On 1/17/2024 4:53 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Physfitfreak wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 1/17/2024 8:42 AM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>>
>>>> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>>>> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>>>> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>>>
>>> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
>>> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
>>> farmers showed up. We will survive!
>>
>> Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.
>
> The cockroach will be the last macroscopic species to survive until the Sun
> becomes a red giant.
>

Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
Plenty of Earth-like planets around.

Now that I'm thinking about it, it's so funny that genetics texts avoid
the correct form of genetic diagrams only so they could not show the
appearance of cro-magnons in it...

Says a lot about science in the hands of cro-magnons.

Almost all such authors revert to the so-called "tree diagrams." In a
tree diagram there's no way of showing a new species formed by mating
two different species. So the last part of the "branch" for humans has a
Y fork, one representing the Neanderthals, and the other the homo
sapiens sapiens. No cro-magnon line in between! Very cute. Fraudulent in
fact.

The correct diagram should allow new species as a result of mating as
well, which requires rhombi (or parallelograms) that sometimes bring one
species to another to form yet a new species continuing from that point
on. But you don't see such diagrams often at all. In such a diagram, a
branch from the Neanderthal line of the Y departs it and meets a branch
that had departed from the homo sapiens sapiens line of the Y, to form
the cro-magnon species continuing from that point up; that is, your
nightmare!

And for such a diagram to be exact, it should also show the mating of
homo sapiens with neanderthals twice, the older of which representing
the first time around that cro-magnons were formed, and the line
representing them stops sometime before the last ice age. The more
recent should form right after the last ice age about 45 thousand years
back. And the line for Neanderthals of course should stop around 24
thousand years back, this time indicating their actual extinction.

Science, in many respects, are today in the wrong hands. It's place is
among the Modern Humans, not the cro-magnons. It has been quite
accidental that cro-magnons got the chance to develop it. It's a "short
term" situation.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 06:55:07 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote:

> Humans will probably survive, but civilization? It has been note that
> we’ve already extracted the minerals & fossil fuels that are accessible
> by low technology. As such, there’s the paradox that if civilization
> collapses, we’ll lack the tools to obtain the resources to be able to
> rebuild back to where we are today. This may actually be a solution to
> the “why are we alone in the galaxy?” question.

Would we want to go back to where we are today? Spengler used the term
'civilization' in a slightly different sense. Cultures were born, went
through a period of vigorous growth in their springtime, matured, and went
into a decline before becoming a footnote of history. 'Civilization' was
the end stage, an old, tired culture coasting along on its past successes.

While I am immersed in technology I tend to be a Neo-Luddite. Spengler,
Heidegger, Ellul. Linkola, Sale, Berry, Jensen, Kaczynski, and others have
made valid observations about technology. I'm not big on the bright green
environmentalist faction. They're selling bandaids rather than looking at
industrial capitalism. 'We just have to drive Teslas and build more solar
farms to keep our vacuous lifestyle afloat and our iPhose 57s charged'.

https://www.brightgreenlies.com/

You might find the book/movie interesting. It's a current statement of a
message that is more than one hundred years old.

Physfitfreak wrote:

>Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
>Plenty of Earth-like planets around.

LOL Do I need to say it? Ridiculous nonsense.

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
>>Plenty of Earth-like planets around.
>
>LOL Do I need to say it? Ridiculous nonsense.

Not exactly something we've come close, remotely, to doing, yeah.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 16:24:50 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> What will get us first? The heat or the cold?

Even NOAA and the CDC can't agree on that. NOAA says heat and the CDC says
cold.

Personally, I'll go with cold. I've spent time in the desert in southern
Arizona. As long as you have water and shade up during the hottest part of
the day you'll make it. At 20 below if you can't find shelter you're going
to die.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 10:10:56 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Yo mama's mitochondria! It don't say nothin' 'bout happy huntin'!

My mtDNA doesn't have a good Just So story. There might have been a Moor
involved but Granny wasn't talking.

https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-12-234

That's a definite tl;dr. The Readers Digest version is the Out of Africa
people went to Asia where haplogroup M emerged. They kept on traveling and
M* is the most frequent group in south, central, and east Asia.

Except for M1, that is. Somehow that shows up North Africa and Europe
where it ain't s'posed to be. The autosomal DNA in 23andMe's ancestry
report doesn't help with 99.8% European, 0.1% trace, and 0.1% who the hell
knows.

My grandmother was a Quebec convent girl with no backstory and that's how
I got interested in the DNA thing. Since the French were more 'make love
not war' with the NA population I was curious. Nope, 0% NA, so I can't be
the next Liz Warren or any of those other pretenders.

