But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
vaccines are safe!

<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9480051/Medical-student-21-died-day-getting-J-J-vaccine.html>

<https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/39-year-old-dies-after-astrazeneca-vaccine-a-second-dose-following-sinovac>

<https://www.the-sun.com/news/2305200/doctor-dies-36-others-develop-rare-blood-disorder-vaccines/>

<https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/woman-dies-after-second-vaccine-dose-under-mix-and-match-program/>

<https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/alberta-woman-death-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine/>

<https://greekreporter.com/2021/06/18/greek-woman-dies-after-second-pfizer-vaccine/>

Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
today. But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!

NOSPAMIPEDIA DEMANDS IT!

--
Rabid Roach
John 15:18

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:17:30 -0400, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:

>But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
>vaccines are safe!
>
.....
>Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
>today. But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!
>
>NOSPAMIPEDIA DEMANDS IT!

It's a gamble. Not quite as risky as going in a car!

Steve
--
http://www.npsnn.com

On 2021-07-26 10:28 a.m., Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:17:30 -0400, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>
>> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
>> vaccines are safe!
>>
> ....
>> Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
>> today. But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!
>>
>> NOSPAMIPEDIA DEMANDS IT!
>
> It's a gamble. Not quite as risky as going in a car!

I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and
sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll
recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With
the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction of
chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss or
something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a husband
and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants me to take
that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the most
important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.

One must only look at what they did in 1976 and wonder whether they
might be doing the same thing today:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak>

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain-Barr%C3%A9_Syndrome"

Today:
<https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/07/scientists-warn-of-guillain-barre-syndrome-paralysis-after-covid-19-vaccination/>

"Richard Krause, director of the National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious Diseases from 1975 to 1984, writes that the government
response to the swine flu outbreak was considered to be too fast."

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_COVID-19_vaccine_development>

"Virologist Paul Offit commented that, in hindsight, the development of
a safe and effective vaccine within 11 months was a remarkable feat."

Despite the problems, they still want us to trust them and thus:

"There is not even complete agreement about the causal relationship
between the swine flu vaccine and Guillain-Barré syndrome"

In other words, take the vaccine you stupid muppet. If you end up
suffering for it, we can always claim that it wasn't our fault.
--
Rabid Roach
John 15:18

"Rabid Roach" <rabid@roa.ch> wrote

| I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and
| sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll
| recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With
| the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
| will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction of
| chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss or
| something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a husband
| and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants me to take
| that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the most
| important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.

I'm with you. And don't forget the best part: Not getting
the shot allows you to pretend that you control your fate.
Better to die fighting a libtard virus than to live on but
lose face for being a dumbass.

I'm sure if Nathan Hale were here today he'd say, "I regret
that I have but one life to sacrifice to the libtard virus." And
of course there's the Declaration of Independence, which
promises us the right to death, irascibility, and the pursuit
of our own personal truth.

You're a true patriot.

Mayayana wrote:
> "Rabid Roach" <rabid@roa.ch> wrote
>
> | I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and
> | sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll
> | recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With
> | the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
> | will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction of
> | chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss or
> | something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a husband
> | and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants me to take
> | that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the most
> | important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.
>
> I'm with you. And don't forget the best part: Not getting
> the shot allows you to pretend that you control your fate.
> Better to die fighting a libtard virus than to live on but
> lose face for being a dumbass.
>
> I'm sure if Nathan Hale were here today he'd say, "I regret
> that I have but one life to sacrifice to the libtard virus." And
> of course there's the Declaration of Independence, which
> promises us the right to death, irascibility, and the pursuit
> of our own personal truth.
>
> You're a true patriot.
>
>

Good one!

So even if the dumbass survives relatively symptom-free what's the harm
in giving the virus one more stab at rolling the evolutionary-dice just
one more time? Maybe it will be the lucky winner to produce a variant
absolutely unstoppable and totally lethal.

The point is 'it's not about you'

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 26/07/2021 14:17, Rabid Roach wrote:
> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
> vaccines are safe!
>
> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9480051/Medical-student-21-died-day-getting-J-J-vaccine.html>
>
>
> <https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/39-year-old-dies-after-astrazeneca-vaccine-a-second-dose-following-sinovac>
>
>
> <https://www.the-sun.com/news/2305200/doctor-dies-36-others-develop-rare-blood-disorder-vaccines/>
>
>
> <https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/woman-dies-after-second-vaccine-dose-under-mix-and-match-program/>
>
>
> <https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/alberta-woman-death-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine/>
>
>
> <https://greekreporter.com/2021/06/18/greek-woman-dies-after-second-pfizer-vaccine/>

Now do the same /everyone/ who has died from COVID. Include names and
photos for as many as you can.

