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* Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?Robin Goodfellow
+* Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?VanguardLH
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|| |   `- Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?Carlos E. R.
|| `- Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?nospam
|`- Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?Robin Goodfellow
+* Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?Michael Logies
|+* Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?sms
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||  `* Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?RabidHussar
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Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:05 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>> What about graphical wifi debugging on iOS verses on all other platforms?
>
> what about it?

Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?
> if you want app functionality (using your words) that doesn't exist, or
> more commonly, that *does* exist and you can't figure out how to use,
> regardless of platform, consider it an opportunity to write such an app
> and profit from it.

That's 1 of your 7 responses to the fact you _hate_ the iPhone is crippled.
> not that you have any such skills to do so, but that's a separate issue.

That's another of your 7 responses when you defend the crippled iPhone to
the death. Don't you think it's time, after all these years, for an 8th?

1. nospam will first brazenly call every fact he hates "false" or "lies";
2. nospam will then fabricate the existence of the imaginary functionality;
3. nospam then blames everyone else but Apple for the missing capability;
4. nospam fabricates that he told you already even though he couldn't have;
5. nospam says you should write your own apps if you want functionality;
6. nospam accuses you of being too stupid to write all your own iOS apps;
7. nospam finally resorts to an infinity of ftfy & ad hominem deflections;

8. ???

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:14 UTC

In article <sgrurb$10hf$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> >> The Google Pixel 5a with 5G isn't courageous; it's downright cowardly!
> >
> > the pixel 5a also overheats and throttles down to where it stops
> > working in as little as a half-hour.
>
> You always blame everyone you can for Apple's lack of a headphone jack.

i'm not blaming anyone for anything.

i'm simply pointing out that the pixel 5a, which *you* mentioned, has
significant thermal problems.

you ignore that because you're an stupid apple-hating troll.

anything else gets a free pass, even if it's completely unusable.

the link i cited explained that it slowed down and stopped working in a
half-hour.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:14 UTC

In article <sgru8l$p8j$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> An audiophile would not use Bluetooth headphones or speakers because
> technically there can be some degradation.

not due to bluetooth, because the signal path is entirely digital from
the phone to the headphones, with the d/a in the headphones.

that means that the sound quality is entirely dependent on the quality
the speaker components, *not* bluetooth.

> But thw degradation assumes
> that you've stored your music files in a lossless format like FLAC or
> ALAC.

nope. it doesn't assume that.

> If you've stored your music in a lossy format like MP3, AAC, or
> WAV, the quality ship sailed long before the music is sent over Bluetooth.

only if it's a low bitrate.

256kbps aac is audibly indistinguishable from lossless, something which
has been repeatedly confirmed in objective double-blind tests, even
with people who claim to be audiophiles.

any difference might show up on an oscilloscope, but it's not anything
anyone can hear.

> Plugging a wire into the USB or Lightning port and then using a dongle
> that converted the sound from digital to analog would be preferable to
> Bluetooth if you're playing music stored in a lossless format.

even better is to skip the adapter entirely.

high end headphones have a much better d/a than any adapter ever could
as well as what's internal to the phone.

> Even
> then, it would be difficult for a non-audiophile to realize the
> difference unless perhaps they were comparing the same music in MP3
> versus ALAC or FLAC, using the same equipment.

even audiophiles can't tell the difference between properly encoded
mp3/aac and lossless, using the same content on the same equipment.

they might think they can, but in objective tests, they do no better
than chance. they're guessing.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:14 UTC

In article <sgrv1l$12c7$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> >> Not having the annoyance of a wire is nice,
> >
> > very much so.
>
> Not having the choice is an annoyance.

iphone users have a choice of wired or wireless.

that's *always* been the case.

meanwhile, there are at least two android phones that do not have a usb
port, forcing wireless for everything. to be fair, neither sells in any
appreciable quantities.

as usual, you're criticizing the wrong products.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:14 UTC

In article <sgrvd9$15nb$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> *Apple admitted their _sole_ purpose was to _reduce_ iPhone useful life.*

nope. they did the exact opposite, *extending* the useful life.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:14 UTC

In article <sgrvlu$1876$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> > the amount of functionality on ios that is not on android is
> > substantial.
>
> Name it nospam.

i did, many times. so have others.

