boy i am seeing a LOT of army and airforce ads online where they target young adults.

guess we are going to be involved in some wars.
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Re: going to war
By: MRO to All on Thu Nov 09 2023 04:57 am

> boy i am seeing a LOT of army and airforce ads online where they target you >
> guess we are going to be involved in some wars.

Somebody on IRC posted an article which mentioned they are having trouble
raising the number of recruits. I have not checked elsewhere for the veracity
of this information, but it would stand to reason. Nowadays, if you join the
army, you are no longer defending your country, but some corrupt bunch of
politicians.

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Re: going to war
By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Nov 09 2023 05:50 pm

> Re: going to war
> By: MRO to All on Thu Nov 09 2023 04:57 am
>
> > boy i am seeing a LOT of army and airforce ads online where they target
> > you
>
> > guess we are going to be involved in some wars.
>
> Somebody on IRC posted an article which mentioned they are having trouble
> raising the number of recruits. I have not checked elsewhere for the
> veracity of this information, but it would stand to reason. Nowadays, if you
> join the army, you are no longer defending your country, but some corrupt
> bunch of politicians.

they are ditching the they/them commercials and doing all white male ones.
need some real soldiers.
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> > boy i am seeing a LOT of army and airforce ads online where they target
o > >
> > guess we are going to be involved in some wars.

> Somebody on IRC posted an article which mentioned they are having trouble
> raising the number of recruits. I have not checked elsewhere for the veracity
> of this information, but it would stand to reason. Nowadays, if you join the
> army, you are no longer defending your country, but some corrupt bunch of
> politicians.

That source is correct. The number of volunteers among this most recent
generation of 18+ year olds has dropped. The US armed forces are trying to
alter their message in order to reach potential recruits in this new
generation, like making it seem more LGBTQ+ friendly.

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> they are ditching the they/them commercials and doing all white male ones.
> need some real soldiers.

I had not heard that, but I wondered why they thought that approach would
work to begin with.

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Re: going to war
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Nov 11 2023 09:01 am

> > they are ditching the they/them commercials and doing all white male ones.
> > need some real soldiers.
>
> I had not heard that, but I wondered why they thought that approach would
> work to begin with.
>

well they relaxed their requirements a LOT. maybe those people aren't working out. I think they have a lot of people that went awol and just thought they were joining for free school.
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-=> MRO wrote to All <=-

MR> boy i am seeing a LOT of army and airforce ads online where they
MR> target young adults.

MR> guess we are going to be involved in some wars.
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You would prefer our military attempt to recruit the elderly? I'm 64. I've
already done my hitch but if need be, I am willing.

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-=> Arelor wrote to MRO <=-

Ar> Re: going to war
Ar> By: MRO to All on Thu Nov 09 2023 04:57 am

> boy i am seeing a LOT of army and airforce ads online where they target you
>
> guess we are going to be involved in some wars.

Ar> Somebody on IRC posted an article which mentioned they are having
Ar> trouble raising the number of recruits. I have not checked elsewhere
Ar> for the veracity of this information, but it would stand to reason.
Ar> Nowadays, if you join the army, you are no longer defending your
Ar> country, but some corrupt bunch of politicians.

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One major problem the military is having is FINDING physically fit recruits.
The military now even has a program wherein hopeful recruits engage in a
physical fitness program to prepare them for basic military training. A boot
camp boot camp, in other terms. Never would have thought such a thing even
possible back when I first enlisted....

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-=> Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-

> > boy i am seeing a LOT of army and airforce ads online where they target
DW> o
> >
> > guess we are going to be involved in some wars.

> Somebody on IRC posted an article which mentioned they are having trouble
> raising the number of recruits. I have not checked elsewhere for the
veracity
> of this information, but it would stand to reason. Nowadays, if you join the
> army, you are no longer defending your country, but some corrupt bunch of
> politicians.

DW> That source is correct. The number of volunteers among this most
DW> recent generation of 18+ year olds has dropped. The US armed forces
DW> are trying to alter their message in order to reach potential recruits
DW> in this new generation, like making it seem more LGBTQ+ friendly.

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They started that shit when I was in, although it was just barely beginning.
Our military doesn't need to be woke it needs to be kicking ass. Although it's
a lot more of a push-button military than in the Reagan years, there will
always be a need for actual, physical boots on the ground who are trained and
able to engage in physical warfare. It's hard to be a warrior when you're
worried about hurting someone's tender little feelings and if you're an
ineffective soldier because YOUR tender little feelings hve been bruised then
we're better off without you.