>
> Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
> today.

Possibly, but not necessarily. These are extremely rare events and
trying to separate random events from causative events is almost impossible.

> But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!

There have been nearly 4 BILLION doses of COVID vaccine administered and
you've managed to find SIX deaths related to them: 1.5 deaths per
*BILLION* doses
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Whereas there have been 195 million COVID cases and 4 million deaths: 1
death per *FORTY-NINE* cases.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

You are far, far more likely to die from COVID than the vaccine,
especially if you're a 40+yo; in the order 100,000,000 times.

On 2021-07-26 12:00 p.m., Mayayana wrote:
> "Rabid Roach" <rabid@roa.ch> wrote
>
> | I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and
> | sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll
> | recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With
> | the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
> | will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction of
> | chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss or
> | something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a husband
> | and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants me to take
> | that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the most
> | important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.
>
> I'm with you. And don't forget the best part: Not getting
> the shot allows you to pretend that you control your fate.
> Better to die fighting a libtard virus than to live on but
> lose face for being a dumbass.
>
> I'm sure if Nathan Hale were here today he'd say, "I regret
> that I have but one life to sacrifice to the libtard virus." And
> of course there's the Declaration of Independence, which
> promises us the right to death, irascibility, and the pursuit
> of our own personal truth.
>
> You're a true patriot.

I only need one response:
<https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19>

"“Several months ago, our studies showed that natural infection induced
a strong response, and this study now shows that the responses last,”
Weiskopf says. “We are hopeful that a similar pattern of responses
lasting over time will also emerge for the vaccine-induced responses.”"

vs.

<https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/295582>

"it was reported this morning that two residents had tested COVID-19
positive despite the fact that both were vaccinated with the first dose
and exactly three weeks later, were vaccinated with the second dose."

<https://www.thestatesman.com/cities/bhubaneshwar/odisha-274-fully-vaccinated-people-contract-covid-19-receiving-double-doses-1502976118.html>

"Odisha: 274 fully vaccinated people contract COVID-19 after receiving
double doses"

Take that shot, faggot! It won't protect you against the variants and
potentially ruin your life but... but... THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

--
Rabid Roach
John 15:18

Should be "OT..."

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> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
> vaccines are safe!
>
> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9480051/Medical-student-21-died-day-getting-J-J-vaccine.html>
>
> <https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/39-year-old-dies-after-astrazeneca-vaccine-a-second-dose-following-sinovac>
>
> <https://www.the-sun.com/news/2305200/doctor-dies-36-others-develop-rare-blood-disorder-vaccines/>
>
> <https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/woman-dies-after-second-vaccine-dose-under-mix-and-match-program/>
>
> <https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/alberta-woman-death-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine/>
>
> <https://greekreporter.com/2021/06/18/greek-woman-dies-after-second-pfizer-vaccine/>
>
> Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
> today. But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!
>
> NOSPAMIPEDIA DEMANDS IT!
>
> --
> Rabid Roach
> John 15:18
>
>

On 2021-07-26 12:37 p.m., Chris wrote:
> On 26/07/2021 14:17, Rabid Roach wrote:
>> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
>> vaccines are safe!
>>
>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9480051/Medical-student-21-died-day-getting-J-J-vaccine.html>
>>
>>
>> <https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/39-year-old-dies-after-astrazeneca-vaccine-a-second-dose-following-sinovac>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.the-sun.com/news/2305200/doctor-dies-36-others-develop-rare-blood-disorder-vaccines/>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/woman-dies-after-second-vaccine-dose-under-mix-and-match-program/>
>>
>>
>> <https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/alberta-woman-death-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine/>
>>
>>
>> <https://greekreporter.com/2021/06/18/greek-woman-dies-after-second-pfizer-vaccine/>
>
>
> Now do the same /everyone/ who has died from COVID. Include names and
> photos for as many as you can.

I'm not doing your work for you.

>> Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
>> today.
>
> Possibly, but not necessarily. These are extremely rare events and
> trying to separate random events from causative events is almost
> impossible.

They would have died anyway. I love that response.

