MR> So what do you guys think would happen if biden dies before the election?
MR> do you think kamala would take over? she's not smart enough for the job,
MR> but neither was biden. if she was smart she would say no. maybe she
MR> would just be a younger puppet.

I mean... yes - I think she would take over and do a similar job as Biden has... but she would certainly lose ANY re-election.

To be perfectly honest, I wish we had two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT options than Biden v Trump... I wish Biden would step aside already [freaking 10 months ago!] and push someone very strong. Not the CA gov, not RFK... Obama, Clinton - someone the young ppl and dems can get behind.

And I wish Amerikkka would see that Trump was a joke the 1st time - and really isn't a great choice now. He's going to come in hot and heavy and give it 111% the entire 4 years - he's going to press things in ways we've never seen and if I were in his position I would too - but it isn't going to be great for America.

I think we'll see another Biden v Trump, tho - and I think if the dems get voting like they did in the last they have a good shot... and if Amerikkka is pissed enough that we put Trump in again; hold on.

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: paulie420 to MRO on Mon Nov 20 2023 07:15 pm

>
> And I wish Amerikkka would see that Trump was a joke the 1st time - and
> really isn't a great choice now. He's going to come in hot and heavy and
> give it 111% the entire 4 years - he's going to press things in ways we've
> never seen and if I were in his position I would too - but it isn't going to
> be great for America.
>

Actually I was surprised about what a great job he did. He was an outsider and made great improvements. his problem was his mouth. he trolled his way to the white house and he continued to troll. now he's different. he's cooled his jets while destroying his enemies since he lost the election. He literally does not stop. He has been traveling just about every week making sure his enemies do not get re-elected and it's working.

Trump showed that an outsider can do a much better job than career politicians.
He did what obama thought was impossible, more than once.

Trump knows how to deal with people and he knows how to run the country.
We had no wars under trump. With everyone else we had wars.

Furthermore, trump exposed how the media controls us and how pharm companies buy our politicians. he literally called people out about it to their face while standing infront of thousands.

Dude's a force of nature. He doesn't drink or smoke. he sleeps a few hrs a night and eats junk food all day. Trump terrifies his enemies.
They can't even shut up about him after he is gone. He's dancing around in their heads to this day.

Not only that, Trump is the most tech savvy president EVER. Dude had burner phones to get on twitter after they took his phone away. Biden has like 5 people who have been named who post as him on social media. With Trump, that was that motherfucker doing it all.

I don't even believe obama and his 'I can't live without my blackberry' story.

Right now polls show that trump has great numbers. Nobody is happy with biden.
We really don't have anybody else that are good candidates for the next election.

I think our entire system needs to be gutted and redone. we need term limits for all positions in the govt. There's a lot of corruption. People that make 125-150k a year are fucking multimillionares.

I think we should take all the politicians and hang them. They're total garbage.
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MR> Actually I was surprised about what a great job he did.

Tax cuts for the rich? Dialing in tax increases for the middle class
over the next several years? Increasing the debt by 8 trillion dollars?
Mishandling covid? Inciting a resurrection? Being impeached twice?

Please clarify.

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Tue Nov 21 2023 07:26 am

> -=> MRO wrote to paulie420 <=-
>
> MR> Actually I was surprised about what a great job he did.
>
> Tax cuts for the rich? Dialing in tax increases for the middle class
> over the next several years? Increasing the debt by 8 trillion dollars?
> Mishandling covid? Inciting a resurrection? Being impeached twice?
>
> Please clarify.
>

first off, lets point out that you are the dumbass who voted for biden.
and now you're talking about trump tax increases and increasing debt.
and mishandling covid.

i am paying less taxes thanks to trump and the govt is taking less of my money each year that is essentially an interest free loan.

what is the correct way to handle covid? we never dealt with anything like it before. he did what the experts told him to do. that's all he could have done.
people are fools.

The only thing we could have done to combat covid is to eliminate travel and
let it run its course. nothing we did or could have done would have made any difference.

futhermore, this 'insurrection' is laughable. it was essentially a guided tour with permission.

i WISH there was in insurrection. there was not. and trump did not incite anything. we have a right to peaceful protesting.

