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On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:08:31 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.063l0hysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
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>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:50:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:31:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.061pm5avmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>
>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it at
>>>> school.
>>>
>>> It was a fun game... and you can STILL play it:
>>>
>>> https://www.retrogames.cz/play_493-DOS.php?language=EN
>>
>> I do not understand the desire to play outdated quality stuff. This is what I
>> play: https://youtu.be/IbnW213nRO8
>
> I am not much of a gamer... unless you count chess, but no real computer power
> needed for that. Even then I play about 1 game a day on average.

Fallout 4 is better than real life. In fact I regularly do something in real life and think Fallout 4 would have made it easier to do that.

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On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:57 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.063lujpgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
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>>>>>> No, integrated graphics is a compromise. It'll manage a powerpoint
>>>>>> presentation....
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it is a compromise -- the world is full of them. With the Macbook
>>>>> Air it is designed to be lightweight and have a long battery life, and while
>>>>> it fits a lot of needs it is not a gaming machine. But it absolutely does have
>>>>> a GPU.
>>>>
>>>> Surely one could be made that has a fan, but is only used if you start gaming
>>>> on it? Just because a powerful chip is in there, doesn't mean it has to be
>>>> used all the time. Being able to connect the screen to either the onboard or
>>>> the GPU would be a good idea.
>>>
>>> You could make a machine with multiple CPUs and GPUs and more... but it would
>>> be bigger and more expensive.
>>
>> No. You can already buy machines with a seperate GPU. Why not just take one of
>> those, but disable the GPU until you load a game etc? The built in graphics of
>> the CPU could then take over.
>
> Not all CPUs have integrated graphics. So you pay more for a CPU with the
> integrated graphics then add a GPU to it. Then you can add an external GPU.

It costs virtually nothing compared to the seperate GPU. A lot of desktops I've had have built in graphics and a seperate card.

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On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:57:57 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:08 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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>>>>>>>> Bollocks, the fan makes no detectable noise when spinning at minimum speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It can run at lower speeds because of the making use of convection cooling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once it's spinning, convection cannot occur. The air is moving faster than
>>>>>> convection.
>>>>>
>>>>> One force does not stop when another starts, and presumably the fan is not
>>>>> running all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Slow fans are not audible by humans.
>>>
>>> When needed they speed up... and I bet what you say is not audible often is.
>>
>> Convection is not as good as a speeded up fan.
>
> Sure... but those made to work with convection have that as an advantage. As
> you note, though, there are tradeoffs.

If it's coming through the same hole, convection does nothing at all when the fan is running.

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On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:58:20 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:03:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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>>>>> They are very clear it has no fan. There is no lie. But if you don't want one
>>>>> don't get one.
>>>>
>>>> Might not technically be a lie, but it's still misrepresentation. Look at this
>>>> powerful OR quiet machine....
>>>
>>> To a large extent that is the choice you make. Another comparison I recently
>>> watched:
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k
>>>
>>> The Air gets amazing reviews. And notice being "quiet" is one of the reasons
>>> listed (as is price, power, video rendering, instant wake on open, no power
>>> throttling on battery, excellent keyboard, excellent build, excellent monitor,
>>> etc.) Only thing noted it is not good for: gaming (which is no surprise).
>>>
>>> For the fan comments: https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k?t=522
>>>
>>> You might not notice the fan noise... until you use a system which has no such
>>> noise. I know for me I am bothered by fan noises. I appreciate the low sound
>>> of Apple products.
>>
>> With zero fan noise you're in danger of hearing traffic noises outside.
>
> Sure. Still nice to have a quiet computer.

It doesn't matter how quiet it is, something will annoy me, like the cooling fan on a Sky TV box, or a refridgerator in the next room. Your ears have automatic level control. But the most annoying thing is a change in noise.

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On 2021-07-26 9:39 a.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 03:17:43 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-07-24 1:28 p.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 13:31:07 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-07-22 11:44 p.m., AJL wrote:
>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2021 at 8:48:29 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's why you neanderthals still have guns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is going to pay the government to stop people from having guns?
>>>>>> You?
>>>>>
>>>>> In a US city I lived in around 40 years ago the city council voted to
>>>>> buy guns (all types) from the public and then destroyed them. They had
>>>>> lots of takers. The program lasted for a couple of years as I
>>>>> recall. I
>>>>> don't remember if it did any good at the time but currently the
>>>>> city has
>>>>> the same gun problem as the rest in its size class (6M pop metro).
>>>>
>>>> Buying back guns from lawful owners simply means that when the thugs
>>>> who
>>>> got them illegally decide to commit crimes, nobody will be able to stop
>>>> them. If your country gives you the right and the ability to defend
>>>> yourself, why the heck would you sacrifice it?
>>>
>>> The idea is the thugs are less likely to be able to obtain one (eg. by
>>> stealing it from a legal owner).
>>
>> It's interesting reasoning but it doesn't seem to be realistic. Besides,
>> considering how tyrannical the governments of the world have already
>> become with their reaction to the Kung Flu,
>
> Agreed on that.
>
>> I am not sure that as an
>> American, I would be willing to make it even easier for them to bully me
>> around than it already is.
>
> The UK manages without guns.