>> But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!
>
> There have been nearly 4 BILLION doses of COVID vaccine administered and
> you've managed to find SIX deaths related to them: 1.5 deaths per
> *BILLION* doses
> https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
>
> Whereas there have been 195 million COVID cases and 4 million deaths: 1
> death per *FORTY-NINE* cases.
> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
>
> You are far, far more likely to die from COVID than the vaccine,
> especially if you're a 40+yo; in the order 100,000,000 times.

I'm doing you a favour by not getting it: there's all the more supply
for the rest of you.

--
Rabid Roach
John 15:18

On 2021-07-26 12:49 p.m., John Doe wrote:
> Should be "OT..."

You're right. I won't even bother with it anymore.

--
Rabid Roach
John 15:18

On 26/07/2021 16:50, Rabid Roach wrote:
> On 2021-07-26 10:28 a.m., Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:17:30 -0400, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
>>> vaccines are safe!
>>>
>> ....
>>> Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
>>> today. But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!
>>>
>>> NOSPAMIPEDIA DEMANDS IT!
>>
>> It's a gamble. Not quite as risky as going in a car!
>
> I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and
> sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll
> recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection.

You're not the first to think that and you won't be the last. Many
people have died or had severe symptoms thinking that it won't affect them.
https://www.businessinsider.com/people-who-died-from-coronavirus-after-not-taking-it-seriously-2020-7

In your age group you're 10 times more likely to die that an <30 year old.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html

> With
> the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
> will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction of
> chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss or
> something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a husband
> and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants me to take
> that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the most
> important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.

Nothing is guaranteed, but you're basing your judgement on a lottery

> One must only look at what they did in 1976 and wonder whether they
> might be doing the same thing today:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak>
>
> "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain-Barr%C3%A9_Syndrome"
>
> Today:
> <https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/07/scientists-warn-of-guillain-barre-syndrome-paralysis-after-covid-19-vaccination/>

GBS is well-documented and very rare side effect of some vaccines. The
risk of GBS is significantly lower than the risk of the disease in all
cases.

>
> "Richard Krause, director of the National Institute of Allergy and
> Infectious Diseases from 1975 to 1984, writes that the government
> response to the swine flu outbreak was considered to be too fast."
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_COVID-19_vaccine_development>
>
> "Virologist Paul Offit commented that, in hindsight, the development of
> a safe and effective vaccine within 11 months was a remarkable feat."

Indeed it was.

>
> Despite the problems, they still want us to trust them and thus:

What problems?

> "There is not even complete agreement about the causal relationship
> between the swine flu vaccine and Guillain-Barré syndrome"
>
> In other words, take the vaccine you stupid muppet. If you end up
> suffering for it, we can always claim that it wasn't our fault.

In places where there is high vaccine coverage, the majority of those
dying from COVID are the unvaccinated. Are you prepared to become
another sad statistic?

Rabid Roach wrote:
> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me

You could walk out of your door right now, and be
run over by a car.

Do you sit around all day, belaboring the invention
of the automobile ? "If only we'd stuck with them horse
and buggy". Well, people used to get run over by horse
and buggy too.

https://amishamerica.com/category/buggy-accidents/

There's a danger of you developing Guillain-Barre syndrome,
without a vaccine at all. It occurs naturally. Do you sit
around all day, complaining about how life is so cruel ?

Well, no, you just cherry-pick crap, without adding any value.

When the Delta gets you, we'll write a wonderful obit for you.
"The last thing he said was "why is hospital Jello so weird?"".
Even in the hospital, you'll be trolling.

Paul

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 12:00:40 -0400, Mayayana wrote:

> "Rabid Roach" <rabid@roa.ch> wrote
>
> | I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and |
> sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll |
> recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With |
> the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
> | will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction
> of | chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss
> or | something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a
> husband | and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants
> me to take | that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the
> most | important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.
>
> I'm with you. And don't forget the best part: Not getting
> the shot allows you to pretend that you control your fate.
> Better to die fighting a libtard virus than to live on but lose face for
> being a dumbass.
>
> I'm sure if Nathan Hale were here today he'd say, "I regret
> that I have but one life to sacrifice to the libtard virus." And of
> course there's the Declaration of Independence, which promises us the
> right to death, irascibility, and the pursuit of our own personal truth.
>
> You're a true patriot.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting brain fog, you'll never notice
the difference.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 14:30:19 -0400, Paul wrote:

> Rabid Roach wrote:
>> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me
>
> You could walk out of your door right now, and be run over by a car.
>
> Do you sit around all day, belaboring the invention of the automobile ?
> "If only we'd stuck with them horse and buggy". Well, people used to get
> run over by horse and buggy too.
>
> https://amishamerica.com/category/buggy-accidents/
>
> There's a danger of you developing Guillain-Barre syndrome, without a
> vaccine at all. It occurs naturally. Do you sit around all day,
> complaining about how life is so cruel ?
>
> Well, no, you just cherry-pick crap, without adding any value.
>
> When the Delta gets you, we'll write a wonderful obit for you. "The last
> thing he said was "why is hospital Jello so weird?"".
> Even in the hospital, you'll be trolling.
>
> Paul

Congratulations Paul, you've posted a concise understandable response
with which I agree.
Unfortunately, the people to whom it is addressed will ignore it.

On 26/07/2021 17:49, Rabid Roach wrote:
> On 2021-07-26 12:37 p.m., Chris wrote:
>> On 26/07/2021 14:17, Rabid Roach wrote:
>>> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
>>> vaccines are safe!
>>>
>>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9480051/Medical-student-21-died-day-getting-J-J-vaccine.html>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/39-year-old-dies-after-astrazeneca-vaccine-a-second-dose-following-sinovac>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.the-sun.com/news/2305200/doctor-dies-36-others-develop-rare-blood-disorder-vaccines/>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/woman-dies-after-second-vaccine-dose-under-mix-and-match-program/>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/alberta-woman-death-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine/>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://greekreporter.com/2021/06/18/greek-woman-dies-after-second-pfizer-vaccine/>
>>
>>
>>
>> Now do the same /everyone/ who has died from COVID. Include names and
>> photos for as many as you can.
>
> I'm not doing your work for you.

I'm trying to help you do your work properly. You're simply showing only
one side of the story.

It's like reporting from a war zone and only talking about shrapnel wounds.

>
>>> Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
>>> today.
>>
>> Possibly, but not necessarily. These are extremely rare events and
>> trying to separate random events from causative events is almost
>> impossible.
>
> They would have died anyway. I love that response.
>
>>> But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!
>>
>> There have been nearly 4 BILLION doses of COVID vaccine administered
>> and you've managed to find SIX deaths related to them: 1.5 deaths per
>> *BILLION* doses
>> https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
>>
>> Whereas there have been 195 million COVID cases and 4 million deaths:
>> 1 death per *FORTY-NINE* cases.
>> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
>>
>> You are far, far more likely to die from COVID than the vaccine,
>> especially if you're a 40+yo; in the order 100,000,000 times.

It's noticeable you've not resoponded to any of the data. You're more
interested in anecdote.

> I'm doing you a favour by not getting it: there's all the more supply
> for the rest of you.

You're actually making it worse for others. In particular the most
vulnerable who either cannot get the vaccine or those with a weakened
immune system where the vaccine doesn't work properly.

In article <JByLI.87999$Vv6.21759@fx45.iad>, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch>
wrote:

> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
> vaccines are safe!
>
>
> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9480051/Medical-student-21-died-da
> y-getting-J-J-vaccine.html>
>
> <https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/39-year-old-dies-after-astrazeneca-vaccine-
> a-second-dose-following-sinovac>
>
>
> <https://www.the-sun.com/news/2305200/doctor-dies-36-others-develop-rare-blood-
> disorder-vaccines/>
>
>
> <https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/woman-dies-after-second-
> vaccine-dose-under-mix-and-match-program/>
>
>
> <https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/alberta-woman-death-astrazeneca-covid-vacc
> ine/>
>
>
> <https://greekreporter.com/2021/06/18/greek-woman-dies-after-second-pfizer-vac
> cine/>
>
> Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
> today.

nonsense.

there is *zero* evidence that the vaccine is what killed them or that
they'd still be alive if they had not taken it.

meanwhile, *far* more people die from covid every day than from the
vaccines.

> But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!

yep.

In article <sdmocv$if2$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!
>
> There have been nearly 4 BILLION doses of COVID vaccine administered and
> you've managed to find SIX deaths related to them: 1.5 deaths per
> *BILLION* doses
> https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
>
> Whereas there have been 195 million COVID cases and 4 million deaths: 1
> death per *FORTY-NINE* cases.
> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
>
> You are far, far more likely to die from COVID than the vaccine,
> especially if you're a 40+yo; in the order 100,000,000 times.

he has great difficulty with simple math.

