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> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 02:36:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Yes. More reliable food supply. More varied sources of food and other
>> goods by trade. Greater chance of surviving medical conditions and
>> disabilities that would have immediately meant death for nomads--that
>> alone showed you that they had an easier life.
>
> Do you think the laborers building the pyramids had an easier life? That's
> the ultimate outcome of agriculture -- the haves and the havenots, the
> people on the hill and the one in the dark satanic mills.

And NFL-loving gun-totin' Trumpenproletariat.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 08:28:07 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> The C++ enum-class is scoped and strongly typed, thus a bit restrictive.
>> Implicit conversion (e.g. to int or char) is not supported.
>
> Since Python supports multiple inheritance, you can define a subclass
> which inherits from both enum and, say, int. Or enum and str.

Meh.

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On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 08:40:26 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
> royalties:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 08:28:07 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> The C++ enum-class is scoped and strongly typed, thus a bit
>>> restrictive.
>>> Implicit conversion (e.g. to int or char) is not supported.
>>
>> Since Python supports multiple inheritance, you can define a subclass
>> which inherits from both enum and, say, int. Or enum and str.
>
> Meh.

Along with C3 linearization?

Until C++ gets its own equivalent feature, then suddenly it’ll be not-meh.

You were a bit excited over metaclasses for a while back there, weren’t
you? Until you realized it would never work, because classes are not
objects in C++.

Le 02-04-2024, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> a écrit :
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 07:33:44 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Semitic languages are part of the Indo-European family, too.
>
> Only in the minority view of some linguists. The majority view is Proto-
> Afroasiatic and Proto-Indo-European are not related.

For real? There are some real linguists who see a relation between
Semitic and Indo-European languages? Other than political/religious
arguments? Other than Merritt RUHLEN and the like?

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Le 03-04-2024, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 13:59:18 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> Don't try to elevate DFS to the level of my dick.
>
> Hey, this isn’t comp.os.cocks.advocacy. Not COCA but COLA!

He's got a dick instead of a brain. It's visible all over his messages.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 08:40:26 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
>> royalties:
>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 08:28:07 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> The C++ enum-class is scoped and strongly typed, thus a bit
>>>> restrictive.
>>>> Implicit conversion (e.g. to int or char) is not supported.
>>>
>>> Since Python supports multiple inheritance, you can define a subclass
>>> which inherits from both enum and, say, int. Or enum and str.
>>
>> Meh.
>
> Along with C3 linearization?
>
> Until C++ gets its own equivalent feature, then suddenly it’ll be not-meh.

Heh heh. Another check-box in the feeeeeechure matrix.

> You were a bit excited over metaclasses for a while back there, weren’t
> you?

Not really excited, just curious. Having dealt with them (and stereotypes)
in SysML, not itching to have that in C++.

> Until you realized it would never work, because classes are not
> objects in C++.

:-D WTF you talkin', Willis? Ye nae true Scotman fallacy?

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On 2024-04-05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 15:42:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-02, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yup, back then, the Christian idea of “learning” was endlessly copying
>>> out intricately-illuminated Bibles ...
>>
>> Or so you claim.
>
> That’s a very, shall we say ... passive-aggressive way of putting it?
> Sounding almost like a denial, without actually coming out as an explicit
> denial?

It's basically what you'll see when people get tired of your snarky (shoot
from the hip) crap. Get used to it. It's more than your BS deserves.
Opinions are like ass*****, everyone has one. Facts are, apparently, a
little harder for you to come by. Somehow the the Christians "learned" to
make steel (that they fully can't replicate today) and build amazing
cathedrals that our modern society can't (or won't) match. For example
compare almost any of the cathedrals of Middle Aged Europe to the hideous
monstrosity called The Cathedral of Our Lady of Angels in L.A.

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On 2024-04-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 00:58:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Thank goodness for that. Because you realize that the transition to
>> agriculture improved the life spans of those societies, compared to the
>> older nomadic way of life.
>
> But did it improve the quality of life?

I think a lot of the Indian tribes grew more successful after getting horses
and becoming nomadic, rather than farmers. You can almost certainly say the
same for the Mongolians.

