligible compared to a fan. It might be enough when the computer is
>>>> idling, but if the fan runs at all, it's 10 times more cooling.
>>>>
>>>>> Would be interesting to see how much effect it really has. I suspect you get
>>>>> much more with a vertical computer like an iMac than you do with a "flat"
>>>>> computer like a laptop.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe, maybe not. If it's vertical, warm air from the bottom component is
>>>> rising past the next component so it cools not so good.
>>>
>>> I think it works by having the hottest components at the top. Not sure.
>>
>> I tend to set up fans that way, so the cool air crosses the disks first,
>> ending with the GPU.
>
> You use convection to your advantage.

No, it's all forced air, I just choose which things need to be kept cooler and which generate more heat. My fans do switch off or run very slowly when it's not thinking hard though, so there probably is convection, but I didn't design it for that, I only concern myself with the higher temperatures, since minimum speed fans are silent.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:35:33 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:16:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvqenvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:04:03 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:44:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684v4uymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:52:35 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.066946wpmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:08 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:46:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.0644jgo5mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:58:20 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:03:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <op.063lr600mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are very clear it has no fan. There is no lie. But if you don't want one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Might not technically be a lie, but it's still misrepresentation. Look at this
>>>>>>>>>>>> powerful OR quiet machine....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To a large extent that is the choice you make. Another comparison I recently
>>>>>>>>>>> watched:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Air gets amazing reviews. And notice being "quiet" is one of the reasons
>>>>>>>>>>> listed (as is price, power, video rendering, instant wake on open, no power
>>>>>>>>>>> throttling on battery, excellent keyboard, excellent build, excellent monitor,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc.) Only thing noted it is not good for: gaming (which is no surprise).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For the fan comments: https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k?t=522
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You might not notice the fan noise... until you use a system which has no such
>>>>>>>>>>> noise. I know for me I am bothered by fan noises. I appreciate the low sound
>>>>>>>>>>> of Apple products.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With zero fan noise you're in danger of hearing traffic noises outside.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure. Still nice to have a quiet computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter how quiet it is, something will annoy me, like the cooling
>>>>>>>> fan on a Sky TV box, or a refridgerator in the next room. Your ears have
>>>>>>>> automatic level control. But the most annoying thing is a change in noise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Might not matter to you... does to me and to others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you have bad hearing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have very sensitive hearing... but have a hard time "blocking out"
>>>>> background noise. Comes with the dysautonomia I have.
>>>>
>>>> Then you should be like me. If you stop an annoying noise, you just end up
>>>> hearing the next loudest one.
>>>
>>> Distance also plays some role in it. I do not mind noises as much if they are
>>> not as close.
>>
>> Annoyance = volume/distance.
>
> To some extent, yes.

To what extent isn't it?

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:36:12 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:16:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvpedcmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:03:13 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:29:41 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.06837rvdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0644g0qumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:57 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.063lujpgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, integrated graphics is a compromise. It'll manage a powerpoint
>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course it is a compromise -- the world is full of them. With the Macbook
>>>>>>>>>>> Air it is designed to be lightweight and have a long battery life, and while
>>>>>>>>>>> it fits a lot of needs it is not a gaming machine. But it absolutely does have
>>>>>>>>>>> a GPU.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Surely one could be made that has a fan, but is only used if you start gaming
>>>>>>>>>> on it? Just because a powerful chip is in there, doesn't mean it has to be
>>>>>>>>>> used all the time. Being able to connect the screen to either the onboard or
>>>>>>>>>> the GPU would be a good idea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You could make a machine with multiple CPUs and GPUs and more... but it would
>>>>>>>>> be bigger and more expensive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. You can already buy machines with a seperate GPU. Why not just take one of
>>>>>>>> those, but disable the GPU until you load a game etc? The built in graphics of
>>>>>>>> the CPU could then take over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not all CPUs have integrated graphics. So you pay more for a CPU with the
>>>>>>> integrated graphics then add a GPU to it. Then you can add an external GPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It costs virtually nothing compared to the seperate GPU. A lot of desktops
>>>>>> I've had have built in graphics and a seperate card.
>>>>>
>>>>> Desktops have less concern about heat and energy.
>>>>
>>>> Anything that's not doing calculations should emit no heat. My 6 month old
>>>> Ryzen 3900XT CPU is absurd. It uses 150W at full power, but 40W when idle.
>>>> WTF is it doing to use 40W?
>>>
>>> Idling. :)
>>
>> A human is better, it uses 150W at idle and 3-8000W at full blast. Although we
>> do get tired.
>
> And are grossly inefficient. We also say we want to speed up our metabolism...
> becoming MORE inefficient!

