On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:18:12 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvsmocmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:06:04 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:41:53 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684r3yqmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:48:12 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:30:41 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0669lf0emvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:59:34 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:01:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.063lovo2mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:22:10 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-23 2:56 p.m., LegionX wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The "delta variant" is basically one that was created by those who chose
>>>>>>>> to get "vaccinated" with a concoction that is likely to kill them. It is
>>>>>>>> more contagious but also less potent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody is sticking any shit into my arm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor is anyone asking to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope they start demanding proof of vaccination once it gets full FDA
>>>>>> approval (which is likely coming soon).
>>>>>
>>>>> By which time it'll have been long gone anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly a lot of people believe that fantasy.
>>>
>>> Go look at the deaths on worldometer.
>>
>> OK? Does not break out the cause.
>
> It shows they're diminishing. Anyway, once we've all had it, nobody else can
> catch it.

The same people can get new variants, potentially. But the idea is to reduce
the harm below what it would be if all got it, with so many dying and 1/3 of
the population having long term ill effects.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:17:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvrtgqmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:05:16 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:42:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684sklomvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:48:48 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:30:21 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0669kvbpmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 07:48:03 +0100, LegionX
>>>>> <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HHI <HHI@imaginary.friend.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/25/21 11:24 PM, LegionX wrote:> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> Wrote
>>>>>>> in message:> >> One would think... but Gremlin was posting saying there was
>>>>>>> an explosion but he had not heard from himself.<>Gremlin didn't post
>>>>>>> anything. We did. We again invite you to> support your socking accusation
>>>>>>> snit. We supported ours when we> called you out for socking up as Sigmond.>
>>>>>>>>> Gremlin is not the sharpest tool in the shed, no matter what name he
>>>>>>> posts under.<>On Gremlins *worst days* he can still mop the floor with you
>>>>>>> on> *any tech subject* with fuckin ease. Any of us can.> >Gremlin only
>>>>>>> posts under one handle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shit. I forgot to mention Diesel.<> Snit. Diesel isn't a sock of Gremlins.
>>>>>>> It's an old handle he used
>>>>>> for the purposes of making things more difficult for the remailer
>>>>>> who revealed they had newbie level usenet search
>>>>>> skills.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you like to try again girlyman?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know what we mean you sock using asshole.<> We aren't mind readers. And
>>>>>>> even if one of us was - snits is far
>>>>>> too over self medicated on benzos and booze for us to read
>>>>>> his.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody fucking cares.
>>>>
>>>> Gremlin has forgotten how to wrap. Odd.
>>>
>>> You mean learned how to not wrap.
>>
>> Or wrap properly.
>
> It's a stupid thing to do, as you have no idea how wide the recipient's
> monitor is.

Wrapping properly or not at all is better than what Gremlin is managing these
days.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:17:20 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvq6afmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:04:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:43:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684vcpamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:51:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.06695xu0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:23 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:45:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.0644hq2omvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:57:57 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:08 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.063ls6u3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks, the fan makes no detectable noise when spinning at minimum speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It can run at lower speeds because of the making use of convection cooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once it's spinning, convection cannot occur. The air is moving faster than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One force does not stop when another starts, and presumably the fan is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> running all the time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Slow fans are not audible by humans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When needed they speed up... and I bet what you say is not audible often is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Convection is not as good as a speeded up fan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure... but those made to work with convection have that as an advantage. As
>>>>>>>> you note, though, there are tradeoffs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's coming through the same hole, convection does nothing at all when the
>>>>>>> fan is running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you figure?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the speed of the air forced by even a slow fan is an order of
>>>>> magnitude faster than convection.
>>>>
>>>> That would imply it does little, not nothing.
>>>
>>> I'd say negligible compared to a fan. It might be enough when the computer is
>>> idling, but if the fan runs at all, it's 10 times more cooling.
>>>
>>>> Would be interesting to see how much effect it really has. I suspect you get
>>>> much more with a vertical computer like an iMac than you do with a "flat"
>>>> computer like a laptop.
>>>
>>> Maybe, maybe not. If it's vertical, warm air from the bottom component is
>>> rising past the next component so it cools not so good.
>>
>> I think it works by having the hottest components at the top. Not sure.
>
> I tend to set up fans that way, so the cool air crosses the disks first,
> ending with the GPU.

You use convection to your advantage.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:16:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvqenvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:04:03 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:44:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684v4uymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:52:35 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.066946wpmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:08 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:46:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.0644jgo5mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:58:20 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:03:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.063lr600mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They are very clear it has no fan. There is no lie. But if you don't want one
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Might not technically be a lie, but it's still misrepresentation. Look at this
>>>>>>>>>>> powerful OR quiet machine....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To a large extent that is the choice you make. Another comparison I recently
>>>>>>>>>> watched:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Air gets amazing reviews. And notice being "quiet" is one of the reasons
>>>>>>>>>> listed (as is price, power, video rendering, instant wake on open, no power
>>>>>>>>>> throttling on battery, excellent keyboard, excellent build, excellent monitor,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.) Only thing noted it is not good for: gaming (which is no surprise).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For the fan comments: https://youtu.be/_wFmj1nMd-k?t=522
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You might not notice the fan noise... until you use a system which has no such
>>>>>>>>>> noise. I know for me I am bothered by fan noises. I appreciate the low sound
>>>>>>>>>> of Apple products.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With zero fan noise you're in danger of hearing traffic noises outside.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure. Still nice to have a quiet computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't matter how quiet it is, something will annoy me, like the cooling
>>>>>>> fan on a Sky TV box, or a refridgerator in the next room. Your ears have
>>>>>>> automatic level control. But the most annoying thing is a change in noise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Might not matter to you... does to me and to others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you have bad hearing.
>>>>
>>>> I have very sensitive hearing... but have a hard time "blocking out"
>>>> background noise. Comes with the dysautonomia I have.
>>>
>>> Then you should be like me. If you stop an annoying noise, you just end up
>>> hearing the next loudest one.
>>
>> Distance also plays some role in it. I do not mind noises as much if they are
>> not as close.
>
> Annoyance = volume/distance.