Actual Brits, whose ancestors have been there for hundreds or thousands
of years are Christian, well-behaved and believe in manners. I imagine
that amongst them, guns are of no use. However, I wonder whether the New
Brits have resorted to other means to kill people now that guns are not
available...

.... oh wait, what's this?

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow-b1Cus1fg> "Birmingham knife crime
overtakes London"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msTmT16-nRU> "London on track for
highest number of teenage killings in a decade"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7pIO0F9y0U> "Knife crime on the rise
in London"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJGyhuiW57M> "London's murder rate
worse than New York?"

You can take the knife out of the killer's hands but you can't take the
killer out. Those wonderful, peaceful "New Brits" from Africa will
always find a way. I wonder if the Old Brits would have enjoyed having a
way of defending themselves against the adherents to the "religion of
peace?"

--
Rabid Roach
John 15:18

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 by: Rabid Roach - Mon, 26 Jul 2021 13:54 UTC

On 2021-07-26 9:40 a.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 03:19:16 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-07-24 1:29 p.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 13:47:45 +0100, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-07-23, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-22 11:44 p.m., AJL wrote:
>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2021 at 8:48:29 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's why you neanderthals still have guns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who is going to pay the government to stop people from having guns?
>>>>>>> You?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a US city I lived in around 40 years ago the city council voted to
>>>>>> buy guns (all types) from the public and then destroyed them. They
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> lots of takers. The program lasted for a couple of years as I
>>>>>> recall. I
>>>>>> don't remember if it did any good at the time but currently the city
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> the same gun problem as the rest in its size class (6M pop metro).
>>>>>
>>>>> Buying back guns from lawful owners simply means that when the
>>>>> thugs who
>>>>> got them illegally decide to commit crimes, nobody will be able to
>>>>> stop
>>>>> them. If your country gives you the right and the ability to defend
>>>>> yourself, why the heck would you sacrifice it?
>>>>
>>>> Gun control will never work.
>>>
>>> It works in the UK.
>>
>> That's right: there are no stabbings, people getting run over by vans
>> driven by those devout to the "religion of peace" or explosions in the
>> UK anymore. It's been at least a few days.
>>
>> When was gun control implemented again?
>
> Why would you expect a lack of guns to help with those?  It helps with
> the most easy way to kill someone.  I can't knife you from a distance.

That's not what I was saying. I was suggesting that even if you make
guns more difficult to obtain, the killers remain. If the United Kingdom
were concerned about keeping their streets safe, they wouldn't let in
those very well-mannered and peaceful migrants from Africa who worship a
murderous pedophile who wrote a book demanding that anyone who doesn't
have the same ideology must die. If discarding that trash is of no
interest to them, giving the real Brits a fighting chance againt these
barbarians wouldn't be such a bad idea.

--
Rabid Roach
John 15:18

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 by: Bucky Breeder - Mon, 26 Jul 2021 15:38 UTC

LegionX <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> posted this:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>
>>Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>
> Yes. We are.
>
> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.

Here's where our government and especially our subservient news media are
letting the general public down, over simplified:

"[My] People are destroyed for lack of knowledge." -- Hosea 4:6

The COVID-19 "vaccinations" ONLY prevent the recipient[s] from getting
seriously ill or dying from the virus. It DOES NOT prevent you from
CONTRACTING the disease; CARRYING the virus; or, INFECTING OTHERS with the
virus!

These "vaccinations" DO NOT operate like insecticides and "kill the virus".

They merely train specific human RNA strains to resist the virus attaching
to a specific protien which causes immune system reactions which are so
severe that it makes people severely ill or kills them...

Don't forget that at the outset of this "pandemic" it was well publicized
that ONE OF THE REASONS THIS VIRUS is so virulent is because an infected
host (human) can carry and transmit the virus for ~2-weeks BEFORE showing
any symptoms...

In other words, if you have the "vaccination[s]" - and are otherwise
relatively healthy - and you contact the virus and IN FACT be "infected"
but you simply will not get seriously ill or die from it... BUT you still
CARRY THE VIRUS and CAN INFECT OTHER PEOPLE - WHO CAN IN TURN INFECT STILL
MORE PEOPLE... AD INFINITUM - before the virus inside you dies because it
cannot attach to the protien it needs to make you sick... IF you are
otherwise relatively healthy...

