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* Why Python When There Is Perl?Lester Thorpe
+* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
|+* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?rbowman
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|`* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Nuxxie
| +* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Chris Ahlstrom
| |`- Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?rbowman
| `* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?rbowman
|  `* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
|   `* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
|    `- Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?rbowman
`* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Physfitfreak
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 || || |  `* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 || || |    `* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 || || `* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Stéphane CARPENTIER
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 || || | `* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 || || ||   | ||  `* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Stéphane CARPENTIER
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 || || ||   | | |`* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 +* Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?Yaxley Peaks
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Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?

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From: ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com (RonB)
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Subject: Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?
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 by: RonB - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:11 UTC

On 2024-04-10, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-04-08, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
>>>>>>> most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because of a higher suicide rate. The rural counties have a far lower
>>>>>> homicide rate. From the above article:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of
>>>>>> gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate
>>>>>> of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping's analysis."
>>>>>
>>>>> That's very comforting to know that gun-toters can commit both homicide and
>>>>> suicide. :-*
>>>>
>>>> I'm more worried about the ones who commit homicide. How about you?
>>>
>>> Both are unfortunate. And aren't both sins in your belief system?
>>
>> Both are sins, but only one is murder. Again if you can't figure out which
>> is worse and why, then you're an idiot.
>
> Nah, I don't care which is "worse".

Of course you don't — it would weaken your, "put your brains in neutral,"
emotionally-based argument if you admitted the truth.

That's why you're gullible. You allow your emotions to rule your thoughts
instead of relying on logic.

Murder is completely different than suicide. And, by the way, you never
commented on assisted "suicide" — is that "good" suicide while shooting
yourself in the head is "bad" suicide? How do you (personally) make the
distinction? Do you think there's a difference?

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?

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Subject: Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?
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 by: Mr Ön!on - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:50 UTC

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

> Something needs to be done.

This is something, therefore it must be done.

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Re: Why Python When There Is Perl?

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 by: Chris Ahlstrom - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 15:38 UTC

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:36:35 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
>> royalties:
>>
>>> I came up with an interesting use for [metaclasses], to allow
>>> convenient definition of a hierarchy of exception classes representing
>>> return codes from a given API. More details in the “Uses For
>>> Metaclasses” notebook in this collection
>>> <https://gitlab.com/ldo/python_topics_notebooks/>.
>>
>> Interesting. It is not clear to me why you need metaclasses to implement
>> the example, though.
>
> How would you do it at least as easily, without them?
>
> And how would you do that in C++?
>
>> On another note, C++20 introduces the concept of "concepts", which put
>> constraints on templates and their parameters.
>
> In Python, that would just be another instance of the same type-annotation
> system it already has. Remember that Python does not need a “template
> language” versus a “run-time language”.
>
>> These programming languages arms races are fun!
>
> C++ is already over 5× the complexity of Python, and looks like it is
> growing even faster.
>
> In other words, it is C++ that is struggling to keep up, not Python.

Whatever, dude. Keep checking boxes in the feechure matrix.

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 by: Physfitfreak - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 17:34 UTC

On 4/9/24 11:19, Physfitfreak wrote:
> It is like saying, "You are just experiencing the effect of the ability
> of a sharp object to penetrate into a 70% water body-material. That's
> all! What else do you think is happening?", when a burglar is stabbing
> you inside your bedroom.

There must be an English word for such act. Either a verb, or an
adjective "being something". In Persian we have a short phrase for it
and a longer saying, not a succinct word (as far as i know - haven't
been in touch with those who're very good in Persian). But if there's a
word in English for the verb or adjective describing it, I cannot find
it in the dictionaries and thesauruses.

If there's actually not an English word for it, then somebody needs to
create it cause that kind of act is getting pretty common in this land
of the brave, especially in news media and politics talk. It's even
seeping into completely unrelated media, like this COLA of yours.

"facetious", for instance, comes just a bit close, but still is far from
an adjective for exactly that act. It really only describes a tiny
aspect of it.

In psychology (I just referred to my outline of the course I made
decades back) the act is, in a limited way, recognized but doesn't have
a single word name. It uses two words which without the context is
difficult to understand the meaning (Confirmation Bias). It points only
to cases which the actor is also sincere, not when he deliberately does
it for gross omission of other aspects of the act about which he's
negatively sensitive. So, at least up to a few decades back, I don't
think English language had a single word for it. But by now, there could
well be one in use.