To some extent, yes.

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On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:16:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07cvpedcmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:03:13 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:29:41 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.06837rvdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:12:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0644g0qumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:04:57 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.063lujpgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, integrated graphics is a compromise. It'll manage a powerpoint
>>>>>>>>>>> presentation....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course it is a compromise -- the world is full of them. With the Macbook
>>>>>>>>>> Air it is designed to be lightweight and have a long battery life, and while
>>>>>>>>>> it fits a lot of needs it is not a gaming machine. But it absolutely does have
>>>>>>>>>> a GPU.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Surely one could be made that has a fan, but is only used if you start gaming
>>>>>>>>> on it? Just because a powerful chip is in there, doesn't mean it has to be
>>>>>>>>> used all the time. Being able to connect the screen to either the onboard or
>>>>>>>>> the GPU would be a good idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could make a machine with multiple CPUs and GPUs and more... but it would
>>>>>>>> be bigger and more expensive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. You can already buy machines with a seperate GPU. Why not just take one of
>>>>>>> those, but disable the GPU until you load a game etc? The built in graphics of
>>>>>>> the CPU could then take over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not all CPUs have integrated graphics. So you pay more for a CPU with the
>>>>>> integrated graphics then add a GPU to it. Then you can add an external GPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> It costs virtually nothing compared to the seperate GPU. A lot of desktops
>>>>> I've had have built in graphics and a seperate card.
>>>>
>>>> Desktops have less concern about heat and energy.
>>>
>>> Anything that's not doing calculations should emit no heat. My 6 month old
>>> Ryzen 3900XT CPU is absurd. It uses 150W at full power, but 40W when idle.
>>> WTF is it doing to use 40W?
>>
>> Idling. :)
>
> A human is better, it uses 150W at idle and 3-8000W at full blast. Although we
> do get tired.

And are grossly inefficient. We also say we want to speed up our metabolism...
becoming MORE inefficient!

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On 30/07/2021 20.19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:06:56 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:41:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.0684qxuumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>> Hell, the libertarian fantasy is being destroyed (again) right now.
>>>> People
>>>> won't even wear a mask to help save their neighbor... and you think
>>>> they will
>>>> pay for things they are not forced to?
>>>
>>> My neighbour is free to wear one himself.
>>
>> But you will not wear one to protect him. That is my point.
>
> I don't have to, as he has one on.

Wrong.

His mask protects you, and your mask protects him.
His mask does not protect him. Your mask does not protect you.

Unless you (and he) use a PPE.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:23:06 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 29, 2021 at 10:47:31 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07azpht8mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 20:16:18 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 11:57:30 AM MST, "Rabid Roach" wrote
>>> <uGYLI.42794$0Z7.19653@fx39.iad>:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-07-27 1:30 p.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:59:34 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:01:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.063lovo2mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:22:10 +0100, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2021-07-23 2:56 p.m., LegionX wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone
>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The "delta variant" is basically one that was created by those who
>>>>>>>> chose
>>>>>>>> to get "vaccinated" with a concoction that is likely to kill them.
>>>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>> more contagious but also less potent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody is sticking any shit into my arm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor is anyone asking to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope they start demanding proof of vaccination once it gets full FDA
>>>>>> approval (which is likely coming soon).
>>>>>
>>>>> By which time it'll have been long gone anyway.
>>>>
>>>> I'm _shocked_ that Marxist Snit is demanding tyranny.
>>>
>>> I did no such thing, nor am I a Marxist. But, hey, you got my online handle
>>> right. Good for you!
>>
>> Tyranny is "government by a ruler or small group of people who have unlimited
>> power over the people" - which is exactly what "demanding proof of
>> vaccination" is.
>
> How? Every society has safety standards. Do you not want your wait staff to
> have washed their hands after they use the restroom? Is that "tyranny" in your
> mind?

