https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0

Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D

--
Do not overtax your powers.

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>
> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D

He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
that's real temperature, not wind chill.

I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.

Go Global Warming! Go! Go!

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>
>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>
> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>
> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>
> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!

You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?

https://parkedphoton.com/anova-and-global-warming/

This article isn't really proof of global warming. An analysis of variance
simply means that increased variability is due to some "new" factor. Hence the
seeming screwiness of weather lately.

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You work very hard. Don't try to think as well.

On Jan 16, 2024 at 7:21:39 PM EST, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
wrote:

> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>>
>>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>>
>> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
>> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
>> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>>
>> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
>> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
>> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>>
>> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!
>
> You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?
>
> https://parkedphoton.com/anova-and-global-warming/
>
> This article isn't really proof of global warming. An analysis of variance
> simply means that increased variability is due to some "new" factor. Hence the
> seeming screwiness of weather lately.

<sigh>

There is really no mathmetical proof needed that the Earth is warming. It has
BEEN warming for the last 18,000 years or so. That's when the most recent
glacial period ended.

Therefore, it is clearly not man made. It started 18,000 years ago. How did
this happen when there were no humans at that time? No oil companies. No one
burning coal to produce electricity.

The fact is, the current warming period DID start around 18,000 years ago. It
is also not as warm now as it was 125,000 years ago, during the previous
inter-glacial warming period. We may be contributing to it in a very minor
percentage right now, but the fact is all of this happens without humans.

The point is, this is a natural phenomenon. It has happened multiple times in
the last million years. In fact, the natural state of Earth over the last few
million years IS glaciation. The inter-glacial warming periods are relatively
short - lasting around 20,000 years - and around 125,000 years apart.

So basically there are 125,000 years of cold, glaciers and sea levels 400 feet
lower than today. Then it warms up for 20,000 years, glaciers melt and sea
levels rise to what we see now. Sea levels can be (and have been) higher in
past inter-glacial warming periods.

Given that the current warming period started about 18,000 years ago and the
average warming period lasts around 20,000 years, we have around 2000 years or
so before glaciers return for another 125,000 year "ice age".

All of this info is in the geologic record. These are accepted facts, which
can be easily researched. But these facts are conveniently unknown/ignored by
the "climate crisis" brigade.

The true "denial" in global warming is denying that it is a natural
phenomenon. It is NOT man made. Anyone talking about "man made climate change"
is either ignorant of the facts or is deliberately lying to suit a political
agenda.

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 19:21:39 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?

Yes, and I also know it comes and goes. Greenland may have even been green
during the optima. I live on the bottom of a 1200' deep lake. Luckily it
blew out an ice dam about 13,000 years ago and remodeled eastern
Washington.

Based on previous environmental fiascoes I believe humans will fuck up
completely with all the best of intentions.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 01:40:06 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

> There is really no mathmetical proof needed that the Earth is warming.
> It has BEEN warming for the last 18,000 years or so. That's when the
> most recent glacial period ended.

There were a few blips.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

On 1/16/2024 4:51 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>
>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>
> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>
> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>
> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!

It's 18F here already, just outside Apelanta. Going down to 14F.

Our kitty is in right now, but he'll probably go out for a while. He
likes the cold.

