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* Hello World!Dizzy
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|||    ||   |`- Hello World!candycane
|||    ||   `- Hello World!Hustler
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|||    ||| `* Hello World!Nightfox
|||    |||  `- Hello World!MRO
|||    ||`- Hello World!Gamgee
|||    |`- Hello World!The Lizard Master
|||    `- Hello World!Gamgee
||`* Hello World!GenFx
|+* Hello World!MRO
|`* Hello World!Hustler
`- Hello World!candycane

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Hello World!

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From: candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS (candycane)
To: GenFx
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64CCF4E0.24988.dove-net2001@conchaos.synchro.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 08:53:52 -0400
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 by: candycane - Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:53 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: GenFx to candycane on Fri Aug 04 2023 05:37 pm

Ge> Re: Hello World!
Ge> By: candycane to GenFx on Thu Aug 03 2023 21:42:20

>> Same, I'm not good at talking in person.

>> candycane

Ge> thanks, im glad im in good company ^^

Ge> ---
Ge> ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.digitalrainbow.info

You have to be a bit of a nerd to end up here so yeah pretty good company. ^^

candycane

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....Massachusetts has the best politicians money can buy.
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Hello World!

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: candycane
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64CD78EF.12148.dove-gen@bbses.info>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 17:17:19 -0500
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 by: MRO - Fri, 4 Aug 2023 22:17 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to GenFx on Fri Aug 04 2023 08:53 am

>
> You have to be a bit of a nerd to end up here so yeah pretty good company.
> ^^
>
> candycane
>

not a nerd, more like mentally ill
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Hello World!

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From: candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS (candycane)
To: MRO
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64CDA150.25006.dove-net2001@conchaos.synchro.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 21:09:36 -0400
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 by: candycane - Sat, 5 Aug 2023 01:09 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: MRO to candycane on Fri Aug 04 2023 05:17 pm

MR> Re: Hello World!
MR> By: candycane to GenFx on Fri Aug 04 2023 08:53 am

>> You have to be a bit of a nerd to end up here so yeah pretty good
>> company. ^^

>> candycane

MR> not a nerd, more like mentally ill
MR> ---
MR> ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

Then it's the second community spawned from old tech that I'm a part of where the members are (jokingly called) insane.

candycane

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user is generated from /dev/urandom

....Autobiography is now as common as adultery - and hardly less reprehensible
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Hello World!

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: candycane
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64CDCA4A.12159.dove-gen@bbses.info>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 23:04:26 -0500
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 by: MRO - Sat, 5 Aug 2023 04:04 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to MRO on Fri Aug 04 2023 09:09 pm

> Then it's the second community spawned from old tech that I'm a part of
> where the members are (jokingly called) insane.
>
> candycane

who was joking
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Hello World!

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From: candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS (candycane)
To: MRO
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64CE01E6.25016.dove-net2001@conchaos.synchro.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 04:01:42 -0400
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 by: candycane - Sat, 5 Aug 2023 08:01 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: MRO to candycane on Fri Aug 04 2023 11:04 pm

MR> Re: Hello World!
MR> By: candycane to MRO on Fri Aug 04 2023 09:09 pm

>> Then it's the second community spawned from old tech that I'm a part
>> of where the members are (jokingly called) insane.

>> candycane

MR> who was joking
MR> ---
MR> ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

Ah, c'mon. You're not insane for being interested in old tech..

candycane

===
user is generated from /dev/urandom

....Interchangeable parts won't.
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Hello World!

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From: genfx@VERT/DR (GenFx)
To: candycane
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64CE67A2.4737.dove-general@bbs.digitalrainbow.info>
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 01:15:46 +1000
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 by: GenFx - Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:15 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to GenFx on Fri Aug 04 2023 08:53:52

> You have to be a bit of a nerd to end up here so yeah pretty good company.
> ^^
>
> candycane
>
Thankyou, thats very kind. I tried to say something witty but it seems i'm more than a 'bit of a nerd' and got nothing :D

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Hello World!

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From: candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS (candycane)
To: GenFx
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64CEEA18.25031.dove-net2001@conchaos.synchro.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 20:32:24 -0400
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 by: candycane - Sun, 6 Aug 2023 00:32 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: GenFx to candycane on Sun Aug 06 2023 01:15 am

Ge> Re: Hello World!
Ge> By: candycane to GenFx on Fri Aug 04 2023 08:53:52

>> You have to be a bit of a nerd to end up here so yeah pretty good
>> company. ^^

>> candycane

Ge> Thankyou, thats very kind. I tried to say something witty but it seems i'm
Ge> more than a 'bit of a nerd' and got nothing :D

Ge> ---
Ge> ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.digitalrainbow.info

Well, what kinda stuff do you like doing?

candycane

===
user is generated from /dev/urandom

....Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect.
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Hello World!