So now I've donated my DNA to the NSA, FBI, CIA, and who knows what else.
At this point in life I don't care.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 10:19:42 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:

> I'm reluctant to believe that the people whose only skill seems to be to
> record their stupid faces making idiotic comments on TikTok will manage
> to even get out of their homes if an ice age happens. Once they begin to
> starve, they are likely to become someone else's sex slave if they look
> good enough though.

Google isn't my friend today but I would love to find a TV show made
during the global cooling scare. About all I remember is a suburban family
losing their shit as a glacier crept across the backyard.

The trouble with living more than seven decades is you've seen too many
cycles of 'science' swaying back and forth. Yes, that's how science is
supposed to work but the pop press Chicken Little's climb on every vague
statement.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 15:47:05 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

> Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.

Those gracile little 'modern' humans will die in droves.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 18:08:15 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

> Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
> Plenty of Earth-like planets around.

They missed the last bus out of Heaven's Gate.

On 1/17/2024 8:21 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 18:08:15 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
>> Plenty of Earth-like planets around.
>
> They missed the last bus out of Heaven's Gate.

That's "cro-magnons" for you :)

Ask Rabid, he may have been a member.

On 1/17/2024 7:48 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 15:47:05 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.
>
> Those gracile little 'modern' humans will die in droves.

Cro-magnons' demise will either be slow and eventual, or sudden. If you
hadn't stopped Hitler for instance, by now, not a single cro-magnon
would be living on the face of the Earth.

Don't take too much of what you see, for granted.

Read my blog for more.

Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 1/17/2024 7:48 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 15:47:05 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>>> Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.
>>
>> Those gracile little 'modern' humans will die in droves.
>
>Cro-magnons' demise will either be slow and eventual, or sudden. If you
>hadn't stopped Hitler for instance, by now, not a single cro-magnon
>would be living on the face of the Earth.
>
>Don't take too much of what you see, for granted.
>
>Read my blog for more.

Who says they did stop Hitler? They stopped him as Hitler, but he's
right back as Donald J. Trump, and likely to take power again in a
year.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 1/17/2024 6:37 PM, Joel wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>>> Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
>>> Plenty of Earth-like planets around.
>>
>> LOL Do I need to say it? Ridiculous nonsense.
>
>
> Not exactly something we've come close, remotely, to doing, yeah.
>

We won't be in this form, on that day :)

The way humans are today is just ridiculous. Very fragile and dependent
on other life forms. Horrible limits in fact. We can't live outside of
at most 200 degree F of temperature interval. We're goners in this form.

We will be AIs. Immensely more capable and more lasting, We'll get
there, but not in this form.

On 1/17/2024 8:58 PM, Joel wrote:
> Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 1/17/2024 7:48 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 15:47:05 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.
>>>
>>> Those gracile little 'modern' humans will die in droves.
>>
>> Cro-magnons' demise will either be slow and eventual, or sudden. If you
>> hadn't stopped Hitler for instance, by now, not a single cro-magnon
>> would be living on the face of the Earth.
>>
>> Don't take too much of what you see, for granted.
>>
>> Read my blog for more.
>
>
> Who says they did stop Hitler? They stopped him as Hitler, but he's
> right back as Donald J. Trump, and likely to take power again in a
> year.
>

One of my sisters in Iran would be very glad :) She's a fan of Trump, of
all the people.

What do you know ... :)

On 1/17/2024 9:01 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 1/17/2024 6:37 PM, Joel wrote:
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
>>>> Plenty of Earth-like planets around.
>>>
>>> LOL   Do I need to say it?  Ridiculous nonsense.
>>
>>
>> Not exactly something we've come close, remotely, to doing, yeah.
>>
>
>
> We won't be in this form, on that day :)
>
> The way humans are today is just ridiculous. Very fragile and dependent
> on other life forms. Horrible limits in fact. We can't live outside of
> at most 200 degree F of temperature interval. We're goners in this form.
>
> We will be AIs. Immensely more capable and more lasting, We'll get
> there, but not in this form.

Watch that Disney movie that came out about 20 years back. I think its
name was Wall-E or something. It was an AI built to take garbage and
store them at designated dumps in an orderly manner. But something
happens to humans and they go extinct on this planet. But this AI, keeps
living its life, collecting garbage for 700 years, renewing its energy
from the Sun. Then...

Just see the movie. It may have been created for children, but messages
for the adults are all over this movie.

On 1/17/2024 7:35 PM, shitv wrote:
> Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
>> Plenty of Earth-like planets around.
>
> LOL Do I need to say it? Ridiculous nonsense.

The sand chimp is very likely correct (that there are plenty of
Earth-like planets). Getting a taxi ride to them is another matter.