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On 2024-04-05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2024 05:09:07 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 02:36:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. More reliable food supply. More varied sources of food and other
>>> goods by trade. Greater chance of surviving medical conditions and
>>> disabilities that would have immediately meant death for nomads--that
>>> alone showed you that they had an easier life.
>>
>> Do you think the laborers building the pyramids had an easier life?
>
> Yup. Remember, they were doing it during the off-season, when there wasn’t
> any farming work to do. There is graffiti in the Pyramids recording the
> rivalry between teams--it was like a sporting competition, to see who was
> better at moving those blocks.
>
> The Ancient Egyptians had an easier life than their less civilized
> neighbours.

And I've got a bridge in... Baltimore you might be interested in buying.
A fixer uppper.

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On 2024-04-05, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 02:36:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. More reliable food supply. More varied sources of food and other
>>> goods by trade. Greater chance of surviving medical conditions and
>>> disabilities that would have immediately meant death for nomads--that
>>> alone showed you that they had an easier life.
>>
>> Do you think the laborers building the pyramids had an easier life? That's
>> the ultimate outcome of agriculture -- the haves and the havenots, the
>> people on the hill and the one in the dark satanic mills.
>
> And NFL-loving gun-totin' Trumpenproletariat.

I'm guessing the inner cities are not "Trump Country" and that's where most
of the "gun-toting" and killing thugs reside. But carry on, don't let
inconvenient facts get in your way, you might lose your Woke Card.

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On 06 Apr 2024 08:46:45 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> Le 02-04-2024, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> a écrit :
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 07:33:44 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Semitic languages are part of the Indo-European family, too.
>>
>> Only in the minority view of some linguists. The majority view is
>> Proto-
>> Afroasiatic and Proto-Indo-European are not related.
>
> For real? There are some real linguists who see a relation between
> Semitic and Indo-European languages? Other than political/religious
> arguments? Other than Merritt RUHLEN and the like?

There always are minority positions.

On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 14:22:07 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> On 2024-04-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 00:58:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Thank goodness for that. Because you realize that the transition to
>>> agriculture improved the life spans of those societies, compared to
>>> the older nomadic way of life.
>>
>> But did it improve the quality of life?
>
> I think a lot of the Indian tribes grew more successful after getting
> horses and becoming nomadic, rather than farmers. You can almost
> certainly say the same for the Mongolians.

Horses were an improvement but I think many were more or less nomadic in
the plains states and Rockies. Eastern tribes like the Iroquois were
agricultural and did better than the tribes further north where the
climate made agriculture iffy.

At times agriculture was self defeating. The Hohokam around Phoenix had a
large scale network of irrigation ditches. The theory is irrigation
increased the salinity of the soil to the point where it wouldn't support
agriculture. Casa Grande may have lasted longer but the course of the
river changed and for whatever reason it was abandoned.

The Pima had an interesting setup. The riverine Pima were settled and had
agriculture. The desert Pima were nomadic, although they did have places
where they built dams in the washes. If it rained, the catchment was
enough to grow a crop. If it didn't rain they were out of luck. In that
case they would go visit their riverine cousins, put on shows and dances,
and work for them until the next cycle. It was sort of a welfare program.

On 2024-04-06, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 14:22:07 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 00:58:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank goodness for that. Because you realize that the transition to
>>>> agriculture improved the life spans of those societies, compared to
>>>> the older nomadic way of life.
>>>
>>> But did it improve the quality of life?
>>
>> I think a lot of the Indian tribes grew more successful after getting
>> horses and becoming nomadic, rather than farmers. You can almost
>> certainly say the same for the Mongolians.
>
> Horses were an improvement but I think many were more or less nomadic in
> the plains states and Rockies. Eastern tribes like the Iroquois were
> agricultural and did better than the tribes further north where the
> climate made agriculture iffy.

I think the Comanches went from mostly farming (part of the Shoshone
tribes, I believe) to one of the most aggressive tribes on the plains.
Somehow they REALLY adapted to horse riding. More so than any other tribe.

> At times agriculture was self defeating. The Hohokam around Phoenix had a
> large scale network of irrigation ditches. The theory is irrigation
> increased the salinity of the soil to the point where it wouldn't support
> agriculture. Casa Grande may have lasted longer but the course of the
> river changed and for whatever reason it was abandoned.

Climate change ("'global' warming") has been happening for centuries. Must
have been all the bison farts that caused it in the old West. Who knew the
buffalo hunters were really trying to "save" the earth from climate change?

> The Pima had an interesting setup. The riverine Pima were settled and had
> agriculture. The desert Pima were nomadic, although they did have places
> where they built dams in the washes. If it rained, the catchment was
> enough to grow a crop. If it didn't rain they were out of luck. In that
> case they would go visit their riverine cousins, put on shows and dances,
> and work for them until the next cycle. It was sort of a welfare program.