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-=> MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

MR> Re: going to war
MR> By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Nov 11 2023 09:01 am

> > they are ditching the they/them commercials and doing all white male ones.
> > need some real soldiers.
>
> I had not heard that, but I wondered why they thought that approach would
> work to begin with.
>

MR> well they relaxed their requirements a LOT. maybe those people aren't
MR> working out. I think they have a lot of people that went awol and just
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Heh heh... when I first enlisted the Army had JUST removed enlistment in the
Army as an alternative to serving time in jail for those convicted of various
crimes. This was several years post-Vietnam and the Army was trying to be more
selective about their recruiting.

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-=> Weatherman wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

We> Our military doesn't need to be woke it needs to be kicking
We> ass.

Assuming it can't be both?

We> It's hard to be a warrior when you're worried about hurting someone's
We> tender little feelings

That feels like a bit of a stretch.

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Re: Re: going to war
By: Weatherman to MRO on Mon Nov 13 2023 02:25 am

> -=> MRO wrote to All <=-
>
> MR> boy i am seeing a LOT of army and airforce ads online where they
> MR> target young adults.
>
> MR> guess we are going to be involved in some wars.
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>
> You would prefer our military attempt to recruit the elderly? I'm 64.
> I've already done my hitch but if need be, I am willing.
>
>

yeah that's exactly what i'm getting at.
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Re: Re: going to war
By: Weatherman to Arelor on Mon Nov 13 2023 02:27 am

> One major problem the military is having is FINDING physically fit
> recruits. The military now even has a program wherein hopeful recruits
> engage in a physical fitness program to prepare them for basic military
> training. A boot camp boot camp, in other terms. Never would have thought
> such a thing even possible back when I first enlisted....
>
>

according to the armed forces, that is not the major problem.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2023/09/30/military-recruiting-desantis-woke-abortion-health-waiver-jobs-politifact/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20residual%20effects%20of%20the,recruiting%20challenges%2C%E2%80%9D%20Schwegman%20said.

https://tinyurl.com/bddthx92
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Re: Re: going to war
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Weatherman on Mon Nov 13 2023 06:26 am

> Assuming it can't be both?

Let's say that if your army has inner psychological conflicts then you are in abad spot if the other side has no inner psychological conflict because Allah
has commanded them to kill 'em all faggots.

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Re: Re: going to war
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Nov 13 2023 02:04 pm

> Re: Re: going to war
> By: poindexter FORTRAN to Weatherman on Mon Nov 13 2023 06:26 am
>
> > Assuming it can't be both?
>
> Let's say that if your army has inner psychological conflicts then you are
> in abad spot if the other side has no inner psychological conflict because
> Allah has commanded them to kill 'em all faggots.
>

i think we need a comprehensive test to give to teachers, police, the military, people that manually operate bridges, and people in govt and city positions.

it has to be more than these stupid 1000 question deals. they need to subject someone to stress and see how they react. also find a way to weed out pedophiles. Do a decent check and talk to all their friends and family and associates. After that, pay them a decent wage.

I have passed a deep fbi check and other personality tests for jobs.
We all know i'm a lunatic but i'm smart enough to scoot on through.
I'm just joking though. i handle pressure well and I'm not a pedo.

but there's different types of people. there's ones that freeze under pressure and some that ride it out. there's people that go through shit with zero mental damage and some people that get ptsd when they fly over ground combat.

my ex's husband got ptsd from the army just because someone yelled at him. he saw no combat.

I think everyone knows that they/them's are mentally unstable. people with gender identity disorder are unstable and unsafe to themselves and possible others.
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-=> Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

> Assuming it can't be both?

Ar> Let's say that if your army has inner psychological conflicts then you
Ar> are in abad spot if the other side has no inner psychological conflict
Ar> because Allah has commanded them to kill 'em all faggots.

I don't think that any modern sensibilities will impact one's ability to
defend oneself when someone's shooting at them.