> I'll test it out (remember, I have iOS devices also).

that's not possible, given that you failed to understand anything that
was listed.

all you did was go off on a rant.

part of your rant was about things not listed, which means you didn't
even read it.

your ranting is how you intentionally avoid any type of testing because
you know you're full of shit and don't want to be caught, again.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:20 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sglu05$cdk$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
> <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
>
>> I also don't have _any_ account on my phone (nothing to the mother ship!).
>
> you've admitted to creating google accounts.
>
> google knows who you are, even if you later remove it.
>
Arlen sockpuppet?

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:24 UTC

In article <WradneUyBsjwG6z8nZ2dnUU7-XHNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

> > In article <sglu05$cdk$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
> > <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> >> I also don't have _any_ account on my phone (nothing to the mother ship!).
> >
> > you've admitted to creating google accounts.
> >
> > google knows who you are, even if you later remove it.
>
> Arlen sockpuppet?

yes, it is.

he's morphed into multiple concurrent nyms.

he's still mildly entertaining.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:29 UTC

Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>> google knows who you are, even if you later remove it.
>
> How?
> Tell us something if you know how Google knows who we are.
>
> My WISP changes my home IP address any time I ask him to.
> My carrier is floating on the IP address too.
> My location _never_ geolocates to my home.
> And I use offline GPS unless/until I really _need_ Google Maps.
> Even then, without a login, I'm just an IP address to Google.
> I never use email on the phone (mainly because of typing).
> Nor do I use the web (the phone is too small & hard to type).
> And none of my apps are Google apps (e.g., my SMS/MMS isn't).
> I don't have contacts in the sqlite contacts database.
> And I don't use the Google phone or contacts or calendar anyway.
> I never use Google Play (there's never a need to anyway).
> And my phone is set up to _not_ upload nearby Access Points.
> Also my access points are all hidden broadcast (as you're well aware).
>
> Sometimes you know something that I don't know (maybe one time out of a
> hundred, which makes you useful as those other Apple morons like Jolly
> Roger, Lewis, Joerg, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, et. al don't even get 1 out of
> 100)... so tell me... please.
>
Listing fetish activated. Not long before the clown lists people in its
signature again. Kook.
>
> Pray tell... tell me...
> *How does Google know who I am from my cellphone?*
>
We know who you are Arlen. Dingbat. What a silly twit. So transparent.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:32 UTC

Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>>> https://www.iphonehacks.com/2010/03/apple-bans-wifi-stumbler-iphone-apps-blame
>>> s-use-of-private-apis.html
>>
>> that's more than 11 years old.
>>
>> a *lot* has changed since then.
>
>
> FACT:
> Only iOS is so crippled that it can't do even the simplest of basic things.
>
> And yet, even 11 years old, it proves yet again you were full of shit.
> *The facts show it is Apple itself who made the iPhone a cripple.*
>
> Not the app developers (as you had claimed).
> And not the lack of customer desire (as you also had claimed).
>
> You'll stop at nothing to defend against the fact the iPhone is crippled.
>
> FACT:
> Every operating system _except_ iOS has these graphical wifi debuggers.
>
FACT:
Arlen troll has nymshitted again.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:37 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <WradneUyBsjwG6z8nZ2dnUU7-XHNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> In article <sglu05$cdk$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
>>> <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
>>>> I also don't have _any_ account on my phone (nothing to the mother ship!).
>>>
>>> you've admitted to creating google accounts.
>>>
>>> google knows who you are, even if you later remove it.
>>
>> Arlen sockpuppet?
>
> yes, it is.
>
> he's morphed into multiple concurrent nyms.
>
> he's still mildly entertaining.
>
So is a case of shingles.

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Subject: Re: Arlen troll IDed (was Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:28:15 +0000
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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:28 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> asked
> Hemidactylus is a moron...

FACT:
a. It took Hemidactylus _months_ to figure out what isn't even hidden?
b. Every time these utter morons post they found the elephant, I laugh.
c. They _think_ they're utter geniuses for finally figuring out the obvious.

I changed when I received death threats (by people who hate Apple facts).
And I _posted_ those death threats (after reporting them to the FBI).
If the fantastic moron hemidactylus missed that - it's his fault - not mine.

