> > They tested people with no symptoms but they still had "COVID".

> DW> You can be a carrier/spreader of many diseases and never show symptoms
> DW> yourself.

> Wow! COVID had a lot of carriers then. That's strange.

> But that also implies that COVID wasn't as "dangerous" as the Narrative said i
> was.

You can test positive for flu, TB, and many other diseases without having
symptoms. With some of them, you may not be able to spread them without
symptoms but with others you can.

They always said it was not as dangerous to people who are perfectly
healthy. However, they also told us a healthy person who was exposed, but
did not show any serious symptoms, could spread it. They also said that
infected persons who had yet to show serious symptoms, like the high fever,
could spread it before developing a fever.

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Hu> What do you mean by "made nursing homes toxic"?

In the case of Michigan and New York and some other states, COVID patients
were put in nursing homes on purpose. They claimed that the COVID wards
were kept isolated but COVID very quickly ran through the general population
as well.

They tried this here in Kentucky also. However, when COVID quickly jumped
across to the general populations, and the jump got reported in the local
press, they quickly abandoned the practice. Other states continued doing
so.

My guess is that they were getting more federal $$$ for keeping COVID
patients in those homes, much like they are getting more federal $$$ now
for converting facilities from nursing and veteran's homes into places to
house quasi-legal immigrants.

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> DW> Nope. Influenza <> SARS.

> Yup, it is.

DW> Nope. The flu is caused by the influenza virus. SARS and COVID are
DW> caused by the coronavirus.

They are the same and have always been.

DW> SARS-related coronavirus was first identified in 2002 and resulted in
DW> an epidemic of Severe Accute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) which,
DW> ironically, was originally brushed off as "just another influenza
DW> outbreak."

Are these the same "experts" who told us that COVID was a deadly disease?

DW> Not when only one of them is seasonal, and when people got lazy when
DW> the usual flu season was over.

But COVID is seasonal. It only happens on election years.

DW> Nope. COVID does cause flu-like symptoms, but so do many other
DW> diseases that are also not the flu.

1. You have assumed that the information you were given is true. It's not.
2. You have assumed that these "viruses" (none of which have been shown to
exist) "cause" the disease.

Virology has been debunked and we now know that we have been fed a pile of lies
for a long, long time.

> People die from the flu every year.

DW> They don't die in the same numbers every year like they were dying of
DW> COVID.

Yes, they do.

The COVID "death" numbers are completely bogus.

DW> Yes, since you've been claiming until this point that it is the flu,
DW> being more clear is probably a good idea.

And all you've been doing it quoting the false Narrative.

DW> The fact that there was a narrative built around it doesn't mean there
DW> was no pandemic, that people didn't get sick, and that people didn't
DW> die from coronavirus.

1. There was no pandemic - that was part of the false Narrative.
2. People got sick, but the question still is "Was is COVID?" Remember that
the test used is completely bogus.
3. People died from their own heath issues and not because they got a
mythological "virus".

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DW> You can test positive for flu, TB, and many other diseases without
DW> having symptoms.

That's because the test used is bogus. They've never proven that what they are
testing for actually causes the symptoms.

DW> With some of them, you may not be able to spread them
DW> without symptoms but with others you can.

Narrative.

DW> They always said it was not as dangerous to people who are perfectly
DW> healthy.

That's because what they are claiming causes diease is not what actually causes
it. This is there "escape" when people ask "Why didn't Charlie die from it?"

DW> However, they also told us a healthy person who was exposed,
DW> but did not show any serious symptoms, could spread it.

And we now know that they were lying and have been lying to us for many decades
now.

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> DW> Nope. Influenza <> SARS.

> Yup, it is.

DW> Nope. The flu is caused by the influenza virus. SARS and COVID are
DW> caused by the coronavirus.

DW> They are the same and have always been.

Are you retarded, or just stupid? Either way, you're an idiot.

If you would put aside your political biases, you could understand
simple shit. But you don't want to do that, do you?

Read:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33064680/

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vs-flu/art-20490339

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> DW> Nope. The flu is caused by the influenza virus. SARS and COVID are
> DW> caused by the coronavirus.

> They are the same and have always been.