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From: genfx@VERT/DR (GenFx)
To: candycane
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64D0B05D.4776.dove-general@bbs.digitalrainbow.info>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 18:50:37 +1000
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 by: GenFx - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 08:50 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to GenFx on Sat Aug 05 2023 20:32:24

> Well, what kinda stuff do you like doing?
>
> candycane
>
For work im an audio engineer and stage manager.
I like Electronics and Computers, (Linux, DOS & Commodore in particular)
For fun I enjoy simracing, i've been lucky enought to get a resonable graphics card and 4K VR. To me sim racing is the pinicle of VR and with a sim cockpit its the closest to real immersion as possible.
When all the nerdy stuff has me overwhelmed I like to go 4WDing and camping.

How about you?

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Hello World!

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To: GenFx
Subject: Hello World!
Message-ID: <64D11D72.25070.dove-net2001@conchaos.synchro.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 12:36:02 -0400
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 by: candycane - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 16:36 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: GenFx to candycane on Mon Aug 07 2023 06:50 pm

Ge> Re: Hello World!
Ge> By: candycane to GenFx on Sat Aug 05 2023 20:32:24

>> Well, what kinda stuff do you like doing?

>> candycane

Ge> For work im an audio engineer and stage manager.
Ge> I like Electronics and Computers, (Linux, DOS & Commodore in particular)
Ge> For fun I enjoy simracing, i've been lucky enought to get a resonable
Ge> graphics card and 4K VR. To me sim racing is the pinicle of VR and with a
Ge> sim cockpit its the closest to real immersion as possible.
Ge> When all the nerdy stuff has me overwhelmed I like to go 4WDing and
Ge> camping.

Ge> How about you?

Ge> ---
Ge> ■ Synchronet ■ bbs.digitalrainbow.info

Messing with linux, coding, experimenting with a old raspberry pi, and also a bit of digital art (mostly pixel art)

candycane

===
user is generated from /dev/urandom

....Chuck Norris can kick a fart back into an ass.
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Hello World!

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Subject: Hello World!
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 by: Phigan - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 03:26 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: GenFx to candycane on Mon Aug 07 2023 06:50 pm

> For work im an audio engineer and stage manager.

Oh? I was just talking to a Serbian audio engineer the other day..

And a Czech one, too.

And a Czech one two.

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 by: candycane - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 05:54 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: Phigan to GenFx on Mon Aug 07 2023 08:26 pm

Ph> Oh? I was just talking to a Serbian audio engineer the other day..

Ph> And a Czech one, too.

Ph> And a Czech one two.

Good one.

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 by: GenFx - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 14:15 UTC

Re: Hello World!
By: Phigan to GenFx on Mon Aug 07 2023 20:26:37

> Oh? I was just talking to a Serbian audio engineer the other day..
>
> And a Czech one, too.
>
> And a Czech one two.
>

HAHAHA this made me laugh more than I wish to admit, thanks ^^

They sound like the three voices I talk to also

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 by: Aurelius - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 10:18 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jul 29 2023 09:37 pm

> pF> Next question? Siss-op or SISE-op?
>
> The only correct answer is Siss.
Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from those... It's SysOp and GIF.
Of course, I'm likely to start a flamewar! Guess I should be careful :P

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 by: Gamgee - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:55 UTC

-=> Aurelius wrote to Gamgee <=-

Au> Re: Re: Hello World!
Au> By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jul 29 2023 09:37 pm

> pF> Next question? Siss-op or SISE-op?

> The only correct answer is Siss.

Au> Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is
Au> Graphics Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get
Au> Sigh-Sop or JIF from those... It's SysOp and GIF. Of course, I'm
Au> likely to start a flamewar! Guess I should be careful :P

Yes, there really is no good argument in favor of "Sise-op". It's
"siss-op" for sure.

I'm with you on the GIF one too, I've always pronounced it as GIF (with
a hard G sound) rather than "JIF". But I have a vague memory of
somebody who matters (the author of the GIF format, perhaps?) saying it
was pronounced "JIF". And, the "G" can be pronounced that way (as in
the animal "Giraffe" for example). However, I do and will continue to
pronounce it with a hard G. ;-)

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 by: Nightfox - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 16:37 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Aurelius to Gamgee on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:18 am

Au> Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics
Au> Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from
Au> those... It's SysOp and GIF.

When I first started BBSing and I saw "sysop" and didn't know what it meant, I thought it was "sigh-sop" because of the Y.. But then I learned it's short for "system operator" and its proper pronunciation.

As far as GIF, most of the people I've known pronounce it like "JIF", so that's just how I've pronounced it. And I've heard the creator of the GIF format says that's the way to pronounce it.

I don't know why some people get so upset about how GIF is pronounced.. English tends to be an inconsistent language. For instance, why is the word "vineyard" typically pronounced "vin-yeerd" rather than like the two separate words "vine" "yard"?

Nightfox

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 by: Digital Man - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 23:24 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Aurelius to Gamgee on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:18 am

> > The only correct answer is Siss.
> Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics
> Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from
> those... It's SysOp and GIF.