This is WHY wearing of masks IS NOT an issue of personal freedom... It is a
matter of LOGICAL STRATEGY to defeat the virus' spreading - and mutating -
until sufficient population are "vaccinated" to constructively defeat this
incantation of this virus.

God only knows how many other projects have been funded by the USA
taxpayers thanks to Dr. Fauci's lust for fame, fortune, and legacy.

IN CONCLUSION: Even IF you have been "vaccinated", it is very prudent to
continue to PROPERLY wear masks when out in public - which is a veritable
petri dish.

Hope this helps.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

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 by: David Brooks - Mon, 26 Jul 2021 15:39 UTC

On 25/07/2021 23:52, Rabid Roach wrote:
> On 2021-07-25 1:35 p.m., David Brooks wrote:
>> On 25/07/2021 17:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 24/07/2021 19.24, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> On 24/07/2021 14:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>> On 24/07/2021 10.17, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/07/2021 08:57, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 12:43:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <sdggah$fd1$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23/07/2021 23:59, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>> And they have millions of gullible users to pay through the nose
>>>>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing gullible about buying into a better product.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed! :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right. I buy Macs when they serve me best for the least money. When
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> systems do I buy those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What hardware have you ever found which is BETTER than an Apple
>>>>>> product?
>>>>>
>>>>> Define "better".
>>>>
>>>> That's hard to define.
>>>>
>>>> Like a Rolls Royce is better than a Ford - will that do? 🤣
>>>
>>> Depends how you define "better".
>>>
>>> A Rolls Royce is not better than a Ford because whereas both transport
>>> me to the same places in a similar time, the Rolls Royce requires a
>>> secure parking at the destination, it is more expensive to acquire, and
>>> it is more expensive to maintain.
>>
>> Oh, you can't get to Heaven in an old Ford car
>> 'Cause an old Ford car won't get that far!
>>
>> https://www.boyscouttrail.com/content/song/cant_get_to_heaven-1339.asp
>
> I've never owned a Ford but I have owned a Chrysler-built Jeep and all I
> can say is that every time I hear a car pass by my house with an odd
> noise indicating that something is broken, it's a Chrysler. I don't
> think it's even humanly possible for any manufacturer to make cars as
> bad as they do.

Oops! Sorry to hear that and of your poor experience.

Have a listen to one of the BEST sounds on the UK waterways:-

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=4042002135845055

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On 2021-07-26 11:39 a.m., David Brooks wrote:
> On 25/07/2021 23:52, Rabid Roach wrote:
>> On 2021-07-25 1:35 p.m., David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 25/07/2021 17:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 24/07/2021 19.24, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>> On 24/07/2021 14:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/07/2021 10.17, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/07/2021 08:57, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 12:43:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <sdggah$fd1$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23/07/2021 23:59, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>> And they have millions of gullible users to pay through the nose
>>>>>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing gullible about buying into a better product.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed! :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right. I buy Macs when they serve me best for the least money. When
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> systems do I buy those.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What hardware have you ever found which is BETTER than an Apple
>>>>>>> product?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Define "better".
>>>>>
>>>>> That's hard to define.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like a Rolls Royce is better than a Ford - will that do? 🤣
>>>>
>>>> Depends how you define "better".
>>>>
>>>> A Rolls Royce is not better than a Ford because whereas both transport
>>>> me to the same places in a similar time, the Rolls Royce requires a
>>>> secure parking at the destination, it is more expensive to acquire, and
>>>> it is more expensive to maintain.
>>>
>>> Oh, you can't get to Heaven in an old Ford car
>>> 'Cause an old Ford car won't get that far!
>>>
>>> https://www.boyscouttrail.com/content/song/cant_get_to_heaven-1339.asp
>>
>> I've never owned a Ford but I have owned a Chrysler-built Jeep and all
>> I can say is that every time I hear a car pass by my house with an odd
>> noise indicating that something is broken, it's a Chrysler. I don't
>> think it's even humanly possible for any manufacturer to make cars as
>> bad as they do.
>
> Oops! Sorry to hear that and of your poor experience.
>
> Have a listen to one of the BEST sounds on the UK waterways:-
>
> https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=4042002135845055

Heh, where I live, I get all sorts of sounds:

1) The sound of float planes taking off and landing a walk away from here.

2) The sound of the hyper-powered sports cars racing in the 30km/h zone
in front of the house belonging to mafia and their sons who don't live
too far from here.

3) The sound of shitty cars racing in the 30km/h zone in front of the
house belonging to poor losers who wish they had the same kind of money
as those mafia members.