On 1/16/2024 8:40 PM, Tyrone wrote:
> On Jan 16, 2024 at 7:21:39 PM EST, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
> wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>>>
>>>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>>>
>>> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
>>> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
>>> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
>>> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
>>> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>>>
>>> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!
>>
>> You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?
>>
>> https://parkedphoton.com/anova-and-global-warming/
>>
>> This article isn't really proof of global warming. An analysis of variance
>> simply means that increased variability is due to some "new" factor. Hence the
>> seeming screwiness of weather lately.
>
> <sigh>
>
> There is really no mathmetical proof needed that the Earth is warming. It has
> BEEN warming for the last 18,000 years or so. That's when the most recent
> glacial period ended.
>
> Therefore, it is clearly not man made. It started 18,000 years ago. How did
> this happen when there were no humans at that time? No oil companies. No one
> burning coal to produce electricity.
>
> The fact is, the current warming period DID start around 18,000 years ago. It
> is also not as warm now as it was 125,000 years ago, during the previous
> inter-glacial warming period. We may be contributing to it in a very minor
> percentage right now, but the fact is all of this happens without humans.
>
> The point is, this is a natural phenomenon. It has happened multiple times in
> the last million years. In fact, the natural state of Earth over the last few
> million years IS glaciation. The inter-glacial warming periods are relatively
> short - lasting around 20,000 years - and around 125,000 years apart.
>
> So basically there are 125,000 years of cold, glaciers and sea levels 400 feet
> lower than today. Then it warms up for 20,000 years, glaciers melt and sea
> levels rise to what we see now. Sea levels can be (and have been) higher in
> past inter-glacial warming periods.
>
> Given that the current warming period started about 18,000 years ago and the
> average warming period lasts around 20,000 years, we have around 2000 years or
> so before glaciers return for another 125,000 year "ice age".
>
> All of this info is in the geologic record. These are accepted facts, which
> can be easily researched. But these facts are conveniently unknown/ignored by
> the "climate crisis" brigade.
>
> The true "denial" in global warming is denying that it is a natural
> phenomenon. It is NOT man made. Anyone talking about "man made climate change"
> is either ignorant of the facts or is deliberately lying to suit a political
> agenda.

The excessive warming, increased frequency of extreme weather events and
incredibly fast melting of glaciers we're experiencing now and in the
near future ARE man-made (or at least man-exacerbated). 100%.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

This is not political - this is science.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>The excessive warming, increased frequency of extreme weather events and
>incredibly fast melting of glaciers we're experiencing now and in the
>near future ARE man-made (or at least man-exacerbated). 100%.
>
>https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
>
>This is not political - this is science.

This is why I like you, despite your faults with racism and bias
against Linux. You are not some follower of Trump or any ridiculous
lying piece of swine. You're your own man. I dig that.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-01-16, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>
>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>
> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>
> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>
> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!

If We Had Some Global Warming

https://rumble.com/v1qcu47-if-we-had-some-global-warming.html

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

On 2024-01-17, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>>
>>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>>
>> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
>> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
>> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>>
>> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
>> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
>> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>>
>> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!
>
> You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?
>
> https://parkedphoton.com/anova-and-global-warming/
>
> This article isn't really proof of global warming. An analysis of variance
> simply means that increased variability is due to some "new" factor. Hence the
> seeming screwiness of weather lately.

They call it "global warming" in the summer and "climate change" in the
winter. Wonder why?

I Love CO2...

https://rumble.com/v1qeod7-the-carbon-dioxide-song-by-minnesotans-for-global-warming.html

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

Tyrone wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Jan 16, 2024 at 7:21:39 PM EST, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
> wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>>>
>>>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>>>
>>> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
>>> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
>>> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
>>> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
>>> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>>>
>>> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!
>>
>> You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?
>>
>> https://parkedphoton.com/anova-and-global-warming/
>>
>> This article isn't really proof of global warming. An analysis of variance
>> simply means that increased variability is due to some "new" factor. Hence the
>> seeming screwiness of weather lately.
>
> <sigh>
>
> There is really no mathmetical proof needed that the Earth is warming. It has
> BEEN warming for the last 18,000 years or so. That's when the most recent
> glacial period ended.
>
> Therefore, it is clearly not man made. It started 18,000 years ago. How did
> this happen when there were no humans at that time? No oil companies. No one
> burning coal to produce electricity.
>
> The fact is, the current warming period DID start around 18,000 years ago. It
> is also not as warm now as it was 125,000 years ago, during the previous
> inter-glacial warming period. We may be contributing to it in a very minor
> percentage right now, but the fact is all of this happens without humans.
>
> The point is, this is a natural phenomenon. It has happened multiple times in
> the last million years. In fact, the natural state of Earth over the last few
> million years IS glaciation. The inter-glacial warming periods are relatively
> short - lasting around 20,000 years - and around 125,000 years apart.
>
> So basically there are 125,000 years of cold, glaciers and sea levels 400 feet
> lower than today. Then it warms up for 20,000 years, glaciers melt and sea
> levels rise to what we see now. Sea levels can be (and have been) higher in
> past inter-glacial warming periods.
>
> Given that the current warming period started about 18,000 years ago and the
> average warming period lasts around 20,000 years, we have around 2000 years or
> so before glaciers return for another 125,000 year "ice age".
>
> All of this info is in the geologic record. These are accepted facts, which
> can be easily researched. But these facts are conveniently unknown/ignored by
> the "climate crisis" brigade.
>
> The true "denial" in global warming is denying that it is a natural
> phenomenon. It is NOT man made. Anyone talking about "man made climate change"
> is either ignorant of the facts or is deliberately lying to suit a political
> agenda.

