Today I did 1+ fucking mile at 10 degree elevation on my
treadmill (*).

Of course, music, of the rockin' kind, is necessary to
accomplish that.

The music:

The Smiths: Sweet and Tender Hooligan

Rolling Stones: Heartbreaker

Rolling Stones: Bitch

The Smiths: Handsome Devil

The Smiths: The Queen is Dead

Rolling Stones: Jumpin' Jack Flash

Procol Harum: Repent Walpurgis

The Doors: Not to Touch the Earth

Oh yeah! I can trounce the infidel! (See my future
posts.)

What does this have to do with GNU/Linux, other
than all this incredible music was realized on my
incomparable GNU/Linux system?

Well, that's for YOU to figure out.

I do not waste my time pandering to fucking incompetent
retards.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

(*) I bought my treadmill for $800 from Schwinn Fitness
before they were bought out by Nautilus. Now, the same
fucking treadmill costs $2,000.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

On 1/23/2024 4:02 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> Today I did 1+ fucking mile at 10 degree elevation on my
> treadmill (*).
>
> Of course, music, of the rockin' kind, is necessary to
> accomplish that.
>
> The music:
>
> The Smiths: Sweet and Tender Hooligan
>
> Rolling Stones: Heartbreaker
>
> Rolling Stones: Bitch
>
> The Smiths: Handsome Devil
>
> The Smiths: The Queen is Dead
>
> Rolling Stones: Jumpin' Jack Flash
>
> Procol Harum: Repent Walpurgis
>
> The Doors: Not to Touch the Earth
>
> Oh yeah! I can trounce the infidel! (See my future
> posts.)
>
> What does this have to do with GNU/Linux, other
> than all this incredible music was realized on my
> incomparable GNU/Linux system?
>
> Well, that's for YOU to figure out.
>
> I do not waste my time pandering to fucking incompetent
> retards.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>
> (*) I bought my treadmill for $800 from Schwinn Fitness
> before they were bought out by Nautilus. Now, the same
> fucking treadmill costs $2,000.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>

Your choices of rock are very innocent. They don't generate a kick in me
anymore.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 22:02:03 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> Today I did 1+ fucking mile at 10 degree elevation on my treadmill (*).

Speed? I just got back from the gym. I do the cardio workout, knocking 10
or 15 years off my age to get a decent target heart rate. The treadmill
made it to 15 degrees to get my blood flowing before settling back to the
9-10 degree range. I did 1.5 miles.

> (*) I bought my treadmill for $800 from Schwinn Fitness before they
> were bought out by Nautilus. Now, the same fucking treadmill costs
> $2,000.

I have a membership at Planet Fitness, $10 / month. They have a lot of
treadmills. And stair steppers, stationary bikes, ellipticals*, rowing
machine, free weights, and machines. Your $800 would pay for 80 months and
you wouldn't have to worry about treadmill repairs. The deal breaker might
be you would have to get out of your basement.

* I hate those damn things. Two minutes and my knees, hips, and thighs
ache. I must be doing something wrong.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:17:33 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

> Your choices of rock are very innocent. They don't generate a kick in me
> anymore.

A little heavy on the Smiths. Also I'd go with Whiter Shade of Pale and
The End.

Steppenwolf Monster
Canned Heat Amphetamine Annie
Little Feat Willin
Guns'N'Roses One In A Million
Pretenders Hymn for Her
Lennon Workingclass Hero
Metallica The Unforgiven
Slayer War Ensemble
Barry McGuire Eve of Destruction

The last will fit in with the cool down period.

My worst mistake was Free Bird. If you're on a statioanry bike you tend
to follow the tempo. It starts at about 70 BPM for a leisurely pedal and
leaves you in a pool of sweat.

rbowman wrote:

> Farley Flud wrote:
>>
>> Today I did 1+ fucking mile at 10 degree elevation on my treadmill (*).
>
>Speed? I just got back from the gym. I do the cardio workout, knocking 10
>or 15 years off my age to get a decent target heart rate. The treadmill
>made it to 15 degrees to get my blood flowing before settling back to the
>9-10 degree range. I did 1.5 miles.

I've been averaging a solid 20 miles/week running this Winter,
fortunately almost all outdoors, due to the mild weather. The recent
cold snap had me driving to the gym to run on their track. Other than
that, there's just my daily pushups and pullups.

--
"CTOs find it hard to choose a Linux with any certainty that that
distro will be around in 6 months." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron
Quark

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:15:39 -0600, chrisv wrote:

> I've been averaging a solid 20 miles/week running this Winter,
> fortunately almost all outdoors, due to the mild weather. The recent
> cold snap had me driving to the gym to run on their track. Other than
> that, there's just my daily pushups and pullups.