Any of you Bozos know that word? If not, you're entitled to drop your
pants and finger yourselves while saying, "Mama, gimme som'dat milk".

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 by: Physfitfreak - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 21:31 UTC

On 4/12/24 12:34, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 4/9/24 11:19, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> It is like saying, "You are just experiencing the effect of the
>> ability of a sharp object to penetrate into a 70% water body-material.
>> That's all! What else do you think is happening?", when a burglar is
>> stabbing you inside your bedroom.
>
>
> There must be an English word for such act. Either a verb, or an
> adjective "being something". In Persian we have a short phrase for it
> and a longer saying, not a succinct word (as far as i know - haven't
> been in touch with those who're very good in Persian). But if there's a
> word in English for the verb or adjective describing it, I cannot find
> it in the dictionaries and thesauruses.
>
> If there's actually not an English word for it, then somebody needs to
> create it cause that kind of act is getting pretty common in this land
> of the brave, especially in news media and politics talk. It's even
> seeping into completely unrelated media, like this COLA of yours.
>
> "facetious", for instance, comes just a bit close, but still is far from
> an adjective for exactly that act. It really only describes a tiny
> aspect of it.
>
> In psychology (I just referred to my outline of the course I made
> decades back) the act is, in a limited way, recognized but doesn't have
> a single word name. It uses two words which without the context is
> difficult to understand the meaning (Confirmation Bias). It points only
> to cases which the actor is also sincere, not when he deliberately does
> it for gross omission of other aspects of the act about which he's
> negatively sensitive. So, at least up to a few decades back, I don't
> think English language had a single word for it. But by now, there could
> well be one in use.
>
> Any of you Bozos know that word? If not, you're entitled to drop your
> pants and finger yourselves while saying, "Mama, gimme som'dat milk".
>
>
>

An English phrase for it would be "obfuscating the culprit." Is there a
single direct word for it?

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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 03:24 UTC

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:38:44 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Keep checking boxes in the feechure matrix.

And keep adding them to your C++ wishlist. Already 5-6× the complexity of
Python, yet nowhere near as expressive.

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 by: Chris Ahlstrom - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 14:57 UTC

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:38:44 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Keep checking boxes in the feechure matrix.
>
> And keep adding them to your C++ wishlist. Already 5-6× the complexity of
> Python, yet nowhere near as expressive.

:-D You are full of shit.

--
Hope that the day after you die is a nice day.

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 by: Physfitfreak - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 17:36 UTC

On 4/12/24 16:31, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 4/12/24 12:34, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/9/24 11:19, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> It is like saying, "You are just experiencing the effect of the
>>> ability of a sharp object to penetrate into a 70% water
>>> body-material. That's all! What else do you think is happening?",
>>> when a burglar is stabbing you inside your bedroom.
>>
>>
>> There must be an English word for such act. Either a verb, or an
>> adjective "being something". In Persian we have a short phrase for it
>> and a longer saying, not a succinct word (as far as i know - haven't
>> been in touch with those who're very good in Persian). But if there's
>> a word in English for the verb or adjective describing it, I cannot
>> find it in the dictionaries and thesauruses.
>>
>> If there's actually not an English word for it, then somebody needs to
>> create it cause that kind of act is getting pretty common in this land
>> of the brave, especially in news media and politics talk. It's even
>> seeping into completely unrelated media, like this COLA of yours.
>>
>> "facetious", for instance, comes just a bit close, but still is far
>> from an adjective for exactly that act. It really only describes a
>> tiny aspect of it.
>>
>> In psychology (I just referred to my outline of the course I made
>> decades back) the act is, in a limited way, recognized but doesn't
>> have a single word name. It uses two words which without the context
>> is difficult to understand the meaning (Confirmation Bias). It points
>> only to cases which the actor is also sincere, not when he
>> deliberately does it for gross omission of other aspects of the act
>> about which he's negatively sensitive. So, at least up to a few
>> decades back, I don't think English language had a single word for it.
>> But by now, there could well be one in use.
>>
>> Any of you Bozos know that word? If not, you're entitled to drop your
>> pants and finger yourselves while saying, "Mama, gimme som'dat milk".
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> An English phrase for it would be "obfuscating the culprit." Is there a
> single direct word for it?
>
>
>
>

There must at least be a legal term for it. A single word. It's got
enormous use!

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