Le 13-03-2024, Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
> It takes a bit of time, however. To properly "de-shitify" a Microslop
> system can require a few hours but it's well worth it.

« format C: » fast, simple and easy.

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Le 12-03-2024, Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> I have an in-depth knowledge of digital computation

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 00:18:11 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> rBowman:
>> Britain won the [Franco-Prussian] war and lost the Empire.
>
> Who won, Haiti ?

Britain was neutral in the Franco-Prussian war. They were quite happy to
see France knocked down a notch but were thrilled by German unification.
Britain always tried to play European countries against each other. Come
to think of it, they haven't stopped playing if the rumor that Boris
derailed a Ukrainian-Russian treaty is true.

The US is Britain on steroids without the diplomatic skills.

On 3/12/24 11:55 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 3/12/2024 3:20 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> Apphole is strongly preferred by most brain-dead females
>> and sodomites (a.k.a. homosexuals).
>
>
>
> Hahhahahh :-))
>
> I kind of think so too. For 45 fucking years I haven't understood what
> it is about it that attracts some people. The higher price of it? Then
> you ought to add masochists to your list as well.
>
> I think it works a bit like lipstick for its fans too :)
>

Choosing Apple was a deliberate informed decision, illustrated by the
old saying "Life is like a bullshit sandwich: the more bread you have,
the less bullshit you have to eat."

In the big scheme of things, I've found that the price premium is
actually favorable as its lifecycle costs are more favorable and thus,
it ends up being actually cheaper in the long run. Of course, unlike
many Linux fanboys (and Feeb in particular), this is because I actually
place a non-zero value on my time spent in upkeep of my IT systems.

And for those who want to defend their hours & hours spent twaddling
around with their gear to finally get something to work, if you consider
your time to do such things to not count as anything other than "free",
well I've got a lawn for you to mow...

-hh

On 3/12/24 2:16 PM, Nuxxie wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:43:52 -0400, -hh wrote:
>
>>
>> What we've seen with some Linux fanboy braggarts
>>
>
> Why thank you. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>
>>
>> is that one can write
>> very speedy code if one optimistically assumes that there's no on ever
>> doing anything malicious to hack into a system,
>>
>
> I can state, not optimistically but with absolute certainty, that there
> is/has/will no one ever doing anything malicious to hack into my system.
>
> Nope. Never has. Never will.

That you know of. Unfortunately, when your system is absent of security
crosschecks, you basically have no way of knowing.

>> so there's zero overhead
>> to validate/sandbox the inputs.
>>
>
> It's not just valdating the inputs but a plethora of other things that
> the distros enforct that really, truly, and unequivocally degrade the
> performance of system.

Sure, but one needs only but one simple example for simple minds.

> Distro lackeys, like you, are using deliberately crippled systems.

Where what "crippled" means is, of course, left conveniently vague.

>> Fortunately, CPU power now easily exceeds the 80% use case demands,
>>
>
> Not MY use case.

Oh, for you I agree: state of the shelf CPUs from a decade ago easily
exceeds 200% of what you actually use or need.

> But then that's just more excuse mongering from an idiot that is forced
> to use a crippled system and is helplessly trapped therein.

Allegedly "crippled"...which is still conveniently unspecified.

-hh

Le 16-03-2024, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> a écrit :
> And for those who want to defend their hours & hours spent twaddling
> around with their gear to finally get something to work, if you consider
> your time to do such things to not count as anything other than "free",
> well I've got a lawn for you to mow...

You really miss a lot of points. First, if you don't want to spend hours
to configure Linux, you just don't. You can use it out of the box. Then,
unlike Mac which needs to be done in Apple's way, with Linux you can, if
you want, change its behaviour to make it work as you want. It doesn't
require hours and hours of constant modifications but minutes from time
to time. And each minute invested is used times and times again, so I
really value my time and instead of keeping loosing time because of bad
design by others, I win time with having something that suits me. And
finely, you can use the time spend by others to start from something
almost ready to adapt it easily to your own needs. There's a lot of
configuration files and ideas to help you improve your configuration
effortlessly.

So yes, I value my time and my confort. And you didn't gave me anything
to mow because your way would make me lost a lot of time and comfort.

When I do something it's useful for a really long time. For example,
When I started to learn about tilling Windows Managers, it was with
wmii. Then I was able to use a lot of its configuration to switch to
i3wm. And then, it was the same with swaywm. So with the lot of
similarities between the WM, I used the same shortcuts and I didn't need
to learn anything new. For a very few time invested during the years.
Unlike Windows, which changed everything with each upgrade and I needed
a few months to find my way out each time.