I've never been a runner but I usually get in 10-20 miles a week in
mountainous terrain. At -20 below I wasn't ambitious enough to drive
anywhere and then it segued into a week of light duty after an eye
operation. Time to get back to work. That 15 degrees on the treadmill
doesn't even come close to the trails around here.

I gave up pullups a while back. The muscles were willing but the joints
and tendons weren't happy. The gym has pulldown and assisted pullup
machines so I can control it better than body weight.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:15:39 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>
>> I've been averaging a solid 20 miles/week running this Winter,
>> fortunately almost all outdoors, due to the mild weather. The recent
>> cold snap had me driving to the gym to run on their track. Other than
>> that, there's just my daily pushups and pullups.
>
> I've never been a runner but I usually get in 10-20 miles a week in
> mountainous terrain. At -20 below I wasn't ambitious enough to drive
> anywhere and then it segued into a week of light duty after an eye
> operation. Time to get back to work. That 15 degrees on the treadmill
> doesn't even come close to the trails around here.
>
> I gave up pullups a while back. The muscles were willing but the joints
> and tendons weren't happy. The gym has pulldown and assisted pullup
> machines so I can control it better than body weight.

I do not run much anymore, just 30 to 45 minutes every few days. Years of
pavement-pounding running, torquing my joints on the soccer field, and heavy
training classes got me a nice set of hip replacements. So I do a lot of bike
riding. Also got my head pounded in soccer (hits in the face, kicked in
the head while playing keeper) and I now have three plates in my neck.

Apart from biking and walking, I go to a gym fairly often. Still a little
overweight though, a bloaty face like Carson Daly :-D

One thing I have never enjoyed is working out with earphones. Instead,
usually I will think of a tune and it becomes an earworm.

--
You will gain money by a speculation or lottery.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:47:43 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> I do not run much anymore, just 30 to 45 minutes every few days. Years
> of pavement-pounding running, torquing my joints on the soccer field,
> and heavy training classes got me a nice set of hip replacements.

There is a Blackfeet family name that describes me, 'Heavy Runner'. I
still have my OEM knees and hips thanks to avoiding it. I do have a gamma
nail in one hip from a fracture but the joint itself still works.

When I was in the college outing club some would run down mountains
skipping from rock to rock while I plodded. I'm still going but i'm not
sure about some of them.

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been averaging a solid 20 miles/week running this Winter,
>>> fortunately almost all outdoors, due to the mild weather. The recent
>>> cold snap had me driving to the gym to run on their track. Other than
>>> that, there's just my daily pushups and pullups.
>
>I do not run much anymore, just 30 to 45 minutes every few days. Years of
>pavement-pounding running, torquing my joints on the soccer field, and heavy
>training classes got me a nice set of hip replacements. So I do a lot of bike
>riding.

I'm going with the theory that running, the "impact" and all, makes my
joints stronger. In moderation. I've always thought that training
for "marathons" was stupid.

>Apart from biking and walking, I go to a gym fairly often. Still a little
>overweight though, a bloaty face like Carson Daly :-D

I'm a skinny fsck.

>One thing I have never enjoyed is working out with earphones. Instead,
>usually I will think of a tune and it becomes an earworm.

Same, but sometimes just thoughts. I usually run on the streets, so
earphones are not the best idea. 8)

--
"Now Linosuck joins Lying Dumbkopf and JED as fools who believe all
the Star Wars movies were rendered on Linux." - DumFSck, lying
shamelessly

On 1/24/2024 8:47 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> I do not run much anymore, just 30 to 45 minutes every few days. Years of
> pavement-pounding running, torquing my joints on the soccer field, and heavy
> training classes got me a nice set of hip replacements. So I do a lot of bike
> riding. Also got my head pounded in soccer (hits in the face, kicked in
> the head while playing keeper) and I now have three plates in my neck.

So cro-magnon. You've been true to yourself.

Physfitfreak wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 1/24/2024 8:47 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> I do not run much anymore, just 30 to 45 minutes every few days. Years of
>> pavement-pounding running, torquing my joints on the soccer field, and heavy
>> training classes got me a nice set of hip replacements. So I do a lot of bike
>> riding. Also got my head pounded in soccer (hits in the face, kicked in
>> the head while playing keeper) and I now have three plates in my neck.
>
> So cro-magnon. You've been true to yourself.

Indeed! And I had one hell of a lot of fun! As they say, "Live until you die!"