I do that. I can impart 2.2kW of heat into a bath of ice cold water. That's 8 times faster than the freezer compressor can cool it. You lose a pound of fat for every two hours.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 22:32:48 +0100, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> On 30/07/2021 20.19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:06:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:41:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684qxuumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>
>>>>> Hell, the libertarian fantasy is being destroyed (again) right now.
>>>>> People
>>>>> won't even wear a mask to help save their neighbor... and you think
>>>>> they will
>>>>> pay for things they are not forced to?
>>>>
>>>> My neighbour is free to wear one himself.
>>>
>>> But you will not wear one to protect him. That is my point.
>>
>> I don't have to, as he has one on.
>
> Wrong.
>
> His mask protects you, and your mask protects him.
> His mask does not protect him. Your mask does not protect you.
>
> Unless you (and he) use a PPE.

The air coming out of my mouth is travelling faster than it is when it reaches him, it's more likely to be stopped by his mask as it's going slower. Everyone's masks protects themselves.

On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 20:02:27 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:47:29 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07eo1fqbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:19:16 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:14:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.07cvmcmzmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:31:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0684bcp4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:15:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.0644cgstmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>>>>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>>>>>>>>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>>>>>>>>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>>>>>>>>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
>>>>>>>> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
>>>>>>>> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
>>>>>>> computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
>>>>>>> RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The computer above ended up with a free upgrade to 80MB when the 40MB disk
>>>>>> failed and they didn't have any spares. They also replaced the motherboard for
>>>>>> free when I shorted it out. Just because a serial printer uses the same
>>>>>> connector as a parallel printer, does not mean it's electrically compatible.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
>>>>> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
>>>>> fix that.
>>>>
>>>> To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!
>>>
>>> Try it on a new M1!
>>
>> I have a soldering iron with the extra fine tip, will that do?
>
> One way to find out.

Have you ever picked up the wrong end?

On Aug 1, 2021 at 11:20:35 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07gk8lcvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>>> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
>>>>>> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
>>>>>> fix that.
>>>>>
>>>>> To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!
>>>>
>>>> Try it on a new M1!
>>>
>>> I have a soldering iron with the extra fine tip, will that do?
>>
>> One way to find out.
>
> Have you ever picked up the wrong end?

Nope. And only rarely the right one.

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On Aug 1, 2021 at 11:20:01 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07gk7ne7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 22:32:48 +0100, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/07/2021 20.19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:06:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:41:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0684qxuumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>
>>>>>> Hell, the libertarian fantasy is being destroyed (again) right now.
>>>>>> People
>>>>>> won't even wear a mask to help save their neighbor... and you think
>>>>>> they will
>>>>>> pay for things they are not forced to?
>>>>>
>>>>> My neighbour is free to wear one himself.
>>>>
>>>> But you will not wear one to protect him. That is my point.
>>>
>>> I don't have to, as he has one on.
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>> His mask protects you, and your mask protects him.
>> His mask does not protect him. Your mask does not protect you.
>>
>> Unless you (and he) use a PPE.
>
> The air coming out of my mouth is travelling faster than it is when it reaches
> him, it's more likely to be stopped by his mask as it's going slower.
> Everyone's masks protects themselves.

