Re: Re: Hello World!
By: poindexter FORTRAN to The Lizard Master on Sat Jul 29 2023 07:46 am

> While there's a lot the current incarnation of BBSes has to offer, the
> dial-up era was pretty nice, for what you mention. We had a local
> othernet called NIRVANAnet, and we'd arrange get-togethers at least
> quarterly. You'd get to meet the people you were arguing with
> face-to-face, hang out and drink/eat with people you liked, share bits
> about your real life with others, and occasionally meet and date someone
> you'd met through the BBS.

Yeah, great memories!

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Ewing to The Lizard Master on Sun Jul 30 2023 12:35 am

> I've always said siss-op. As in System Operator.
>
> You don't say size-tem.. :)

I agree, but we might be wrong.

It was one of the strangest things I heard when I talked to people in real
life. I heard them say sizeop, and I kept saying wouldn't it be siss as in
System? Folks in the sizeop category always claimed it was correct
phonetically. In fact if you look up sysop pronunciation it says sai * suhp.

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Sat Jul 29 2023 01:02 pm

> TL> Do you pronounce it size-op or siss-op? That's been heated like the
> TL> .gif controversy.
>
> I've never heard "size-op", but I've heard people pronounce it either
> "sye-sop" or "siss-op".
>
> Years ago, I watched "BBS: The Documentary" by Jason Scott, and there was a
> person in there who said he preferred "sye-sop" because he thought "siss-op"
> sounded too close to "sissy op".
>
> Nightfox

My ear heard it as sizeop, but I did mean more like sye-sop. I haven't watched the doc in a while, forgot that was addressed!

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to Nightfox on Sat Jul 29 2023 05:28 pm

> Ni> When I first saw the word "sysop", my first thought was "sye-sop". I
> Ni> didn't know at the time that the "sys" was short for "system". But I
> Ni> was 12 years old at the time.. :)
>
> Did you want to become one as a kid? Or was it more a passing interest

For me, I almost immediately wanted to host one once I started calling around. What a cool time that was.

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> The admin/power level login in OS/400 was called QSYSOPR, I recall
> people talking about "logging in as sysop", but not referring to someone
> as "sysop".

Hey, I remember that now! We had an OS/400 at the place I worked before
this one (the mainframe shop). The weird thinga bout that place was that a
whole lot of the daily order and inventory processing got done on a "Baby/36"
and another system that were both running on PCs. The results got loaded to
the OS/400. I think what it was mostly used for was generating reports and
some other misc tasks.

It didn't really occur to me at the time, but that seems rather backwards
and a waste of processing power. Data entry was done on a separate server
and was loaded to the "Baby/36" for processing.

> Next question? Siss-op or SISE-op?

Siss-op. :)

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: The Lizard Master to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 08:18 am

TL> Re: Re: Hello World!
TL> By: candycane to Nightfox on Sat Jul 29 2023 05:28 pm

> Ni>> When I first saw the word "sysop", my first thought was "sye-sop". I
> Ni>> didn't know at the time that the "sys" was short for "system". But I
> Ni>> was 12 years old at the time.. :)

>> Did you want to become one as a kid? Or was it more a passing interest

TL> For me, I almost immediately wanted to host one once I started calling
TL> around. What a cool time that was.

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yea sounds like it was!
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun Jul 30 2023 08:43 am

DW> Hey, I remember that now! We had an OS/400 at the place I worked before

is OS/400 a os? is it like OS/2?
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to Nightfox on Sat Jul 29 2023 05:28 pm

> Ni> When I first saw the word "sysop", my first thought was "sye-sop". I
> Ni> didn't know at the time that the "sys" was short for "system". But I
> Ni> was 12 years old at the time.. :)
>
> Did you want to become one as a kid? Or was it more a passing interest

Sysops were "all powerful" and so yeah, I and most kids desired to become one.
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: The Lizard Master to Ewing on Sun Jul 30 2023 08:15 am

> Re: Re: Hello World!
> By: Ewing to The Lizard Master on Sun Jul 30 2023 12:35 am
>
> > I've always said siss-op. As in System Operator.
>
> > You don't say size-tem.. :)
>
> I agree, but we might be wrong.
>
> It was one of the strangest things I heard when I talked to people in real
> life. I heard them say sizeop, and I kept saying wouldn't it be siss as in
> System? Folks in the sizeop category always claimed it was correct
> phonetically. In fact if you look up sysop pronunciation it says sai * suhp.
>

nothing is correct in the english language. did you ever see gallagher's act?
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to Dumas Walker on Sun Jul 30 2023 10:16 am