They could impeach him 1000 times. they would never have anything that stuck.

So, why were you an idiot that voted for a racist, senile man who can be bought?
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> The only thing we could have done to combat covid is to eliminate travel and
> let it run its course. nothing we did or could have done would have made any
> fference.

Which he suggested, but politicians of a certain party cried foul and would
not let him.

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> Inciting a resurrection?

Wait? Trump caused Jesus to come back?!?

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Nov 22 2023 09:45 am

> > The only thing we could have done to combat covid is to eliminate travel
> > and let it run its course. nothing we did or could have done would have
> > made any fference.
>
> Which he suggested, but politicians of a certain party cried foul and would
> not let him.
>
>

yeah they called him a racist for suggesting it.

regardless, covid was here sooner than we thought. I'm pretty sure it was
here the previous year in oct-nov-dec. My friend got it in december and he was almost fired. We had a guy who died in early december. We're pretty sure he had it.

usa and the rest of the world did not have an established gameplan for a pandemic despite having the swine flu and bird flu.

So what Kurt said was basically the usual liberal mindless parroting with no facts. And then he's saying trump gave tax cuts to evil corporations. liberals think all companies are evil. where would we be without places to work?
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MR> first off, lets point out that you are the dumbass who voted for biden.
MR> and now you're talking about trump tax increases and increasing debt.
MR> and mishandling covid.

The Ignorant Elitists have no self-awareness.

MR> what is the correct way to handle covid?

By not letting the gov't get involved. Everything, without exception, that
they did failed.

MR> we never dealt with anything like it before.

That's because 100% of what we were told about COVID was a lie.

MR> he did what the experts told him to do. that's all he
MR> could have done. people are fools.

We were fools. We now see that the "experts" aren't.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

MR> So, why were you an idiot that voted for a racist, senile man who can
MR> be bought?

Because he's an Ignorant Elitists who can't think for himself and only does
what his masters say.

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> Inciting a resurrection?

DW> Wait? Trump caused Jesus to come back?!?

Hallelujah!

Praise the Lord
And pass the ammunition

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: Dr. What to MRO on Thu Nov 23 2023 08:01 am

>
> MR> what is the correct way to handle covid?
>
> By not letting the gov't get involved. Everything, without exception, that
> they did failed.
>

everything people did failed too. we all went to home depot and walmart
500% more.

if we would have eliminated international travel it would have made a huge difference.

That being said people were traveling all over to other states and spreading it.

The woman i live with couldnt stop herself from going to see her family once a week in another state even though everyone thought covid was the plague.

we basically have no plan in place to stop the spread of a contagious disease.
we still do not.

there were some smart experts who said right away that peopel should all stick at home for 2 weeks and have covid starve out. then spend money on sending people covid tests and do contact tracing. they were canceled.
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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Tue Nov 21 2023 07:26 am

> -=> MRO wrote to paulie420 <=-
>
> MR> Actually I was surprised about what a great job he did.
>
> Tax cuts for the rich? Dialing in tax increases for the middle class
> over the next several years? Increasing the debt by 8 trillion dollars?
> Mishandling covid? Inciting a resurrection? Being impeached twice?
>
> Please clarify.
>

First of all, in the global scheme of things, people who BBS from a comfy
armchair are The Rich TM because they are already more wealthy than 90% of the
world's population.

I say this because a lot of people who are actually rich elites like to portraythemselves as poor, working class people, then vote against the interests of
wealthy people and get surprised when it bites them in the ass.

The only thing I am gonna add is that I have friends who used to own a home andeat three times a day during the Trump administration and no longer do in the
current one.

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 23 2023 01:39 pm

> The only thing I am gonna add is that I have friends who used to own a home
> andeat three times a day during the Trump administration and no longer do in
> the
> current one.
>
True! I was actually putting money in my savings account during the Trump admin...

Now I have to take it back out every month just to pay my bills... Thanks O'Biden...

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Hello MRO!