FACT:
A. An example of the obvious is I say I'm in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
B. Another example of the obvious is I said what phone I use & carrier.
C. I even posted these screenshots (which nobody does but me).
https://i.postimg.cc/qvHYTf3L/charging01.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cL7z1D7N/charging02.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CKFQRjJn/charging03.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/jSX2j0Mj/charging04.jpg
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https://i.postimg.cc/yNrWgwVc/charging07.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/gchrjS1L/charging08.jpg

Duh. How fantastically _stupid_ are these trolls like hemidactylus anyway?
With those kinds of screenshots it _still_ takes the morons _months_?

And, after all that, Hemidactylus thinks he's announcing something when, the
moron himself is the _only_ one who doesn't see the obvious.

Geez. These idiots make me shake my head.
Who knew people _that_ stupid actually exist.
(I'm in the Silicon Valley where people are educated & intelligent.)

Jesus Christ.

How fantastically _stupid_ are these trolls like hemidactylus anyway?
It's not so much that these dunning kruger idiots are morons of IQ 30.
It's they _think_ they're utter geniuses for figuring out what's not hidden!

Besides...
1. What matters isn't the wrapping paper but what's in the package.
2. Each time I get a death threat, I report it to the FBI (online form).
3. I've provided more value in this _one_ thread today than Hemidactylus
has provided in his _entire_ life (he's _that_ worthless of a POS).

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/PPytim49ufc
*Visible charge indicator & sound for tired old eyes & ears*

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Please add value to the _body_ of that thread (or any thread).
(We don't give a shit what is in your NNTP headers.)
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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:39 UTC

On 2021-09-02 8:28 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> asked
>> Hemidactylus is a moron...
>
> FACT:
> a. It took Hemidactylus _months_ to figure out what isn't even hidden?
> b. Every time these utter morons post they found the elephant, I laugh.
> c. They _think_ they're utter geniuses for finally figuring out the obvious.
>
> I changed when I received death threats (by people who hate Apple facts).
> And I _posted_ those death threats (after reporting them to the FBI).

And if you're as anonymous as you claim...

....why was it necessary to change your posting nym because of these
alleged "threats"

> If the fantastic moron hemidactylus missed that - it's his fault - not mine.
>
> FACT:
> A. An example of the obvious is I say I'm in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
> B. Another example of the obvious is I said what phone I use & carrier.
> C. I even posted these screenshots (which nobody does but me).
> https://i.postimg.cc/qvHYTf3L/charging01.jpg
> https://i.postimg.cc/cL7z1D7N/charging02.jpg
> https://i.postimg.cc/CKFQRjJn/charging03.jpg
> https://i.postimg.cc/jSX2j0Mj/charging04.jpg
> https://i.postimg.cc/sXBgKBsB/charging05.jpg
> https://i.postimg.cc/8CCjC1VT/charging06.jpg
> https://i.postimg.cc/yNrWgwVc/charging07.jpg
> https://i.postimg.cc/gchrjS1L/charging08.jpg
>
> Duh. How fantastically _stupid_ are these trolls like hemidactylus anyway?
> With those kinds of screenshots it _still_ takes the morons _months_?
>
> And, after all that, Hemidactylus thinks he's announcing something when, the
> moron himself is the _only_ one who doesn't see the obvious.
>
> Geez. These idiots make me shake my head.
> Who knew people _that_ stupid actually exist.
> (I'm in the Silicon Valley where people are educated & intelligent.)
>
> Jesus Christ.
>
> How fantastically _stupid_ are these trolls like hemidactylus anyway?
> It's not so much that these dunning kruger idiots are morons of IQ 30.
> It's they _think_ they're utter geniuses for figuring out what's not hidden!
>
> Besides...
> 1. What matters isn't the wrapping paper but what's in the package.
> 2. Each time I get a death threat, I report it to the FBI (online form).

I bet you can't post a link to this alleged "form"...

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From: Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net (Robin Goodfellow)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:47:13 +0000
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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:47 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
> he's still mildly entertaining.

I think it's funny you've accused virtually everyone of being he.
Sooner or later, if you accuse _everyone_ you'll get it by chance.
Meanwhile, who he is isn't even hidden ('cept to the utter morons).

BTW, nospam, *does iOS have any battery charge & level widgets yet?*
<https://i.postimg.cc/yNrWgwVc/charging07.jpg>

Or is iOS also crippled in that too?
(I haven't checked yet as I solved Vanguard's issue first on Android.)

--
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> asked
> Hemidactylus is a moron...

