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|  |`* Re: Linux Growth in BrazilStéphane CARPENTIER
|  | `* Re: Linux Growth in Brazilchrisv
|  |  `* Re: Linux Growth in BrazilStéphane CARPENTIER
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|    `* Re: Linux Growth in BrazilStéphane CARPENTIER
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|     |  `* Re: Linux Growth in BrazilStéphane CARPENTIER
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|     `* Re: Linux Growth in Brazilchrisv
|      `* Re: Linux Growth in BrazilStéphane CARPENTIER
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|       |`- Re: Linux Growth in BrazilStéphane CARPENTIER
|       `* Re: Linux Growth in Brazilchrisv
|        `* Re: Linux Growth in BrazilStéphane CARPENTIER
|         `- Re: Linux Growth in Brazilchrisv
+* Re: Linux Growth in BrazilChris Ahlstrom
|`- Re: Linux Growth in BrazilRonB
`* Re: Linux Growth in BrazilTyrone
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Re: Linux Growth in Brazil

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 by: RonB - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:54 UTC

On 2024-02-10, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
> Le 10-02-2024, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> On 2024-02-09, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>>> Le 05-02-2024, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I don't like the way he knee-jerk calls anyone a liar who disagrees with
>>>> him. Something the coward would never do face to face.
>>>
>>> No, that's chrisv.
>>
>> In my case it's DuFuS.
>
> So, if it's in you case it's not calling anyone, it's calling you. From
> what I read from DFS, when he says someone is lying he provides a full
> history to back his claim. Maybe he said you were lying without evidence
> to change the subject but it's not in his habits with everyone. Unlike
> chrisv who claims everyone is lying any time he is at loss, which is
> quite often considering his lack of brain. Each time he is pissed off,
> he hide the message claiming he didn't read it and saying it's full of
> lies.

I'll take your word for it on your experiences with chrisv. DuFuS has called
me a liar just about every single time I say that Linux works well for me.
There's a long history of that on this newsgroup — long before you got here.
He's been in my killfile for years.

> Only once (from what I read, I don't read everything), he claimed
> something he believed without evidence and when I asked him the
> evidence, he acknowledged his mistake. It was when he said that I
> refused to consider Excel good and I prefer ooo only because it was
> FOSS. And when I asked him when I said ooo was good, he realised that I
> didn't and said the opposite, he acknowledged his mistake. So maybe
> sometimes he lies about others claims, but from what I saw, he has
> enough brain to be able to argue differently.

Your experience is different than mine with DuFuS then.

> And saying that FR/LP/DG/NV/whatever is lying is just pointing an
> obvious fact. Except if you consider being unable to tell the difference
> between dreams and reality isn't lying, which can be a valid point in
> the case of someone living in front of a black screen. I really don't
> understand how one can record a black screen when swearing and shooting.

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

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From: sc@fiat-linux.fr (Stéphane CARPENTIER)
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 by: Stéphane CARPENTIER - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:08 UTC

Le 10-02-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
> On 2/10/2024 9:11 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 10-02-2024, shitv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> a écrit :
>>> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like the way he knee-jerk calls anyone a liar who disagrees with
>>>>> him. Something the coward would never do face to face.
>>>>
>>>> No, that's chrisv.
>>>
>>> Really?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Won't be long before shitv asks you "Does your mother know what a piece
> of shit she raised?"

Now, he won't because he will pretend he didn't read me anymore.

> As you know, he's a frothing, red-faced kindergartener

It's possible, but I don't know it for sure.

> that has no control over his emotions.

It's more about being overwhelmed by his emotions when he's unable to
answer. Which is, considering his negative IQ, quite often.

> This is what he posted to cola in one month (June 2012)

So, at this time he was able to write "fuck" and its derivatives
correctly. Something append since then but not in a good way.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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 by: chrisv - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 18:39 UTC

Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>>Which one of us, totally unprovoked and without evidence,
>>accused the other of lying, "Stéphane"?
>>
>>That would be you, loser. Asshole. Liar.
>
> (snipped, unread)

What made you think that you could beat me with your lies, "Stéphane"?

Every decent person saw that you accused me without evidence, and
would not back down even after I politely explained where I read the
things that I was talking about. You exposed yourself as a shitty
person, "Stéphane", just another USENET loser with no dignity or
self-respect.

Like DumFSck. He's another inferior being who has chosen to make his
word worthless.

Your response to that dumb fsck was deleted, unread, of course.

--
"It's funny to see someone lying openly saying the other is a liar."
- lying piece of shit "Stéphane CARPENTIER", being funny

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 by: chrisv - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:00 UTC

Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>Unlike chrisv who claims everyone is lying any time he is at loss,

That's a ridiculous lie, of course.

>which is quite often considering his lack of brain.

Poor "Stéphane". At least I have the brains to not embarrass myself
in public, like you did.