Nope. They are not the same, juast as influenza is not the same as the
poliovirus or the measles virus.

> DW> SARS-related coronavirus was first identified in 2002 and resulted in
> DW> an epidemic of Severe Accute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) which,
> DW> ironically, was originally brushed off as "just another influenza
> DW> outbreak."

> Are these the same "experts" who told us that COVID was a deadly disease?

Probably a different set. My impression was that the persons brushing it
off as the flu were just as likely to be family doctors, or persons who had the
virus who didn't bother seeing a doctor because "it was only the flu," as
they were to be "experts."

> DW> Not when only one of them is seasonal, and when people got lazy when
> DW> the usual flu season was over.

> But COVID is seasonal. It only happens on election years.

It has only happened once so far, and it extended beyond the election year.
The epidemic caused by its cousin SARS, OTOH, didn't happen during an election
year (2002-03).

Now, if you were to ask if I believe that one side capitalized on it
happening during an election year by initially blowing it off as nothing
and then jumping on the other party's president when he made similar
comments, I would agree.

> DW> Nope. COVID does cause flu-like symptoms, but so do many other
> DW> diseases that are also not the flu.

> 1. You have assumed that the information you were given is true. It's not.
> 2. You have assumed that these "viruses" (none of which have been shown to
> exist) "cause" the disease.

No I don't assume that. You can find the information supporting that it is
a virus, that people died from it, etc., from sources beyond the Democrats
and the Elite.

I don't "assume" viruses exist because I have an education.

> Virology has been debunked and we now know that we have been fed a pile of lie
> for a long, long time.

Since when has virology been debunked? Sources?

Knowing now that you don't believe in viruses makes the fact that we are
still discussing this make more sense.

> > People die from the flu every year.

> DW> They don't die in the same numbers every year like they were dying of
> DW> COVID.

> Yes, they do.

Annually they do not. Only when we are experiencing a flu epidemic or pandemic
do they do so.

> The COVID "death" numbers are completely bogus.

Not completely. Yes, if I die in a car crash, test postive for COVID, and
get counted in the numbers, that is bogus. I have seen no reliable sources
that prove this was nearly as common of an occurance as someone
becoming very ill with severe respiratory problems, testing postive for
COVID (as would be expected), and dying.

> DW> Yes, since you've been claiming until this point that it is the flu,
> DW> being more clear is probably a good idea.

> And all you've been doing it quoting the false Narrative.

And all you've been doing is quoting the equally false anti-narrative.

> DW> The fact that there was a narrative built around it doesn't mean there
> DW> was no pandemic, that people didn't get sick, and that people didn't
> DW> die from coronavirus.

> 1. There was no pandemic - that was part of the false Narrative.

Nope. There was one. How it was handled by the WHO was incompetent, and
how many US (and other) politicians spun it was irresponsible, but that
doesn't mean it didn't exist.

> 2. People got sick, but the question still is "Was is COVID?" Remember that
> the test used is completely bogus.

Nope. For some it might have been a question, especially if they decided
not to seek medical attention, but for others it was not.

Some of the initial tests, just like the J&J vax, were indeed not so
accurate. However, autopsy results don't use the same test that live
people were administering to themselves.

> 3. People died from their own heath issues and not because they got a
> mythological "virus".

Explain then how persons without any previous respiratory health issues,
and who didn't even smoke, died from a "mythological virus"?

That is just as much complete BS as Fauci's "bait the Trump crowd" claim
that we should wear more than 2 masks at once.

BTW, you are having this discussion with someone who did not vote for
Clinton or Biden, and would never have considered doing so.

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> DW> You can test positive for flu, TB, and many other diseases without
> DW> having symptoms.

> That's because the test used is bogus. They've never proven that what they ar
> testing for actually causes the symptoms.

And yet very few people get polio now. I am assuming this is just because
we've all been lucky and not because they were able to determine it was caused
by a virus and were eventually able to successfully treat/prevent it?

> DW> However, they also told us a healthy person who was exposed,
> DW> but did not show any serious symptoms, could spread it.

> And we now know that they were lying and have been lying to us for many decade
> now.