FACT:
a. It took Hemidactylus _months_ to figure out what isn't even hidden?
b. Every time these utter morons post they found the elephant, I laugh.
c. They _think_ they're utter geniuses for finally figuring out the obvious.

I changed when I received death threats (by people who hate Apple facts).
And I _posted_ those death threats (after reporting them to the FBI).
If the fantastic moron hemidactylus missed that - it's his fault - not mine.

FACT:
A. An example of the obvious is I say I'm in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
B. Another example of the obvious is I said what phone I use & carrier.
C. I even posted these screenshots (which nobody does but me).
https://i.postimg.cc/qvHYTf3L/charging01.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cL7z1D7N/charging02.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CKFQRjJn/charging03.jpg
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https://i.postimg.cc/sXBgKBsB/charging05.jpg
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https://i.postimg.cc/yNrWgwVc/charging07.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/gchrjS1L/charging08.jpg

Duh. How fantastically _stupid_ are these trolls like hemidactylus anyway?
With those kinds of screenshots it _still_ takes the morons _months_?

And, after all that, Hemidactylus thinks he's announcing something when, the
moron himself is the _only_ one who doesn't see the obvious.

Geez. These idiots make me shake my head.
Who knew people _that_ stupid actually exist.
(I'm in the Silicon Valley where people are educated & intelligent.)

Jesus Christ.

How fantastically _stupid_ are these trolls like hemidactylus anyway?
It's not so much that these dunning kruger idiots are morons of IQ 30.
It's they _think_ they're utter geniuses for figuring out what's not hidden!

Besides...
1. What matters isn't the wrapping paper but what's in the package.
2. Each time I get a death threat, I report it to the FBI (online form).
3. I've provided more value in this _one_ thread today than Hemidactylus
has provided in his _entire_ life (he's _that_ worthless of a POS).

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/PPytim49ufc
*Visible charge indicator & sound for tired old eyes & ears*

Want to add value to Usenet?
Please add value to the _body_ of that thread (or any thread).
(We don't give a shit what is in your NNTP headers.)
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Subject: Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?
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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:51 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
> i'm not blaming anyone for anything.

You always blame everyone you can for Apple's lack of a headphone jack.

Your sleazy deflection tactics are similar to Apple's sleazy tactics.
Blame _secret_ throttling (& backdated release notes) on battery chemistry.

At least the "courageous" Pixel 5a 5G _has_ a "cowardly" headphone jack!

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:53 UTC

On 2021-09-02 8:51 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>> i'm not blaming anyone for anything.
>
> You always blame everyone you can for Apple's lack of a headphone jack.

Nope.

You're simply lying.

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:05 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
> iphone users have a choice of wired or wireless.

Choice?
You mean juicy Apple profits, right?

For example...
*How do you charge that crippled iPhone while listening to music?*

How do you charge that iPhone with the charger that came in the box when the
charger port is used to replace the lost functionality of the headphone jack
that Apple "courageously" removed so that you'd buy "stuff" to get it back?

Oh wait, you didn't even get a charger in the box?
Oh my.

And, Apple cheaped out on the batteries too?
Really?

Oh, I see.
Cheap batteries. No charger. No headphone port.

[*Apple used extremely cheap battery parts in the iPhone 12*
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21394985/apple-iphone-12-battery-cost-5g-kuo
https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/21/apple-to-offset-cost-of-5g-iphone-components-with-cheaper-battery-tech
https://www.maticstoday.com/2020/08/21/why-apple-is-using-cheap-battery-parts-in-iphone-12/
https://9to5mac.com/2020/08/21/kuo-iphone-12-5g-component-cost/
https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-iphone-12-to-use-smaller-cheaper-battery
https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/20/kuo-iphone-12-battery-board/
https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/apple-opting-for-cheaper-battery-parts-to-cut-costs-on-5g-iphone-12-analyst-ming-chi-kuo/640657
https://techlog360.com/apple-will-use-cheaper-parts-in-the-iphone-12/

Wow.
I'm sorry for you.

All that choice Apple exercised to _remove_ functionality.
Apple sure has done a lot recently to further cripple the iPhone indeed.

But no way is Apple removing functionality one by one.
Just so that you'd have to buy it back.

Naaaah.
Apple wouldn't do such a thing.

They earn their profits the non-sleazy way.
Right?