4) The sound of fireworks at 10pm, 12am or 2am from Italian teenagers at
random times during the summer.

5) The sound of speedboats on the river in front of the house.

6) The sound of Chrysler-built cars which, whether they are new or old,
always sound like they are in dire need of repair because of their
garbage parts.

7) The sound of Italians talking at their normal volume (10/10 for the
rest of us) at midnight on a Sunday in front of their homes because even
though they've had their family over since 8am, they still have lots to
say when everyone else is sleeping because they work the next day.

8) The sound of Italians honking their car horns because their team won.

--
Rabid Roach
John 15:18

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:46:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:58:20 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:03:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.063lr600mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
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>>>>>> They are very clear it has no fan. There is no lie. But if you don't want one
>>>>>> don't get one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might not technically be a lie, but it's still misrepresentation. Look at this
>>>>> powerful OR quiet machine....
>>>>
>>>> To a large extent that is the choice you make. Another comparison I recently
>>>> watched:
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k
>>>>
>>>> The Air gets amazing reviews. And notice being "quiet" is one of the reasons
>>>> listed (as is price, power, video rendering, instant wake on open, no power
>>>> throttling on battery, excellent keyboard, excellent build, excellent monitor,
>>>> etc.) Only thing noted it is not good for: gaming (which is no surprise).
>>>>
>>>> For the fan comments: https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k?t=522
>>>>
>>>> You might not notice the fan noise... until you use a system which has no such
>>>> noise. I know for me I am bothered by fan noises. I appreciate the low sound
>>>> of Apple products.
>>>
>>> With zero fan noise you're in danger of hearing traffic noises outside.
>>
>> Sure. Still nice to have a quiet computer.
>
> It doesn't matter how quiet it is, something will annoy me, like the cooling
> fan on a Sky TV box, or a refridgerator in the next room. Your ears have
> automatic level control. But the most annoying thing is a change in noise.

Might not matter to you... does to me and to others.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:45:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:57:57 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:08 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.063ls6u3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>>>>>>>> Bollocks, the fan makes no detectable noise when spinning at minimum speed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It can run at lower speeds because of the making use of convection cooling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once it's spinning, convection cannot occur. The air is moving faster than
>>>>>>> convection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One force does not stop when another starts, and presumably the fan is not
>>>>>> running all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slow fans are not audible by humans.
>>>>
>>>> When needed they speed up... and I bet what you say is not audible often is.
>>>
>>> Convection is not as good as a speeded up fan.
>>
>> Sure... but those made to work with convection have that as an advantage. As
>> you note, though, there are tradeoffs.
>
> If it's coming through the same hole, convection does nothing at all when the
> fan is running.

How do you figure?

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:57 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.063lujpgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>>>>>> No, integrated graphics is a compromise. It'll manage a powerpoint
>>>>>>> presentation....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it is a compromise -- the world is full of them. With the Macbook
>>>>>> Air it is designed to be lightweight and have a long battery life, and while
>>>>>> it fits a lot of needs it is not a gaming machine. But it absolutely does have
>>>>>> a GPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> Surely one could be made that has a fan, but is only used if you start gaming
>>>>> on it? Just because a powerful chip is in there, doesn't mean it has to be
>>>>> used all the time. Being able to connect the screen to either the onboard or
>>>>> the GPU would be a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> You could make a machine with multiple CPUs and GPUs and more... but it would
>>>> be bigger and more expensive.
>>>
>>> No. You can already buy machines with a seperate GPU. Why not just take one of
>>> those, but disable the GPU until you load a game etc? The built in graphics of
>>> the CPU could then take over.
>>
>> Not all CPUs have integrated graphics. So you pay more for a CPU with the
>> integrated graphics then add a GPU to it. Then you can add an external GPU.
>
> It costs virtually nothing compared to the seperate GPU. A lot of desktops
> I've had have built in graphics and a seperate card.

Desktops have less concern about heat and energy.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:15 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.0644f1rmmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:08:31 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.063l0hysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:50:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:31:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.061pm5avmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it at
>>>>> school.
>>>>
>>>> It was a fun game... and you can STILL play it:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.retrogames.cz/play_493-DOS.php?language=EN
>>>
>>> I do not understand the desire to play outdated quality stuff. This is what I
>>> play: https://youtu.be/IbnW213nRO8
>>
>> I am not much of a gamer... unless you count chess, but no real computer power
>> needed for that. Even then I play about 1 game a day on average.
>
> Fallout 4 is better than real life. In fact I regularly do something in real
> life and think Fallout 4 would have made it easier to do that.

Glad you enjoy.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>
>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>
>>>
>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>> at school.
>>
>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>
> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.

