rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:23:55 -0700, % wrote:
>
>> what does it say
>
> Google broken?
>
> https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an03/an03.065.soma.html
>
> If you search you might see either sutra or sutta. The former is Sanskrit
> and the latter is Pali. Mahayana uses sutra so you will see 'Diamond
> Sutra'. The Pali canon is associated with Theravada which is sort of old
> school, fundamentalist Buddhism.
>
why would anyone say that

RabidPedagog wrote:
> On 2024-02-16 8:59 a.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 2/15/2024 11:52 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>>>>
>>>> I'm fairly certain the feeling is mutual.
>>>
>>>
>>> 26Jesus answered, “[...] 27Do not work for food that spoils, but for
>>> food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you.
>>> For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”
>>>
>>> I answer to no one.
>>
>>
>> What about the voices in your head?
>
> The ones telling him that he's a sexy beast with a strong body that can
> vanquish any foe? Yeah, I imagine they have an opinion.
>
is your google broken

RabidPedagog wrote:
> On 2024-02-16 10:01 a.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 2/16/2024 9:40 AM, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm down to using the beloved MacOS on the laptop
>>
>> Is the b-word really appropriate for MacOS?
>
> It is. Everything in it makes sense, is intuitive and rock solid. The
> only thing missing is the gliding feature on the trackpad where the
> cursor continues moving if you've reached the end of the physical
> trackpad. Synaptics touchpads have it, Macs don't.
>
>>> and Windows on the gaming laptop I have at home that is constantly
>>> connected to a dock and a 27" screen.
>>
>> So you decided to support the "pedophile software" after all?
>>
>> What games do you recommend?  I had my eye on Red Dead Redemption 2.
>
> It's a pedophile OS, but it doesn't bug me to configure my games like
> Linux does and I don't sacrifice framerates. I haven't gotten too far in
> Red Dead Redemption 2 (three hours), so I can't say much but I can
> _always_ recommend the Borderlands games. I don't think games can be any
> more fun than those. I also had an absolute blast with Brotato. Add me
> on Steam if you want.
>
>>> I love Linux but don't see a use for it considering what my habits are.
>>
>> I like Linux (via WSL) for command-line coding, mostly in C.  That's
>> about it.
>
> I like the fact that it doesn't feel as though there's a layer between
> me and the software I'm using surveilling me at all times. Some might
> call it paranoia, but it's not. Rob Braxman on Rumble makes a very good
> case for how corporations are _constantly_ spying on everything we do.
>
>>> The only homosexual in this newsgroup is Joel Crump and he is clearly
>>> so considering he has deluded himself into believe that the
>>> equally-deluded man with a dick who believes himself to be a woman is
>>> his girlfriend.
>>
>> Transgenderism and believing it's real are both serious mental
>> illnesses, no doubt.
>
> And I unfortunately work in a field where the administration is likely
> going to demand that I push this shit on my students eventually. Once
> they do, I'm seeking a lawyer.
>
you can't afford a lawyer

Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 2/15/2024 11:08 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>>>
>>> I'm fairly certain the feeling is mutual.
>>
>> bwa!
>
>
> I never used money collected from congregants to silence sex abuse
> victims, so, they can take that mutual disdain for me and shove it up
> Francis' God damn ass.
>
you're such an angry little homo

% <precent@yahoo.net> wrote:
>Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/15/2024 11:08 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>>>>
>>>> I'm fairly certain the feeling is mutual.
>>>
>>> bwa!
>>
>> I never used money collected from congregants to silence sex abuse
>> victims, so, they can take that mutual disdain for me and shove it up
>> Francis' God damn ass.
>>
>you're such an angry little homo

You're such a coward.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:

> Catholicism is an abomination.

I think you are free to believe in whatever sky fairies you like.

The trouble comes when you start insisting your sky fairy is the only true
sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false.

That is not the path to religious tolerance.

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:48:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> On 2024-02-16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 07:15:32 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> Only the Church had the authority (passed down through Jesus and His
>>> apostles) to decided which were which.
>>
>> And who gave this “Church” of yours the authority?
>
> Jesus, the Son of God.
>
>> Only documents produced by the “Church” itself.
>
> Written by the Apostles, ordained by the Son of God or other Apostles
> with the authority given to them by the Son of God.

Only said so in documents offered by the “Church” itself.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>
>I think you are free to believe in whatever sky fairies you like.
>
>The trouble comes when you start insisting your sky fairy is the only true
>sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false.
>
>That is not the path to religious tolerance.

Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:18:02 -0500, Joel wrote:

> Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.

Without the Catholic Church Christianity would have died on the vine not
the cross.

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.
>
>Without the Catholic Church Christianity would have died on the vine not
>the cross.

I don't care. It's Eurocentric, anti-spiritual, corrupt, inconsistent
with Jesus' teachings. Francis is a sellout. I have no beef with RCC
believers and clergy who are sincere individuals, though, and I
respect a lot of Catholic charity work.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 21:36:35 -0500, Joel wrote:

> I don't care. It's Eurocentric, anti-spiritual, corrupt, inconsistent
> with Jesus' teachings. Francis is a sellout. I have no beef with RCC
> believers and clergy who are sincere individuals, though, and I respect
> a lot of Catholic charity work.

All those African bishops who are pissed at Francis, who isn't from
Europe, would disagree. We can agree on Francis and most of the popes
since 1962. I had hopes for Benedict but he got tired of trying to shovel
out the Augean stables single handed.

On 2024-02-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:
>
>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>
> I think you are free to believe in whatever sky fairies you like.
>
> The trouble comes when you start insisting your sky fairy is the only true
> sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false.

You and your sky fairies. Get help.

> That is not the path to religious tolerance.

Toleration is external. You allow people to believe what they want, even
when it's wrong. Toleration allows free will. But if you really believe that
others can be right when they directly oppose the truths taught by your
religion, that's not tolerance, that's capitulation. Either you believe in
the truth of your religion, or you don't. If you don't, you really don't
believe in anything.

Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no one comes unto the
Father but by Me." No middle ground here.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-02-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:48:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2024-02-16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 07:15:32 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Only the Church had the authority (passed down through Jesus and His
>>>> apostles) to decided which were which.
>>>
>>> And who gave this “Church” of yours the authority?
>>
>> Jesus, the Son of God.
>>
>>> Only documents produced by the “Church” itself.
>>
>> Written by the Apostles, ordained by the Son of God or other Apostles
>> with the authority given to them by the Son of God.
>
> Only said so in documents offered by the “Church” itself.

The only Christian documents available from that time, since the Catholic
Church was the only Christian Church.

What suddenly triggered you to rant about religion again? I've got a feeling
this is one of your standard obsessions.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-02-28 8:56 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:18:02 -0500, Joel wrote:
>
>
>> Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.
>
> Without the Catholic Church Christianity would have died on the vine not
> the cross.

Not necessarily. Much like Zoroastrianism, it would have had small
pockets of devout in some areas of the world.

--
RabidPedagog

On 2024-02-29 2:54 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-02-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>>
>> I think you are free to believe in whatever sky fairies you like.
>>
>> The trouble comes when you start insisting your sky fairy is the only true
>> sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false.
>
> You and your sky fairies. Get help.
>
>> That is not the path to religious tolerance.
>
> Toleration is external. You allow people to believe what they want, even
> when it's wrong. Toleration allows free will. But if you really believe that
> others can be right when they directly oppose the truths taught by your
> religion, that's not tolerance, that's capitulation. Either you believe in
> the truth of your religion, or you don't. If you don't, you really don't
> believe in anything.
>
> Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no one comes unto the
> Father but by Me." No middle ground here.

Joel Crump will have lots of time to think about which faith was the
right one when he dies and demons come to drag him to Hell. As far as I
know, no religion allows for homosexuality of any kind.

--
RabidPedagog

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> On 2024-02-29 2:54 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-02-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>>>
>>> I think you are free to believe in whatever sky fairies you like.
>>>
>>> The trouble comes when you start insisting your sky fairy is the only true
>>> sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false.
>>
>> You and your sky fairies. Get help.
>>
>>> That is not the path to religious tolerance.
>>
>> Toleration is external. You allow people to believe what they want, even
>> when it's wrong. Toleration allows free will. But if you really believe that
>> others can be right when they directly oppose the truths taught by your
>> religion, that's not tolerance, that's capitulation. Either you believe in
>> the truth of your religion, or you don't. If you don't, you really don't
>> believe in anything.
>>
>> Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no one comes unto the
>> Father but by Me." No middle ground here.
>
> Joel Crump will have lots of time to think about which faith was the
> right one when he dies and demons come to drag him to Hell. As far as I
> know, no religion allows for homosexuality of any kind.

No one is getting dragged to Hell.

No need for it anyway, we've got nice pockets of it on Earth.