Again, how do we "know" this? Do you have any sources that are not just as
biased, but in the opposite direction, as your typical Democrat politician?

I have had a doctor or two that were quacks. I have also had several,
including the one I have now, that I trust, and they believe that viruses
exist and cause disease.

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Ga> Are you retarded, or just stupid? Either way, you're an idiot.

Says the person who believed the whole mask up, close down and get the jab
Narrative which has been proven to be false.

Ga> If you would put aside your political biases, you could understand
Ga> simple shit. But you don't want to do that, do you?

The problem is that **you** don't realize that your whole stand on this is a
political bias. So I'll echo your statement right back at you and add the fact
that you can't handle being wrong.

Ga> https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

Ga> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33064680/

Both of these sites are political, not medical, and both have been prove to be
wrong. They are not sources of fact and have not been for quite some time now.

Ga> https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coro
Ga> navirus-vs-flu/art-20490339

All large hospitals have been compromised. They go along with the Narrative to
keep their gov't money. So this is yet another untrustworthy source.

If you are relying on these "sources" that have been lying to us for decades
now, and have been proven to be lying, then no wonder you have no clue.

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Ga> Are you retarded, or just stupid? Either way, you're an idiot.

DW> Says the person who believed the whole mask up, close down and
DW> get the jab Narrative which has been proven to be false.

What makes you think that? In fact I'm just the opposite of ALL of
those idiotic claims. More proof that you're a moron.

Before you jump to more wrong conclusions, such as I'm a liberal..., I'm
nearly as far from that as possible, if you exclude the raving lunatic
fringe whackos such as yourself. Solidly conservative and always have
been. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, fringe whacko.

Ga> https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm
Ga> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33064680/

DW> Both of these sites are political, not medical, and both have
DW> been prove to be wrong. They are not sources of fact and have
DW> not been for quite some time now.

Okay, more confirmation of nut-job status.

Keep your BS where it belongs. Up your as$.

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By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Thu Nov 30 2023 01:25 pm

Hu>> What do you mean by "made nursing homes toxic"?

DW> In the case of Michigan and New York and some other states, COVID patients
DW> were put in nursing homes on purpose. They claimed that the COVID wards

Yes. Nursing homes in New York are a travesty. The system is flawed and a money pool for corrupt politians and the people that own and run them. They are a medicaid funded money pit. If I had my way I'd close them all down and start a new system that acually works. But that's just me.
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> Ga> Are you retarded, or just stupid? Either way, you're an idiot.

> Says the person who believed the whole mask up, close down and get the jab
> Narrative which has been proven to be false.

It would be one thing if that is all you are claiming.

I mean, believing that the virus didn't originate from the wet markets and
was man-made in their lab is one thing. China has stonewalled most
all attempts at investigation so it makes sense that some would believe
that.

Believing that there was no virus at all, and that no one died from
it (and that virology in general is completely wrong), makes zero sense and is
just plain wrong... as wrong as "the narrative."

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-=> Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

DW> Nope. They are not the same, juast as influenza is not the same as the
DW> poliovirus or the measles virus.

And none of them have been
1. Isolated.
2. Proven to cause disease.

For all intents and purposes, they are the same.

> But COVID is seasonal. It only happens on election years.

DW> It has only happened once so far, and it extended beyond the election
DW> year. The epidemic caused by its cousin SARS, OTOH, didn't happen
DW> during an election year (2002-03).

I think you're missing the headlines today of "mysterious disease" in China.

DW> No I don't assume that. You can find the information supporting that
DW> it is a virus, that people died from it, etc., from sources beyond the
DW> Democrats and the Elite.

Yes, you do assume that. The "information" out there is from sources that have
been proven to be incorrect and pushing an agenda. Now whether that agenda is
from the Elitists has not been proven, but it does seem to go along with it.

DW> Since when has virology been debunked? Sources?

I suggest starting with "Virus Mania" by Torsten Engelbrecht, et al.

DW> Knowing now that you don't believe in viruses makes the fact that we
DW> are still discussing this make more sense.

You've overly simplified my position.

Do viruses exist? I don't know. They've never been able to isolate one.
Do viruses cause disease? Again, I don't know since they've never isolated one
and shown that its introduction causes anything.