The graph showing the upward trend is a hockey-stick; it tilts upward in recent
decades. The point is that we are accelerating warming at a rate never seen
before. Species don't have time to adapt. Cultures, especially those in the
margins, don't have the time, resources, or will to adapt. It's the "short
term" effects that matter.

Your long list of rejoinders are irrelevant and your conclusion is wrong.
Obviously long-term data is irrelevant to near-term data.

At least you didn't try to say that global warming is disproved by rich people
still moving to homes on the seacoast :-D

--
Your reasoning powers are good, and you are a fairly good planner.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 01:40:06 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>
>> There is really no mathmetical proof needed that the Earth is warming.
>> It has BEEN warming for the last 18,000 years or so. That's when the
>> most recent glacial period ended.
>
> There were a few blips.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

And the hockey stick. Look at the graph at that link.

--
You have an unusual equipment for success. Be sure to use it properly.

Tyrone wrote:

>The true "denial" in global warming is denying that it is a natural
>phenomenon. It is NOT man made. Anyone talking about "man made climate change"
>is either ignorant of the facts or is deliberately lying to suit a political
>agenda.

Either way, there's nothing that "the west" can do about it, with
China and India building coal-burning plants as fast as they are able.

Why the fsck should we cripple our power grid, and take on the costs?

So China has a weak opponent, when they decide to take back Taiwan?

Good luck getting your chips (and everything that uses them) then,
folks! Our standard of living will come crashing down, and for what
gain?

On 2024-01-16 8:40 p.m., Tyrone wrote:
> On Jan 16, 2024 at 7:21:39 PM EST, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
> wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
>>>>
>>>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
>>>
>>> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
>>> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
>>> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
>>> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
>>> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
>>>
>>> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!
>>
>> You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?
>>
>> https://parkedphoton.com/anova-and-global-warming/
>>
>> This article isn't really proof of global warming. An analysis of variance
>> simply means that increased variability is due to some "new" factor. Hence the
>> seeming screwiness of weather lately.
>
> <sigh>
>
> There is really no mathmetical proof needed that the Earth is warming. It has
> BEEN warming for the last 18,000 years or so. That's when the most recent
> glacial period ended.
>
> Therefore, it is clearly not man made. It started 18,000 years ago. How did
> this happen when there were no humans at that time? No oil companies. No one
> burning coal to produce electricity.

Cow farts!