On 2024-01-17, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
> On 2024-01-16 8:40 p.m., Tyrone wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 2024 at 7:21:39 PM EST, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>>>>
>>>>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>>>>
>>>> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
>>>> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
>>>> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
>>>> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
>>>> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>>>>
>>>> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!
>>>
>>> You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?
>>>
>>> https://parkedphoton.com/anova-and-global-warming/
>>>
>>> This article isn't really proof of global warming. An analysis of variance
>>> simply means that increased variability is due to some "new" factor. Hence the
>>> seeming screwiness of weather lately.
>>
>> <sigh>
>>
>> There is really no mathmetical proof needed that the Earth is warming. It has
>> BEEN warming for the last 18,000 years or so. That's when the most recent
>> glacial period ended.
>>
>> Therefore, it is clearly not man made. It started 18,000 years ago. How did
>> this happen when there were no humans at that time? No oil companies. No one
>> burning coal to produce electricity.
>
> Cow farts!

I guess we were fortunate that those millions upon millions of bison on the
plains of America never farted. Because, if they had farted, obviously the
Bahamas would have been drowned by global warming and Christopher Columbus
would have never found America.

"Cow farts cause global warming." It doesn't get any more stupid than that.

>> The fact is, the current warming period DID start around 18,000 years ago. It
>> is also not as warm now as it was 125,000 years ago, during the previous
>> inter-glacial warming period. We may be contributing to it in a very minor
>> percentage right now, but the fact is all of this happens without humans.
>>
>> The point is, this is a natural phenomenon. It has happened multiple times in
>> the last million years. In fact, the natural state of Earth over the last few
>> million years IS glaciation. The inter-glacial warming periods are relatively
>> short - lasting around 20,000 years - and around 125,000 years apart.
>>
>> So basically there are 125,000 years of cold, glaciers and sea levels 400 feet
>> lower than today. Then it warms up for 20,000 years, glaciers melt and sea
>> levels rise to what we see now. Sea levels can be (and have been) higher in
>> past inter-glacial warming periods.
>>
>> Given that the current warming period started about 18,000 years ago and the
>> average warming period lasts around 20,000 years, we have around 2000 years or
>> so before glaciers return for another 125,000 year "ice age".
>>
>> All of this info is in the geologic record. These are accepted facts, which
>> can be easily researched. But these facts are conveniently unknown/ignored by
>> the "climate crisis" brigade.
>>
>> The true "denial" in global warming is denying that it is a natural
>> phenomenon. It is NOT man made. Anyone talking about "man made climate change"
>> is either ignorant of the facts or is deliberately lying to suit a political
>> agenda.
>
> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.

The way things are going I don't know that we'll make it to the next ice
age.

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

On 2024-01-18, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 10:19:42 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> I'm reluctant to believe that the people whose only skill seems to be to
>> record their stupid faces making idiotic comments on TikTok will manage
>> to even get out of their homes if an ice age happens. Once they begin to
>> starve, they are likely to become someone else's sex slave if they look
>> good enough though.
>
> Google isn't my friend today but I would love to find a TV show made
> during the global cooling scare. About all I remember is a suburban family
> losing their shit as a glacier crept across the backyard.
>
> The trouble with living more than seven decades is you've seen too many
> cycles of 'science' swaying back and forth. Yes, that's how science is
> supposed to work but the pop press Chicken Little's climb on every vague
> statement.

At one point "scientists" (so-called) were trying to figure how to put a
giant black tarp over Greenland (or the Arctic?) so they could melt the ice
and save us from global cooling. At least one of those "scientists"
immediately jumped on to the global warming bandwagon when "global cooling"
turned out to be a dud.

If these "scientists" can believe cow farts will cause global warming, what
won't they believe?

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

On 2024-01-18, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 16:24:50 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> What will get us first? The heat or the cold?
>
> Even NOAA and the CDC can't agree on that. NOAA says heat and the CDC says
> cold.
>
> Personally, I'll go with cold. I've spent time in the desert in southern
> Arizona. As long as you have water and shade up during the hottest part of
> the day you'll make it. At 20 below if you can't find shelter you're going
> to die.

Yep. And if it gets a degree or two hotter on the equator, then that means
it will get hotter further north also, maybe making land that couldn't be
farmed, farm-able. Win-win for Canada and Siberia.

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

On 2024-01-17, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Physfitfreak wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 1/17/2024 8:42 AM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>>
>>>> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>>>> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>>>> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>>>
>>> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
>>> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
>>> farmers showed up. We will survive!
>>
>> Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.
>
> The cockroach will be the last macroscopic species to survive until the Sun
> becomes a red giant.

You think Biden will last that long?

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-01-17, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> Physfitfreak wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 1/17/2024 8:42 AM, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>>>>> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>>>>> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>>>>
>>>> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
>>>> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
>>>> farmers showed up. We will survive!
>>>
>>> Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.
>>
>> The cockroach will be the last macroscopic species to survive until the Sun
>> becomes a red giant.
>
> You think Biden will last that long?