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Le 16-03-2024, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> a écrit :
> On 3/12/24 2:16 PM, Nuxxie wrote:
>>
>> I can state, not optimistically but with absolute certainty, that there
>> is/has/will no one ever doing anything malicious to hack into my system.
>>
>> Nope. Never has. Never will.
>
> That you know of. Unfortunately, when your system is absent of security
> crosschecks, you basically have no way of knowing.

In a general sense, you are right, but in his case, it's probably true.
It's not really a computer that he's running. It's more like a useless
compiler with five versions of python. Any hack would be a waste of time
and probably didn't happened.

>> It's not just valdating the inputs but a plethora of other things that
>> the distros enforct that really, truly, and unequivocally degrade the
>> performance of system.
>
> Sure, but one needs only but one simple example for simple minds.

He's wrong, for some beginners distros he's almost right. Because for a
beginner, the distros are designed to help them without asking anything.
So everything is installed and running in case of it would be needed.
But there is nothing mandatory about it.

>> Distro lackeys, like you, are using deliberately crippled systems.
>
> Where what "crippled" means is, of course, left conveniently vague.

He's trying to use a distro, so he's trying to be a distro lackey.

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> Le 13-03-2024, Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>>
>> It takes a bit of time, however. To properly "de-shitify" a Microslop
>> system can require a few hours but it's well worth it.
>
> « format C: » fast, simple and easy.

I'd use fdisk, cfdisk, etc. :-)

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> On 3/12/24 11:55 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 3/12/2024 3:20 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> Apphole is strongly preferred by most brain-dead females
>>> and sodomites (a.k.a. homosexuals).
>>
>> Hahhahahh :-))
>>
>> I kind of think so too. For 45 fucking years I haven't understood what
>> it is about it that attracts some people. The higher price of it? Then
>> you ought to add masochists to your list as well.
>>
>> I think it works a bit like lipstick for its fans too :)
>
> Choosing Apple was a deliberate informed decision, illustrated by the
> old saying "Life is like a bullshit sandwich: the more bread you have,
> the less bullshit you have to eat."
>
> In the big scheme of things, I've found that the price premium is
> actually favorable as its lifecycle costs are more favorable and thus,
> it ends up being actually cheaper in the long run. Of course, unlike
> many Linux fanboys (and Feeb in particular), this is because I actually
> place a non-zero value on my time spent in upkeep of my IT systems.
>
> And for those who want to defend their hours & hours spent twaddling
> around with their gear to finally get something to work, if you consider
> your time to do such things to not count as anything other than "free",
> well I've got a lawn for you to mow...

Linux distros cover the full spectrum of maintenance time. Choose
your sweet spot.

You like Apple? And its hardware silo? Kool.

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On 3/16/2024 5:30 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 13-03-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> I had collected three links to information online to prove that,
>
> I didn't saw that.
>
>> then the above gentleman asked me for proof of it exactly as if he was
>> my boss and I owed him a million dollars that he knew I will never pay
>> him back.
>
> That I saw, but it's not like that. The purpose is to know if what you
> say can be trusted or not. With your answers, it's obvious it can't.
>
>> So I told him to dig for it himself.
>
> Exactly. It's enough to know your claims are false and don't need
> consideration.
>
>> Not you, and not anyone else here, will ever get those three links from
>> me.
>
> Yes of course. And when all you say is garbage, I'll have to trust your
> word on that particular point? No way.
>
> I don't know anything about physics and I thought it looked like you
> have some knowledge about it. But the more I read anything from you
> unrelated to physics, the more I see your knowledge is garbage and I
> believe more and more that your claims about physics are fucked up like
> everything else.
>
>> You'd have to go to ChrisV for that.
>
> He can't neither just because he won't be able to find something that
> doesn't exist.
>

Yes I see you want my dick's attention. My answer is no, it's too good
for you.

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On 3/16/2024 5:15 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 13-03-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> Torvalds himself said Linux allows that.
>
> Source?
>

ChrisV.