You really should have evidence, before you accuse someone of lying,
"Stéphane". Everyone saw what you did.

>Each time he is pissed off, he hide the message claiming he didn't read it

"Stéphane" seems to think that his made-up fantasies and lies are
"winning strategies".

>and saying it's full of lies.

Of course I have never simultaneously claimed that I didn't read
something and that it's full of lies. "Stéphane" is lying, again.

Although it is a pretty good assumption that a loser's response to one
of my beat-downs is full of lies. Losers like "Stéphane" *lie* to
attack, when they are beaten.

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 by: chrisv - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:03 UTC

RonB wrote:

>I'll take your word for it on your experiences with chrisv.

(rolling eyes)

I've only been posting in here for 25 years.

>DuFuS has called
>me a liar just about every single time I say that Linux works well for me.

DumFSck is a *shameless* liar, and *everyone* who is not brain-dead
and has been paying attention knows it.

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 by: Stéphane CARPENTIER - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 21:10 UTC

Le 10-02-2024, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>Which one of us, totally unprovoked and without evidence,
>>>accused the other of lying, "Stéphane"?
>>>
>>>That would be you, loser. Asshole. Liar.
>>
>> (snipped, unread)
>
> What made you think that you could beat me with your lies, "Stéphane"?

You beat yourself, I don't need lies for that.

> Every decent person saw that you accused me without evidence,

The evidence is in any of your messages. I just reply to them.

> Your response to that dumb fsck was deleted, unread, of course.

Of course you read it, it's obvious. You always cut the parts that piss
you off. It can't be mere chance. It's on purpose because you read it.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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 by: Stéphane CARPENTIER - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 21:22 UTC

Le 10-02-2024, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>Unlike chrisv who claims everyone is lying any time he is at loss,
>
> That's a ridiculous lie, of course.

You see, you did it. Once again. It's to easy. And now, you'll have to
pretend you don't see my answer.

>>which is quite often considering his lack of brain.
>
> Poor "Stéphane". At least I have the brains to not embarrass myself
> in public, like you did.

You shouldn't be that sure you don't embarrass yourself in public.

> You really should have evidence, before you accuse someone of lying,
> "Stéphane". Everyone saw what you did.

Yes, I show the evidence in answering your message.

>>Each time he is pissed off, he hide the message claiming he didn't read it
>
> "Stéphane" seems to think that his made-up fantasies and lies are
> "winning strategies".

I have no winning strategies because I don't try to win anything against
you. You just loose alone against yourself. I just show it.

>>and saying it's full of lies.
>
> Of course I have never simultaneously claimed that I didn't read
> something and that it's full of lies.

Of course you did. A lot of times. When I show you the evidence, you
pretend you didn't read it but it doesn't mean the evidence doesn't
exist.

> "Stéphane" is lying, again.

You see, I'm right. Once again. You prove it yourself.

> Although it is a pretty good assumption that a loser's response to one
> of my beat-downs is full of lies. Losers like "Stéphane" *lie* to
> attack, when they are beaten.

I missed the part when you beat me.

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 by: chrisv - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 22:37 UTC

Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

Here is how Stéphane showed himself to be a fscking asshole who is
undeserving of respect, folks. (Sorry for opening up old wounds with
Slimer, but it must be done.)

Here is the post where Slimer lied about me of having "No
understanding of Christianity":

<bqcqH.256030$d95.104015@fx06.iad>

I read the above post and responded with a "snip lies" in this post:

<34miqf9asprtjfbl9l4dokuep0fd4iu9lm@4ax.com>

Slimer responded to the above "snip lies" post. I replied to that, in
that same thread, with this "snipped, unread" post, obviously
responding to the lie that I had previously read and snipped:

<rdsiqf9j9c6c0bpo5n2h80ur7bfog68elr@4ax.com>

28 minutes later, in a different thread, I "snipped, unread" a Slimer
post and then COPIED AND PASTED the post that I had made only 28
minutes earlier, here:

<g3uiqfpg053ere2p8gnhvjk658pau98n29@4ax.com>

Inexplicably and without provocation, Stéphane attacked me, saying
"That's a lie because you couldn't answer that if you didn't read him"
and "It's funny to see someone lying openly saying the other is a
liar."

<slrnrqjfso.u5.sc@scarpet42p.localdomain>

Despite having just being accused of being a ridiculous, "open" liar,
I wanted to cut Stéphane some slack and give him a chance to back down
gracefully. I politely explained that I was talking about some recent
accusations in a different thread. I even provided message ID's as
proof:

<236lqfdnmkqeoho8sjb17ibdki6hhe2g52@4ax.com>

Despite having _no_ reason to suspect that I was a dishonest person,
despite having _no_ evidence of my reading what I claimed to have not,
despite my _polite and thorough_ explanation, Stéphane doubled-down,
accusing me of being a liar.