Your claims are contrary to the evidence on mask wearing.

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On Aug 1, 2021 at 11:17:42 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07gk3sqtmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>>> I have very sensitive hearing... but have a hard time "blocking out"
>>>>>> background noise. Comes with the dysautonomia I have.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you should be like me. If you stop an annoying noise, you just end up
>>>>> hearing the next loudest one.
>>>>
>>>> Distance also plays some role in it. I do not mind noises as much if they are
>>>> not as close.
>>>
>>> Annoyance = volume/distance.
>>
>> To some extent, yes.
>
> To what extent isn't it?

To the extent that it is, but in reverse.

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On Aug 1, 2021 at 11:17:24 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07gk3a0zmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>> Maybe, maybe not. If it's vertical, warm air from the bottom component is
>>>>> rising past the next component so it cools not so good.
>>>>
>>>> I think it works by having the hottest components at the top. Not sure.
>>>
>>> I tend to set up fans that way, so the cool air crosses the disks first,
>>> ending with the GPU.
>>
>> You use convection to your advantage.
>
> No, it's all forced air, I just choose which things need to be kept cooler and
> which generate more heat. My fans do switch off or run very slowly when it's
> not thinking hard though, so there probably is convection, but I didn't design
> it for that, I only concern myself with the higher temperatures, since minimum
> speed fans are silent.

On purpose or not you used convection to your advantage. Try pushing the air
the other way and see how well it works. I suspect less so.

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On Aug 1, 2021 at 11:15:49 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07gk0nkamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:34:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:17:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cvrtgqmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:05:16 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:42:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0684sklomvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:48:48 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:30:21 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.0669kvbpmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 07:48:03 +0100, LegionX
>>>>>>> <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HHI <HHI@imaginary.friend.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/21 11:24 PM, LegionX wrote:> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> Wrote
>>>>>>>>> in message:> >> One would think... but Gremlin was posting saying there was
>>>>>>>>> an explosion but he had not heard from himself.<>Gremlin didn't post
>>>>>>>>> anything. We did. We again invite you to> support your socking accusation
>>>>>>>>> snit. We supported ours when we> called you out for socking up as Sigmond.>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gremlin is not the sharpest tool in the shed, no matter what name he
>>>>>>>>> posts under.<>On Gremlins *worst days* he can still mop the floor with you
>>>>>>>>> on> *any tech subject* with fuckin ease. Any of us can.> >Gremlin only
>>>>>>>>> posts under one handle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Shit. I forgot to mention Diesel.<> Snit. Diesel isn't a sock of Gremlins.
>>>>>>>>> It's an old handle he used
>>>>>>>> for the purposes of making things more difficult for the remailer
>>>>>>>> who revealed they had newbie level usenet search
>>>>>>>> skills.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you like to try again girlyman?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You know what we mean you sock using asshole.<> We aren't mind readers. And
>>>>>>>>> even if one of us was - snits is far
>>>>>>>> too over self medicated on benzos and booze for us to read
>>>>>>>> his.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody fucking cares.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gremlin has forgotten how to wrap. Odd.
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean learned how to not wrap.
>>>>
>>>> Or wrap properly.
>>>
>>> It's a stupid thing to do, as you have no idea how wide the recipient's
>>> monitor is.
>>
>> Wrapping properly or not at all is better than what Gremlin is managing these
>> days.
>
> Any wrapping annoys me. This post from you for example leaves the right half
> of my monitor plain white. I think it originally came from retards that have
> trouble following their eyes along longer lines.

Either way avoids the hot mess coming from Gremlin, above.

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On Aug 1, 2021 at 11:15:01 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07gkzbjomvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>
>>>> OK? Does not break out the cause.
>>>
>>> It shows they're diminishing. Anyway, once we've all had it, nobody else can
>>> catch it.
>>
>> The same people can get new variants, potentially. But the idea is to reduce
>> the harm below what it would be if all got it, with so many dying and 1/3 of
>> the population having long term ill effects.
>
> And removing any chance of evolution making us tougher against such things.