In article <4RALI.13201$B3Uf.6790@fx17.iad>, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch>
wrote:

>
> I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and
> sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll
> recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With
> the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
> will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction of

you just showed your true colours.

> chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss or
> something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a husband
> and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants me to take
> that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the most
> important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.

meanwhile. your risk of getting covid without a vaccine is *much*
higher, and what's worse is you could unknowingly spread it to your
wife and kid, causing both of them to become ill and possibly die.

> One must only look at what they did in 1976 and wonder whether they
> might be doing the same thing today:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak>

no need to wonder. it's not the same thing.

> "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain-Barr%C3%A9_Syndrome"
>
> Today:
>
> <https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/07/scientists-warn-of-guillain-barre-syndrom
> e-paralysis-after-covid-19-vaccination/>

people who *didn't* get the vaccine also can get guillan-barre.

statistically, the difference is insignificant.

> "Richard Krause, director of the National Institute of Allergy and
> Infectious Diseases from 1975 to 1984, writes that the government
> response to the swine flu outbreak was considered to be too fast."

maybe so, but that's not relevant.

> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_COVID-19_vaccine_development>
>
> "Virologist Paul Offit commented that, in hindsight, the development of
> a safe and effective vaccine within 11 months was a remarkable feat."

it was remarkable, however, it also had 20+ years of research behind it.

they didn't start from scratch.

On 2021-07-26 2:47 p.m., david c wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 12:00:40 -0400, Mayayana wrote:
>
>> "Rabid Roach" <rabid@roa.ch> wrote
>>
>> | I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and |
>> sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll |
>> recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With |
>> the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
>> | will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction
>> of | chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss
>> or | something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a
>> husband | and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants
>> me to take | that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the
>> most | important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.
>>
>> I'm with you. And don't forget the best part: Not getting
>> the shot allows you to pretend that you control your fate.
>> Better to die fighting a libtard virus than to live on but lose face for
>> being a dumbass.
>>
>> I'm sure if Nathan Hale were here today he'd say, "I regret
>> that I have but one life to sacrifice to the libtard virus." And of
>> course there's the Declaration of Independence, which promises us the
>> right to death, irascibility, and the pursuit of our own personal truth.
>>
>> You're a true patriot.
>
> I wouldn't worry too much about getting brain fog, you'll never notice
> the difference.

Says the brainiac who's too lazy to capitalize his own friggin' name.

--
Rabid Roach
Immune to all _ist labels

On 2021-07-26 4:04 p.m., Rabid Roach wrote:
> On 2021-07-26 2:47 p.m., david c wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 12:00:40 -0400, Mayayana wrote:
>>
>>> "Rabid Roach" <rabid@roa.ch> wrote
>>>
>>> | I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and |
>>> sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll |
>>> recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With |
>>> the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
>>> | will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction
>>> of | chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss
>>> or | something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a
>>> husband | and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants
>>> me to take | that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the
>>> most | important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.
>>>
>>>    I'm with you. And don't forget the best part: Not getting
>>> the shot allows you to pretend that you control your fate.
>>> Better to die fighting a libtard virus than to live on but lose face for
>>> being a dumbass.
>>>
>>>    I'm sure if Nathan Hale were here today he'd say, "I regret
>>> that I have but one life to sacrifice to the libtard virus." And of
>>> course there's the Declaration of Independence, which promises us the
>>> right to death, irascibility, and the pursuit of our own personal truth.
>>>
>>> You're a true patriot.
>>
>> I wouldn't worry too much about getting brain fog, you'll never notice
>> the difference.
>
> Says the brainiac who's too lazy to capitalize his own friggin' name.
>
>

Muscular between the ears.

Rene

Mayayana wrote:
> "Rabid Roach" <rabid@roa.ch> wrote
>
> | I'm a muscular 42 year-old who gets a constant dose of vitamins and
> | sunlight. I MIGHT get the Kung Flu but there is a 99% chance that I'll
> | recuperate and get natural antibodies against a future infection. With
> | the vaccine, I MIGHT be protected though there is still a chance that I
> | will get the Kung Flu and an even greater chance that the concoction of
> | chemicals will cause me to get brain fog, blood clots, memory loss or
> | something that would cause my death leaving my wife without a husband
> | and my son without a father. The ever-loving government wants me to take
> | that chance and potentially miss out on being there for the most
> | important persons I have ever laid my eyes on.
>
> I'm with you. And don't forget the best part: Not getting
> the shot allows you to pretend that you control your fate.
> Better to die fighting a libtard virus than to live on but
> lose face for being a dumbass.
>
> I'm sure if Nathan Hale were here today he'd say, "I regret
> that I have but one life to sacrifice to the libtard virus." And
> of course there's the Declaration of Independence, which
> promises us the right to death, irascibility, and the pursuit
> of our own personal truth.
>
> You're a true patriot.
>
>

Good one!