It was only then that I lost all respect for "Stéphane", and tore him
a new asshole.

To this day he would rather puff up his chest and call me a liar,
rather than be man and admit that he fucked up and should not have
accused me.

If he ever wants to be a man and apologize, he can start a new thread
where he indicates his intentions in the subject. Or he can respond
to a "benign" post of mine. As we have seen, I don't read his
responses to my beat-downs of him. Only assholery and lies are
expected, and I don't want to read it.

Hell, I routinely prove that I don't care what unreasonable dipshits
write, by declaring in advance that I won't read responses. All
future "Stéphane" posts in this thread will be deleted, unread and
without notice.

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Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

Consider becoming a man, "Stéphane".

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On 2024-02-10, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>
>>I'll take your word for it on your experiences with chrisv.
>
> (rolling eyes)
>
> I've only been posting in here for 25 years.
>
>>DuFuS has called
>>me a liar just about every single time I say that Linux works well for me.
>
> DumFSck is a *shameless* liar, and *everyone* who is not brain-dead
> and has been paying attention knows it.

My killfile works pretty well to mute his bullshit. Sometimes I still it
when others reply to him.

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

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 by: Stéphane CARPENTIER - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 23:28 UTC

Le 10-02-2024, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> (snipped, unread)
>
> Here is how Stéphane showed himself to be a fscking asshole who is
> undeserving of respect, folks. (Sorry for opening up old wounds with
> Slimer, but it must be done.)

You are really funny. So, you didn't read my message but you know what's
in there and what to answer? You asked someone? You are inspired by God?
Or maybe you are just lying? Be careful there is a trap.

> Here is the post where Slimer lied about me of having "No
> understanding of Christianity":

I don't care about the religious/political/historical/whatever crap
posted here. I don't read those messages (sometimes I read one by
mistake but rarely to the end).

> 28 minutes later, in a different thread, I "snipped, unread" a Slimer
> post and then COPIED AND PASTED the post that I had made only 28
> minutes earlier, here:

Your life is very exciting.

> Inexplicably and without provocation, Stéphane attacked me,

I didn't attack you, I answered your message explaining why the way
you are answering is stupid.

> saying
> "That's a lie because you couldn't answer that if you didn't read him"
> and

Yes, like the message I am answering. Once again. By picking the right
message to answer you need to know what's in there.

> "It's funny to see someone lying openly saying the other is a
> liar."

Yes, I have a lot of fun reading and answering your messages. Not as
much as reading and answering LP/NV/FR/DG/whatever but you can't compete
and at least he's almost always speaking about something related to
Linux.

> Despite having just being accused of being a ridiculous, "open" liar,

It's not an accusation: I just show a plain fact.

> As we have seen,

Who are "we"? Who else beside you? You are not alone in your head? It
could explain a lot. You can have someone in your head who read the
messages and someone else who answer them. That would be an explanation
proving you are not lying but having a bigger problem.

> I don't read his responses to my beat-downs of him.

I missed the parts with the beat-downs.

> and I don't want to read it.

Good idea. You should hold on it. For real. It would be better for your
mental health.

> Hell, I routinely prove that I don't care

Your message prove that you care a lot: it is very long. it took you
time to write and to look for the ID of previous messages. Once again,
when you claim something, don't show the opposite.

> what unreasonable dipshits
> write, by declaring in advance that I won't read responses. All
> future "Stéphane" posts in this thread will be deleted, unread and
> without notice.

God idea. Will you be able to do it?

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chrisv wrote:

>Despite having _no_ reason to suspect that I was a dishonest person,
>despite having _no_ evidence of my reading what I claimed to have not,
>despite my _polite and thorough_ explanation, Stéphane doubled-down,
>accusing me of being a liar.

I also should have mentioned that there is _no_ motivation for me to
do what I was accused of. Seriously, why the *fsck* would I deny
reading something, and then respond to it? What *possible* gain would
that get me?

But dumbshits like "Stéphane" often don't think things through, before
going on the attack.

>It was only then that I lost all respect for "Stéphane", and tore him
>a new asshole.

He's butthurt to this day! He seems to be *proud* of his continuing,
made-up, evidence-free attacks, that only show him to be a lying
loser.

"chrisv isn't really snipping unread and for the reasons that he has
given! He's really at a loss and pissed off so he pretends to not
have read it!"

Evidence for the charge? Zero. Wishful thinking from a loser? Lots.

So odd, that he'd rather be a public dipshit than be a respectable
man.

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 by: RabidPedagog - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 13:36 UTC

On 2024-02-10 5:37 p.m., chrisv wrote:
> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> (snipped, unread)
>
> Here is how Stéphane showed himself to be a fscking asshole who is
> undeserving of respect, folks. (Sorry for opening up old wounds with
> Slimer, but it must be done.)

No harm done. I'd have to be very thin-skinned to get upset at such things.

--
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