> Paul began these rules back almost a year ago when I was carrying FsX,
egardi
> political/religion conversations because of all the talk about Trump. It's
n > resting this is still going on.

Yes and, if you remember, a lot of baiting was being done by persons who
don't live in North America (and, if you ask them, usually don't want to
tell you anything about what is going on in their country).

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Re: Testing the waters
By: Dumas Walker to MICKEY on Mon Dec 05 2022 04:58 pm

> > Paul began these rules back almost a year ago when I was carrying FsX,
> egardi
> > political/religion conversations because of all the talk about Trump.
> > It's
> n
> > resting this is still going on.
>
> Yes and, if you remember, a lot of baiting was being done by persons who
> don't live in North America (and, if you ask them, usually don't want to
> tell you anything about what is going on in their country).
>
>

those people are jealous of america because they don't have the amount of freedom that we have.

look at what went on in nz and canada and australia.
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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Dec 05 2022 12:34 pm

> there's a guy right now that started a political conversation and said no po
>
> https://vert.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=fsx_gen&thread=98732
>
> and then it just degerates into stupid banter.

Spectre agreed with him, so clearly they are right and discussion about taxes
is not political.

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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: Arelor to MRO on Tue Dec 06 2022 01:05 pm

>
> > and then it just degerates into stupid banter.
>
> Spectre agreed with him, so clearly they are right and discussion about
> taxes is not political.
>

yeah but who creates taxes and writes tax bills? politicians.
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> > Yes and, if you remember, a lot of baiting was being done by persons who
> > don't live in North America (and, if you ask them, usually don't want to
> > tell you anything about what is going on in their country).

> those people are jealous of america because they don't have the amount of
ree
> m that we have.

Exactly.

> look at what went on in nz and canada and australia.

Yes, and also note some of the things our government (federal and states)
tried.

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Re: Testing the waters
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Dec 07 2022 04:18 pm

>
> > look at what went on in nz and canada and australia.
>
> Yes, and also note some of the things our government (federal and states)
> tried.
>

they can TRY, but americans won't be put in concentration camps like in other countries. eventually the american spirit will show up.
even the far left will snap out of it.

They tried to see how far they could push us. part of what happened with the pandemic was it provided them with an opportunity to experiment and see how we reacted.
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> They tried to see how far they could push us. part of what happened with the
> ndemic was it provided them with an opportunity to experiment and see how we

> cted.

I agree with this totally. I think a lot of states are still experimenting
with what else they can try beyond pandemic measures (see Oregon and their
recent restrictive gun law).

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-=> MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

MR> Re: Testing the waters
MR> By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Dec 07 2022 04:18 pm

>
> > look at what went on in nz and canada and australia.
>
> Yes, and also note some of the things our government (federal and states)
> tried.
>

MR> they can TRY, but americans won't be put in concentration camps like in
MR> other countries. eventually the american spirit will show up. even the
MR> far left will snap out of it.

MR> They tried to see how far they could push us. part of what happened
MR> with the pandemic was it provided them with an opportunity to
MR> experiment and see how we reacted. ---

America is almost a fascist country now. You have the corporate world and the
government working together to control the population. Look at how Big Tech
has been censoring Conservatives to swing the election, and they have close
ties with the Democrats.

I think its too late now for the USA. People won't "snap out" of it, you've
already gone too far. The totalitarian state is already in place.
Conservatives lost the culture war. They were too busy fighting for the rights
of their enemies and screwing the working class over.

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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: Boraxman to MRO on Fri Dec 09 2022 08:12 pm

>
> America is almost a fascist country now. You have the corporate world and
> the government working together to control the population. Look at how Big
> Tech has been censoring Conservatives to swing the election, and they have
> close ties with the Democrats.
>
> I think its too late now for the USA. People won't "snap out" of it, you've
> already gone too far. The totalitarian state is already in place.
> Conservatives lost the culture war. They were too busy fighting for the
> rights of their enemies and screwing the working class over.

there's certainly a fight to be had, but americans are not like any other people. all of us have the american spirit deep down.

things got out of control, but we went through some crazy times in the past 2+ years. for everything, there is an equal and opposite reaction. that's how trump got elected. obama divided the country and threw us into a recession around 2008. people got sick of that shit and that's how trump got in. all trump had to do was troll his way into the presidency and he destroyed everyone.

right now pedophiles and mentally ill people are trying to take over the country. but it only appears that it's right now. they've been working on it for a very long time. i saw it myself with my gf's daughter in middle school.

like i said, for everything there is an equal and opposite reaction. people are sick of this stuff. even a worm will turn.

we have a man with dementia as president right now. he's a puppet. he has very little true support. for him to get elected again there will have to be serious organized voter fraud, not just the individuals trying to accomplish it like last time.
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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: MRO to Boraxman on Fri Dec 09 2022 09:25 am

MR> obama divided the country and threw us into
MR> a recession around 2008.