I'm not the one who is insisting that the flu and COVID are viruses that cause
disease. So it's not on me to prove anything. It's up to you and the
"experts" to do that.

DW> Nope. There was one. How it was handled by the WHO was incompetent,
DW> and how many US (and other) politicians spun it was irresponsible, but
DW> that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

No there wasn't. It was 100% Narrative to give Elitists an excuse to make the
sheeple let them do things they normally wouldn't allow.

DW> Nope. For some it might have been a question, especially if they
DW> decided not to seek medical attention, but for others it was not.

Then explain why it was insisted that they had COVID when
1. COVID was never isolated (which is required to create an accurate test).
2. COVID was never shown to be the cause of the disease.

DW> Some of the initial tests, just like the J&J vax, were indeed not so
DW> accurate. However, autopsy results don't use the same test that live
DW> people were administering to themselves.

The creator of the "COVID test" publically stated that the test doesn't work
for finding out if you have COVID.

DW> Explain then how persons without any previous respiratory health
DW> issues, and who didn't even smoke, died from a "mythological virus"?

Well, let's see. We'll use my mom as an example. No respiratory health
issues. Years of working in a beauty salon with women who smoked and lots of
hair spray. Jees, could that be why she has COPD? I wonder.

DW> BTW, you are having this discussion with someone who did not vote for
DW> Clinton or Biden, and would never have considered doing so.

That doesn't mean you weren't taken in by the scamdemic.

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-=> Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

DW> And yet very few people get polio now. I am assuming this is just
DW> because we've all been lucky and not because they were able to
DW> determine it was caused by a virus and were eventually able to
DW> successfully treat/prevent it?

Oh, so we want to talk about polio now.

Well, let's see... If you look a the graph of polio cases, you will clearly
see that the number of cases was already dropping **before** the vax was
introduced. You will also see that the decrease in polio cases was in no way
changed by the introduction of the vax. (I do have to take that back a bit.
For a short period, the vax actually increases the polio cases.)

What is very interesting is the graph of the use of heavy metal pesticides. As
they increased in use, polio cases went up. And when they decided to get rid
of them, polio cases went down. And today, we don't use them.

DW> I have had a doctor or two that were quacks. I have also had several,
DW> including the one I have now, that I trust, and they believe that
DW> viruses exist and cause disease.

Then they have been brainwashed. But I don't want to be too hard on them. If
they didn't push the Narrative, they wouldn't have been allows to become
doctors.That plan has been in place for a long, long, long time.

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DW> Says the person who believed the whole mask up, close down and
DW> get the jab Narrative which has been proven to be false.

Ga> What makes you think that?

Because you keep quoting the rest of the false Narrative.

Ga> In fact I'm just the opposite of ALL of
Ga> those idiotic claims. More proof that you're a moron.

People who live in glass houses...

Ga> Okay, more confirmation of nut-job status.

Yes, it does confirm you are a nut job.

Ga> Keep your BS where it belongs. Up your as$.

And I win the argument.

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-=> Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

DW> I mean, believing that the virus didn't originate from the wet markets
DW> and was man-made in their lab is one thing. China has stonewalled most
DW> all attempts at investigation so it makes sense that some would believe
DW> that.

A few things to unpack here.

1. No evidence of a virus has been shown to exist.
2. The whole wet market, lab leak, etc. was just distraction to keep people
from seeing that there was no evidence of a virus existing.
3. But **something** happened. In the case of China, they've polluted so much
of their country that it can pretty much account for any "breakouts" there.
But what happened here?

IHMO: The normal flu came in (which is mostly a problem with lower Vitamin D),
combined with the false Narrative and bogus test, cause the sheeple to panic.

DW> Believing that there was no virus at all, and that no one died from
DW> it (and that virology in general is completely wrong), makes zero sense
DW> and is just plain wrong... as wrong as "the narrative."

Beliving people died from a virus that has never been proven to exist makes
zero sense either.

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-=> Dr. What wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

DW> Do viruses exist? I don't know. They've never been able to isolate
DW> one. Do viruses cause disease? Again, I don't know since they've never
DW> isolated one and shown that its introduction causes anything.