Yes it's tyranny. You should decide your own safety. Either cook your own food or go somewhere you know to be clean.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:23:28 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 29, 2021 at 10:45:53 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07azmrrymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:58:46 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0669x4pymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 06:54:29 +0100, LegionX
>>>> <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How the fuck can you need to ask someone if you're involved in an
>>>>>> explosion?<> Welcome to a flaw in snit logic. Gremlin didn't write the post
>>>>> snit is writing about. We did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Snit has accused us of being a Gremlin sock - we've invited him to
>>>>> post the evidence supporting his accusation. To snit that meant
>>>>> he would just continue to repeat it. In snits mind. Thats what
>>>>> evidence means.
>>>>>
>>>>> Snit didn't accuse us of this until we busted him socking up as
>>>>> Sigmond and provided actual evidence to help us prove our
>>>>> accusation. We caught him using the same IP address posting as
>>>>> Sigmond as he did with Snit. He didn't even deny he made both
>>>>> posts until we specifically pointed out the fact we found the
>>>>> posts shared the same ip in plain sight in the headers. Once we
>>>>> grilled him good and tore both of his explanations for this so
>>>>> called ip forgery (hah yep on usenet with known servers that
>>>>> werent compromised) he started accusing us of being a sock of
>>>>> Gremlins.
>>>>>
>>>>> We know enough about you to know that like snit you dont earn an
>>>>> income. You're also mooch and like snit very well known as a
>>>>> troll. But you're different in the sense your not a harmful troll
>>>>> whos out to fuck people over. You just do it for kicks. We get
>>>>> that. Snit on the other hand is a real life dangerous
>>>>> narcisist.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't it be obvious?<> It should be. But this is snits story so the
>>>>>> gaping holes in his
>>>>> "logic" are the reason he wrote what he did. Gremlin hasn't
>>>>> posted since June of this year. Snit has spent the time to
>>>>> continue badmouthing him every chance he gets. He really is that
>>>>> *jealous* of Gremlin.
>>>>
>>>> Get a life.
>>>
>>> I wonder if LegionX is Gremlin trying to pretend he has a flood bot similar to
>>> Carroll's.
>>
>> I stopped caring a long time ago. Maybe we should find them/it a hobby?
>
> Anger is his hobby these days.

I wonder if we could harness the energy of angry people?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:25:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 29, 2021 at 10:44:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07azkvg7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:53:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.06694nf0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 16:38:48 +0100, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LegionX <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> posted this:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's where our government and especially our subservient news media are
>>>>> letting the general public down, over simplified:
>>>>>
>>>>> "[My] People are destroyed for lack of knowledge." -- Hosea 4:6
>>>>>
>>>>> The COVID-19 "vaccinations" ONLY prevent the recipient[s] from getting
>>>>> seriously ill or dying from the virus. It DOES NOT prevent you from
>>>>> CONTRACTING the disease; CARRYING the virus; or, INFECTING OTHERS with the
>>>>> virus!
>>>>>
>>>>> These "vaccinations" DO NOT operate like insecticides and "kill the virus".
>>>>>
>>>>> They merely train specific human RNA strains to resist the virus attaching
>>>>> to a specific protien which causes immune system reactions which are so
>>>>> severe that it makes people severely ill or kills them...
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget that at the outset of this "pandemic" it was well publicized
>>>>> that ONE OF THE REASONS THIS VIRUS is so virulent is because an infected
>>>>> host (human) can carry and transmit the virus for ~2-weeks BEFORE showing
>>>>> any symptoms...
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, if you have the "vaccination[s]" - and are otherwise
>>>>> relatively healthy - and you contact the virus and IN FACT be "infected"
>>>>> but you simply will not get seriously ill or die from it... BUT you still
>>>>> CARRY THE VIRUS and CAN INFECT OTHER PEOPLE - WHO CAN IN TURN INFECT STILL
>>>>> MORE PEOPLE... AD INFINITUM - before the virus inside you dies because it
>>>>> cannot attach to the protien it needs to make you sick... IF you are
>>>>> otherwise relatively healthy...
>>>>
>>>> Which is one of the reasons not to get vaccinated. You're actally more
>>>> dangerous as you don't realise you're infected and contact more people.
>>>
>>> No, you are not. The amount of misinformation is absurd.
>>
>> The misinformation is because nobody knows.
>
> There is always more to learn, but we now know a lot about COVID and the
> vaccines -- for example, we know they are very safe and effective.

At stopping something that wasn't very dangerous anyway. And they're not that effective actually. 80% at best, something like 25% with a new variant. Like using last year's virus checker.

>> Best to ignore "scientists" who all disagree with each other.
>
> Disagreement is a part of science... but then so is a growing consensus as we
> learn more.

Until we've finished learning, we shouldn't believe any theories on the way. Look at the palava over which kind of fat is good for you.... if you had listened to scientists a decade ago, you would be making yourself worse.

>> I've heard a doctor (a surgeon) say the masks we wear are of no use
>> whatsoever. Unless we all used surgical masks, we might aswell not bother.
>
> That doctor is saying things against the evidence. I say go with the evidence.

A surgeon knows how good masks are.