My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:39:23 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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>>>> Buying back guns from lawful owners simply means that when the thugs who
>>>> got them illegally decide to commit crimes, nobody will be able to stop
>>>> them. If your country gives you the right and the ability to defend
>>>> yourself, why the heck would you sacrifice it?
>>>
>>> The idea is the thugs are less likely to be able to obtain one (eg. by
>>> stealing it from a legal owner).
>>
>> It's interesting reasoning but it doesn't seem to be realistic. Besides,
>> considering how tyrannical the governments of the world have already
>> become with their reaction to the Kung Flu,
>
> Agreed on that.

They should be requiring vaccinations for more things. End the damned
pandemic.

>> I am not sure that as an
>> American, I would be willing to make it even easier for them to bully me
>> around than it already is.
>
> The UK manages without guns.

They are "tyrannical" with that, eh?

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:38:47 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:53:38 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:37:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.061pw7xrmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>>>>> Okay okay super easy question you can ask him then... What drugs
>>>>>> was he doing at the time that convinced him that writing about
>>>>>> thinking he lost an eyeball or pissing on his cat were subjects
>>>>>> he should write about or share with anyone! Online? See. Easy
>>>>>> question just like we said. We wait with eager anticipation like
>>>>>> a small child around Christmas time for the honor and great
>>>>>> privilege to read Snits answers to our questions about things
>>>>>> he's written as having experienced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>>>>
>>>> Just looked at read posts. Good grief Gremlin is desperate for attention. Has
>>>> he ever lost it as badly as this?
>>>
>>> I only had to look at his photo to know he was weird.
>>
>> Try reading one of his manifestos.
>
> I'd die of boredom.

I have tried... and the sad thing is he thinks he is unrecognizable as he
posts with socks.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:38:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:53:11 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:37:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.061pv9j3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>>>>>> So the Mac mentioned above has no GPU? No wonder it doesn't need a
>>>>>>> fan. Not really a computer without graphics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you really that dumb...?
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't been dumb above.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way dumb means unable to speak.
>>>>
>>>> My dumbbell does not ring.
>>>
>>> Ever dropped one on another one?
>>
>> No, but I would be happy to watch a video of someone dropping Carroll on
>> Gremlin. :)
>
> I don't think much would happen, people are too soft, unless you could make
> sure the skulls impacted each other.

Only one way to find out!

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:37:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:52:13 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:36:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.061pukzwmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:27:51 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 13:15:16 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/07/2021 16:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> Why do laptops take air from underneath which won't work on your lap?
>>>>>>> It should come in one side and out the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They're not designed to actually sit on your lap... :-/
>>>>>
>>>>> They're called laptops for a reason, that's where the home ones go.
>>>>> Office ones might be on a desk or train table.
>>>>
>>>> Buy one that suits your needs, then. Don't bitch about having bought
>>>> something that doesn't work for you.
>>>
>>> If it's called "laptop" it should work on a lap.
>>
>> Many call them notebooks.
>
> I haven't heard that word for 2-3 decades. I have heard lapdog though.

Dell calls them laptops: https://www.dell.com/

Apple calls them notebooks: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/

Sorta funny how the ones more suited for the lap are not called laptops. :)

>
>> But if you want one you can use on your lap, get one that has no fan and is as
>> cool as the M1. :)

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:37:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:51:11 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:35:01 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.061psne1mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 18:17:05 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 22, 2021 at 8:46:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.06xvfkcdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope. It is a very cool CPU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.tomsguide.com/news/macbook-air-m1-benchmarks-revealed-and-they-destroy-windows-laptops
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course real world comparisons will not perfectly match benchmarks, and
>>>>>>>> there is more to speed than CPU... but overall the M1 chips are
>>>>>>>> amazingly fast
>>>>>>>> for the tiny amounts of power they consume compared to Intel chips.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure there's a similar chip for a normal computer. There's no way
>>>>>>> someone has suddenly made them much more efficient, this is a gradual
>>>>>>> process that's been going on for decades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple *HAS* made them - *NEW* M1 chips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.macrumors.com/guide/m1/
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah like Intel and AMD are incapable of that.
>>>>
>>>> At least for now that is correct.
>>>
>>> You are a religious nut, bowing to the god of Apple.
>>
>> Nope. I am an atheist... even in computers I say use what is best for you.
>
> Your logic has failed then, because Apple is never the best choice.