--
The better part of valor is discretion.
-- William Shakespeare, "Henry IV"

On 2024-02-29, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-02-29 2:54 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>>>>
>>>> I think you are free to believe in whatever sky fairies you like.
>>>>
>>>> The trouble comes when you start insisting your sky fairy is the only true
>>>> sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false.
>>>
>>> You and your sky fairies. Get help.
>>>
>>>> That is not the path to religious tolerance.
>>>
>>> Toleration is external. You allow people to believe what they want, even
>>> when it's wrong. Toleration allows free will. But if you really believe that
>>> others can be right when they directly oppose the truths taught by your
>>> religion, that's not tolerance, that's capitulation. Either you believe in
>>> the truth of your religion, or you don't. If you don't, you really don't
>>> believe in anything.
>>>
>>> Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no one comes unto the
>>> Father but by Me." No middle ground here.
>>
>> Joel Crump will have lots of time to think about which faith was the
>> right one when he dies and demons come to drag him to Hell. As far as I
>> know, no religion allows for homosexuality of any kind.
>
> No one is getting dragged to Hell.

And you know this... how? By faith?

> No need for it anyway, we've got nice pockets of it on Earth.

Nothing on Earth equals hell. Although a lot evil bastards seem to be
"hellbent" on making Earth as hell-like as they can. As an atheist friend
once said, "the lowest depths of hell are reserved for pedophiles." Never
mind the contradiction, I think he got it right.

1 At that hour the disciples came to Jesus, saying: Who thinkest thou is
the greater in the kingdom of heaven? 2 And Jesus calling unto him a
little child, set him in the midst of them, 3 And said: Amen I say to
you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall
not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble
himself as this little child, he is the greater in the kingdom of heaven.
5 And he that shall receive one such little child in my name, receiveth
me. 6 But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe
in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his
neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe to the
world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but
nevertheless woe to that man by whom the scandal cometh. —St. Matthew 18.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 07:37:59 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:

> On 2024-02-28 8:56 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:18:02 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.
>>
>> Without the Catholic Church Christianity would have died on the vine
>> not the cross.
>
> Not necessarily. Much like Zoroastrianism, it would have had small
> pockets of devout in some areas of the world.

Run into any Mithraists lately? It had been a widespread religion with
ties to Zoroastrianism but didn't survive Theodosius.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraeum

afaik there isn't any attempt to revive it unlike several of the other
pre-Christian religions. It's an open question if it had any impact on the
development of Christianity. Julian had attempted to bring it back but he
was the last pagan emperor.

I've had a discussion in another forum about Rust and its chance of
success. PL/I and Ada had similar aspirations but remain on the fringes.
Why one computer language takes off and another is condemned to obscurity
is similar to religion.

I'll offend everyone by saying the premises of all religions, with the
possible exception of old school Buddhism, are extremely unlikely. Most
have the aura of history but how does a modern offering like LDS survive
and thrive? Falun Gong? Scientology? Some have a foot up when they are
adopted by the powerful like Christianity and others are more of a grass
roots movement.

RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-02-29, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-29 2:54 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-02-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you are free to believe in whatever sky fairies you like.
>>>>>
>>>>> The trouble comes when you start insisting your sky fairy is the only true
>>>>> sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false.
>>>>
>>>> You and your sky fairies. Get help.
>>>>
>>>>> That is not the path to religious tolerance.
>>>>
>>>> Toleration is external. You allow people to believe what they want, even
>>>> when it's wrong. Toleration allows free will. But if you really believe that
>>>> others can be right when they directly oppose the truths taught by your
>>>> religion, that's not tolerance, that's capitulation. Either you believe in
>>>> the truth of your religion, or you don't. If you don't, you really don't
>>>> believe in anything.
>>>>
>>>> Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no one comes unto the
>>>> Father but by Me." No middle ground here.
>>>
>>> Joel Crump will have lots of time to think about which faith was the
>>> right one when he dies and demons come to drag him to Hell. As far as I
>>> know, no religion allows for homosexuality of any kind.
>>
>> No one is getting dragged to Hell.
>
> And you know this... how? By faith?

You ever seen anyone getting dragged to hell?
Hell, I don't even know where it is.
Never seen one damn peer-reviewed paper about it.