And I wonder why they have surgical masks and don't just use the cheap Ebay ones we all use?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:34:55 +0100, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:53:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.06694nf0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 16:38:48 +0100, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LegionX <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> posted this:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's where our government and especially our subservient news media are
>>>>> letting the general public down, over simplified:
>>>>>
>>>>> "[My] People are destroyed for lack of knowledge." -- Hosea 4:6
>>>>>
>>>>> The COVID-19 "vaccinations" ONLY prevent the recipient[s] from getting
>>>>> seriously ill or dying from the virus. It DOES NOT prevent you from
>>>>> CONTRACTING the disease; CARRYING the virus; or, INFECTING OTHERS with the
>>>>> virus!
>>>>>
>>>>> These "vaccinations" DO NOT operate like insecticides and "kill the virus".
>>>>>
>>>>> They merely train specific human RNA strains to resist the virus attaching
>>>>> to a specific protien which causes immune system reactions which are so
>>>>> severe that it makes people severely ill or kills them...
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget that at the outset of this "pandemic" it was well publicized
>>>>> that ONE OF THE REASONS THIS VIRUS is so virulent is because an infected
>>>>> host (human) can carry and transmit the virus for ~2-weeks BEFORE showing
>>>>> any symptoms...
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, if you have the "vaccination[s]" - and are otherwise
>>>>> relatively healthy - and you contact the virus and IN FACT be "infected"
>>>>> but you simply will not get seriously ill or die from it... BUT you still
>>>>> CARRY THE VIRUS and CAN INFECT OTHER PEOPLE - WHO CAN IN TURN INFECT STILL
>>>>> MORE PEOPLE... AD INFINITUM - before the virus inside you dies because it
>>>>> cannot attach to the protien it needs to make you sick... IF you are
>>>>> otherwise relatively healthy...
>>>>
>>>> Which is one of the reasons not to get vaccinated. You're actally more
>>>> dangerous as you don't realise you're infected and contact more people.
>>>
>>> No, you are not. The amount of misinformation is absurd.
>>
>> The misinformation is because nobody knows.
>
> Wrong as usual. The vaccines reduce transmission by 80% after the first
> dose and 90% after both.
> https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm

Until you get a variant. Last year's AVG doesn't delete this year's computer viruses either.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:11:27 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:07:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvakjtmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:53:44 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:40:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684pvsxmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:42:55 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:33:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0669qox3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck finding an Apple M1 CPU and motherboard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even with Intel Macs it is not as easy as many seem to think. And if you did
>>>>>>>>> do it there was no reason to think the machine would be supported,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's no need to think: it is utterly unsupported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I meant not even being able to run the never version of macOS. My wording was
>>>>>>> not clear though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you build it with parts that Apple use, the OS thinks it's an Apple and
>>>>>> will behave exactly the same way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not quite as easy as you try to make it sound:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-reliable-is-a-64-bit-Hackintosh-as-a-main-computer
>>>>>
>>>>> But as a hobby project it sounds like fun.
>>>>
>>>> I know it's easy because I've done a few of them.
>>>
>>> How many macOS versions did you use on it?
>>
>> I've explained this already. If it fools one, it'll fool them all.
>
> So how many did you use?

One. Which is irrelevant.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:12:50 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:06:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cu9qpjmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, aren't *YOU* one of God's "special" little parasites?
>>>
>>> One thing seems for sure at this point: only the fucking brain-dead idiots,
>>> the poorest, the most ill-informed, and the most vulnerable among us will
>>> die from COVID-19 while the virus perpetuates itself because insolent
>>> assholes refuse to protect all of mankind by submitting to the simpliest of
>>> procedures and protocols...
>>>
>>> Reminds me of that poem, 'If', by Rudyard Kipling.
>>
>> You're confused, first you say only the ill-informed will die, then you say
>> we're endangering others.
>
> You increase your risk of infection and the risk you push onto others.
>
> It is like someone in a boat, saying they are only digging a hole in their own
> cabin so others should not try to control them. Or someone saying that the
> government should not tell them to drive on a specific side of the road.
>
> Selfish and short sighted and not seeing the overall impact they have... or
> not caring.

You seem to have now forgotten what you wrote earlier:

"only the fucking brain-dead idiots, the poorest, the most ill-informed, and the most vulnerable among us will die from COVID-19"

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:14:01 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:09:30 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvd4j6mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:57:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684o9yomvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even with Intel Macs it is not as easy as many seem to think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was fucking easy. Mainly just the motherboard needs to be the same, in my
>>>>>> case it was Foxconn boards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Motherboard and GPU and other components. And even then you might be one macOS
>>>>> update away from not being able to use it (with the update).
>>>>
>>>> Ok, maybe the GPU. But everything else is pretty standard.
>>>>
>>>> And I disagree on the update. If any combination is ok with version X, it will
>>>> be ok with version X+1, otherwise Apple would be killing off genuine Apples
>>>> too.
>>>
>>> I have heard horror stories of folks who have one only to have Apple change
>>> things and make them no longer work (with the new upgrade). Even have this on
>>> minor updates.
>>>
>>> Not sure how common it is though... I have never made one.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> And if you did
>>>>>>> do it there was no reason to think the machine would be supported, and if you
>>>>>>> ran into issues no way to get support from Apple, and Apple offers excellent
>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who asks for support from Apple/Microsoft? We use Google.
>>>>>
>>>>> I run into issue where Google has no answers.
>>>>
>>>> In which case nobody will.
>>>
>>> Worked recently with Apple on some odd issues a neighbor was having. In the
>>> end, I admit, they were not of much help... ended up doing a backup, wiping
>>> the drive, and starting from scratch. Never had to do that before. They were
>>> having very weird permissions issues... things would be allowed sometimes
>>> until they gave permission, then they were not allowed at all. Tried a new
>>> user. Re-installed the OS. Created another new user. No dice.
>>>
>>> Wiped the drive and brought their data back... and all was good. Very odd.
>>
>> Computers are getting too complicated and too random. They used to be simple
>> and would do the same thing under the same circumstances. The only good thing
>> about that is if one crashes, you can do exactly the same thing and it
>> probably won't the next time.
>
> I have seen oddities since the start of computers... though back in the days
> of the Apple II I never did have to wipe a hard drive. :)

I once found a professor had been using his Performa 475 for 20 years and never backed up a single file.