If it is not for you then don't get one.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:37:02 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:50:52 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:34:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.061prusimvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 19:08:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 23, 2021 at 2:06:39 AM MST, ""Carlos E. R."" wrote
>>>> <vddqshxjc5.ln2@minas-tirith.valinor>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/07/2021 19.16, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2021 at 8:46:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.06xvgchrmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:13:44 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2021 at 10:03:30 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.06v4b4ghmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 01:20:25 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-20 7:27 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-20 5:47 p.m., Rabid Roach wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-20 12:36 p.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 16:50:00 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/07/2021 16:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do laptops take air from underneath which won't work on your lap?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should come in one side and out the other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Apple M1 MacBook Air which, I bought for Mrs B., does even have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fan! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.apple.com/uk/macbook-air/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless they're worked out how to break the laws of physics, for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> powerful laptop you need to get a lot of heat out of it, so I take it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's a very slow laptop?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It actually has the most powerful and power-efficient mobile processor
>>>>>>>>>>>> on the market. It truly is a marvel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They wasn't so bad i guess till they got run over by an M1A1. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I probably would have bought one when I was in the market for a laptop
>>>>>>>>>> at the beginning of last month, if gaming weren't something I was even
>>>>>>>>>> slightly interesting to me. In the end, it made more sense to get a
>>>>>>>>>> mobile gaming laptop (which is more or less of the same size as the
>>>>>>>>>> Macbook Pro) with a discrete GPU. This way, I have more than enough
>>>>>>>>>> power to run all applications and games AND access to the largest
>>>>>>>>>> library the world has ever seen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So the Mac mentioned above has no GPU?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It does -- but it is an integrated one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No wonder it doesn't need a fan. Not really a computer without graphics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has graphics... and in real world use it works very well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/MtLIE74nl-0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, integrated graphics is a compromise. It'll manage a powerpoint
>>>>>>> presentation....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it is a compromise -- the world is full of them. With the Macbook
>>>>>> Air it is designed to be lightweight and have a long battery life, and while
>>>>>> it fits a lot of needs it is not a gaming machine. But it absolutely does have
>>>>>> a GPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> I intentionally buy all my laptops with that kind of graphics. I prefer
>>>>> long battery life over graphic power.
>>>>
>>>> I think that is true for most. There are exceptions, such as gamers and those
>>>> who do a lot of video editing, but for the general user the extra video
>>>> capabilities do not matter.
>>>
>>> Actually they can be used for non-graphics stuff, like the science I used to
>>> do, or even for calculating chess positions.
>>
>> They can be... but might the neural engines of the M1 be able to do much the
>> same? Not sure.
>
> If it runs OpenCL or Cuda, yes. Otherwise someone has to reprogram, again,
> always the same with Apple.

Often with these transitions all a developer has to do is recompile. Sometimes
they benefit from doing more though.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:36:03 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 03:53:58 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 23, 2021 at 7:48:44 PM MST, "Rene Lamontagne" wrote
>> <im1dcbF2g80U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 2021-07-23 9:20 p.m., Rabid Roach wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-23 7:45 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-23 5:28 p.m., Rabid Roach wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-07-23 3:58 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-07-23 2:41 p.m., nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <DFEKI.28482$0Z7.24976@fx39.iad>, Rabid Roach
>>>>>>>> <rabid@roa.ch>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The "delta variant" is basically one that was created by those who
>>>>>>>>> chose
>>>>>>>>> to get "vaccinated" with a concoction that is likely to kill them.
>>>>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>>> more contagious but also less potent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nonsense. not one word of that is even remotely correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rabid roach is spreading FUD and bullshit. and cowshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe in your freedom to believe what the legacy media tells you
>>>>>> on Friday, even if it is contradicted by what they tell you on
>>>>>> Saturday. Enjoy your sleep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My podiatrist Passed away in the HSC ICU from COVID-19 y
>>>>> three weeks ago! Do you think that's my imagination?
>>>>> Do you see any smileys here?
>>>>>
>>>>> You Dumb Cockroach.
>>>>
>>>> My condolences, but none of what you are saying is confirming that the
>>>> delta variant is more dangerous or that the vaccine works. You're simply
>>>> telling me a story which is supposed to stimulate emotion in me and get
>>>> me to back down. I am neither moved nor willing to back down on my
>>>> statement.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I really don't give a *fuck*what you do, as you're only a lone cockroach
>>> in my book.
>>>
>>> Rene
>>
>> Why be so cruel to cockroaches?
>
> I kill all insects. They didn't ask to enter my property.

It was their ancestors property you stole.