Wait, what?

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-rna/fact-check-sars-cov-2-has-been-isolated-and-its-complete-genome-has-been-sequenced-idUSL1N2LS27P/

From the article:

However, the first argument relating to isolation is not true. There are
multiple examples of scientists isolating SARS-CoV-2 (here, here, here,
here), the virus that causes COVID-19 disease, where they also sequenced
the complete genome (here, here, here). Pictures of isolated SARS-CoV-2
particles have been released by the U.S. National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases (here).

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> DW> Nope. They are not the same, juast as influenza is not the same as the
> DW> poliovirus or the measles virus.

> And none of them have been
> 1. Isolated.
> 2. Proven to cause disease.

> For all intents and purposes, they are the same.

Poliovirus was isolated in 1909. Not only has it been isolated, its genome
has been sequenced, and its structure has been determined. It has been
determined to cause polio.

Multiple strains of influenza have also been isolated. Influenza mutates,
and there are multiple strains. Influenza strains have been shown to cause
the flu in multiple animals, mostly mammals and birds.

The coronavirus that causes SARS was isolated before 2003. That year, it
was also shown that monkeys infected with this cornonavirus developed the
same SARS symptoms as humans, proving that the virus causes SARS.

The coronavirus that causes COVID has been isolated, sequenced, and its
structure identified. Several partial snipits from interviews that have
been circulated on the internet that claim otherwise have been debunked by
multiple sources.

>Yes, you do assume that. The "information" out there is from sources that have
>been proven to be incorrect and pushing an agenda. Now whether that agenda is
>from the Elitists has not been proven, but it does seem to go along with it.

So they've been out to get Trump since 1909 and before? That is when some
of the earliest "information" in question was determined. That is a long
time to be pushing an agenda, especially since Trump was yet to be born in
1909.

>What is very interesting is the graph of the use of heavy metal pesticides. As
>they increased in use, polio cases went up. And when they decided to get rid
>of them, polio cases went down. And today, we don't use them.

But yet, people (who have not been immunized for the poliovirus) still get
polio, even though "today, we don't use (heavy metal pesticides)." Heavy
metal pesticide exposure may have caused multiple issues, including ones
with similar symptoms and outcomes, but they don't cause the poliovirus or
polio.

>I'm not the one who is insisting that the flu and COVID are viruses that cause
>disease. So it's not on me to prove anything. It's up to you and the
>"experts" to do that.

If we provide you with proof, it will be dismissed as "the narrative" (as it
already has been dismissed) even though much of what is known about viruses
(excluding specifics about COVID) long proceeds the 2020 election.

Basically what we have here...

(1) An Event took place.

(2) Members of Group A used that Event to their benefit, mixing in some
false information in the process. Some of that info was "what was known"
that was later found to be false, and some if it was likely on purpose.

(3) Members of Group B have decided that since Group A lied/mislead/were
wrong about some of the information spread about the Event, everything that
was said by anyone that matches anything that Group A said is also wrong.
This includes many facts that were known long before the Event.

(4) These same members of Group B only listen to and believe sources
(equally faulty) that support their belief that everything said by Group A
is false, even when it comes to facts that were known long before the Event.

Saying it is on us to "reprove" things that were long ago proven (i.e.
influenca is a virus that causes disease) is like telling us we need to
"reprove" that the Earth is round just because some left-wing politician said
it was round so others have now decided that, because they said it was round,
it must be flat.

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-=> poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dr. What <=-

DW> Do viruses exist? I don't know. They've never been able to isolate
DW> one. Do viruses cause disease? Again, I don't know since they've never
DW> isolated one and shown that its introduction causes anything.

pF> Wait, what?

*** Propaganda deleted ***

If you actually dig into the documentation the virology hoax pretty much along
the lines of:
1. We took someone who showed symptoms and took some of his juice.
2. We then injected that juice into the blood stream of someone who didn't show
symptoms and now he shows symptoms.
3. Oh, here's a pretty microscopic picture of the first guy's juice with some
things in it. We assert (without evidence) that those things are the viruses.
So it must have been those that caused the symptoms.
4. And we have lots of people who we didn't inject the first guy's juice into,
but we can see that they they have the things too, but they don't show
symptoms. So we are going to call those people "asymptomatic".
5. And why some people show symptoms, but don't have the first's guy's juice in
them, and no microscopic things, is still a mystery. But they have the virus
too because they show symptoms.