>>>>>>>>> Not only do you get the hardware about half the price, but you don't have
>>>>>>>>> to pay for the OS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> macOS has been free for the best part of a decade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You pay for it with the hardware... he is talking about pirating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a very naughty boy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are.
>>>>
>>>> Spank me.
>>>
>>> Can I take videos as I do it?
>>
>> Only if you have a Sony steadycam.
>
> Just ordered one from Amazon!

Ebay is cheaper, and is easier to find what you want.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:19:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:15:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvnzs7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:53 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:30:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.06838qlumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:13:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:15 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0644f1rmmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:08:31 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.063l0hysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:50:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:31:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <op.061pm5avmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it at
>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It was a fun game... and you can STILL play it:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.retrogames.cz/play_493-DOS.php?language=EN
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not understand the desire to play outdated quality stuff. This is what I
>>>>>>>> play: https://youtu.be/IbnW213nRO8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not much of a gamer... unless you count chess, but no real computer power
>>>>>>> needed for that. Even then I play about 1 game a day on average.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fallout 4 is better than real life. In fact I regularly do something in real
>>>>>> life and think Fallout 4 would have made it easier to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad you enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> Being able to insert some old tin cans and toothbrushes into a workshop and
>>>> having it create a fence is cool.
>>>
>>> Never played so do not get the reference.
>>
>> Part of the game is building settlements. If you've collected anything which
>> contains the things you need, eg. aluminium, gears, plastic, then you just
>> insert those into the "workshop" and ask it to produce the thing you want.
>
> Got it. Have seen similar... though can't even remember where.

There are many building type games, but this one is good because of the fighting in it too.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:19:16 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:14:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvmcmzmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:31:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684bcp4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:15:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0644cgstmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>>>>>>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>>>>>>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>>>>>>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
>>>>>> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
>>>>>> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
>>>>> computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
>>>>> RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.
>>>>
>>>> The computer above ended up with a free upgrade to 80MB when the 40MB disk
>>>> failed and they didn't have any spares. They also replaced the motherboard for
>>>> free when I shorted it out. Just because a serial printer uses the same
>>>> connector as a parallel printer, does not mean it's electrically compatible.
>>>
>>> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
>>> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
>>> fix that.
>>
>> To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!
>
> Try it on a new M1!

I have a soldering iron with the extra fine tip, will that do?

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:20:09 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:14:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvmcmzmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:31:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684bcp4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:15:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.0644cgstmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>>>>>>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>>>>>>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>>>>>>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
>>>>>> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
>>>>>> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
>>>>> computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
>>>>> RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.
>>>>
>>>> The computer above ended up with a free upgrade to 80MB when the 40MB disk
>>>> failed and they didn't have any spares. They also replaced the motherboard for
>>>> free when I shorted it out. Just because a serial printer uses the same
>>>> connector as a parallel printer, does not mean it's electrically compatible.
>>>
>>> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
>>> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
>>> fix that.
>>
>> To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!
>
> With the Apple IIgs I had a card and then a "daughter card" on that card. And
> then the hard drive was on a card next to those. All squished together. Had to
> put cardboard from a cereal box between them to stop them from touching.

I use cereal card if I'm putting an extra drive in temporarily to fix something or back up.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:22:12 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.07cvk1c4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:01:25 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:33:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.0684dkasmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:16:42 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:39:23 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.06437xjnmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Buying back guns from lawful owners simply means that when the thugs who
>>>>>>>>> got them illegally decide to commit crimes, nobody will be able to stop
>>>>>>>>> them. If your country gives you the right and the ability to defend
>>>>>>>>> yourself, why the heck would you sacrifice it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The idea is the thugs are less likely to be able to obtain one (eg. by
>>>>>>>> stealing it from a legal owner).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's interesting reasoning but it doesn't seem to be realistic. Besides,
>>>>>>> considering how tyrannical the governments of the world have already
>>>>>>> become with their reaction to the Kung Flu,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed on that.
>>>>>
>>>>> They should be requiring vaccinations for more things. End the damned
>>>>> pandemic.
>>>>
>>>> Forcing anyone to do anything is always wrong.
>>>>
>>>> It's just a bad flu! Stop making a mountain out of a molehill!
>>>
>>> It is not a flu, nor is it very similar to one other than how it spreads.
>>
>> It makes you feel like anything form "a bad cold" to "a horrid flu" from what
>> people have said.
>
> And it leaves 1/3 of those with it with lasting damage.

I've not seen any evidence of this theory.

> And kills far more.
> How many do you personally know who have died from it.

I don't know anyone who died, yet I know many weak people who got through it.

>>> But the fact people will not even do very basic things to protect each other
>>> from this pandemic is a great refutation of libertarianism. It simply does not
>>> work in the real world.
>>
>> These things are unnecessary as the chances of you dying are minimal.
>
> Already reduced the life expectancy in the US by one year.

That's a very small amount.

> The chances of
> dying going through a traffic light are very low -- so why should I be
> required to stop at red light?

You shouldn't, I don't. Especially "left on red", which is legal in the USA (although obviously yours is right).