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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 03:52:44 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 23, 2021 at 7:20:40 PM MST, "Rabid Roach" wrote
>> <YNKKI.17476$W56.2707@fx08.iad>:
>>
>>> On 2021-07-23 7:45 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-23 5:28 p.m., Rabid Roach wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-23 3:58 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-07-23 2:41 p.m., nospam wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <DFEKI.28482$0Z7.24976@fx39.iad>, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The "delta variant" is basically one that was created by those who
>>>>>>>> chose
>>>>>>>> to get "vaccinated" with a concoction that is likely to kill them.
>>>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>> more contagious but also less potent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nonsense. not one word of that is even remotely correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rabid roach is spreading FUD and bullshit. and cowshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe in your freedom to believe what the legacy media tells you
>>>>> on Friday, even if it is contradicted by what they tell you on
>>>>> Saturday. Enjoy your sleep.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My podiatrist Passed away in the HSC ICU from COVID-19 y
>>>> three weeks ago! Do you think that's my imagination?
>>>> Do you see any smileys here?
>>>>
>>>> You Dumb Cockroach.
>>>
>>> My condolences, but none of what you are saying is confirming that the
>>> delta variant is more dangerous
>>
>> It is more contagious.
>>
>>> or that the vaccine works.
>>
>> Massi evidence shows it does. Heck, well over 90% of those in hospitals are
>> not fully vaccinated.
>>
>>> You're simply
>>> telling me a story which is supposed to stimulate emotion in me and get
>>> me to back down. I am neither moved nor willing to back down on my
>>> statement.
>>
>> Logic, fact checking, scientific studies are more than emotion. Please stop
>> spreading lies.
>
> My emotion tells me you're all worrying about something insignificant.
>
> Biggest cause of death in the world - Malaria.
> 2nd biggest - Kidney disease.
> 3rd biggest - Cancer.
> 4th biggest - Coronavirus - a bad flu.

And that is with large work to reduce the harm of Covid. Imagine if we did
not. Already in the US, even with our precautions, it has reduced the average
life span by about 1 year. I assume it is about the same for the UK.

That does not even count the 1 in 3 survivors with long term health effects.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 1:58:48 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sdltg8$g2b$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 26/07/2021 00:10, Snit wrote:
>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 3:25:04 PM MST, "Chris" wrote <sdkoc0$8aj$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess the issue is that Microsoft lost the desire to develop Windows RT
>>>>>>> (on Arm) due to the poor performance and unwillingness of third parties.
>>>>>>> That in turn meant intel didn't really have a market for a desktop Arm CPU
>>>>>>> so why would they bother?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple had the advantage of building both the OS and CPU together so that it
>>>>>>> was a mature product when launched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And they have millions of gullible users to pay through the nose for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing gullible about buying into a better product.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, you could do what I did for a few people back when I was
>>>> building desktops. Find the parts Apple use, build your "PC desktop"
>>>> with them, then install Mac OS on it.
>>>
>>> Good luck finding an Apple M1 CPU and motherboard.
>>
>> Even with Intel Macs it is not as easy as many seem to think. And if you did
>> do it there was no reason to think the machine would be supported,
>
> There's no need to think: it is utterly unsupported.

I meant not even being able to run the never version of macOS. My wording was
not clear though.

>> and if you
>> ran into issues no way to get support from Apple, and Apple offers excellent
>> support.
>
> If you're after a PC-like experience with a homemade Mac (aka
> hackintosh) then no support is what you should expect ;)
>
> However, there are plently of online communities that are all about
> hackintoshes with plent of success stories.

After spending plenty of time and energy on researching and building, and then
still not being sure if they are one update away from it failing.

>
>>
>>>> Not only do you get the hardware about half the price, but you don't have
>>>> to pay for the OS.
>>>
>>> macOS has been free for the best part of a decade.
>>
>> You pay for it with the hardware... he is talking about pirating.
>>

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 by: nospam - Mon, 26 Jul 2021 20:15 UTC

In article <MtyLI.28285$Nq7.24380@fx33.iad>, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch>
wrote:

>
> > what's your solution for reducing gun violence?
>
> Allow everyone to purchase and carry a gun. Criminals are less likely to
> attack people who are able to fight back.

criminals aren't the problem. most gun deaths are domestic disputes or
mentally ill people going on a rampage.

how exactly would the people attending an outdoor concert have been
able to fight a shooter from a hotel window across the street, who even
plotted bullet trajectories to maximize the carnage?

> > it's fashionable to bash 'the left' about censorship, but the reality
> > is that 'the right' is actively trying to censor anything they don't
> > like, including wanting to repeal section 230, which will not have the
> > effect they think it will.
> >
> > trump demanded that parler ban anyone who criticized him, which is a
> > direct violation of the first amendment. parler told him to get
> > stuffed.
> > <https://thehill.com/policy/technology/560682-parler-refused-to-ban-trum
> > p-critics-to-get-him-to-join-book>
> > Parler and former President Trump were in talks to get Trump on
> > the platform, but they stalled after Parler refused to ban those who
> > criticized the former president, Michael Wolff1s book about Trump1s
> > last days in office says.
>
> I agree with Parler's decision.

which means you also agree with facebook, twitter and youtube banning
trump and many others.