We can excuse Louis Pasteur and the people of his day because they simply
didn't have the equipment and controls then. But today, we should be able to
isolate a virus and demonstrate, with controls, that exposure to it causes the
symptoms. The fact is that they've never done that. Ever.

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-=> Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

DW> Poliovirus was isolated in 1909.

When they didn't have the technology to isolate a virus.

DW> Not only has it been isolated, its
DW> genome has been sequenced, and its structure has been determined. It
DW> has been determined to cause polio.

Says the people who believe that viruses exist.

DW> Multiple strains of influenza have also been isolated. Influenza
DW> mutates, and there are multiple strains. Influenza strains have been
DW> shown to cause the flu in multiple animals, mostly mammals and birds.

Again, by the people who have a vested interest in perpetuating the virus myth.

They **claim** they have isolated it. But if you actually read the research,
they didn't.

DW> If we provide you with proof, it will be dismissed as "the narrative"
DW> (as it already has been dismissed) even though much of what is known
DW> about viruses (excluding specifics about COVID) long proceeds the 2020
DW> election.

I'm still waiting for proof. Giving me links to groups who have a vested
interesting in continuing the virus hoax is not proof. Telling me that
something has been isolated when the research clearly shows that it hasn't
is not proof.

Trusting the "experts" is not acceptable anymore because too many experts
aren't.

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> DW> If we provide you with proof, it will be dismissed as "the narrative"
> DW> (as it already has been dismissed) even though much of what is known
> DW> about viruses (excluding specifics about COVID) long proceeds the 2020
> DW> election.

> I'm still waiting for proof. Giving me links to groups who have a vested
> interesting in continuing the virus hoax is not proof. Telling me that
> something has been isolated when the research clearly shows that it hasn't
> is not proof.

> Trusting the "experts" is not acceptable anymore because too many experts
> aren't.

So basically we trust people who certainly are not experts who tell us that
viruses are a hoax? No thank you. We've already seen how that works out
for religious and other groups that don't believe in doctors.

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> DW> If we provide you with proof, it will be dismissed as "the narrative"
> DW> (as it already has been dismissed) even though much of what is known
> DW> about viruses (excluding specifics about COVID) long proceeds the 2020
> DW> election.

> I'm still waiting for proof. Giving me links to groups who have a vested
> interesting in continuing the virus hoax is not proof. Telling me that
> something has been isolated when the research clearly shows that it hasn't
> is not proof.

> Trusting the "experts" is not acceptable anymore because too many experts
> aren't.

DW> So basically we trust people who certainly are not experts who
DW> tell us that viruses are a hoax? No thank you. We've already
DW> seen how that works out for religious and other groups that don't
DW> believe in doctors.

I think you're wasting your time trying to discuss with, or use logical
thinking with, this absolutely over-the-edge fringe whacko. Best to just
ignore and laugh at such idiots.

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Re: Re: what if biden dies
By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 06 2023 09:51 pm

> > DW> If we provide you with proof, it will be dismissed as "the
> > DW> narrative" (as it already has been dismissed) even though much of
> > DW> what is known about viruses (excluding specifics about COVID) long
> > DW> proceeds the 2020 election.
>
> > I'm still waiting for proof. Giving me links to groups who have a vested
> > interesting in continuing the virus hoax is not proof. Telling me that
> > something has been isolated when the research clearly shows that it
> > hasn't is not proof.
>
> > Trusting the "experts" is not acceptable anymore because too many experts
> > aren't.
>
> DW> So basically we trust people who certainly are not experts who
> DW> tell us that viruses are a hoax? No thank you. We've already
> DW> seen how that works out for religious and other groups that don't
> DW> believe in doctors.
>
> I think you're wasting your time trying to discuss with, or use logical
> thinking with, this absolutely over-the-edge fringe whacko. Best to just
> ignore and laugh at such idiots.
>

I just blocked the fool. obviously there was a virus that a sect of the scientific community were playing with in china and it got out. I had covid twice and it's nothing i've ever had in my life. It didn't come close to killing me but I know several people who died of it. In my life I never had so many people I know die of the same illness in such a short timeframe.