The recession was already starting to happen before Obama took office. I remember hearing about it soon before George W Bush was about to leave office, and there was an interview with him where he said "Why did this have to happen on my watch?"

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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Dec 09 2022 08:55 am

> Re: Re: Testing the waters
> By: MRO to Boraxman on Fri Dec 09 2022 09:25 am
>
> MR> obama divided the country and threw us into
> MR> a recession around 2008.
>
> The recession was already starting to happen before Obama took office. I

He could have had a plan to handle what was going to happen. It was obvious shit was going to hit the fan. he certainly didn't really have any financial sense or goals to improve our economy.

he asked what magic wand trump had when trump said he was going to bring jobs back to the usa (and he did).

then of course they said trump's success was because of the previous president.
same old bullshit games the politicians play with us.

by the way, i voted for obama. he didn't meet any of his promises.
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> The recession was already starting to happen before Obama took office. I
eme
> er hearing about it soon before George W Bush was about to leave office, and

> re was an interview with him where he said "Why did this have to happen on my
> tch?"

It actually started with the dot.com boom/crash before Bush took office, as
well as the housing market crash, the roots of which were taking hold before
Bush took office, although it seemed to be going unnoticed by most.

There was a docu-drama, and docu-series, about the dot.com boom/bust
sometime during the last 4-5 years that notes the link between the dot.com
crash, the housing market crash, and several other recession causing
incidents that it either triggered or made worse.

The moral of the story was not to invest tons of money in companies that do
not actually produce anything. Their stocks were over-inflated by the
excitement, and total lack of misunderstanding, of what the WWW was going
to be.

The people going crazy with crypto lately did not learn anything from it.

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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Dec 10 2022 10:50 am

> The moral of the story was not to invest tons of money in companies that do
> not actually produce anything. Their stocks were over-inflated by the
> excitement, and total lack of misunderstanding, of what the WWW was going
> to be.
>
> The people going crazy with crypto lately did not learn anything from it.
>

well something happened where the people in charge wanted to take out crypo, or atleast have their fingers in it too.
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> > The moral of the story was not to invest tons of money in companies that
o > > not actually produce anything. Their stocks were over-inflated by the
> > excitement, and total lack of misunderstanding, of what the WWW was going
> > to be.
> >
> > The people going crazy with crypto lately did not learn anything from it.
> >

> well something happened where the people in charge wanted to take out crypo,

> atleast have their fingers in it too.

I am guessing the latter will take care of any desire to want to get rid of
it just fine.

The second-leading donor to the DNC candidates in the 2022 cycle was that
crypto-kid who was running FTX. FTX went down the tubes right at election
time and took most of the investor money with it. I am betting the DNC got
theirs, though.

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-=> MRO wrote to Boraxman <=-

MR> Re: Re: Testing the waters
MR> By: Boraxman to MRO on Fri Dec 09 2022 08:12 pm

>
> America is almost a fascist country now. You have the corporate world and
> the government working together to control the population. Look at how Big
> Tech has been censoring Conservatives to swing the election, and they have
> close ties with the Democrats.
>
> I think its too late now for the USA. People won't "snap out" of it, you've
> already gone too far. The totalitarian state is already in place.
> Conservatives lost the culture war. They were too busy fighting for the
> rights of their enemies and screwing the working class over.

MR> there's certainly a fight to be had, but americans are not like any
MR> other people. all of us have the american spirit deep down.

MR> things got out of control, but we went through some crazy times in the
MR> past 2+ years. for everything, there is an equal and opposite
MR> reaction. that's how trump got elected. obama divided the country and
MR> threw us into a recession around 2008. people got sick of that shit
MR> and that's how trump got in. all trump had to do was troll his way
MR> into the presidency and he destroyed everyone.

MR> right now pedophiles and mentally ill people are trying to take over
MR> the country. but it only appears that it's right now. they've been
MR> working on it for a very long time. i saw it myself with my gf's
MR> daughter in middle school.

MR> like i said, for everything there is an equal and opposite reaction.
MR> people are sick of this stuff. even a worm will turn.

MR> we have a man with dementia as president right now. he's a puppet. he
MR> has very little true support. for him to get elected again there will
MR> have to be serious organized voter fraud, not just the individuals
MR> trying to accomplish it like last time. ---

I hope your right. I think you're not, but I hope you are. Too much freedom
has been lost. Most of us are too tied to the system, it has its hooks
everywhere. Companies can enforce the status quo by firing any dissenter.

