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Libima update

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Subject: Libima update
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 by: Mihai Moise - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 06:09 UTC

I just got a new computer from Newegg. It makes my old one look like junk. With 8 cores instead of 2, a brute force optimization takes 1 day instead of 4.

I have noticed that even though a cubic predictor has a higher PSNR, a quadratic predictor looks better for lossy compression because it smudges edges less. Smudges are more annoying than other artifacts. Even better results can be achieved by detecting which blocks have an edge and using more bits.

For this image:
https://www.pngegg.com/en/png-wvrud

here are the file sizes:

asymmetric cubic 4099820
symmetric cubic 4035623
symmetric quadratic 3966858

I use coffee to give me energy to program. I want internetters to watch me develop the best image compressor.

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 09:55 UTC

On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:09:06 -0800 (PST)
Mihai Moise <mihai.moise5@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got a new computer from Newegg. It makes my old one look like junk. With 8 cores instead of 2, a brute force optimization takes 1 day instead of 4.
>
> I have noticed that even though a cubic predictor has a higher PSNR, a quadratic predictor looks better for lossy compression because it smudges edges less. Smudges are more annoying than other artifacts. Even better results can be achieved by detecting which blocks have an edge and using more bits.
>
> For this image:
> https://www.pngegg.com/en/png-wvrud
>
> here are the file sizes:
>
> asymmetric cubic 4099820
> symmetric cubic 4035623
> symmetric quadratic 3966858
>
> I use coffee to give me energy to program. I want internetters to watch me develop the best image compressor.
>
The coffee makes you post the same thing over & over?

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"Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:09:06 -0800 (PST)
> Mihai Moise <mihai.moise5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just got a new computer from Newegg. It makes my old one look like
>> junk. With 8 cores instead of 2, a brute force optimization takes 1
>> day instead of 4.
>>
>> I have noticed that even though a cubic predictor has a higher PSNR,
>> a quadratic predictor looks better for lossy compression because it
>> smudges edges less. Smudges are more annoying than other
>> artifacts. Even better results can be achieved by detecting which
>> blocks have an edge and using more bits.
>>
>> For this image:
>> https://www.pngegg.com/en/png-wvrud
>>
>> here are the file sizes:
>>
>> asymmetric cubic 4099820
>> symmetric cubic 4035623
>> symmetric quadratic 3966858
>>
>> I use coffee to give me energy to program. I want internetters to
>> watch me develop the best image compressor.
>
> The coffee makes you post the same thing over & over?

His redundancy makes him easier to compress.

Phil
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Is midnight 0:00 or 24:00? I never understood it. Maybe other people can explain it to me.

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 by: Richard Damon - Tue, 31 Jan 2023 03:09 UTC

On 1/30/23 9:33 PM, Mihai Cartoaje wrote:
> Is midnight 0:00 or 24:00? I never understood it. Maybe other people can explain it to me.

Conventional rules say the hour is 00 - 23, so 00:00

You might be able to argue that the exact instant of midnight is 24:00
since that is the end of the day, but the very next moment would be

00:00:00.0000...01 since it IS in the next day, so 0 hours into the day.

So we don't write Midnight as 24:00 as that is only plausable for an
infintesimal fraction of a second.

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 by: Mihai Moise - Tue, 31 Jan 2023 03:39 UTC

Libima is the alternative to WiMP.

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 by: Mihai Moise - Tue, 31 Jan 2023 05:02 UTC

I can post about non-compression topics in this thread. It's mine.

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 by: Mihai Moise - Tue, 31 Jan 2023 05:38 UTC

I can post about non-compression topics in this thread. That's mine.

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You people don't appreciate my posts.

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I realized why they are called bookshelf speakers. The books absorb the echo.

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I brew rosehip tea and coffee together. I like coffee cold, like the iced cappuccinos at Tim Hortons. With breakfast eggs. Since Google adopted a javascript interface, this newsgroup is dead. So no one is watch me write how I program.

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 by: Mihai Moise - Tue, 31 Jan 2023 21:33 UTC

I brew rosehip tea and coffee together. I like coffee cold, like the iced cappuccinos at Tim Hortons. With breakfast eggs. Since Google adopted a javascript interface, this newsgroup is dead. So no one is watch me write how I program.

I am also good at physics. Though not a crackpot like the people who want the goverments to fund less experimental physics and more people who don't believe in quantum mechanics. When I read a physics book, I notice the errors experts made. I wish I met a hot girl accross the hall.

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I don't like archivers which don't have a keep broken option. If a file fails the checksum test, there might still be a reason to keep it. If the file is a video file, the user might want to view the beginning.

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I hope you appreciate all the information in my first post. It took me a lot of effort.

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 by: Mihai Moise - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 07:01 UTC

The people in London, Ontario say very interesting things just standing in line. Such as,

"Don't use your girl power."
"I'm not short; I'm vertically challenged."

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I wonder what percentage of girls in statistics would have a boyfriend.

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Or want their parents to like them.

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 by: Mihai Moise - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 14:03 UTC

I have invented a lossless 8-DCT which uses 8 multiplications. The previous record was 15 multiplications.

The S transform is

b -= a
a += b >> 1

I shall call the T transform

a += b
b -= a >> 1

A normalized rotation can be made like,

x += c0 * y
y += c1 * x
x += c2 * y

The DCT does not have to be normalized because the scaling can be absorbed in the quantization. If a rotation does not have to be normalized, it frees up a degree of freedom, and the rotation can be made with 2 multiplications.

The last step is inserting these techniques in this flowchart:
https://fgiesen.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/plonka_dct1.png
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 by: Phil Carmody - Wed, 1 Feb 2023 19:18 UTC

Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> writes:
> On 1/30/23 9:33 PM, Mihai Cartoaje wrote:
>> Is midnight 0:00 or 24:00? I never understood it. Maybe other people
>> can explain it to me.
>
> Conventional rules say the hour is 00 - 23, so 00:00
>
> You might be able to argue that the exact instant of midnight is 24:00
> since that is the end of the day, but the very next moment would be
>
> 00:00:00.0000...01 since it IS in the next day, so 0 hours into the day.
>
> So we don't write Midnight as 24:00 as that is only plausable for an
> infintesimal fraction of a second.

ISO thinks otherwise:

"Thus the value ‘24:00:00’ is chosen to represent the final
instant of the day"

"23:59:58’, ‘23:59:59’, ‘23:59:60’, ‘24:00:00’ are times before or at
the ending of the day;"

You need a sensible reason to use it, and it might not be compatible
with tighter standards that utilise ISO8601 (such as some internet
standards), but sometimes it's exactly what you want to use.

Phil

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There are people who want Lena to no longer be used. It's nice that they pursue their dream no matter what.

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I prefer 0:00, 1:00 , 2:00 than 24:00, 1:00.

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I prefer 0:00, 1:00, 2:00 than 24:00, 1:00.

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I am not afraid of what people shall think of me from my newsgroup posts.

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Range Asymmetric Numeral System has the efficiency of range coding and the speed of Huffman.

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