About as long as Trump. Although Trump's White House doctor said he could live
to be 200. Man. Woman. Person. Dog. TV.

Not enamored of octegenarians in the White House or Congress.

Our "system" has been circling the drain for a few decades. "For the People"
:-D

https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2023/07/23?comments=visible#comments

"Democracy Man!"

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You will engage in a profitable business activity.

RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-01-18, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 16:24:50 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> What will get us first? The heat or the cold?
>>
>> Even NOAA and the CDC can't agree on that. NOAA says heat and the CDC says
>> cold.
>>
>> Personally, I'll go with cold. I've spent time in the desert in southern
>> Arizona. As long as you have water and shade up during the hottest part of
>> the day you'll make it. At 20 below if you can't find shelter you're going
>> to die.

"As long as you have water".

> Yep. And if it gets a degree or two hotter on the equator, then that means
> it will get hotter further north also, maybe making land that couldn't be
> farmed, farm-able. Win-win for Canada and Siberia.

Hmmm, an awful lot of methane locked up in permafrost....

Funny:

https://phys.org/news/2023-09-beaver-arctic-linked-emission-methane.html

Beaver activity in the Arctic linked to increased emission of methane
greenhouse gas

They be qweffing.

--
Q: How was Thomas J. Watson buried?
A: 9 edge down.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 10:10:56 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Yo mama's mitochondria! It don't say nothin' 'bout happy huntin'!
>
> My mtDNA doesn't have a good Just So story. There might have been a Moor
> involved but Granny wasn't talking.
>
> https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-12-234
>
> That's a definite tl;dr. The Readers Digest version is the Out of Africa
> people went to Asia where haplogroup M emerged. They kept on traveling and
> M* is the most frequent group in south, central, and east Asia.
>
> Except for M1, that is. Somehow that shows up North Africa and Europe
> where it ain't s'posed to be. The autosomal DNA in 23andMe's ancestry
> report doesn't help with 99.8% European, 0.1% trace, and 0.1% who the hell
> knows.
>
> My grandmother was a Quebec convent girl with no backstory and that's how
> I got interested in the DNA thing. Since the French were more 'make love
> not war' with the NA population I was curious. Nope, 0% NA, so I can't be
> the next Liz Warren or any of those other pretenders.
>
> So now I've donated my DNA to the NSA, FBI, CIA, and who knows what else.
> At this point in life I don't care.

The Simpson's:

"If you've ever handled a penny the government's got your DNA."

--
Don't look now, but the man in the moon is laughing at you.

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 4:24:54 PM UTC-5, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> -hh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> > On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:43:00 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
> >>
> >> > One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
> >> > scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
> >> > to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
> >>
> >> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
> >> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
> >> farmers showed up. We will survive!
> >
> > <Reformatted>
> >
> > Humans will probably survive, but civilization? It has been note that we’ve
> > already extracted the minerals & fossil fuels that are accessible by low
> > technology. As such, there’s the paradox that if civilization collapses,
> > we’ll lack the tools to obtain the resources to be able to rebuild back to
> > where we are today. This may actually be a solution to the “why are we alone
> > in the galaxy?” question.
>
> What will get us first? The heat or the cold?

Both.

With global warming, the equatorial regions are becoming less habitable, which
will trigger mass migration and create conflict (war).

Likewise, the same warming destabilizes the polar regions leading to the 'escape'
of its coldest conditions - - that's the source of the polar vortex currently over the USA.
As such, regions further north will become less habitable too, which will also trigger
migrations and create conflict.

As conflict "destroys stuff" we'll be less capable of maintaining what we have now.

-hh

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:29:35 PM UTC-5, DFS wrote:
> On 1/17/2024 7:35 PM, shitv wrote:
> > Physfitfreak wrote:
> >
> >> Way before that happens, Modern Human of the time will go elsewhere.
> >> Plenty of Earth-like planets around.
> >
> > LOL Do I need to say it? Ridiculous nonsense.
>
> The sand chimp is very likely correct (that there are plenty of
> Earth-like planets). Getting a taxi ride to them is another matter.

Indeed, for the distances are simply too far, even at 0.01 light. As such,
there may be ways to save the species, but not anyone born on Earth.

Case in point, last fall, the NASA Parker Solar Probe broke the record for
fastest human-made object ever recorded while doing gravity slingshots
between Venus and the Sun. It reached a "blistering" 394,736 mph ...

....but that's just 0.0006 light speed

If we could apply that peak velocity to go to Proxima Centauri, the closest star
system to Earth (4.25 Light-Years), it would take 4.25/0.0006 = 7,083 years.

-hh