> Re: Re: Hello World!
> By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun Jul 30 2023 08:43 am
>
> DW> Hey, I remember that now! We had an OS/400 at the place I worked
> DW> before
>
> is OS/400 a os? is it like OS/2?
> user generated from /dev/urandom

i think he meant as400
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: The Lizard Master to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 08:18 am

> Re: Re: Hello World!
> By: candycane to Nightfox on Sat Jul 29 2023 05:28 pm
>
> > Ni> When I first saw the word "sysop", my first thought was "sye-sop". I
> > Ni> didn't know at the time that the "sys" was short for "system". But I
> > Ni> was 12 years old at the time.. :)
>
> > Did you want to become one as a kid? Or was it more a passing interest
>
> For me, I almost immediately wanted to host one once I started calling
> around. What a cool time that was.
>

I started bbsing in the early 90s and RUNNING a bbs in early to mid 90s.
mid 90s was when the web was taking off and we were losing people to the web/internet.

This time period is usually called 'the third wave' and it was suprisingly very active, maybe even more than years before.

If you have a sysop who's in his mid 40s like me, they are a mid wave sysop.

I started my system when the bbses in my area started to dwindle and I ended up running one of the more popular bbses in my region despite only having one phone line. there was one around me that had multiple lines and provided internet access, but they shut down.

I never really wanted to be a sysop but I knew there was a hole to fill and I really met a lot of great people through bbses. On my bbs my users were my friends, and that is something you don't really get in the telnet age of bbses. we all ended up being actual friends and some of us met in groups or just other types of meetups.
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: The Lizard Master to Ewing on Sun Jul 30 2023 08:15 am

>> I've always said siss-op. As in System Operator.

>> You don't say size-tem.. :)

TL> I agree, but we might be wrong.

TL> It was one of the strangest things I heard when I talked to people in real
TL> life. I heard them say sizeop, and I kept saying wouldn't it be siss as in
TL> System? Folks in the sizeop category always claimed it was correct
TL> phonetically. In fact if you look up sysop pronunciation it says sai *
TL> suhp.

Indeed it was "siss". And where I am, I'd never heard anyone say "size-op".. Always "siss-op" or "sye-sop".

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: MRO to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 03:34 pm

> > is OS/400 a os? is it like OS/2?
> > user generated from /dev/urandom
>
>
> i think he meant as400

OS/400 was the original operating system of the IBM AS/400.
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Digital Man to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 01:02 pm

>> Did you want to become one as a kid? Or was it more a passing interest

DM> Sysops were "all powerful" and so yeah, I and most kids desired to become
DM> one.

When I started running a BBS (1994), I knew a few kids at school who knew what a BBS was, but it seemed not very many knew about them. I was telling one of my friends (who was familiar with computers) about it when I started mine, and he said "What's a BBS?"

At the same time, I did have one or two friends who called it a few times. And there was one kid who I think even said he went to my high school, but I hadn't met him in person. We played a lot of Doom over the modem in the summer of 1995 though, sometimes until around 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning..

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Jul 30 2023 03:17 pm

> Re: Re: Hello World!
> By: Digital Man to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 01:02 pm
>
> >> Did you want to become one as a kid? Or was it more a passing interest
>
> DM> Sysops were "all powerful" and so yeah, I and most kids desired to
> DM> become one.
>
> When I started running a BBS (1994), I knew a few kids at school who knew
> what a BBS was, but it seemed not very many knew about them. I was telling
> one of my friends (who was familiar with computers) about it when I started
> mine, and he said "What's a BBS?"

True, I didn't mean to imply that "most kids" knew what a BBS or a sysop was. Most kids (or people in general) did not know they existed. I should have said "I and most users desired to become one."
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: MRO to The Lizard Master on Sun Jul 30 2023 03:33 pm

MR> nothing is correct in the english language. did you ever see gallagher's
MR> act? ---

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Sun Jul 30 2023 03:12 pm

Ni> Re: Re: Hello World!
Ni> By: The Lizard Master to Ewing on Sun Jul 30 2023 08:15 am

>>> I've always said siss-op. As in System Operator.