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Re: Re: going to war
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Tue Nov 14 2023 05:53 am

> -=> Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
>
> > Assuming it can't be both?
>
> Ar> Let's say that if your army has inner psychological conflicts then you
> Ar> are in abad spot if the other side has no inner psychological conflict
> Ar> because Allah has commanded them to kill 'em all faggots.
>
> I don't think that any modern sensibilities will impact one's ability to
> defend oneself when someone's shooting at them.
>

I wouldn't call it senseable to have gender identity disorder and become suicidal, or to hate your country and still join the military.
There's also a lot of youth on adhd meds and other stuff. There's a huge problem with antisocial behavior and autism with young people.

Before these people would go awol, now they just aren't enlisting.
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Re: Re: going to war
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Tue Nov 14 2023 05:53 am

> I don't think that any modern sensibilities will impact one's ability to
> defend oneself when someone's shooting at them.

My uncle is an army officer here.

He has a share of stories about the current trends. Suffices to say that units
that used to be historically build up from scumbags, cutthroats and lowlifes
have stories of awesome, while units build up from random population have more
stories of suck.

A problem here is that a lot of recruitment among the general population was
done by telling the public the army was all about sharing candy with poor
people in depressed countries back in the day. That message attracts people
with modern sensibilities but it does not get the killer-types you get in corpslike the Legion or the Parachute Brigades.

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Re: Re: going to war
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Nov 13 2023 02:04 pm

> in abad spot if the other side has no inner psychological conflict because
> Allah has commanded them to kill 'em all faggots.

Does/did Allah actually use such language?
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Re: Re: going to war
By: Digital Man to Arelor on Tue Nov 14 2023 11:20 am

> Re: Re: going to war
> By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Nov 13 2023 02:04 pm
>
> > in abad spot if the other side has no inner psychological conflict
> > because Allah has commanded them to kill 'em all faggots.
>
> Does/did Allah actually use such language?

the bible and Qur'an are works created by man, despite them stating it was delivered by god in various ways. (but i wasn't there so i might be wrong)

they didn't use slang words like faggots but they say that homosexuals should
be put to death.

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Re: Re: going to war
By: Digital Man to Arelor on Tue Nov 14 2023 11:20 am

> Does/did Allah actually use such language?

Dunno about Allah, aka God (since Islamist's actually worship the Abrahamic
God) but Quran is harsh against homosexuals. Actually I think they don't need
to kill 'em all faggots if homosexuals actually repent from their sinning ways
(Quran 4:16).

There is a passage in Al-Hudud commanding explicitly that homosexuals be
killed, on the other hand.

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Re: Re: going to war
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Nov 15 2023 02:33 am

> the bible and Qur'an are works created by man, despite them stating it was
> delivered by god in various ways. (but i wasn't there so i might be wrong)

It was a rhetorical question.
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> > Assuming it can't be both?

> Ar> Let's say that if your army has inner psychological conflicts then you
> Ar> are in abad spot if the other side has no inner psychological conflict
> Ar> because Allah has commanded them to kill 'em all faggots.

> I don't think that any modern sensibilities will impact one's ability to
> defend oneself when someone's shooting at them.

Persons of a more sensitive nature are likely have a lower "PTSD threshold."

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Re: Re: going to war
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Nov 15 2023 08:41 am

I have been watching this thread evolve and waiting for something to spark my interest. Im not sure I have anything to say about PTSD as an active duty soldier of 19 years that works in computers. I do not have it but I do have friends that do. I also come in contact with many younger soldiers daily as I am currently at a training base. I also spent a few years recruiting. I can say that they, the 17-24 year old E1-E4 junior soldiers, are just as sensitive and dumb as we old timers were when we joined. This is not a life for someone who has fragile emotions and fortunately initial training weeds most of that type out. What is left is people that, over time, can be molded into soldiers that anyone could be proud of. They are instilled with something called Army Values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage. These values and the constant barage of institutional thinking helps to turn those jelly-like minds into something like what you might want representing you overseas.

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Re: Re: going to war
By: Xanth to Dumas Walker on Thu Nov 16 2023 09:55 am

> most of that type out. What is left is people that, over time, can be molded
> into soldiers that anyone could be proud of. They are instilled with
> something called Army Values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service,
> Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage. These values and the constant barage
> of institutional thinking helps to turn those jelly-like minds into
> something like what you might want representing you overseas.
>

yeah my whole family are lifers. until a few years back i was in constant contact with the military. shit is NOT the same. requirements are lower. standards have been lowered. 'woke' and progressive values are being injected into our military. that's not good for anything.

look at whats happened to our society since this value change.
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