Personally, I think the USA is borderline Fascist now. There is a merger of
state and corporate power. A loose coalition of Big Tech and other Big
Business, the Media, those in political power (mostly the Democrats) are all
basically working together to take away your freedom and ability to change
anything. They're pushing a nation destroying agenda and implementing means to
cancel anyone who isn't going along.

I'm not American, this is just how it looks to me as an outsider. It's all
quite horrific. It ironic, almost a generation ago you were pushing for
"regime change" in other countries, and now it seems that you need "regime
change" there.
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-=> Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

> The recession was already starting to happen before Obama took office. I
DW> eme
> er hearing about it soon before George W Bush was about to leave office, and

> re was an interview with him where he said "Why did this have to happen on
my
> tch?"

DW> It actually started with the dot.com boom/crash before Bush took
DW> office, as well as the housing market crash, the roots of which were
DW> taking hold before Bush took office, although it seemed to be going
DW> unnoticed by most.

DW> There was a docu-drama, and docu-series, about the dot.com boom/bust
DW> sometime during the last 4-5 years that notes the link between the
DW> dot.com crash, the housing market crash, and several other recession
DW> causing incidents that it either triggered or made worse.

DW> The moral of the story was not to invest tons of money in companies
DW> that do not actually produce anything. Their stocks were over-inflated
DW> by the excitement, and total lack of misunderstanding, of what the WWW
DW> was going to be.

DW> The people going crazy with crypto lately did not learn anything from
DW> it.

The leaders of the Anglosphere during that time period were truly, truly awful.
John Howard went along with that shoddy Iraq war, ruined the Australian
economy by making housing unaffordable for two whole generations of people.
Tony Blair was a cretinous nation destroying war criminal arse who hated his
own country and sought to replace it. No wonder things went tits-up.

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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: Boraxman to MRO on Mon Dec 12 2022 10:56 pm

> Personally, I think the USA is borderline Fascist now. There is a merger of
> state and corporate power. A loose coalition of Big Tech and other Big
> Business, the Media, those in political power (mostly the Democrats) are all
> basically working together to take away your freedom and ability to change
> anything. They're pushing a nation destroying agenda and implementing means
> to cancel anyone who isn't going along.

it's turning around right now.

>
> I'm not American, this is just how it looks to me as an outsider. It's all
> quite horrific. It ironic, almost a generation ago you were pushing for
> "regime change" in other countries, and now it seems that you need "regime
> change" there.

well your media twists things over there, it always has.
everything craves balance. eventually it will sort out.

we also have a complicated system of checks and balances in our government with the different branches.
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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: MRO to Boraxman on Mon Dec 12 2022 04:45 pm

> Re: Re: Testing the waters
> By: Boraxman to MRO on Mon Dec 12 2022 10:56 pm
>
> > Personally, I think the USA is borderline Fascist now. There is a merger
> > of state and corporate power. A loose coalition of Big Tech and other
> > Big Business, the Media, those in political power (mostly the Democrats)
> > are all basically working together to take away your freedom and ability
> > to change anything. They're pushing a nation destroying agenda and
> > implementing means to cancel anyone who isn't going along.
>
> it's turning around right now.
>
>
I hope so. Australia follows the USA in many ways, so if you become fascist, we'll follow. Australian companies follow the US pretty closely in terms of culture.

> > I'm not American, this is just how it looks to me as an outsider. It's
> > all quite horrific. It ironic, almost a generation ago you were pushing
> > for "regime change" in other countries, and now it seems that you need
> > "regime change" there.
>
> well your media twists things over there, it always has.
> everything craves balance. eventually it will sort out.
>
> we also have a complicated system of checks and balances in our government
> with the different branches.

This is mostly from what I see of US media. Australia media doesn't really cover what is going on in the USA in much detail, well, the mainstrean news doesn't. Other website might comment, but that is all based in what information is reported out of the USA.

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Re: Re: Testing the waters
By: Boraxman to MRO on Sat Dec 24 2022 11:43 pm

>
> > we also have a complicated system of checks and balances in our
> > government with the different branches.
>
> This is mostly from what I see of US media. Australia media doesn't
>
> really
> cover what is going on in the USA in much detail, well, the mainstrean news
> doesn't. Other website might comment, but that is all based in what
> information is reported out of the USA.

From what i understand from my australian friend, what the show over there about the usa in AU is very biased and sensationalized. there's one i like to watch on youtube that rips on biden all the time.

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