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In article <ZpyLI.28284$Nq7.14997@fx33.iad>, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch>
wrote:

> >>>>>> The "delta variant" is basically one that was created by those who
> >>>>>> chose
> >>>>>> to get "vaccinated" with a concoction that is likely to kill them. It
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> more contagious but also less potent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> nonsense. not one word of that is even remotely correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://nypost.com/2021/07/08/dont-buy-the-hysteria-the-delta-variant-is-
> >>>> a
> >>>> ctu
> >>>> ally-less-dangerous/>
> >>>
> >>> that's an opinion piece. it's not authored by a physician nor does it
> >>> reference any clinical studies.
> >>>
> >>> also, the ny post is not a credible source. they used a reference to
> >>> shingles as a side effect of covid vaccines to try to make it look bad.
> >>
> >> Similarly, what you just wrote is an opinion.
> >
> > what i wrote is based on current medical knowledge about covid, backed
> > up by numerous clinical tests and research, and viruses in general.
> >
> > your claim that the delta variant was 'created' by those who were
> > vaccinated is laughably wrong and shows a deep lack of understanding of
> > basic biology, let alone medicine. it's not how anything works.
>
> You never asked for evidence and I therefore didn't provide it.

you made a baseless claim and i called bullshit.

it's up to you to provide proof that it's valid or admit you're talking
out your tail.

> However,
> I know how this works with a leftist and without reading your next few
> posts, I predict that you will question the source because that's what
> you "liberals" do whenever someone provides said evidence.

medical science is not 'leftist' or 'rightist', nor is it 'liberal' or
'conservative'.

> In the same way that using glyphosate on weeds or medicine to treat a
> headache will result in the weeds becoming stronger and the body
> becoming resistant to the medication, the "vaccine" has created a virus
> which is now resistant to "protection" provided.

false.

> We alredy knew that
> today's medication was becoming increasingly useless for the diseases
> they were meant to treat; what did we expect would happen if we created
> a "vaccine" for something like a flu which the world's medical system
> has never been able to eradicate?

nonsense.

> Flus mutate and so would COVID-19 so
> as you imbeciles pump yourselves full of chemicals thinking that you are
> outsmarting a virus, you are doing nothing other than strengthening it
> and therefore _creating_ the delta variant.

that is absolutely false and represents a deep misunderstanding of
basic biology, let alone common sense.

> Here is a medical research
> paper essentially saying that the delta breaks through defenses
> <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34268529/>

as usual, you don't understand what you're reading.

> I'm sure you'll provide some fake news to dispel that but I'm not
> interested in the mainstream media's interpretation of the data and will
> ignore all of the "evidence" you provide.

your own link dispels it.

basic biology dispels it.

> > you also failed to provide evidence that any of the covid vaccines
> > (there are several) 'is likely to kill' those who take it.
>
> <http://www.indymedia.ie/vaccine_deaths>
>
> UK Vaccine Death Totals
> Deaths from Pfizer vaccine: 456
> Deaths from the Oxford Astra Zeneca: 983 and others 31
> Total of: 701 now 847, now 1,470 official UK vaccine deaths.-see below
>
> European Vaccine Death Totals
> Confirmed Vaccine Deaths 18,928 Injuries: 1.8 Million See here
>
> USA Vaccine Death Totals
> CDC Confirmed Vaccine Deaths now running at 45,000+
> Israeli Vaccine Death Totals
> Confirmed Vaccine Deaths 309 estimated total: 1000 to 1100 See here

that site is pure propaganda.

not only do they call the vaccine experimental, but they call it gene
therapy. both are false.

that's just the usual bullshit the wacko right-wing conspiracy sites
spew.

they are also attributing *any* death as due to the vaccine and not any
other cause. how to lie with numbers.

it's clear they have an agenda and you are blindly eating it up.

so far in the usa, there have been more than 35 million cases of covid
and more than 625,000 deaths.

so far in the usa, nearly 350 million vaccine doses have been
administered, with more than 150 million fully vaccinated, and only a
handful of deaths that have been directly linked to the vaccine.

do the math. hint: the difference is many orders of magnitude.

there would need to have been many millions of deaths in the past six
months, peaking in the sprint when several million jabs were given
every day. that has not happened.

>
> > the reality is the opposite. the vaccines are very safe.
>
> Nope.

false. they are very safe, certainly much safer than getting covid.

> > the danger is
> > *not* getting vaccinated, which is likely to result in illness or
> > death, and for more than just the person refusing to be vaccinated.
>
> Nope.

wrong.

the evidence is clear that the risk in getting covid is *much* higher
for unvaccinated people than vaccinated. it's also common sense.

> < not interested in reading your essay >

because you know you're well over your head.

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