** On Thursday 23.11.23 - 08:33, MRO wrote to Dr. What:

M> there were some smart experts who said right away that
M> peopel should all stick at home for 2 weeks and have covid
M> starve out. then spend money on sending people covid tests
M> and do contact tracing. they were canceled.

Couldn't have worked anyway. People would be in different
stages of needing supplies/groceries, even scheduled surgeries/
appointments. In other words.. people would still need to
travel for one thing or another. Even the shipping/trucking
industry couldn't just "stop" without causing shortages of
things everywhere.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 23.11.23 - 13:39, Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

A> The only thing I am gonna add is that I have friends who
A> used to own a home andeat three times a day during the
A> Trump administration and no longer do in the current one.

Increase in food prices and a housing crisis is the same in
many countries despite who the leaders are.

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MR> everything people did failed too. we all went to home depot and
MR> walmart 500% more.

You are assuming that the gov't Narrative was correct. It wasn't.

MR> if we would have eliminated international travel it would have made a
MR> huge difference.

No it wouldn't have.

MR> That being said people were traveling all over to other states and
MR> spreading it.

Spreading a disease that was so bad that you needed to be tested to see if you
had it. A disease with a 98% recovery rate.

MR> we basically have no plan in place to stop the spread of a contagious
MR> disease. we still do not.

That's because we don't need it and never did.

MR> there were some smart experts who said right away that peopel should
MR> all stick at home for 2 weeks and have covid starve out. then spend
MR> money on sending people covid tests and do contact tracing. they were
MR> canceled. ---

Many actual experts were canceled. More proof of how the gov't Narrative was
false.

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: Bf2k+ to Arelor on Thu Nov 23 2023 10:03 pm

> True! I was actually putting money in my savings account during the Trump
> admin...
>
> Now I have to take it back out every month just to pay my bills... Thanks
> O'Biden...

yeah i have been doing that AND using my credit cards more.
things were great with trump.
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Re: what if biden dies
By: Ogg to Arelor on Fri Nov 24 2023 12:23 am

> Hello Arelor!
>
> ** On Thursday 23.11.23 - 13:39, Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:
>
> A> The only thing I am gonna add is that I have friends who
> A> used to own a home andeat three times a day during the
> A> Trump administration and no longer do in the current one.
>
> Increase in food prices and a housing crisis is the same in
> many countries despite who the leaders are.

united states is different. when we sneeze you catch a cold.
we set the pace.

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: Dr. What to MRO on Fri Nov 24 2023 07:31 am

>
> MR> everything people did failed too. we all went to home depot and
> MR> walmart 500% more.
>
> You are assuming that the gov't Narrative was correct. It wasn't.

what?

>
> MR> if we would have eliminated international travel it would have made a
> MR> huge difference.
>
> No it wouldn't have.

it absolutely would have. it wouldn't have spread coast to coast if ther
were no international travel.

> Spreading a disease that was so bad that you needed to be tested to see if
> you had it. A disease with a 98% recovery rate.
>

it killed my mother and her sister. it killed people i worked with.
they wouldn't have died anyways. women in my family live into their mid 80s-90s. my mom died at 62

we still dont know enough about this man made virus.
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Re: what if biden dies
By: Ogg to Arelor on Fri Nov 24 2023 12:23 am

> Increase in food prices and a housing crisis is the same in
> many countries despite who the leaders are.

Maybe. Blame Nixon for dropping the gold standard, I guess.

The politicians that messed up the Minsk accords and accelerated the Ukrainian
crisis also have names so you can blame them too if you will.

Spain is degrading quite fast and I have friends in IT industries that used to
be quite well funded get sacked in layoffs and then have to settle for lessersjobs. However, degradation of US conditions seems meteorical in comparison fromhere.

It is not The World going to hell, it is The West. I was scanning the stocks
exchanges for new values to put my savings into earlier this week and it turns
out lots of companies that are actually good value are getting bought en-masse
by non-Western powers. This is a sign that Western powers are not strong
anymore... when you are strong you buy other people's firms for cheap and make
money from them. When you are weak you sell your companies because you need thecash now. Western exchanges have lots of stocvks that look shinny but when you
look closer they have lame fundamentals and are objetively overprized, and
those are the ones we are left stranded with.