That's interesting. The variety of Indian tribes in this country is (was)
amazing. I enjoy reading from the "Encyclopedia of Native American Tribes"
sometimes (more or less randomly) just because of that variety. I think the
book is basically published for school children so even I can follow along.

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 00:52:15 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I think the Comanches went from mostly farming (part of the Shoshone
> tribes, I believe) to one of the most aggressive tribes on the plains.
> Somehow they REALLY adapted to horse riding. More so than any other
> tribe.

That's a quick overview of the Shoshone. When you live in the Great Basin
you eat anything you can find. I don't know if they cultivated wild rice
or harvested it when they found it. They had a hard life. Horses were a
definite improvement over dogs.

> That's interesting. The variety of Indian tribes in this country is
> (was) amazing. I enjoy reading from the "Encyclopedia of Native American
> Tribes" sometimes (more or less randomly) just because of that variety.
> I think the book is basically published for school children so even I
> can follow along.

It wasn't the big happy family some people would have you believe and
still isn't to some extent. In this area the Blackfeet were a problem for
the more peaceful tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate_Canyon

Supposedly the name came from French trappers who came upon the skeletons
and other signs of mayhem and labeled it the gates of hell. If you're
headed for the buffalo ranges it's the easy way along the river otherwise
you're going to be doing a lot of mountaineering.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5586693

NPR throws a little spin on it but in all their travels the only time the
Lewis & Clark expedition found it necessary to shoot Indians was when they
ran into Blackfeet.

Back east the Iroquois were a similar problem for the Algonquins, Crees,
and the rest of the neighbors. 'The Last of the Mohicans' takes a lot of
liberties but the Mohawks, the eastern part of the Iroquois confederacy,
did a lot to make Mohicans scarce. The Hudson River was more or less the
dividing line.

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> On 2024-04-05, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 02:36:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. More reliable food supply. More varied sources of food and other
>>>> goods by trade. Greater chance of surviving medical conditions and
>>>> disabilities that would have immediately meant death for nomads--that
>>>> alone showed you that they had an easier life.
>>>
>>> Do you think the laborers building the pyramids had an easier life? That's
>>> the ultimate outcome of agriculture -- the haves and the havenots, the
>>> people on the hill and the one in the dark satanic mills.
>>
>> And NFL-loving gun-totin' Trumpenproletariat.
>
> I'm guessing the inner cities are not "Trump Country" and that's where most
> of the "gun-toting" and killing thugs reside. But carry on, don't let
> inconvenient facts get in your way, you might lose your Woke Card.

Cut the "woke" nonsense. And repeating simplistic statements. Jesus!

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462

The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.

That may have changed, of course. Some cities, such as St. Louis, do have a lot
of killings. But people are always making fun of Chicago for some reason.

You carryin', bro?

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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>
> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
> most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.

Because of a higher suicide rate. The rural counties have a far lower
homicide rate. From the above article:

"From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of
gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate
of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping’s analysis."

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chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>>
>> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
>> most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.
>
> Because of a higher suicide rate. The rural counties have a far lower
> homicide rate. From the above article:
>
> "From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of
> gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate
> of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping's analysis."

That's very comforting to know that gun-toters can commit both homicide and
suicide. :-*

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 09:50:51 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-
cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>
> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than
> the most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.

"From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of gun
homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate of gun
suicide deaths, according to Reeping’s analysis."

Left that part out, did you? I'd say there is a difference between
someone deciding to end their own life and having some thug deciding to
end it for them.

On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 11:55:11 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> That's very comforting to know that gun-toters can commit both homicide
> and suicide. :-*

Do you think people should be prevented from ending their own lives? Or
are you only opposed to certain methods?

On 4/7/24 10:30, chrisv wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>>
>> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
>> most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.
>
> Because of a higher suicide rate. The rural counties have a far lower
> homicide rate. From the above article:
>
> "From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of
> gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate
> of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping’s analysis."
>

That should have to do with ridiculous healthcare costs. It costs a few
cents to blow half of your head off, but millions if you leave your
death in the hands of hospitals.

Rural people are more sane.