--
I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year. I
will live in the Past, the Present, and the Future. The Spirits of all
Three shall strive within me. I will not shut out the lessons that they
teach. Oh, tell me that I may sponge away the writing on this stone!
-- Charles Dickens

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 9:00:04 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 22:02:03 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>
> > Today I did 1+ fucking mile at 10 degree elevation on my treadmill (*).
>
> Speed?

Not particularly swift. Putting times to the eight listed tracks:

3:37 Smiths: Sweet and Tender Hooligan
3:28 Stones: Heartbreaker
3:36 Stones: Bitch
2:45 Smiths: Handsome Devil
6:28 Smiths: The Queen is Dead
3:46 Stones: Jumpin' Jack Flash
5:06 Procol Harum: Repent Walpurgis
3:55 Doors: Not to Touch the Earth
---------
32:41

For one mile traveled, that's less than 2mph (1.84).
Even if it was 1.25 miles, its still just 2.3mph

In contrast, 3mph at an 6.4 degree incline for an hour gives
a +1000ft gain (roughly twice that of the above):

<http://huntzinger.com/photo/2023/tread-incline.jpeg>

> > (*) I bought my treadmill for $800 from Schwinn Fitness before they
> > were bought out by Nautilus. Now, the same fucking treadmill costs
> > $2,000.
>
> I have a membership at Planet Fitness, $10 / month. They have a lot of
> treadmills. And stair steppers, stationary bikes, ellipticals*, rowing
> machine, free weights, and machines. Your $800 would pay for 80 months and
> you wouldn't have to worry about treadmill repairs.

My gym is similar. They cut their fees last year, so my ROI vs one $800 treadmill
went from 4 years to over ten years. Granted, I doubt that this low price will last
for a decade, but for as long as it does, the $800 can stay in the bank at 5% and
earn $40/year, which makes the gym 'free' by this metric.

> The deal breaker might be you would have to get out of your basement.

Yes, there's also that aspect of getting out into society too...although there's a
balance there for seeking out times the gym is empty when CoVid rates spike..

-hh

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 05:09:01 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote:

> Yes, there's also that aspect of getting out into society too...although
> there's a balance there for seeking out times the gym is empty when
> CoVid rates spike.

I don't use it but the Planet Fitness app shows how many people are
currently at the gym. Even with the New Years Resolution crowd I've never
had a problem. There are only 4 stair steppers but I never counted the
treadmills. A lot. Same with ellipticals and bikes.

The Smith machines can be busy but I'm not fond of them. They are fine for
bench presses but they feel wrong for dead lifts.

I don't know about their business model but it seems to work. The mom &
pop gym I went to for years was quite a bit more expensive and was mostly
free weights with one treadmill and a couple of bikes. Covid killed that
one although I'd switched prior to covid. It was across town where PF is
around the corner from where I work so I have fewer excuses.

On 1/26/2024 7:09 AM, -hh wrote:
> 3:37 Smiths: Sweet and Tender Hooligan
> 3:28 Stones: Heartbreaker
> 3:36 Stones: Bitch
> 2:45 Smiths: Handsome Devil
> 6:28 Smiths: The Queen is Dead
> 3:46 Stones: Jumpin' Jack Flash
> 5:06 Procol Harum: Repent Walpurgis
> 3:55 Doors: Not to Touch the Earth

You too? You're too sane and neat for my liking. I've dealt with rougher
times than you :)

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 6:09:13 PM UTC-5, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 1/26/2024 7:09 AM, -hh wrote:
> > 3:37 Smiths: Sweet and Tender Hooligan
> > 3:28 Stones: Heartbreaker
> > 3:36 Stones: Bitch
> > 2:45 Smiths: Handsome Devil
> > 6:28 Smiths: The Queen is Dead
> > 3:46 Stones: Jumpin' Jack Flash
> > 5:06 Procol Harum: Repent Walpurgis
> > 3:55 Doors: Not to Touch the Earth
>
> You too? You're too sane and neat for my liking. I've dealt with rougher
> times than you :)

Nah, I just had a job for several years that included tearing apart bullshit claims.

The neatness above is simply being lazy and using copy/paste.

-hh

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 1:50:39 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 05:09:01 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote:
>
> > Yes, there's also that aspect of getting out into society too...although
> > there's a balance there for seeking out times the gym is empty when
> > CoVid rates spike.
>
> I don't use it but the Planet Fitness app shows how many people are
> currently at the gym.

Good to know.

> Even with the New Years Resolution crowd I've never had a
> problem. There are only 4 stair steppers but I never counted the
> treadmills. A lot. Same with ellipticals and bikes.

I don’t recall what last January was like; this year’s been light because
of other personal factors which have limited my ability to go.

> The Smith machines can be busy but I'm not fond of them. They are fine for
> bench presses but they feel wrong for dead lifts.