>> No need for it anyway, we've got nice pockets of it on Earth.
>
> Nothing on Earth equals hell. Although a lot evil bastards seem to be
> "hellbent" on making Earth as hell-like as they can. As an atheist friend
> once said, "the lowest depths of hell are reserved for pedophiles." Never
> mind the contradiction, I think he got it right.
>
> 1 At that hour the disciples came to Jesus, saying: Who thinkest thou is
> the greater in the kingdom of heaven? 2 And Jesus calling unto him a
> little child, set him in the midst of them, 3 And said: Amen I say to
> you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall
> not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble
> himself as this little child, he is the greater in the kingdom of heaven.
> 5 And he that shall receive one such little child in my name, receiveth
> me. 6 But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe
> in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his
> neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe to the
> world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but
> nevertheless woe to that man by whom the scandal cometh. —St. Matthew 18.

Better to be sure, and make the bastard's life hell on Earth.

ObLinux:

https://linuxhell.com/

Welcome to Linux Hell

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Q: What is the name of the world's oldest kamikaze pilot?

RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:

>Joel Crump will have lots of time to think about which faith was the
>right one when he dies and demons come to drag him to Hell. As far as I
>know, no religion allows for homosexuality of any kind.

That kind of stupidity is how you're transparently delusional, Jesus
said about me that Yahweh gives me his "seal of approval". That's
pretty strong words to say about one individual 2000 years in the
fucking future. Clearly, my bisexuality and trans woman attraction
doesn't send me to this imaginary "hell".

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-02-29 1:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 07:37:59 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> On 2024-02-28 8:56 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:18:02 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.
>>>
>>> Without the Catholic Church Christianity would have died on the vine
>>> not the cross.
>>
>> Not necessarily. Much like Zoroastrianism, it would have had small
>> pockets of devout in some areas of the world.
>
> Run into any Mithraists lately? It had been a widespread religion with
> ties to Zoroastrianism but didn't survive Theodosius.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraeum
>
> afaik there isn't any attempt to revive it unlike several of the other
> pre-Christian religions. It's an open question if it had any impact on the
> development of Christianity. Julian had attempted to bring it back but he
> was the last pagan emperor.
>
> I've had a discussion in another forum about Rust and its chance of
> success. PL/I and Ada had similar aspirations but remain on the fringes.
> Why one computer language takes off and another is condemned to obscurity
> is similar to religion.
>
> I'll offend everyone by saying the premises of all religions, with the
> possible exception of old school Buddhism, are extremely unlikely. Most
> have the aura of history but how does a modern offering like LDS survive
> and thrive? Falun Gong? Scientology? Some have a foot up when they are
> adopted by the powerful like Christianity and others are more of a grass
> roots movement.

Since you brought up Rust and since I don't program at all, I have to
wonder why people are so reluctant to adopt Rust if it indeed has
built-in memory protections.

--
RabidPedagog
Catholic paleoconservative

RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote at 21:35 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 2024-02-29 1:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 07:37:59 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-28 8:56 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:18:02 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.
>>>>
>>>> Without the Catholic Church Christianity would have died on the vine
>>>> not the cross.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. Much like Zoroastrianism, it would have had small
>>> pockets of devout in some areas of the world.
>>
>> Run into any Mithraists lately? It had been a widespread religion with
>> ties to Zoroastrianism but didn't survive Theodosius.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraeum
>>
>> afaik there isn't any attempt to revive it unlike several of the other
>> pre-Christian religions. It's an open question if it had any impact on the
>> development of Christianity. Julian had attempted to bring it back but he
>> was the last pagan emperor.
>>
>> I've had a discussion in another forum about Rust and its chance of
>> success. PL/I and Ada had similar aspirations but remain on the fringes.
>> Why one computer language takes off and another is condemned to obscurity
>> is similar to religion.
>>
>> I'll offend everyone by saying the premises of all religions, with the
>> possible exception of old school Buddhism, are extremely unlikely. Most
>> have the aura of history but how does a modern offering like LDS survive
>> and thrive? Falun Gong? Scientology? Some have a foot up when they are
>> adopted by the powerful like Christianity and others are more of a grass
>> roots movement.
>
> Since you brought up Rust and since I don't program at all, I have to
> wonder why people are so reluctant to adopt Rust if it indeed has
> built-in memory protections.

The devs are controversial.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
> On 2024-02-29 2:54 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-02-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:46:53 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catholicism is an abomination.
>>>
>>> I think you are free to believe in whatever sky fairies you like.
>>>
>>> The trouble comes when you start insisting your sky fairy is the only true
>>> sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false.
>>
>> You and your sky fairies. Get help.
>>
>>> That is not the path to religious tolerance.
>>
>> Toleration is external. You allow people to believe what they want, even
>> when it's wrong. Toleration allows free will. But if you really believe that
>> others can be right when they directly oppose the truths taught by your
>> religion, that's not tolerance, that's capitulation. Either you believe in
>> the truth of your religion, or you don't. If you don't, you really don't
>> believe in anything.
>>
>> Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no one comes unto the
>> Father but by Me." No middle ground here.
>
> Joel Crump will have lots of time to think about which faith was the
> right one when he dies and demons come to drag him to Hell. As far as I
> know, no religion allows for homosexuality of any kind.
>

IIRC, Pastafarians do.