I agree the current situation does not have a single responsible party, but theadministration in power at a given moment in time is responsible for handling
it and deserves all the blame it gets when they do a lousy job dealing with theaftermaths or defending the set of past policies that tooks us to bad
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-=> MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

> You are assuming that the gov't Narrative was correct. It wasn't.

MR> what?

Have you been living under a rock? Or just listening only to the Propaganda
Ministry?

MR> it absolutely would have. it wouldn't have spread coast to coast if
MR> ther were no international travel.

No, it wouldn't. There were already "cases" here before they even thought to
shut down travel. You don't close the barn doors after the horses have left.

But it didn't matter anyway. COVID was a nothing-burger and the only impact it
had was through bad gov't decisions and hospital mis-treatment.

MR> it killed my mother and her sister.

No, it probably didn't.

MR> it killed people i worked with.

No, it probably didn't either.

The vast majority of people who died "from" COVID actually died "with" COVID,
not from it. And usually through hospital mis-treatment and/or poor health to
begin with.

The only way to know that you had "COVID" was to take a test that has an
extremely high false positive rate. This was intentional to keep the "case"
numbers high and give the Elitists excuses that the sheeple would accept.

MR> we still dont know enough about this man made virus.

We know that it has a 98% recovery rate and that it's no worse the common flu.

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: Dr. What to MRO on Sat Nov 25 2023 08:04 am

> -=> MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-
>
> > You are assuming that the gov't Narrative was correct. It wasn't.
>
> MR> what?
>
> Have you been living under a rock? Or just listening only to the
>
> Propaganda
> Ministry?

no i didnt understand what the hell you are saying

>
> MR> it absolutely would have. it wouldn't have spread coast to coast if
> MR> ther were no international travel.
>
> No, it wouldn't. There were already "cases" here before they even
>
> thought
> to shut down travel. You don't close the barn doors after the horses have
> left.

you could have kept people at home and starved it out. stopping travel would have stopped new cases from being introduced.

>
> MR> it killed my mother and her sister.
>
> No, it probably didn't.

you dumb motherfucker.

> MR> it killed people i worked with.
>
> No, it probably didn't either.

yes it did.

>
> The vast majority of people who died "from" COVID actually died "with"
> COVID, not from it. And usually through hospital mis-treatment and/or poor
> health to begin with.

you dont know shit. now who's the conspiracy guy.

> The only way to know that you had "COVID" was to take a test that has an
> extremely high false positive rate. This was intentional to keep the "case"
> numbers high and give the Elitists excuses that the sheeple would accept.
>
> MR> we still dont know enough about this man made virus.

you are living in another fucking universe.

>
> MR> we still dont know enough about this man made virus.
>
> We know that it has a 98% recovery rate and that it's no worse the common
> flu.

no we don't know that. especially you.
you're one delusional retard. i hope someday someone knocks the sense into you.

i think you are the one living under a rock.

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** On Saturday 25.11.23 - 05:17, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

>> Increase in food prices and a housing crisis is the same in
>> many countries despite who the leaders are.

A> Maybe. Blame Nixon for dropping the gold standard, I guess.

that was a odd one. that allowed banks to literally print
money they do not have.

A> The politicians that messed up the Minsk accords and accelerated the
A> Ukrainian crisis also have names so you can blame them too if you will.

haven't followed how that got messed up.

A> Spain is degrading quite fast and I have friends in IT industries that
A> used to be quite well funded get sacked in layoffs and then have to
A> settle for lessersjobs. However, degradation of US conditions seems
A> meteorical in comparison fromhere.

but people are losing their jobs everywhere, in many countries.

A> It is not The World going to hell, it is The West. I was scanning the
A> stocks exchanges for new values to put my savings into earlier this week
A> and it turns out lots of companies that are actually good value are
A> getting bought en-masse by non-Western powers. This is a sign that Western
A> powers are not strong anymore... when you are strong you buy other
A> people's firms for cheap and make money from them. When you are weak you
A> sell your companies because you need thecash now.

are you referring to vulture capitalism? there are other
strageties to buy-up previous companies, re-branding and make
the same industry thrive again.

