On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:

> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>>
>>>> John Savard
>>>
>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>> --
>>> Jim
>>
>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>> continuing income stream.
>
> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.

Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.

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On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, Argot Brogue wrote:

> On 7/25/22 15:55, Peter Flass wrote:
>> That’s a fairly stupid statement, since something like 70% of the
>> population has been vaccinated, and I doubt if many of us regret our
>> decision.
>
> Except for all the ones who were killed by the vax. How much would you wager
> that they regretted their decisions?

Yes. One just have to look into kill bates foundation human experiment in
India with their HPV "vaccine" and the disastrous outcomes. Yet people
trust this mental case ... It's beyond me why.

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On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 21:53:51 -0000 (UTC), John Levine
<johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>According to Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>:
>>And, on the other hand, syphillis and gonhorrea are both bacterial
>>rather than viral diseases. The Human Immunodeficiency Virus
>>was *also* unknown during my childhood.
>
>I suspect people had heard of smallpox and polio by then.
>
>(I'm wondering how much protection the smallpox shot I got in
>the 1950s gives me against monkeypox.)

It is supposed to help protext against monkeypox.
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300
Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:

> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.

<sigh> We're back to the old chestnut "100% of non-smokers die".

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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300
>Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
>
>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>
><sigh> We're back to the old chestnut "100% of non-smokers die".
>

Kill files were added to usenet clients for a reason. The trolls attracted
by the unfortunate choice to use the v word in an usenet subjectline are a fine
start to a killfile if you don't already have one in place. Far better
than trying to set them straight.

On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>
>> The way I see it is the hospitals were on the verge of meltdown, we
>> went into a series of lockdowns and got most of us vaccinated, we released
>> the lockdowns and the hospitals didn't melt down.
>>
>
> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
> happen.

God you are thick! Before people were vaccinated, many got VERY ill and
needed ventilators and lots of hospitalisation. After Vaccination (and
of course Covid infection) a lot less people get VERY ill and a lot less
need hospitalisation.

On 2022-07-26, Argot Brogue <y@gb.sm> wrote:
> On 7/25/22 17:52, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> That just means that the vaccines aren't perfect. In the world that
>> I live in, nothing is perfect. The vaccines do help tip the odds in
>> your favour, though.
>
> Your magical thinking is quite amusing.

No, he's perfectly rational and sane.

On 2022-07-26, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300
>> Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
>>
>>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>>
>> <sigh> We're back to the old chestnut "100% of non-smokers die".

And 100% of alcoholics started on milk.

I think it was Heinlein who said, "Oxygen is a toxic, highly addictive
gas. As little as one breath can trigger a lifelong addiction, which
invariably ends in death."

> Kill files were added to usenet clients for a reason. The trolls attracted
> by the unfortunate choice to use the v word in an usenet subjectline are a fine
> start to a killfile if you don't already have one in place. Far better
> than trying to set them straight.

https://xkcd.com/386/

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Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>
>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Savard
>>>>
>>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>> continuing income stream.
>>
>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>
> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>

Pretty much everyone is going to die. The questions are when and how.

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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-07-26, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300
>>> Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>>>
>>> <sigh> We're back to the old chestnut "100% of non-smokers die".
>
> And 100% of alcoholics started on milk.
>
> I think it was Heinlein who said, "Oxygen is a toxic, highly addictive
> gas. As little as one breath can trigger a lifelong addiction, which
> invariably ends in death."
>
>> Kill files were added to usenet clients for a reason. The trolls attracted
>> by the unfortunate choice to use the v word in an usenet subjectline are a fine
>> start to a killfile if you don't already have one in place. Far better
>> than trying to set them straight.
>
> https://xkcd.com/386/
>

I used to have this pasted up over my computer :-)

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On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 7:28:29 PM UTC-6, Auntie Wirus wrote:

> I don't need to prove the virus doesn't exist. The burden of proof was,
> is, and remains on you who claim that a virus is ravaging humanity and
> putting us all in mortal peril. Scaremongering is not proof.

1) Unless the mainstream media is just making things up, that burden
has already been met.

2) When the fire alarm sounds in a building, it is advisable to head
rapidly for the exit without first investigating whether it really is
on fire. Hence, your assignment of the burden of proof is not
rational or conducive to survival.

John Savard

On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 2:43:48 PM UTC-6, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> I think it was Heinlein who said, "Oxygen is a toxic, highly addictive
> gas. As little as one breath can trigger a lifelong addiction, which
> invariably ends in death."

In that case, he can be credited with being the inspiration for dihydrogen
monoxide. Which deadly substance is also found in most vaccines!

John Savard

On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 12:00:40 PM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Far better
> than trying to set them straight.

I have no expectation of being able to accomplish that.

Presenting counter-arguments only makes it harder for them to
fool other people.

John Savard

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 12:00:40 PM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Far better
>> than trying to set them straight.
>
>I have no expectation of being able to accomplish that.
>
>Presenting counter-arguments only makes it harder for them to
>fool other people.

What, all 30 people who regularly monitor alt.folklore.computers?

You're wasting your time.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300, Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it>
wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>
>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Savard
>>>>
>>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>> continuing income stream.
>>
>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>
>Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.

Hmm, I didn't catch polio, measels, diptheria, and smallpox. So you
are just a liar.
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:48:14 -0500
D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300, Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it>
> wrote:
> >On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
> >
> >> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
> >>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> >>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Savard
> >>>>
> >>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jim
> >>>
> >>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
> >>> continuing income stream.
> >>
> >> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
> >
> >Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>
> Hmm, I didn't catch polio, measels, diptheria, and smallpox. So you
> are just a liar.