-hh

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> On 2024-02-29 1:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 07:37:59 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-28 8:56 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:18:02 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.
>>>>
>>>> Without the Catholic Church Christianity would have died on the vine
>>>> not the cross.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. Much like Zoroastrianism, it would have had small
>>> pockets of devout in some areas of the world.
>>
>> Run into any Mithraists lately? It had been a widespread religion with
>> ties to Zoroastrianism but didn't survive Theodosius.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraeum
>>
>> afaik there isn't any attempt to revive it unlike several of the other
>> pre-Christian religions. It's an open question if it had any impact on the
>> development of Christianity. Julian had attempted to bring it back but he
>> was the last pagan emperor.
>>
>> I've had a discussion in another forum about Rust and its chance of
>> success. PL/I and Ada had similar aspirations but remain on the fringes.
>> Why one computer language takes off and another is condemned to obscurity
>> is similar to religion.
>>
>> I'll offend everyone by saying the premises of all religions, with the
>> possible exception of old school Buddhism, are extremely unlikely. Most
>> have the aura of history but how does a modern offering like LDS survive
>> and thrive? Falun Gong? Scientology? Some have a foot up when they are
>> adopted by the powerful like Christianity and others are more of a grass
>> roots movement.
>
> Since you brought up Rust and since I don't program at all, I have to
> wonder why people are so reluctant to adopt Rust if it indeed has
> built-in memory protections.

For my part, I like C++'s flexibility and for providing protections that a
smart programmer can use. For example, RAII (resource allocation is
initialization). You make sure that your constructors are exception-safe and
that destructors remove any items allocated in the constructor. Use the stack,
avoid operator new () as much as possible, unless you use pointer wrappers
like shared_ptr<> and unique_ptr<>. Heck, C++ now has garbage collection should
you not care about a non-deterministic handling of memory. I'm relatively sure
that there is no more flexible language. Not C#, and not Java.

When I write code, I immediately follow the writing of object allocation with
the writing of object deallocation, if necessary.

I still want to understand newer C++ constructs such as promises and futures.
I'm not sure the C++ book market is keeping up, with the "retirement" of Scott
Meyers. I have started to use lambdas... nothing like being able too look up a
lambda function using a MIDI control status or a keystroke. Beats the snot out
of a buncha "ifs" or a bigass "switch" statement.

Currently the latest code I'm working requires C++17. No C++20, and it is now
2024.

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On 2024-02-29 4:55 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
> RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote at 21:35 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On 2024-02-29 1:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 07:37:59 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-02-28 8:56 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:18:02 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian theology is true, Catholicism is a corruption of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without the Catholic Church Christianity would have died on the vine
>>>>> not the cross.
>>>>
>>>> Not necessarily. Much like Zoroastrianism, it would have had small
>>>> pockets of devout in some areas of the world.
>>>
>>> Run into any Mithraists lately? It had been a widespread religion with
>>> ties to Zoroastrianism but didn't survive Theodosius.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraeum
>>>
>>> afaik there isn't any attempt to revive it unlike several of the other
>>> pre-Christian religions. It's an open question if it had any impact on the
>>> development of Christianity. Julian had attempted to bring it back but he
>>> was the last pagan emperor.
>>>
>>> I've had a discussion in another forum about Rust and its chance of
>>> success. PL/I and Ada had similar aspirations but remain on the fringes.
>>> Why one computer language takes off and another is condemned to obscurity
>>> is similar to religion.
>>>
>>> I'll offend everyone by saying the premises of all religions, with the
>>> possible exception of old school Buddhism, are extremely unlikely. Most
>>> have the aura of history but how does a modern offering like LDS survive
>>> and thrive? Falun Gong? Scientology? Some have a foot up when they are
>>> adopted by the powerful like Christianity and others are more of a grass
>>> roots movement.
>>
>> Since you brought up Rust and since I don't program at all, I have to
>> wonder why people are so reluctant to adopt Rust if it indeed has
>> built-in memory protections.
>
> The devs are controversial.

Do they believe in two genders?

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