A> Western exchanges have lots of stocvks that look shinny but
A> when you look closer they have lame fundamentals and are
A> objetively overprized, and those are the ones we are left
A> stranded with.

maybe just invest your money into bank stocks, or into the tech
that is driving AI (gpu manufacturer, for example), or the
companies that are providing tech for EVs?

A> I agree the current situation does not have a single
A> responsible party, but theadministration in power at a
A> given moment in time is responsible for handling it and
A> deserves all the blame it gets when they do a lousy job
A> dealing with theaftermaths or defending the set of past
A> policies that tooks us to bad situation.

depends on how long the new or current administration is in
power. it would be hard for newly elected leadership to deal
with a previous government's mistakes quickly.
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Re: what if biden dies
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sat Nov 25 2023 08:53 pm

> >> Increase in food prices and a housing crisis is the same in
> >> many countries despite who the leaders are.
>
> A> Maybe. Blame Nixon for dropping the gold standard, I guess.
>
> that was a odd one. that allowed banks to literally print
> money they do not have.
>

once they did that, they took away the power from the people.
we dont even know whats in fort knox. supposed to be 8k metric tons of gold. it could just be elephant shit in garbage bags for all we know.
the us dollar is not backed by anything physical. it only means something because we say so.

>
> depends on how long the new or current administration is in
> power. it would be hard for newly elected leadership to deal
> with a previous government's mistakes quickly.

in the usa trump wrote a bunch of executive orders. that's how a president gets things done quickly. then when biden took over they gave him a big stack of black envelopes and he undid them all. he didnt even know what he was signing away.
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-=> MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

MR> no i didnt understand what the hell you are saying

Exactly.

MR> you could have kept people at home and starved it out. stopping travel
MR> would have stopped new cases from being introduced.

For a disease with a 98% recovery rate, which was about the same as the common
flu. It was NOTHING.

MR> you dumb motherfucker.

And I win.

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> > > The only thing we could have done to combat covid is to eliminate travel
> > > and let it run its course. nothing we did or could have done would have
> > > made any fference.
> >
> > Which he suggested, but politicians of a certain party cried foul and would
> > not let him.

> yeah they called him a racist for suggesting it.

Yes, they did. Those same politicians were originally the ones who
encouraged their constituents to get out and live normally, only to later
claim that Trump didn't lock down fast enough.

> regardless, covid was here sooner than we thought. I'm pretty sure it was
> here the previous year in oct-nov-dec. My friend got it in december and he wa
> almost fired. We had a guy who died in early december. We're pretty sure he
> d it.

We had some weird something sweep through one section of our office. Most
of the people who went to the Dr got diagnosed as having "a flu" but we
later wondered about it also. Luckily I was not in that section. We also
had a lot of contractors in from another area of the country, and that
section was the one that was most likely to be in closed door meetings with
those contractors. So it could have been COVID or some other something
that was not "native" in our germ pool.

They were all pretty sick but none were deathly ill, except our manager.
She got diagnosed with pnumonia. She was very sick, and also smokes, but
was also young and pulled through... it just took her a lot longer than the
others.

>usa and the rest of the world did not have an established gameplan for a pandem
>c despite having the swine flu and bird flu.

Honestly, despite previous recent outbreaks of SARS, I believe most of the
western world was very over-confident that it "couldn't happen here."

> So what Kurt said was basically the usual liberal mindless parroting with no f
> ts. And then he's saying trump gave tax cuts to evil corporations. liberals
> ink all companies are evil. where would we be without places to work?

In some irony, many of the corporations that the liberals I know support
with their buying power are some of the corporations that, while they may
treat their employees real nice, are horrible corporate citizens when it
comes to what they are up to in other, less-developed countries.

So, in other words, they sound evil to me but being giant tech companies get a
lot of profit out of liberal pockets.

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