On 4/7/24 10:55, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>>>
>>> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
>>> most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.
>>
>> Because of a higher suicide rate. The rural counties have a far lower
>> homicide rate. From the above article:
>>
>> "From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of
>> gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate
>> of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping's analysis."
>
> That's very comforting to know that gun-toters can commit both homicide and
> suicide. :-*
>

Until it gets closer to they're dealing with Nazis.

On 2024-04-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 00:52:15 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>
>> I think the Comanches went from mostly farming (part of the Shoshone
>> tribes, I believe) to one of the most aggressive tribes on the plains.
>> Somehow they REALLY adapted to horse riding. More so than any other
>> tribe.
>
> That's a quick overview of the Shoshone. When you live in the Great Basin
> you eat anything you can find. I don't know if they cultivated wild rice
> or harvested it when they found it. They had a hard life. Horses were a
> definite improvement over dogs.

Well some of them became "Comanches" while others stayed mostly peaceful in
Idaho, Wyoming and Utah.

>> That's interesting. The variety of Indian tribes in this country is
>> (was) amazing. I enjoy reading from the "Encyclopedia of Native American
>> Tribes" sometimes (more or less randomly) just because of that variety.
>> I think the book is basically published for school children so even I
>> can follow along.
>
> It wasn't the big happy family some people would have you believe and
> still isn't to some extent. In this area the Blackfeet were a problem for
> the more peaceful tribes.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate_Canyon
>
> Supposedly the name came from French trappers who came upon the skeletons
> and other signs of mayhem and labeled it the gates of hell. If you're
> headed for the buffalo ranges it's the easy way along the river otherwise
> you're going to be doing a lot of mountaineering.
>
> https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5586693
>
> NPR throws a little spin on it but in all their travels the only time the
> Lewis & Clark expedition found it necessary to shoot Indians was when they
> ran into Blackfeet.

When we lived in Great Falls my younger brother ran around with a guy that
was half Blackfoot (he had Blackfeet friends). One of his friends him told
him that the Blackfeet were always looking for a fight. If they "didn't have
anyone else to fight, they fought each other."

> Back east the Iroquois were a similar problem for the Algonquins, Crees,
> and the rest of the neighbors. 'The Last of the Mohicans' takes a lot of
> liberties but the Mohawks, the eastern part of the Iroquois confederacy,
> did a lot to make Mohicans scarce. The Hudson River was more or less the
> dividing line.

I've heard about the Iroquois. They didn't seem to be very "genteel."

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On 2024-04-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-04-05, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 02:36:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes. More reliable food supply. More varied sources of food and other
>>>>> goods by trade. Greater chance of surviving medical conditions and
>>>>> disabilities that would have immediately meant death for nomads--that
>>>>> alone showed you that they had an easier life.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think the laborers building the pyramids had an easier life? That's
>>>> the ultimate outcome of agriculture -- the haves and the havenots, the
>>>> people on the hill and the one in the dark satanic mills.
>>>
>>> And NFL-loving gun-totin' Trumpenproletariat.
>>
>> I'm guessing the inner cities are not "Trump Country" and that's where most
>> of the "gun-toting" and killing thugs reside. But carry on, don't let
>> inconvenient facts get in your way, you might lose your Woke Card.
>
> Cut the "woke" nonsense. And repeating simplistic statements. Jesus!
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>
> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
> most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.
>
> That may have changed, of course. Some cities, such as St. Louis, do have a lot
> of killings. But people are always making fun of Chicago for some reason.
>
> You carryin', bro?

Some cities... like St. Louis? How about Chicago, New Orleans, New York,
Baltimore, Los Angeles, Portland, Atlanta? Every week in Chicago death toll
from thug violence results in multiple deaths.

When they gather these "gun violence" statistics, they include suicide and
accidental shooting deaths. Not quite the same thing as thugs killing each
other, or innocent bystanders or victims.

By the way, figures don't lie, but liars figure.

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On 2024-04-07, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>>
>> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
>> most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.
>
> Because of a higher suicide rate. The rural counties have a far lower
> homicide rate. From the above article:
>
> "From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of
> gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate
> of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping’s analysis."

That's why they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
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On 2024-04-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462
>>>
>>> The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the
>>> most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.
>>
>> Because of a higher suicide rate. The rural counties have a far lower
>> homicide rate. From the above article:
>>
>> "From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of
>> gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate
>> of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping's analysis."
>
> That's very comforting to know that gun-toters can commit both homicide and
> suicide. :-*

I'm more worried about the ones who commit homicide. How about you?

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
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