So even if the dumbass survives relatively symptom-free what's the harm
in giving the virus one more stab at rolling the evolutionary-dice just
one more time? Maybe it will be the lucky winner to produce a variant
absolutely unstoppable and totally lethal.

The point is 'it's not about you'

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 7/26/21 11:30 AM, Paul wrote:
> Rabid Roach wrote:
>> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me
>
> You could walk out of your door right now, and be
> run over by a car.
>
> Do you sit around all day, belaboring the invention
> of the automobile ? "If only we'd stuck with them horse
> and buggy". Well, people used to get run over by horse
> and buggy too.
>
>    https://amishamerica.com/category/buggy-accidents/
>
> There's a danger of you developing Guillain-Barre syndrome,
> without a vaccine at all. It occurs naturally. Do you sit
> around all day, complaining about how life is so cruel ?
>
> Well, no, you just cherry-pick crap, without adding any value.
>
> When the Delta gets you, we'll write a wonderful obit for you.
> "The last thing he said was "why is hospital Jello so weird?"".
> Even in the hospital, you'll be trolling.
>
>    Paul

Paul,

You left some things our of your otherwise good analysis.

1) The death rate from the commie flu ion now very low,
including the variants

2) The vaccine is NOT A VACCINE. It is an experimental
mRNA threaten

3) There have been 4000 reported deaths from the mRNA
treatment with ~ 13% reported.

4) The "government" is such a pack of absolute liars:
Masks are useless in stopping ANY virus; social distancing
is a joke; lock downs ruining folks lives and businesses
are only temporary at best. And it is not as if all this
was not proven with multiple Randomized

The question arises, what are these liars lying about now?
It is no coincidence that THE ONLY evidence of the above
working is ass hole standing around in white coats
pull shit out their asses. Their recommendation ARE NOT
science. They are classic propanda narratives.

5) after the severe life threatening reactions to the
mRNA treatment, the follow up threat from the mRNA
treatment is Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE).
mRNA treatments as legendary for this. What is means
is that after the fake antibodies wear off, your own
immune system will be incapable of creating antibodies
to what was targeted by the mRNA treatment.

In case you missed what I just said, if ADE kicks in on
you and the endless booster treatments don't kill you,
the virus WILL kill you. And that is not an *IF*.

And I am not joking. There has not been enough time to
test humans for ADE, but there has with animals models.
Guess what. THEY ALL DIED.

Hope the F***ing yearly booster shot works and they
somehow figure out a way to reduce the severe
reactions to it.

6) does not help that any off use off drugs shown to
treat the commie flu with Randomized Clinical
Trials is being suppressed by social media, Google,
and the liars in the government, especially if Trump
mentioned them. These real fascists (not what they
call everyone else that disagrees with them) would
rather die than admit Trump was right about something.
This has been highly politicized from the git go.

7) evidence of mRNA jabbed individuals still catching
the commie flu are being suppressed, as is the now
very low death rate, and the death rate from the jab
itself.

Oh and not telling people that this IS NOT A VACCINE.

Your point that this is a crap shoot is absolutely accurate.
My only problem with your analysis is that it was not
based on complete information. This is a personal
decision on the individuals part. My only objection
is they they make that decision FULLY INFORMED.
And not by Gleichschaltung.

And there are other way to protect yourself when out in
public. You can do what the medical staff does
in China. They have an extremely low doctor death
rate to the commie flu. Anyone interested, I will
provide Randomized Clinical Trials.