PDFTT

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Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 2022-07-26, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
> The fools are the ones who didn't get vaccinated. Many of them dead
> fools.

So the virus was a ... Fool Killer?

*cough*

Jim Jackson wrote:
> On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> The way I see it is the hospitals were on the verge of meltdown, we
>>> went into a series of lockdowns and got most of us vaccinated, we released
>>> the lockdowns and the hospitals didn't melt down.
>>>
>>
>> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
>> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
>> happen.
>
> God you are thick! Before people were vaccinated, many got VERY ill and
> needed ventilators and lots of hospitalisation. After Vaccination (and
> of course Covid infection) a lot less people get VERY ill and a lot less
> need hospitalisation.
>

That's not related to the vaccine. This is due to the virus evolving
into much less dangerous strains.

But don't worry, if you've had the fraudulent vaccine, you'll likely
get this particular collection of viruses over and over again until
your number comes up, assuming you don't "die suddenly".

Quadibloc wrote:
> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>
>> Vaccines are not one of them. There are certain things you cannot
>> short-circuit, and with a vaccine trial, it's time.
>
> You're half right. We haven't discovered some miracle way to make vaccine
> trials go faster with modern technology.
>
> However, my response is simple: what part of "emergency use authorization"
> don't you understand?

The EUAs were fraudulent. They are only permitted if there are no
adequate, approved, and available alternatives. But there were
alternatives, namely hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and budesonide.
However, those drugs were demonized by people who were stupid, evil,
or who just wanted to line the pockets of major pharmaceutical firms
to the tune of billions of dollars.

> If you don't *have* the time, because there aren't
> enough ventilators to go around to keep the population
> from dying like flies,

Ventilators didn't help anyone. If you went on a ventilator, odds
were very high that you would leave the hospital in a box. We knew
this from data out of Wuhan.

> then not conducting vaccine trials to the same high standards as would be
> the case for a less serious disease that is less widespread... is a rational
> course of action.
>
> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>
> John Savard

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2022-07-26, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300
>>> Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>>>
>>> <sigh> We're back to the old chestnut "100% of non-smokers die".
>
> And 100% of alcoholics started on milk.

In fact there was study long time ago that babies fed with toxic
soy-formula were more easier to develop addictions ...

> I think it was Heinlein who said, "Oxygen is a toxic, highly addictive
> gas. As little as one breath can trigger a lifelong addiction, which
> invariably ends in death."

Facts.

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Quadibloc wrote:

> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 7:28:29 PM UTC-6, Auntie Wirus wrote:
>
>> I don't need to prove the virus doesn't exist. The burden of proof was,
>> is, and remains on you who claim that a virus is ravaging humanity and
>> putting us all in mortal peril. Scaremongering is not proof.
>
> 1) Unless the mainstream media is just making things up, that burden
> has already been met.

But they are, you just don't hear it from them ... which might be obvious
:) They have scripts that are read all over the world, word to word. There
are a lot videos out there about this. Nice little compilations they are.
You should check them out, might enjoy them ...

> 2) When the fire alarm sounds in a building, it is advisable to head
> rapidly for the exit without first investigating whether it really is
> on fire. Hence, your assignment of the burden of proof is not
> rational or conducive to survival.

This has been nice little argument people who really believe everyword MSM
spits out have been using. Yet this argument only stands IF one really
believes everything MSM is spitting out.

Sure it's true in it's core, but cannot be used as analogy for certain
things.

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Quadibloc wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 12:00:40 PM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Far better
>> than trying to set them straight.
>
> I have no expectation of being able to accomplish that.
>
> Presenting counter-arguments only makes it harder for them to
> fool other people.

Which is the exact same logic people who are not agreeing with the
narrative we are pushed ... so in that sense your argument is that you are
also a troll, right?

Oh. No. I forgot that you KNOW you are right ...

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300, Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Savard
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>>> continuing income stream.
>>>
>>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>>
>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>
> Hmm, I didn't catch polio, measels, diptheria, and smallpox. So you
> are just a liar.

Just because you didn't catch the things you listed there, your logic is
that my argument "also yu are going to die" is invalid and I'm a liar?

That's one rational thinking right there. With that much emotions
involved, you must also identify as a female, right?

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2022, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:48:14 -0500
> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300, Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it>
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Savard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>>>> continuing income stream.
>>>>
>>>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>>>
>>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>>
>> Hmm, I didn't catch polio, measels, diptheria, and smallpox. So you
>> are just a liar.
>
>
> PDFTT

Obscurum per obscurius, ignotum per ignotius.

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Voice of REASON wrote:

> Jim Jackson wrote:
>> On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The way I see it is the hospitals were on the verge of meltdown, we
>>>> went into a series of lockdowns and got most of us vaccinated, we released
>>>> the lockdowns and the hospitals didn't melt down.
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
>>> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
>>> happen.
>>
>> God you are thick! Before people were vaccinated, many got VERY ill and
>> needed ventilators and lots of hospitalisation. After Vaccination (and
>> of course Covid infection) a lot less people get VERY ill and a lot less
>> need hospitalisation.
>>
>
> This is due to the virus evolving into much less dangerous strains.

So far it's not been explained to me how things that are not alive
(mayority of biologists says so, not me) can "evolve" ... even if we
believe darwinian evolution this is not making sense. And these are the
accepted "facts" of medical "science" we have ...

But ... maybe those are possible by adding some Virtual particles into the
mathematical equations to prove it's possible ... maybe it just need firm
BELIEF into the cult of science.

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