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On 3/16/2024 2:49 PM, -hh wrote:
> On 3/12/24 11:55 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 3/12/2024 3:20 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> Apphole is strongly preferred by most brain-dead females
>>> and sodomites (a.k.a. homosexuals).
>>
>>
>>
>> Hahhahahh :-))
>>
>> I kind of think so too. For 45 fucking years I haven't understood what
>> it is about it that attracts some people. The higher price of it? Then
>> you ought to add masochists to your list as well.
>>
>> I think it works a bit like lipstick for its fans too :)
>>
>
> Choosing Apple was a deliberate informed decision, illustrated by the
> old saying "Life is like a bullshit sandwich:  the more bread you have,
> the less bullshit you have to eat."
>
> In the big scheme of things, I've found that the price premium is
> actually favorable as its lifecycle costs are more favorable and thus,
> it ends up being actually cheaper in the long run.  Of course, unlike
> many Linux fanboys (and Feeb in particular), this is because I actually
> place a non-zero value on my time spent in upkeep of my IT systems.
>
> And for those who want to defend their hours & hours spent twaddling
> around with their gear to finally get something to work, if you consider
> your time to do such things to not count as anything other than "free",
> well I've got a lawn for you to mow...
>
>
> -hh

Yep. It falls almost perfectly into how Farley described it :) Not
literally, but then "literally" in this case wouldn't be "perfectly."

The "lipstick" also applies :)

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:49:44 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
wrote in <ut4t4o$32464$1@dont-email.me>:

> And for those who want to defend their hours & hours spent twaddling
> around with their gear to finally get something to work,

So who is doing that?

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Le 17-03-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Yes I see you want my dick's attention.

Why? I don't care about you or your dick. Half of your messages are long
boring tales I don't read. The other half are claims without ground.

> My answer is no, it's too good for you.

Yes, I know, your claims about Linux sharing data with NSA come right
from your imagination. I don't need more evidence.

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Le 17-03-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
> On 3/16/2024 5:15 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 13-03-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> Torvalds himself said Linux allows that.
>>
>> Source?
>
> ChrisV.

Yes, it's clear, the source is in your mind. Thanks for confirming you
have no idea about the way Linux is developed.

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Le 17-03-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:49:44 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
> wrote in <ut4t4o$32464$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> And for those who want to defend their hours & hours spent twaddling
>> around with their gear to finally get something to work,
>
> So who is doing that?

FR/LP/NV/DG/whatever. He's the only one. He's not a representative Linux
user. He's a Windows advocate trying to make Linux users passing for
fools. It looks like some take the bait.

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:49:44 -0400, -hh wrote:

>
> Choosing Apple was a deliberate informed decision, illustrated by the
> old saying "Life is like a bullshit sandwich: the more bread you have,
> the less bullshit you have to eat."
>

But the truly discerning connoisseur can always taste it.

Your gustatory sense, like your digital one, is truly inferior.

>
> Of course, unlike
> many Linux fanboys (and Feeb in particular), this is because I actually
> place a non-zero value on my time spent in upkeep of my IT systems.
>

Is that the reason why you seldom take a shower or brush your teeth?

>
> And for those who want to defend their hours & hours spent twaddling
> around with their gear to finally get something to work,
>

What this guy needs is "Sissy Linux:"

http://sissylinux.org

The motto of Sissy Linux is: "We make Linux just like Apple."

Here is a testimonial:

"I always use Sissy Linux to make fliers for my third-grade
bake sale. I don't have to know nothing. Sissy Linux just
works."

Little Lulu, Parker Elementary, Elixer Hts, IL

On 3/16/2024 1:31 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 13-03-2024, Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>>
>> It takes a bit of time, however. To properly "de-shitify" a Microslop
>> system can require a few hours but it's well worth it.
>
> « format C: » fast, simple and easy.

But then neither of you "advocates" would have jobs.

On 3/17/2024 5:47 AM, Lester Thorpe wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:49:44 -0400, -hh wrote:
>
>>
>> Choosing Apple was a deliberate informed decision, illustrated by the
>> old saying "Life is like a bullshit sandwich: the more bread you have,
>> the less bullshit you have to eat."
>>
>
> But the truly discerning connoisseur can always taste it.
>
> Your gustatory sense, like your digital one, is truly inferior.
>
>
>>
>> Of course, unlike
>> many Linux fanboys (and Feeb in particular), this is because I actually
>> place a non-zero value on my time spent in upkeep of my IT systems.
>>
>
> Is that the reason why you seldom take a shower or brush your teeth?
>
>
>>
>> And for those who want to defend their hours & hours spent twaddling
>> around with their gear to finally get something to work,
>>
>
> What this guy needs is "Sissy Linux:"
>
> http://sissylinux.org
>
> The motto of Sissy Linux is: "We make Linux just like Apple."
>
> Here is a testimonial:
>
> "I always use Sissy Linux to make fliers for my third-grade
> bake sale. I don't have to know nothing. Sissy Linux just
> works."
>
> Little Lulu, Parker Elementary, Elixer Hts, IL
>

Hahhahahh :-))

God forbid you fall out with someone. Brutal.