>>>>>>> I am not sure that as an
>>>>>>> American, I would be willing to make it even easier for them to bully me
>>>>>>> around than it already is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The UK manages without guns.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are "tyrannical" with that, eh?
>>>>
>>>> We don't think anything of it. Nobody here except madmen have a desire to own
>>>> a gun. People do not feel threatened and want to defend themselves. Mainly
>>>> because of the lack of criminals with guns.
>>>
>>> But you want to control people and deny them their guns, eh?
>>
>> Libertarianism allows for a small amount of control - eg. locking up murderers.
>
> Who pays?

A very small income tax.

> And why jump to murderers? Only a very small percentage of guns are
> used in murders.

Because murder is about the only thing we should be stopping, along with burglary.

On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:50:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eo6vjymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:22:12 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cvk1c4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:01:25 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:33:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0684dkasmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:16:42 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:39:23 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.06437xjnmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Buying back guns from lawful owners simply means that when the thugs who
>>>>>>>>>> got them illegally decide to commit crimes, nobody will be able to stop
>>>>>>>>>> them. If your country gives you the right and the ability to defend
>>>>>>>>>> yourself, why the heck would you sacrifice it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The idea is the thugs are less likely to be able to obtain one (eg. by
>>>>>>>>> stealing it from a legal owner).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's interesting reasoning but it doesn't seem to be realistic. Besides,
>>>>>>>> considering how tyrannical the governments of the world have already
>>>>>>>> become with their reaction to the Kung Flu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agreed on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They should be requiring vaccinations for more things. End the damned
>>>>>> pandemic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Forcing anyone to do anything is always wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just a bad flu! Stop making a mountain out of a molehill!
>>>>
>>>> It is not a flu, nor is it very similar to one other than how it spreads.
>>>
>>> It makes you feel like anything form "a bad cold" to "a horrid flu" from what
>>> people have said.
>>
>> And it leaves 1/3 of those with it with lasting damage.
>
> I've not seen any evidence of this theory.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/monumental-acknowledgment-cdc-reports-long-term-covid-19-patients-n1234814

Plenty more I can show... and we can go back to the original studies.

>> And kills far more.
>> How many do you personally know who have died from it.
>
> I don't know anyone who died, yet I know many weak people who got through it.

You are lucky. I know several who have died.

One of the things I find interesting with the conservative worldview is how
things often do not matter to those on the right until it has a more direct
impact on them. We are seeing this, some, with vaccinations. Fewer people are
spreading misinformation and more people are opting to be vaccinated.

>>>> But the fact people will not even do very basic things to protect each other
>>>> from this pandemic is a great refutation of libertarianism. It simply does not
>>>> work in the real world.
>>>
>>> These things are unnecessary as the chances of you dying are minimal.
>>
>> Already reduced the life expectancy in the US by one year.
>
> That's a very small amount.

Compared to?

>
>> The chances of
>> dying going through a traffic light are very low -- so why should I be
>> required to stop at red light?
>
> You shouldn't, I don't. Especially "left on red", which is legal in the USA
> (although obviously yours is right).

Why stop at red lights at all? Why should I be forced to drive on the right?
It is arbitrary. You are not. What about my freedom? Can I not make the best
choices for myself?

That is what you sound like with the vaccine.

>
>>>>>>>> I am not sure that as an
>>>>>>>> American, I would be willing to make it even easier for them to bully me
>>>>>>>> around than it already is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The UK manages without guns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are "tyrannical" with that, eh?
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't think anything of it. Nobody here except madmen have a desire to own
>>>>> a gun. People do not feel threatened and want to defend themselves. Mainly
>>>>> because of the lack of criminals with guns.
>>>>
>>>> But you want to control people and deny them their guns, eh?
>>>
>>> Libertarianism allows for a small amount of control - eg. locking up murderers.
>>
>> Who pays?
>
> A very small income tax.

What if I do not want to pay?
>
>> And why jump to murderers? Only a very small percentage of guns are
>> used in murders.
>
> Because murder is about the only thing we should be stopping, along with
> burglary.

So I can have my 72 guns. OK.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:48:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eo2holmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:20:09 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:14:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cvmcmzmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:31:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0684bcp4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:15:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.0644cgstmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>>>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>>>>>>>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>>>>>>>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>>>>>>>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
>>>>>>> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
>>>>>>> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
>>>>>> computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
>>>>>> RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> The computer above ended up with a free upgrade to 80MB when the 40MB disk
>>>>> failed and they didn't have any spares. They also replaced the motherboard for
>>>>> free when I shorted it out. Just because a serial printer uses the same
>>>>> connector as a parallel printer, does not mean it's electrically compatible.
>>>>
>>>> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
>>>> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
>>>> fix that.
>>>
>>> To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!
>>
>> With the Apple IIgs I had a card and then a "daughter card" on that card. And
>> then the hard drive was on a card next to those. All squished together. Had to
>> put cardboard from a cereal box between them to stop them from touching.
>
> I use cereal card if I'm putting an extra drive in temporarily to fix
> something or back up.

I certainly can understand. :)

With the gs it was there as long as I had the machine.