I’m not personally familiar with Smith .. my gym has a bunch of Nautilus gear
in a side room that’s usually nearly empty…pretty much can go in and hit a dozen
different machines with zero waiting.

> I don't know about their business model but it seems to work…

In retrospect, I’m paying more for gas to get to my gym than its membership cost.

-hh

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:34:56 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote:

> I’m not personally familiar with Smith .. my gym has a bunch of Nautilus
> gear in a side room that’s usually nearly empty…pretty much can go in
> and hit a dozen different machines with zero waiting.

https://www.thefitnessoutlet.com/nautilus-smith-machine/

idk if the ones at PF are actually Nautilus. The idea goes back to Jack
LaLanne and was perfected by Smith.

"Enhanced biomechanics with a 7 degree angle for squatting and pressing
motions"

That's the killer. If you're doing a press or squat the 7 degrees means
the bar is moving toward your head for a press which is the natural path.

For a dead lift the bar is either moving away from you or towards you if
you stand on the other side. Towards you is a little better but it isn't
great.

No big deal. I'm not training for the geriatric strong man competition,
only trying to maintain. The dead lift was always my best one. I don't
have the ROM in my right arm to do a back squat. I have long arms and you
really should have alligator arms to be good at the bench press.

> In retrospect, I’m paying more for gas to get to my gym than its
> membership cost.

The gas isn't much of a factor. The grocery store, CostCo, Lowes, Home
Depot, Best Buy, the gas station, and a bunch of other stuff are all along
the same street and it's the first thing I hit going into town.

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 05:09:01 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote:

> Putting times to the eight listed tracks:
>
> 3:37 Smiths: Sweet and Tender Hooligan
> 3:28 Stones: Heartbreaker
> 3:36 Stones: Bitch
> 2:45 Smiths: Handsome Devil
> 6:28 Smiths: The Queen is Dead
> 3:46 Stones: Jumpin' Jack Flash
> 5:06 Procol Harum: Repent Walpurgis
> 3:55 Doors: Not to Touch the Earth
> ---------
> 32:41
>

My, my. That was a fair amount of labor to look up, compile
and sum all those individual times.

What did it accomplish, besides feebly supporting some totally
unfounded supposition?

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

>
>> The deal breaker might be you would have to get out of your basement.
>
> Yes, there's also that aspect of getting out into society too...although there's a
> balance there for seeking out times the gym is empty when CoVid rates spike.
>

You are a couple of dumbbells (pun intended).

Do you buy an expensive washer/drier combo or do you take a trip
to the laundromat?

Freedom and convenience have an unmeasurable price.

When I come home I can take off all my clothes and hop on the
treadmill for a totally naked jaunt, with my genitalia flapping
in the man-made breeze (i.e. cooling fan). Can I do that at
the local gym?

I also like to work out in the haze of an alcohol buzz. Can
I bring a jug of my Carlo Rossi into the local Planet Fitness?

Heed the immortal words of the mighty philosopher:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwvn_kfmUw

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

>I also like to work out in the haze of an alcohol buzz. Can
>I bring a jug of my Carlo Rossi into the local Planet Fitness?

Wine? God damn, that's some faggoty-assed shit. You're a quirk and a
half, Gentoo, doing taxes on an elaborate spreadsheet rather than a
custom app, wine drinking, and that's when you're not claiming to be a
sexual predator, publicly. You are the weirdest MF I know.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 5:53:41 AM UTC-5, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 05:09:01 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote:
> > Putting times to the eight listed tracks:
> >
> > 3:37 Smiths: Sweet and Tender Hooligan
> > 3:28 Stones: Heartbreaker
> > 3:36 Stones: Bitch
> > 2:45 Smiths: Handsome Devil
> > 6:28 Smiths: The Queen is Dead
> > 3:46 Stones: Jumpin' Jack Flash
> > 5:06 Procol Harum: Repent Walpurgis
> > 3:55 Doors: Not to Touch the Earth
> > ---------
> > 32:41
> >
> My, my. That was a fair amount of labor to look up, compile
> and sum all those individual times.

Copy/paste, Google, compose. All of three minutes, which is briefer
than a treadmill’s post-workout cooldown cycle.

> What did it accomplish, besides feebly supporting some totally
> unfounded supposition?

That your claimed workout was just like you are: short & slow.

> Do you buy an expensive washer/drier combo or do you take a trip
> to the laundromat?

Do you own an entire set of dry cleaning equipment too for your business suits?

> Freedom and convenience have an unmeasurable price.

So too does false economies.

> I also like to work out in the haze of an alcohol buzz. Can
> I bring a jug of my Carlo Rossi into the local Planet Fitness?