But those masochist groupies of yours desire it.

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On 3/12/24 5:29 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> -hh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 3/11/24 7:25 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>> I use Edge as a third browser under Linux, actually, it's not like I
>>> care about M$ software, having some philosophical need to purge it,
>>> it's specifically what is currently Win11, the bloat. But Edge under
>>> Linux is what I view my Hotmail/Outlook email with, and serves as a
>>> third browser with regard to logging in to a site on behalf of someone
>>> who visits me.
>>
>> The funny thing about 'bloat' is that it isn't necessarily a bad thing.
>
> Well, there's bloat due to good practise and there's bloat due to bad
> practise... Cue Windows.

There's a lot of conflicting priorities for code development &
maintenance, as most mainstream software is commercially sold, so its
costs to write, maintain and support are business expenses. An older
example of this was how Adobe got caught not supporting some MacOS
depreciations because they wanted to have just a single code base for
both Mac & Windows OSs because that's cheaper. Ditto for choosing to
not support specific hardware acceleration opportunities: it costs more.

>
> My gawd, GIMP on Linux is a second or two for the launch. On Windows it
> is that time just to know that your click worked.
>

Except for when it isn't. Launch time really doesn't mean all that much
anymore IMO, as its not an all that frequently repeated of an activity
(especially with adequate RAM), plus also because some software vendors
have manipulated their code to put the UI up quickly so that it looks
ready while it technically isn't yet - YMMV as to how much this design
decision is manipulating user perceptions.

-hh

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:12:16 -0400, -hh wrote:

> plus also because some software vendors
> have manipulated their code to put the UI up quickly so that it looks
> ready while it technically isn't yet
>

This is known as "just in time" compilation and is standard
practice on thst junk Microslop Winblows. Instead of distributing
binaries, like on GNU/Linux,they will package byte code and then
compile all or portions of it on demand.

Naked inefficiency and bloat is Microslop.

Only the deranged run Microslop.

Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> wrote at 15:28 this Monday (GMT):
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:12:16 -0400, -hh wrote:
>
>> plus also because some software vendors
>> have manipulated their code to put the UI up quickly so that it looks
>> ready while it technically isn't yet
>>
>
> This is known as "just in time" compilation and is standard
> practice on thst junk Microslop Winblows. Instead of distributing
> binaries, like on GNU/Linux,they will package byte code and then
> compile all or portions of it on demand.
>
> Naked inefficiency and bloat is Microslop.
>
> Only the deranged run Microslop.

So all/most Windows apps are secretly Java?
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> On 3/12/24 5:29 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> My gawd, GIMP on Linux is a second or two for the launch. On Windows it
>> is that time just to know that your click worked.
>
> Except for when it isn't. Launch time really doesn't mean all that much
> anymore IMO, as its not an all that frequently repeated of an activity
> (especially with adequate RAM), ...

I prefer a faster launch time when I am eager to edit a PNG.

> plus also because some software vendors
> have manipulated their code to put the UI up quickly so that it looks
> ready while it technically isn't yet - YMMV as to how much this design
> decision is manipulating user perceptions.

The thing about GIMP on Windows is that, until I got used to how slow it was to
even make something appear, I would end up with two copies of GIMP running.
And maybe get an error like: "Error renaming temporary file: Permission
denied".

For using, using Windows is like being pecked to death by ducks.

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Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:12:16 -0400, -hh wrote:
>
>> plus also because some software vendors
>> have manipulated their code to put the UI up quickly so that it looks
>> ready while it technically isn't yet
>
>This is known as "just in time" compilation and is standard
>practice on thst junk Microslop Winblows. Instead of distributing
>binaries, like on GNU/Linux,they will package byte code and then
>compile all or portions of it on demand.
>
>Naked inefficiency and bloat is Microslop.
>
>Only the deranged run Microslop.

You seem to have completely missed what -hh was referring to.

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Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
>Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> wrote at 15:28 this Monday (GMT):
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:12:16 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>
>>> plus also because some software vendors
>>> have manipulated their code to put the UI up quickly so that it looks
>>> ready while it technically isn't yet
>>
>> This is known as "just in time" compilation and is standard
>> practice on thst junk Microslop Winblows. Instead of distributing
>> binaries, like on GNU/Linux,they will package byte code and then
>> compile all or portions of it on demand.
>>
>> Naked inefficiency and bloat is Microslop.
>>
>> Only the deranged run Microslop.
>
>So all/most Windows apps are secretly Java?

I'm pretty sure Russell is just plain wrong, on this one.

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Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.