What is the value in watching people needlessly suffer and die?

> You're sounding like you believe in god.

One need not believe in a god to have morals... in fact such a belief, I
think, can often get in the way (which is not to suggest religious people
cannot be moral -- many are!)

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On Aug 1, 2021 at 11:14:24 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07gkyaewmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:33:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:19:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cvuoysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't want anyone to pay for anything they don't use themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You don't use the fire department until you need it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have home insurance. That would cover the fire department. But you could
>>>>>>>>> choose to risk it and have no insurance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Home insurance does not pay for the fire department, they pay for fire damage.
>>>>>>>> And they certainly do not pay to cover the 20+ fires burning within 20 miles
>>>>>>>> or so of me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They could if the government stopped doing so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who would pay?
>>>>>
>>>>> The insurance, since you have a policy which includes fire.
>>>>
>>>> My insurance does not cover forest fires 20 miles away from me. Does yours?
>>>
>>> It would if the fire threatened your home.
>>
>> Not until it was close. And fires move VERY fast. So if my neighbor is insured
>> they will fight the fire miles from me for him? He is them paying for me.
>
> If you had insurance with fire protection, you'd phone up and say "there's a
> forest fire coming", or they'd already know. To protect themselves against
> having to pay for the damage to your house, they would chip in to put the fire
> out.

The cost of the house would be FAR less than the cost of the work to put out
the fire. Many times less.

>
>>> They are paid to make sure your home stays intact. They don't want to have to
>>> pay out for everything in your home, so they put the fire out. If the forest
>>> fire was threatening 500 homes, that's 500 policies that would pay for the
>>> fire to be put out.
>>
>> If the other 499 are paying for me why should I pay? Let their insurance go
>> up.
>
> You could if you wanted. But if a lot of people did that, there wouldn't be
> enough money to put the fire out and it would be cheaper to just pay for the
> lost houses. So, up to you, freedom of choice.

Unless many people get the insurance the value goes down. More damage and loss
and suffering.

I prefer to have less suffering and better services.

>
>> Hell, we see that with masks ... why should I wear a mask when others will.
>> YOU say that, don't you?
>
> Yes. Because masks aren't one way. That would be black magic.

See: too many people deny the evidence and think only of themselves for the
libertarian ideas to possibly work.

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On Aug 1, 2021 at 11:12:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07gkuzu0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:24:41 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:10:30 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cvfsjgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:57:55 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:37:55 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0684lhcymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 21:12:13 +0100, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/07/2021 15.45, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:57:57 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:08 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.063ls6u3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks, the fan makes no detectable noise when spinning at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It can run at lower speeds because of the making use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convection cooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once it's spinning, convection cannot occur. The air is moving
>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One force does not stop when another starts, and presumably the
>>>>>>>>>>>> fan is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> running all the time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Slow fans are not audible by humans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When needed they speed up... and I bet what you say is not audible
>>>>>>>>>> often is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Convection is not as good as a speeded up fan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure... but those made to work with convection have that as an
>>>>>>>> advantage. As
>>>>>>>> you note, though, there are tradeoffs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's coming through the same hole, convection does nothing at all
>>>>>>> when the fan is running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not fully correct :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The heat inside a chip goes to its surface by convection, and travels
>>>>>> the heatsink via convection, where it passes to the air flow.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, conduction not convection in a solid. Convection would need the metal to
>>>>> move.
>>>>
>>>> Get it hot enough and it will!
>>>
>>> I don't believe that would be within the design specs of the silicon.
>>
>> One way to find out.
>
> Been done already: https://youtu.be/Xf0VuRG7MN4
> Quite amazing watching the thermal throttle work. About time they put them in
> cars.

Would be curious to see how an M1 handles that.

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