Let's see...
a. No charger & no earbuds in the box
b. Puny and very cheap batteries
c. No headphone jack

Well then, how do you charge that crippled iPhone while listening to music?

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From: notonyourlife@no.no.no.no (Alan Baker)
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Subject: Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?
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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:06 UTC

On 2021-09-02 9:05 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>> iphone users have a choice of wired or wireless.
>
> Choice?
> You mean juicy Apple profits, right?
>
> For example...
> *How do you charge that crippled iPhone while listening to music?*

Magsafe.

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Subject: Re: Why is it that only iOS is missing graphical wifi debuggers?
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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:10 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>> *Apple admitted their _sole_ purpose was to _reduce_ iPhone useful life.*
>
> nope. they did the exact opposite, *extending* the useful life.

Then why did Apple admit guilt for purposefully _shortening_ iPhone life?
And why was Apple's throttling _secret_ by trying to not get caught?
And, why did Apple also secretly _backdate_ all the iPhone release notes?

Apple paid over a billion dollars for all those lies last year alone.

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:12 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>> Name it nospam.
>
> i did, many times. so have others.

See #4 response below from nospam as he becomes increasingly desperate to
defend everything about Apple (to the death!) that he _hates_ is a fact.

1. nospam will first brazenly call every fact he hates "false" or "lies";
2. nospam will then fabricate the existence of the imaginary functionality;
3. nospam then blames everyone else but Apple for the missing capability;
4. nospam fabricates that he told you already even though he couldn't have;
5. nospam says you should write your own apps if you want functionality;
6. nospam accuses you of being too stupid to write all your own iOS apps;
7. nospam finally resorts to an infinity of ftfy & ad hominem deflections;

These Apple zealots own no shame.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:28 UTC

In article <sgs5e5$prn$2@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
<notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:

> On 2021-09-02 8:28 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> > 2. Each time I get a death threat, I report it to the FBI (online form).
>
> I bet you can't post a link to this alleged "form"...

i'm curious what he puts in that form.

how does he explain how someone who switches nyms so frequently managed
to be outed to where his life was supposedly in danger.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:28 UTC

In article <sgs64f$1as4$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> At least the "courageous" Pixel 5a 5G _has_ a "cowardly" headphone jack!

except it stops working after a half-hour, a rather important detail
you are ignoring.

<https://www.androidcentral.com/touchscreen-wonk-and-heat-problems-plagu
e-some-google-pixel-5a-users>
Just taking a bevy of photos and some short 1080p videos on an
80-degree Florida morning (can summer end already?) had it slow
down and eventually stop working in under half an hour...

you are also ignoring that the pixel 5, 4, 3 and 2 do *not* have an
analog headphone jack.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:28 UTC

In article <sgs6te$1idk$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> *How do you charge that crippled iPhone while listening to music?*

when using wired headphones, put it on any standard qi pad.

when using the built in speakers or bluetooth headphones, use either
any standard usb power adapter or a standard qi pad.

battery life when playing audio is as much as 80 hours (iphone 12 pro
max), so it's not an actual real-world problem. nobody is going to
listen to music for anywhere close to that long.

most people use headphones when they are *out* and away from mains
power, so they can't listen and charge it at the same time even if they
wanted to.

tl;dr non-issue.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:28 UTC

In article <sgs783$1lkr$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> >> *Apple admitted their _sole_ purpose was to _reduce_ iPhone useful life.*
> >
> > nope. they did the exact opposite, *extending* the useful life.
>
> Then why did Apple admit guilt for purposefully _shortening_ iPhone life?

they didn't.

> And why was Apple's throttling _secret_ by trying to not get caught?

they weren't.

> And, why did Apple also secretly _backdate_ all the iPhone release notes?

they didn't.

the real question is why do you lie so much?

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:29 UTC

On 2021-09-02 9:10 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>>> *Apple admitted their _sole_ purpose was to _reduce_ iPhone useful life.*
>>
>> nope. they did the exact opposite, *extending* the useful life.
>
> Then why did Apple admit guilt for purposefully _shortening_ iPhone life?

They didn't; admit it or do it.

> And why was Apple's throttling _secret_ by trying to not get caught?

That's not even a properly constructed sentence.

Try again.

> And, why did Apple also secretly _backdate_ all the iPhone release notes?

Proof, please!

>
> Apple paid over a billion dollars for all those lies last year alone.

Cite, please!

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