You're right on sysop, but wrong on GIF. The guy who invented GIF says it's pronounced "jiff", so jiff it is. <shrug>
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Nightfox to Aurelius on Sat Dec 30 2023 08:37 am

> When I first started BBSing and I saw "sysop" and didn't know what it meant,
> I thought it was "sigh-sop" because of the Y.. But then I learned it's
> short for "system operator" and its proper pronunciation.
>

it's always been sis-op around my neck of the woods

i dont say it like 'SYESTEMS operator', i say it like 'sistems operator'.

> As far as GIF, most of the people I've known pronounce it like "JIF", so
> that's just how I've pronounced it. And I've heard the creator of the GIF
> format says that's the way to pronounce it.

i prefer gif pronounced like you got a gift.

>
> I don't know why some people get so upset about how GIF is pronounced..
> English tends to be an inconsistent language. For instance, why is the word

the creator of the gif was super pissed off about it. he also wanted
fucking royalties for usage of the format.

> "vineyard" typically pronounced "vin-yeerd" rather than like the two
> separate words "vine" "yard"?

Why do they call it Ovaltine? The mug is round, the jar is round.. they should call it Roundtine.
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Digital Man to Aurelius on Sat Dec 30 2023 03:24 pm

> > Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics
> > Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF
> > from those... It's SysOp and GIF.
>
> You're right on sysop, but wrong on GIF. The guy who invented GIF says it's
> pronounced "jiff", so jiff it is. <shrug>

looks like covid got him last year.

i dont like jiff;i think pronouncing it jiff is too close to JFIF/JIF format
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 by: DaiTengu - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:27 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Digital Man to Aurelius on Sat Dec 30 2023 03:24 pm

DM> You're right on sysop, but wrong on GIF. The guy who invented GIF says
DM> it's pronounced "jiff", so jiff it is. <shrug> --

Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky was meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie containers. Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.

The GIF guy was wrong about how it's pronnounced. :)

DaiTengu

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 by: Nightfox - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:20 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:27 pm

Da> Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky was
Da> meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie containers.
Da> Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.

I don't think thta means the inventors were 'wrong' about their inventions though. It's just that the invention was intended for one thing and people started using it for something else. But I don't think you can argue with the inventor/creator about what they intended.

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 by: MRO - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:44 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:27 pm

> Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky was
> meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie containers.
> Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.
>
> The GIF guy was wrong about how it's pronnounced. :)
>

yeah he was wrong from the start. 'graphics' = hard G

maybe he had a peanutbutter obsession.
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 by: MRO - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:49 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:20 pm

> Re: Re: Hello World!
> By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:27 pm
>
> Da> Lots of inventors have been wrong about their inventions. The slinky
> Da> was meant to stabilize equipment on ships. Frisbees were pie
> Da> containers. Play-Doh was made to clean wallpaper.
>
> I don't think thta means the inventors were 'wrong' about their inventions
> though. It's just that the invention was intended for one thing and people
> started using it for something else. But I don't think you can argue with
> the inventor/creator about what they intended.
>

well people are wrong and people do stupid things.

it was stupid to expect people to pronounce gif as JIF. especially when there
was a jif format a few years later. why didn't he choose jif? oh because it stands for graphics? graphics is hard G.

just like the lady that named her kid marijuana pepsi, he is wrong.
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 by: The Lizard Master - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:35 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Aurelius to Gamgee on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:18 am

> > pF> Next question? Siss-op or SISE-op?
>
> > The only correct answer is Siss.
> Agreed. I mean, it's from System Operator. Just like how GIF is Graphics
> Interchange Format. I don't understand how people get Sigh-Sop or JIF from
> those... It's SysOp and GIF.
> Of course, I'm likely to start a flamewar! Guess I should be careful :P

To be contrarian, I believe it to be Siss-op and Jif! I have reasons for both and I'm ready to fight to the death!

Happy New Year!

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 by: Nightfox - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:53 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:49 am

MR> it was stupid to expect people to pronounce gif as JIF. especially when
MR> there was a jif format a few years later. why didn't he choose jif? oh
MR> because it stands for graphics? graphics is hard G.

So you're saying the jif format came LATER, but it's GIF that shouldn't have been pronounced that way first? "jif" is how I've always heard most people pronounce it. And I actually wasn't aware of the jif format until you mentioned it recently.

Nightfox

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 by: MRO - Tue, 2 Jan 2024 09:11 UTC

Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Jan 01 2024 11:53 am

> Re: Re: Hello World!
> By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:49 am
>
> MR> it was stupid to expect people to pronounce gif as JIF. especially when
> MR> there was a jif format a few years later. why didn't he choose jif? oh
> MR> because it stands for graphics? graphics is hard G.
>
> So you're saying the jif format came LATER, but it's GIF that shouldn't have
> been pronounced that way first? "jif" is how I've always heard most people
> pronounce it. And I actually wasn't aware of the jif format until you
> mentioned it recently.

i've always heard people pronounce it GIF like GIFT. NEVER jif
the G in gif is graphics which is hard G.

since a few years later there is Jif graphics format and he was STILL trying to get people to say gif and jif just makes him even more ridiculious.

now we're stupid for still talking about it.
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