> The fact is, the current warming period DID start around 18,000 years ago. It
> is also not as warm now as it was 125,000 years ago, during the previous
> inter-glacial warming period. We may be contributing to it in a very minor
> percentage right now, but the fact is all of this happens without humans.
>
> The point is, this is a natural phenomenon. It has happened multiple times in
> the last million years. In fact, the natural state of Earth over the last few
> million years IS glaciation. The inter-glacial warming periods are relatively
> short - lasting around 20,000 years - and around 125,000 years apart.
>
> So basically there are 125,000 years of cold, glaciers and sea levels 400 feet
> lower than today. Then it warms up for 20,000 years, glaciers melt and sea
> levels rise to what we see now. Sea levels can be (and have been) higher in
> past inter-glacial warming periods.
>
> Given that the current warming period started about 18,000 years ago and the
> average warming period lasts around 20,000 years, we have around 2000 years or
> so before glaciers return for another 125,000 year "ice age".
>
> All of this info is in the geologic record. These are accepted facts, which
> can be easily researched. But these facts are conveniently unknown/ignored by
> the "climate crisis" brigade.
>
> The true "denial" in global warming is denying that it is a natural
> phenomenon. It is NOT man made. Anyone talking about "man made climate change"
> is either ignorant of the facts or is deliberately lying to suit a political
> agenda.

One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.

--
RabidPedagog
Catholic paleoconservative

On 1/17/2024 12:33 AM, Relf wrote:
> You (DFS) replied ( to rBowman ):
>>> 3° F at 2:43pm, the first time it has been above zero since Thursday.
>>> The low for the period was -22° F.
>>
>> It's 18° F here already, just outside Apelanta. Going down to 14° F.
>
> 34° F low tonight, some rain & a hint of snow, no accumulation.
> 41° F high tomorrow.
> Next Tuesday: 53° high, 45° low, afternoon showers.

I need those kind of temps here to finish some exterior caulking work.

> " John Wick Goes to Heaven ":
> YouTube.COM/shorts/fUJ28GwnXjs

Killing someone that kills your innocent dog should definitely be
justifiable homicide.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:

> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253

According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
farmers showed up. We will survive!

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:43:00 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
> > One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
> > scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
> > to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>
> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
> farmers showed up. We will survive!

Humans will probably survive, but civilization? It has been note that we’ve already
extracted the minerals & fossil fuels that are accessible by low technology.. As such,
there’s the paradox that if civilization collapses, we’ll lack the tools to obtain the
resources to be able to rebuild back to where we are today. This may actually be a
solution to the “why are we alone in the galaxy?” question.

-hh

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>
> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
> farmers showed up. We will survive!

Yo mama's mitochondria! It don't say nothin' 'bout happy huntin'!

https://www.ancestry.com/offers/freetrial

--
Today is what happened to yesterday.

On 2024-01-17 9:42 a.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>
> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
> farmers showed up. We will survive!

I'm reluctant to believe that the people whose only skill seems to be to
record their stupid faces making idiotic comments on TikTok will manage
to even get out of their homes if an ice age happens. Once they begin to
starve, they are likely to become someone else's sex slave if they look
good enough though.

--
RabidPedagog
Catholic paleoconservative

-hh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:43:00 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>> > One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>> > scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>> > to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>>
>> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
>> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
>> farmers showed up. We will survive!
>
> <Reformatted>
>
> Humans will probably survive, but civilization? It has been note that we’ve
> already extracted the minerals & fossil fuels that are accessible by low
> technology. As such, there’s the paradox that if civilization collapses,
> we’ll lack the tools to obtain the resources to be able to rebuild back to
> where we are today. This may actually be a solution to the “why are we alone
> in the galaxy?” question.

What will get us first? The heat or the cold?

I should reread "Last and First Men" by Olaf Stapledon.

--
When you are about to die, a wombat is better than no company at all.
-- Roger Zelazny, "Doorways in the Sand"

RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-01-17 9:42 a.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>>> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>>> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>>> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>>
>> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
>> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
>> farmers showed up. We will survive!
>
> I'm reluctant to believe that the people whose only skill seems to be to
> record their stupid faces making idiotic comments on TikTok will manage
> to even get out of their homes if an ice age happens. Once they begin to
> starve, they are likely to become someone else's sex slave if they look
> good enough though.

(This guy's a real barrel of laughs :-*)

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On 1/17/2024 8:42 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>
> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
> farmers showed up. We will survive!

Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.