You only need a quarter of a brain to understand that covid does exist, most people have got it and not even known it, it kills some people and does weird things to some people's bodies like nothing else(blood clots and heart issues). It also shed light on the fact that we are not prepared for any type of biological threat, and such a threat spreads quickly.

Luckily there were strains that were super contagious and less life threatening that basically allowed enough people to get anti-bodies to starve out the bad strains of covid-19. Now there's one that's been around since late summer that leaves some people with chronic bronchitis for a period of time after beating it.

The weird thing is I've only been sick a handful of the time for decades. I'm 46 and I have not had the flu since I was 18. Now I get everything. I'm sick right now with a cold.
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-=> Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

> Trusting the "experts" is not acceptable anymore because too many experts
> aren't.

DW> So basically we trust people who certainly are not experts who tell us
DW> that viruses are a hoax? No thank you. We've already seen how that
DW> works out for religious and other groups that don't believe in doctors.

And, once again, you missed it.

I am saying we can trust the experts. The problem is that we need to use some
critical thinking skills to understand who is or is not an expert. We have too
many NPC's walking around with no real education, but with a bogus degree and
title.

An expert is someone who will put his sources and argument out on the table and
invite you to examine things and ask questions - that will be answered.

A so-called "expert" is someone who won't let you see the sources, won't put an
argument out there, and will tell you to just trust him because he's an
"expert". And how dare you question or disagree with him.

So it should be pretty easy to determine who is and is not an expert today.

If he got lots of time from the Propaganda Ministry... er... Mainstream media,
then he's not an expert. If he got "fact checked" and blocked on social media,
he probably was.

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-=> Gamgee wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

Ga> I think you're wasting your time trying to discuss with, or use logical
Ga> thinking with, this absolutely over-the-edge fringe whacko. Best to
Ga> just ignore and laugh at such idiots.

Are you Lee or Al? I have to ask because you're projecting again.

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MR> I just blocked the fool.

Good. Then you won't mind...

MR> Obviously there was a virus that a sect of
MR> the scientific community were playing with in china and it got out.

Obviously you are gullible and bought the propaganda. I have a bridge in New
York that I'd like to sell you.

MR> I had covid twice and it's nothing i've ever had in my life.

You were told you had COVID and, due to your gullibility, were already primed
to be overly sensitive about the symptoms. I suggest you look up the word
"hypochondriac".

MR> It didn't come close to killing me

Because it was just the common cold or flu.

MR> but I know several people who died of it.

You know several people you were told died of it. Without any evidence.

My offer on the bridge is still available.

MR> In
MR> my life I never had so many people I know die of the same illness in
MR> such a short timeframe.

Yet many of us never knew anyone who died of COVID, or even with COVID.

You must hang around with a great deal of unhealthy people.

MR> You only need a quarter of a brain to understand that covid does exist,

No one ever claimed it didn't.

Again, you've fallen for the standard Elitist tactic:
1. Pick a fact.
2. Build a false Narrative around it.
3. When someone says the Narrative is false, point to the fact and claim
"denier".

Facts:
1. COVID was never isolated.
2. COVID was never shown to cause infection.
3. The PCR test that showed that someone had COVID was 100% bogus.

MR> most people have got it and not even known it,

So you now admit that it's not a problem.

MR> it kills some people and

Hmmm... Just like the seasonal flu. And you can look that data up on the CDC
web site. Since you trust the CDC, that shouldn't be a problem.

MR> does weird things to some people's bodies like nothing else(blood clots
MR> and heart issues).

That's the jab for those people so stupid to get it.

MR> It also shed light on the fact that we are not
MR> prepared for any type of biological threat, and such a threat spreads
MR> quickly.

And you are still pushing the false Narrative that only the gov't can protect
us against scary things.

I have a better idea:
1. Stop smoking.
2. Stop heavy drinking.
3. Eat healty.
4. Exercise.

You'd be surprised by how little impact the next "pandemic" has.

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