Water bottle would work, if you’re really that foolish.
Ditto for not wearing adequate support.

-hh

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:17:38 AM UTC-5, Joel wrote:
> Farley Flud <f...@linux.rocks> wrote:
>
> >I also like to work out in the haze of an alcohol buzz. Can
> >I bring a jug of my Carlo Rossi into the local Planet Fitness?
>
> Wine?

Nah, Gallo isn’t wine, but a brand of notoriously cheap swill.

> God damn, that's some faggoty-assed shit.

Can’t say that I’ve met any LGBTQ+ , nor even any stereotype or cliché
thereof … who would stoop as low as drink the swill he’s bragging of.

It’s not even a good cooking wine, but it is what one’s parents would
keep around for serving to the family drunk uncle whenever he visits,
for its not only cheap, but helps make such visits infrequent.

-hh

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:17:38?AM UTC-5, Joel wrote:
>> Farley Flud <f...@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>
>> >I also like to work out in the haze of an alcohol buzz. Can
>> >I bring a jug of my Carlo Rossi into the local Planet Fitness?
>>
>> Wine?
>
>Nah, Gallo isn’t wine, but a brand of notoriously cheap swill.

I actually bought that brand, the couple of times I experimented with
getting drunk from wine. Only other kind I've purchased was Trader
Joe's two-buck chuck, which was a lot like grape juice. But I
certainly believe there are better brands, out there.

>> God damn, that's some faggoty-assed shit.
>
>Can’t say that I’ve met any LGBTQ+ , nor even any stereotype or cliché
>thereof … who would stoop as low as drink the swill he’s bragging of.
>
>It’s not even a good cooking wine, but it is what one’s parents would
>keep around for serving to the family drunk uncle whenever he visits,
>for its not only cheap, but helps make such visits infrequent.

I certainly didn't mean to be a phobe, just using the language in a
non-literal way.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:17:38?AM UTC-5, Joel wrote:
>>> Farley Flud <f...@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I also like to work out in the haze of an alcohol buzz. Can
>>> >I bring a jug of my Carlo Rossi into the local Planet Fitness?
>>>
>>> Wine?
>>
>>Nah, Gallo isn’t wine, but a brand of notoriously cheap swill.
>
> I actually bought that brand, the couple of times I experimented with
> getting drunk from wine. Only other kind I've purchased was Trader
> Joe's two-buck chuck, which was a lot like grape juice. But I
> certainly believe there are better brands, out there.

There are!

http://bumwine.com/

Well damn, all but the main page are unreachable.

--
Q: What do you call a blind, deaf-mute, quadraplegic Virginian?
A: Trustworthy.

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 7:49:25 AM UTC-5, Joel wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> >On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:17:38?AM UTC-5, Joel wrote:
> >> Farley Flud <f...@linux.rocks> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I also like to work out in the haze of an alcohol buzz. Can
> >> >I bring a jug of my Carlo Rossi into the local Planet Fitness?
> >>
> >> Wine?
> >
> >Nah, Gallo isn’t wine, but a brand of notoriously cheap swill.
>
> I actually bought that brand, the couple of times I experimented with
> getting drunk from wine. Only other kind I've purchased was Trader
> Joe's two-buck chuck, which was a lot like grape juice. But I
> certainly believe there are better brands, out there.

There certainly are.

> >> God damn, that's some faggoty-assed shit.
> >
> >Can’t say that I’ve met any LGBTQ+ , nor even any stereotype or cliché
> >thereof … who would stoop as low as drink the swill he’s bragging of.
> >
> >It’s not even a good cooking wine, but it is what one’s parents would
> >keep around for serving to the family drunk uncle whenever he visits,
> >for its not only cheap, but helps make such visits infrequent.
>
> I certainly didn't mean to be a phobe, just using the language in a
> non-literal way.

I was also not being phobic, but was having fun with how it’s a common
stereotype that they often have better taste/pallet/etc than ‘Normies’.
For example, see “Queer Eye [for the Straight Guy]”:

< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Eye_(2003_TV_series)>

-hh

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Nah, Gallo isn’t wine, but a brand of notoriously cheap swill.
>>
>> I actually bought that brand, the couple of times I experimented with
>> getting drunk from wine. Only other kind I've purchased was Trader
>> Joe's two-buck chuck, which was a lot like grape juice. But I
>> certainly believe there are better brands, out there.
>
>There are!
>
> http://bumwine.com/
>
>Well damn, all but the main page are unreachable.

LOL, I have seen that site before. Grain alcohol "wine" is divine
when you're trying to pass out in a dark alley, I guess.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.