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> On 1/17/2024 8:42 AM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:58:46 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>>> One has to wonder whether the coming ice age will erase all of man's
>>> scientific progress from the face of the Earth and return all survivors
>>> to the Stone Age or if we will manage quite well through it.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253
>>
>> According the the genetics Just So stories, my ancestors chased the
>> glaciers north, hunting and gathering. We were quite happy before the damn
>> farmers showed up. We will survive!
>
> Modern Human will. Cro-magnons will not see the next ice age.

The cockroach will be the last macroscopic species to survive until the Sun
becomes a red giant.

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On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 06:25:25 UTC+1, DFS wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 8:40 PM, Tyrone wrote:
> > On Jan 16, 2024 at 7:21:39 PM EST, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFee...@teleworm.us>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 11:29:37 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-es-kPaxj0
> >>>>
> >>>> Old report. But still need your Burlington Coat Factory coat today. :-D
> >>>
> >>> He wouldn't last long here. It is up to 3 F at 14:43, the first time it
> >>> has been above zero since Thursday. The low for the period was -22 F and
> >>> that's real temperature, not wind chill.
> >>>
> >>> I haven't seen the cat since Wednesday. She's semi-feral and won't come in
> >>> the house so I hope she found a warm crawl space to hole up. Even the lgbs
> >>> haven't been at the bird feeder. No idea where they go.
> >>>
> >>> Go Global Warming! Go! Go!
> >>
> >> You do realize that global warming is an average, don't you?
> >>
> >> https://parkedphoton.com/anova-and-global-warming/
> >>
> >> This article isn't really proof of global warming. An analysis of variance
> >> simply means that increased variability is due to some "new" factor. Hence the
> >> seeming screwiness of weather lately.
> >
> > <sigh>
> >
> > There is really no mathmetical proof needed that the Earth is warming. It has
> > BEEN warming for the last 18,000 years or so. That's when the most recent
> > glacial period ended.
> >
> > Therefore, it is clearly not man made. It started 18,000 years ago. How did
> > this happen when there were no humans at that time? No oil companies. No one
> > burning coal to produce electricity.
> >
> > The fact is, the current warming period DID start around 18,000 years ago. It
> > is also not as warm now as it was 125,000 years ago, during the previous
> > inter-glacial warming period. We may be contributing to it in a very minor
> > percentage right now, but the fact is all of this happens without humans.
> >
> > The point is, this is a natural phenomenon. It has happened multiple times in
> > the last million years. In fact, the natural state of Earth over the last few
> > million years IS glaciation. The inter-glacial warming periods are relatively
> > short - lasting around 20,000 years - and around 125,000 years apart.
> >
> > So basically there are 125,000 years of cold, glaciers and sea levels 400 feet
> > lower than today. Then it warms up for 20,000 years, glaciers melt and sea
> > levels rise to what we see now. Sea levels can be (and have been) higher in
> > past inter-glacial warming periods.
> >
> > Given that the current warming period started about 18,000 years ago and the
> > average warming period lasts around 20,000 years, we have around 2000 years or
> > so before glaciers return for another 125,000 year "ice age".
> >
> > All of this info is in the geologic record. These are accepted facts, which
> > can be easily researched. But these facts are conveniently unknown/ignored by
> > the "climate crisis" brigade.
> >
> > The true "denial" in global warming is denying that it is a natural
> > phenomenon. It is NOT man made. Anyone talking about "man made climate change"
> > is either ignorant of the facts or is deliberately lying to suit a political
> > agenda.
> The excessive warming, increased frequency of extreme weather events and
> incredibly fast melting of glaciers we're experiencing now and in the
> near future ARE man-made (or at least man-exacerbated). 100%.
>
> https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
>
> This is not political - this is science.

All variations are "science". But there's no crisis, the graphs are consistent and climate varies. The hockey stick was a lie. Greta's an idiot. And the Pacific islands are not drowning.

NASA bought. They've been moving the goalposts. They need the grants.

https://youtu.be/bvpyUEfo6jQ?si=umKi_S0urGZ1urrv