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On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:47:29 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eo1fqbmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:19:16 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:14:26 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cvmcmzmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:31 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:31:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0684bcp4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:15:21 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.0644cgstmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Strip poker was the name, I think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it
>>>>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we did, but none in our group had a colour monitor (in the
>>>>>>>> 80's). I think, not sure, I got my first colour monitor in 1991. EGA or
>>>>>>>> VGA, I don't remember. Probably my graphics card was an "ATI Wonder +",
>>>>>>>> but I don't remember when exactly I got it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 1991, I had a 386 SX (no maths co processor) 16MHz with a 14" colour
>>>>>>> monitor doing 16 million colours at 1024*768. I very soon added a 1MB Cirrus
>>>>>>> Logic GPU for games, the Trident that came with it was slow as hell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My brother had an Apple IIe. Years later, long past it being a "modern"
>>>>>> computer, I got an Apple IIgs for fun. I bumped it up to a whopping 4.25 MB of
>>>>>> RAM and an incredible 170 MB hard drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> The computer above ended up with a free upgrade to 80MB when the 40MB disk
>>>>> failed and they didn't have any spares. They also replaced the motherboard for
>>>>> free when I shorted it out. Just because a serial printer uses the same
>>>>> connector as a parallel printer, does not mean it's electrically compatible.
>>>>
>>>> With the early Apple IIe systems you had to pop a chip out and turn it around
>>>> to go from supporting a modem to a printer... which was stupid. They later did
>>>> fix that.
>>>
>>> To upgrade the RAM on my ZX Spectrum required a soldering iron!
>>
>> Try it on a new M1!
>
> I have a soldering iron with the extra fine tip, will that do?

One way to find out.

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On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:47:09 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eo0vaomvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:19:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:15:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cvnzs7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:02:53 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:30:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.06838qlumvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:13:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2021 at 6:44:15 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.0644f1rmmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:56:15 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2021 at 11:08:31 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.063l0hysmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:50:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021 at 10:31:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <op.061pm5avmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just remembered a poker game, in which we had to win the girls to get
>>>>>>>>>>>> them to undress, in B/W CGA graphics - We had to coach our best poker
>>>>>>>>>>>> player in our student residence to play it for us :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you ever play Leisure Suit Larry? That was color EGA! We played it at
>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It was a fun game... and you can STILL play it:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.retrogames.cz/play_493-DOS.php?language=EN
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not understand the desire to play outdated quality stuff. This is what I
>>>>>>>>> play: https://youtu.be/IbnW213nRO8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not much of a gamer... unless you count chess, but no real computer power
>>>>>>>> needed for that. Even then I play about 1 game a day on average.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fallout 4 is better than real life. In fact I regularly do something in real
>>>>>>> life and think Fallout 4 would have made it easier to do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad you enjoy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Being able to insert some old tin cans and toothbrushes into a workshop and
>>>>> having it create a fence is cool.
>>>>
>>>> Never played so do not get the reference.
>>>
>>> Part of the game is building settlements. If you've collected anything which
>>> contains the things you need, eg. aluminium, gears, plastic, then you just
>>> insert those into the "workshop" and ask it to produce the thing you want.
>>
>> Got it. Have seen similar... though can't even remember where.
>
> There are many building type games, but this one is good because of the
> fighting in it too.

If I had it in front of me I might try it, but don't really seek playing
games. To each their own.

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On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:45:15 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eoxpk7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:12:50 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:06:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cu9qpjmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, aren't *YOU* one of God's "special" little parasites?
>>>>
>>>> One thing seems for sure at this point: only the fucking brain-dead idiots,
>>>> the poorest, the most ill-informed, and the most vulnerable among us will
>>>> die from COVID-19 while the virus perpetuates itself because insolent
>>>> assholes refuse to protect all of mankind by submitting to the simpliest of
>>>> procedures and protocols...
>>>>
>>>> Reminds me of that poem, 'If', by Rudyard Kipling.
>>>
>>> You're confused, first you say only the ill-informed will die, then you say
>>> we're endangering others.
>>
>> You increase your risk of infection and the risk you push onto others.
>>
>> It is like someone in a boat, saying they are only digging a hole in their own
>> cabin so others should not try to control them. Or someone saying that the
>> government should not tell them to drive on a specific side of the road.
>>
>> Selfish and short sighted and not seeing the overall impact they have... or
>> not caring.
>
> You seem to have now forgotten what you wrote earlier:
>
> "only the fucking brain-dead idiots, the poorest, the most ill-informed, and
> the most vulnerable among us will die from COVID-19"

What message ID?

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On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:44:28 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eowepimvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:11:27 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2021 at 11:07:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07cvakjtmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:53:44 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2021 at 10:40:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0684pvsxmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:42:55 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:33:50 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.0669qox3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck finding an Apple M1 CPU and motherboard.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even with Intel Macs it is not as easy as many seem to think. And if you did
>>>>>>>>>> do it there was no reason to think the machine would be supported,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's no need to think: it is utterly unsupported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I meant not even being able to run the never version of macOS. My wording was
>>>>>>>> not clear though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you build it with parts that Apple use, the OS thinks it's an Apple and
>>>>>>> will behave exactly the same way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not quite as easy as you try to make it sound:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-reliable-is-a-64-bit-Hackintosh-as-a-main-computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But as a hobby project it sounds like fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it's easy because I've done a few of them.
>>>>
>>>> How many macOS versions did you use on it?
>>>
>>> I've explained this already. If it fools one, it'll fool them all.
>>
>> So how many did you use?
>
> One. Which is irrelevant.

So it MIGHT have worked with others but that was not tested.