>>> You don't say size-tem.. :)

TL>> I agree, but we might be wrong.

TL>> It was one of the strangest things I heard when I talked to people in
TL>> real life. I heard them say sizeop, and I kept saying wouldn't it be siss
TL>> as in System? Folks in the sizeop category always claimed it was correct
TL>> phonetically. In fact if you look up sysop pronunciation it says sai *
TL>> suhp.

Ni> Indeed it was "siss". And where I am, I'd never heard anyone say
Ni> "size-op".. Always "siss-op" or "sye-sop".

Ni> Nightfox

yea, i dont think ive heard ANYONE not pronounce "sys" as "siss"

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to Nightfox on Sun Jul 30 2023 04:00 pm

> yea, i dont think ive heard ANYONE not pronounce "sys" as "siss"

I usually say "sizz" (soft 's'). <shrug>
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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: candycane to MRO on Sun Jul 30 2023 03:58 pm

ca> whos gallagher?

You haven't heard of Gallagher?
He's a comedian who was most active in the 80s, and part of his act was often smashing watermelons (and sometimes other melons and vegetables).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallagher_(comedian)
https://youtu.be/ErppAlOIGQE

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DM> Re: Re: Hello World!
DM> By: MRO to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 03:34 pm

> > is OS/400 a os? is it like OS/2?
> > user generated from /dev/urandom
>
>
> i think he meant as400

DM> OS/400 was the original operating system of the IBM AS/400.
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oh cool, i havent heard of that before!

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Nightfox to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 04:29 pm

Ni> Re: Re: Hello World!
Ni> By: candycane to MRO on Sun Jul 30 2023 03:58 pm

ca>> whos gallagher?

Ni> You haven't heard of Gallagher?
Ni> He's a comedian who was most active in the 80s, and part of his act was
Ni> often smashing watermelons (and sometimes other melons and vegetables).

Ni> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallagher_(comedian)
Ni> https://youtu.be/ErppAlOIGQE

Ni> Nightfox

oh cool, i know i've seen the watermelon smashing thing but i didn't know where it
was from!

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Digital Man to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 04:19 pm

> I usually say "sizz" (soft 's'). <shrug>

Haha... https://youtu.be/lOWKGXpl9E0

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Jul 30 2023 03:17 pm

> Re: Re: Hello World!
> By: Digital Man to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 01:02 pm
>
> >> Did you want to become one as a kid? Or was it more a passing
>
> interest
>
> DM> Sysops were "all powerful" and so yeah, I and most kids desired to
> DM> become one.
>
> When I started running a BBS (1994), I knew a few kids at school who knew
> what a BBS was, but it seemed not very many knew about them. I was telling
> one of my friends (who was familiar with computers) about it when I started
> mine, and he said "What's a BBS?"

we had a sysop named dr death. when we found out his real name, i saw him in highschool. this guy was the biggest fat dork in the school. fat, dirty, had curley blonde hair afro.

Online he acted like mr cool. like online he acted like he had to carry around his nuts in a wheel barrel.

He even kicked me off several times just for no reason after insulting me. he did that with other users too. probably because he only had one computer.
years later he called my telnet bbs and i bunted his ass off just for kicks.

i see him on fb. he probably is less of a dick now. https://i.imgur.com/E0V1ACF.png

but back to the 90s... back then not everyone was online
not everyone had a computer in the home. things were different.

america online changed that because it was essentially a main stream bbs.

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: Digital Man to candycane on Sun Jul 30 2023 04:19 pm

DM> Re: Re: Hello World!
DM> By: candycane to Nightfox on Sun Jul 30 2023 04:00 pm

>> yea, i dont think ive heard ANYONE not pronounce "sys" as "siss"

DM> I usually say "sizz" (soft 's'). <shrug>
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DM> Rush quote #29:
DM> Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone
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close enough, heh ^^

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Re: Re: Hello World!
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Jul 30 2023 07:44 pm

MR> but back to the 90s... back then not everyone was online
MR> not everyone had a computer in the home. things were different.

MR> america online changed that because it was essentially a main stream bbs.

ohh neat so it was an underground scene
(still is nowadays ^^)

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