-T

On 7/26/21 11:52 AM, david c wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 14:30:19 -0400, Paul wrote:
>
>> Rabid Roach wrote:
>>> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me
>>
>> You could walk out of your door right now, and be run over by a car.
>>
>> Do you sit around all day, belaboring the invention of the automobile ?
>> "If only we'd stuck with them horse and buggy". Well, people used to get
>> run over by horse and buggy too.
>>
>> https://amishamerica.com/category/buggy-accidents/
>>
>> There's a danger of you developing Guillain-Barre syndrome, without a
>> vaccine at all. It occurs naturally. Do you sit around all day,
>> complaining about how life is so cruel ?
>>
>> Well, no, you just cherry-pick crap, without adding any value.
>>
>> When the Delta gets you, we'll write a wonderful obit for you. "The last
>> thing he said was "why is hospital Jello so weird?"".
>> Even in the hospital, you'll be trolling.
>>
>> Paul
>
> Congratulations Paul, you've posted a concise understandable response
> with which I agree.
> Unfortunately, the people to whom it is addressed will ignore it.
>

Hi David,

Paul's analysis is good except that full disclosure
is being withheld from the public. This is a personal
decision and it should be made while fully informed
any not by the liars in the government and American
Pravda.

Here is what I am talking about;

FDA Admits Covid-19 Vaccine Worse Than Illness

https://www.rodefshalom613.org/2021/03/fda-admits-covid-vaccine-worse-than-illness/

Here are the liars refuted with actual science on
the "Mask Up" front.

Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: a systematic review

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/face-masks-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a-systematic-review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

The mRNA jab, which IS NOT A VACCINE, is your choice to
take or not. Be fully informed before you do.

-T

"Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> wrote

| So even if the dumbass survives relatively symptom-free what's the harm
| in giving the virus one more stab at rolling the evolutionary-dice just
| one more time? Maybe it will be the lucky winner to produce a variant
| absolutely unstoppable and totally lethal.
| | The point is 'it's not about you'

The scary thing about this kind of attitude is that I assume
anyone in this group has at least some aptitude for scientific
thinking. Yet science and common sense are completely
overshadowed by magical thinking, pig-headedness, and
disinformation campaigns.

I saw an interesting article today about how a company was
caught trying to get social media "influencers" to post a video
implying the Pfizer vaccine was faulty. They were offering $2000
to people who would post it. The BBC did some research and
found the company was backed by "AdNow", which is some kind
of advertising company set up jointly in England and Russia. The
English manager claims he had no idea what the Russian was
doing. The Russian manager refuses to respond to questions.

On 2021-07-26 4:15 p.m., nospam wrote:
> In article <JByLI.87999$Vv6.21759@fx45.iad>, Rabid Roach <rabid@roa.ch>
> wrote:
>
>> But nospamipedia and its infinite wealth of knowledge told me the
>> vaccines are safe!
>>
>>
>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9480051/Medical-student-21-died-da
>> y-getting-J-J-vaccine.html>
>>
>> <https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/39-year-old-dies-after-astrazeneca-vaccine-
>> a-second-dose-following-sinovac>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.the-sun.com/news/2305200/doctor-dies-36-others-develop-rare-blood-
>> disorder-vaccines/>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/woman-dies-after-second-
>> vaccine-dose-under-mix-and-match-program/>
>>
>>
>> <https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/alberta-woman-death-astrazeneca-covid-vacc
>> ine/>
>>
>>
>> <https://greekreporter.com/2021/06/18/greek-woman-dies-after-second-pfizer-vac
>> cine/>
>>
>> Had these people never gotten the vaccine, they would still be alive
>> today.
>
> nonsense.
>
> there is *zero* evidence that the vaccine is what killed them or that
> they'd still be alive if they had not taken it.

Liar.

> meanwhile, *far* more people die from covid every day than from the
> vaccines.

The number of _cases_ does not extend to _deaths_, no. Besides, it has
already been reported that hospitals were labeling something a COVID-19
death even if the virus had nothing to do with their demise. According
to this: <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/> there
are 626,826 _confirmed_ COVID deaths so far in the United States whereas
there are apparently at least 45,000 vaccine deaths
<https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bombshell-lawsuit-govt-whistleblower-says-coronavirus-vaccine-deaths-at-least-45000>.
Those ratios aren't too favourable.

Just for fun, here's a man and how well he managed getting the Moderna
shot. He doesn't look like he's older than I am.
<https://tv.gab.com/channel/r04ch/status/60ff44e37eeb835822ab4416>

>> But remember to do the right thing and get vaccinated, people!
>
> yep.

_You_ in particular should do the right thing and not only get two doses
but the third dose they're going to push as well as the eventual monthly
booster shot. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you oh beacon
of light and knowledge?

--
Rabid Roach
Immune to all _ist labels