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On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:42:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eotxeemvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:25:02 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 29, 2021 at 10:44:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07azkvg7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:53:59 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:42:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.06694nf0mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 16:38:48 +0100, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LegionX <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> posted this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you so bored with your life that you reply to me about someone else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. We are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some of us sadly live in a city where the elected officials have
>>>>>>> enforced another mask mandate. Due to covid delta variant spread.
>>>>>>> We're back to remote office work. We are beyond bored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's where our government and especially our subservient news media are
>>>>>> letting the general public down, over simplified:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "[My] People are destroyed for lack of knowledge." -- Hosea 4:6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The COVID-19 "vaccinations" ONLY prevent the recipient[s] from getting
>>>>>> seriously ill or dying from the virus. It DOES NOT prevent you from
>>>>>> CONTRACTING the disease; CARRYING the virus; or, INFECTING OTHERS with the
>>>>>> virus!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These "vaccinations" DO NOT operate like insecticides and "kill the virus".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They merely train specific human RNA strains to resist the virus attaching
>>>>>> to a specific protien which causes immune system reactions which are so
>>>>>> severe that it makes people severely ill or kills them...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget that at the outset of this "pandemic" it was well publicized
>>>>>> that ONE OF THE REASONS THIS VIRUS is so virulent is because an infected
>>>>>> host (human) can carry and transmit the virus for ~2-weeks BEFORE showing
>>>>>> any symptoms...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, if you have the "vaccination[s]" - and are otherwise
>>>>>> relatively healthy - and you contact the virus and IN FACT be "infected"
>>>>>> but you simply will not get seriously ill or die from it... BUT you still
>>>>>> CARRY THE VIRUS and CAN INFECT OTHER PEOPLE - WHO CAN IN TURN INFECT STILL
>>>>>> MORE PEOPLE... AD INFINITUM - before the virus inside you dies because it
>>>>>> cannot attach to the protien it needs to make you sick... IF you are
>>>>>> otherwise relatively healthy...
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is one of the reasons not to get vaccinated. You're actally more
>>>>> dangerous as you don't realise you're infected and contact more people.
>>>>
>>>> No, you are not. The amount of misinformation is absurd.
>>>
>>> The misinformation is because nobody knows.
>>
>> There is always more to learn, but we now know a lot about COVID and the
>> vaccines -- for example, we know they are very safe and effective.
>
> At stopping something that wasn't very dangerous anyway. And they're not that
> effective actually. 80% at best, something like 25% with a new variant. Like
> using last year's virus checker.

Where are you getting your information?

And do you stop at red lights? If so, why?

>
>>> Best to ignore "scientists" who all disagree with each other.
>>
>> Disagreement is a part of science... but then so is a growing consensus as we
>> learn more.
>
> Until we've finished learning, we shouldn't believe any theories on the way.

We never finish learning.

> Look at the palava over which kind of fat is good for you.... if you had
> listened to scientists a decade ago, you would be making yourself worse.
>
>>> I've heard a doctor (a surgeon) say the masks we wear are of no use
>>> whatsoever. Unless we all used surgical masks, we might aswell not bother.
>>
>> That doctor is saying things against the evidence. I say go with the evidence.
>
> A surgeon knows how good masks are.
>
> And I wonder why they have surgical masks and don't just use the cheap Ebay
> ones we all use?

Has someone suggested all masks are equal?

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On Jul 31, 2021 at 10:40:47 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.07eop911mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:23:28 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 29, 2021 at 10:45:53 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.07azmrrymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:58:46 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2021 at 10:38:18 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.0669x4pymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 06:54:29 +0100, LegionX
>>>>> <MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How the fuck can you need to ask someone if you're involved in an
>>>>>>> explosion?<> Welcome to a flaw in snit logic. Gremlin didn't write the post
>>>>>> snit is writing about. We did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snit has accused us of being a Gremlin sock - we've invited him to
>>>>>> post the evidence supporting his accusation. To snit that meant
>>>>>> he would just continue to repeat it. In snits mind. Thats what
>>>>>> evidence means.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snit didn't accuse us of this until we busted him socking up as
>>>>>> Sigmond and provided actual evidence to help us prove our
>>>>>> accusation. We caught him using the same IP address posting as
>>>>>> Sigmond as he did with Snit. He didn't even deny he made both
>>>>>> posts until we specifically pointed out the fact we found the
>>>>>> posts shared the same ip in plain sight in the headers. Once we
>>>>>> grilled him good and tore both of his explanations for this so
>>>>>> called ip forgery (hah yep on usenet with known servers that
>>>>>> werent compromised) he started accusing us of being a sock of
>>>>>> Gremlins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We know enough about you to know that like snit you dont earn an
>>>>>> income. You're also mooch and like snit very well known as a
>>>>>> troll. But you're different in the sense your not a harmful troll
>>>>>> whos out to fuck people over. You just do it for kicks. We get
>>>>>> that. Snit on the other hand is a real life dangerous
>>>>>> narcisist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be obvious?<> It should be. But this is snits story so the
>>>>>>> gaping holes in his
>>>>>> "logic" are the reason he wrote what he did. Gremlin hasn't
>>>>>> posted since June of this year. Snit has spent the time to
>>>>>> continue badmouthing him every chance he gets. He really is that
>>>>>> *jealous* of Gremlin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get a life.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if LegionX is Gremlin trying to pretend he has a flood bot similar to
>>>> Carroll's.
>>>
>>> I stopped caring a long time ago. Maybe we should find them/it a hobby?
>>
>> Anger is his hobby these days.
>
> I wonder if we could harness the energy of angry people?

We can try.

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