[In order not to bore/bother the Slackware audience:]
[Followup-To: news.software.readers]

Peter J Ross <pjr@example.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-01-15, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

[Thanks for the info.]

> > My newsreader is tin and its pager (at least the one in this very old
> > version) does not wrap long lines. But my 'terminal' (actually a
> > (Windows) 'Command Prompt' window) does 'character'-wrapping at the edge
> > of the window. I would like if the tin pager could do word-wrapping.
>
> Why not submit a feature request to the tin developers? Of course,
> you'll need to check that later versions of tin don't already include
> the feature.

Yes, I'll have to check the tin CHANGES file(s), but because my
version is *very* old (from 2003), that's quite a lot of work (probably
not if tin consistently uses the term 'pager').

I was hoping that Urs would trigger on the use of the word 'tin' in my
posting, as he often does. But if not, I'll have to get off my lazy
butt.

(My excuses for my old version: Don't fix what ain't broken and - more
importantly - I run tin under Cygwin on (MS) Windows and updating
Cygwin's tin or/and Cygwin itself is hard for me. I just don't quite
'get' how to update only what needs the be updated and leave the rest
untouched, That's not Cygwin's fault, just mine. (Yes, I made notes on
how I did it the last time, but it's still hard.))

> OT: It's good to see that you're alive and (I hope) well, Frank. It must
> be at least 15 years since we first debated the relative merits of our
> preferred newsreaders.

Thanks. Yes, still mostly well, knock on wood. Good to see you too!
Your familiar intials popping up in the last few days. :-)

And indeed over 15 years. My 'posted' file gives a (June 5) 2005 date,
but that file starts 'only' in (May) 2004. My earlier posting history is
probably only on some DDS tape somewhere! :-) I think we go back, much
longer than that.

In news.software.readers Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> My newsreader is tin and its pager (at least the one in this very old
> version) does not wrap long lines. But my 'terminal' (actually a
> (Windows) 'Command Prompt' window) does 'character'-wrapping at the edge
> of the window. I would like if the tin pager could do word-wrapping.

Hard to say what you mean by "very old version" but doesn't control-T (while
in post mode) bring up something like this?

T Overtype OFF I Autoindent OFF Word wrap OFF
D Tab width 8 Left margin 1 Right margin 77
X Rectangle mode OFF Case insensitivity OFF Search wraps OFF
Menu explorer ON Autoswap mode OFF Indent char 32
Indent step 2 french spacing OFF Highlighting ON
no tabs OFF Center on scroll OFF Auto detect CR-LF ON
Guess indent ON Z CR-LF (MS-DOS) OFF N Line numbers OFF
Marking OFF Meta chars as-is OFF Force last NL OFF
Disable backups OFF Auto unmark OFF Exit ask OFF

The word wrap is 3rd column, first row. Never did figure out how to default
it to ON.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

In alt.os.linux.slackware bje@ripco.com wrote:
> In news.software.readers Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>> My newsreader is tin and its pager (at least the one in this very old
>> version) does not wrap long lines. But my 'terminal' (actually a
>> (Windows) 'Command Prompt' window) does 'character'-wrapping at the edge
>> of the window. I would like if the tin pager could do word-wrapping.
>
> Hard to say what you mean by "very old version" but doesn't control-T (while
> in post mode) bring up something like this?
>
> T Overtype OFF I Autoindent OFF Word wrap OFF
> D Tab width 8 Left margin 1 Right margin 77
> X Rectangle mode OFF Case insensitivity OFF Search wraps OFF
> Menu explorer ON Autoswap mode OFF Indent char 32
> Indent step 2 french spacing OFF Highlighting ON
> no tabs OFF Center on scroll OFF Auto detect CR-LF ON
> Guess indent ON Z CR-LF (MS-DOS) OFF N Line numbers OFF
> Marking OFF Meta chars as-is OFF Force last NL OFF
> Disable backups OFF Auto unmark OFF Exit ask OFF
>
> The word wrap is 3rd column, first row. Never did figure out how to default
> it to ON.

That looks like joe (Joe's Own Editor). If yes, then in the "editor
invocation" setting, add "-wordwrap". You can also add "-rmargin 72"
to get a right margin of 72 characters when invoking from your news
reader.

In my tin here, it is line item 106 in the "menu of options" (M [upper
case M]), and the full entry looks like this:

106 Invocation of your editor : %E -wordwrap -rmargin 72 +%N %F

bje@ripco.com wrote:
> In news.software.readers Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > My newsreader is tin and its pager (at least the one in this very old
> > version) does not wrap long lines. But my 'terminal' (actually a
> > (Windows) 'Command Prompt' window) does 'character'-wrapping at the edge
> > of the window. I would like if the tin pager could do word-wrapping.
>
> Hard to say what you mean by "very old version" but doesn't control-T (while
> in post mode) bring up something like this?

Sorry, but the subject is about (word) wrapping text while *reading* -
not composing/editing - articles. See my reference to the "pager", i.e.
output, not input.

> T Overtype OFF I Autoindent OFF Word wrap OFF
> D Tab width 8 Left margin 1 Right margin 77
> X Rectangle mode OFF Case insensitivity OFF Search wraps OFF
> Menu explorer ON Autoswap mode OFF Indent char 32
> Indent step 2 french spacing OFF Highlighting ON
> no tabs OFF Center on scroll OFF Auto detect CR-LF ON
> Guess indent ON Z CR-LF (MS-DOS) OFF N Line numbers OFF
> Marking OFF Meta chars as-is OFF Force last NL OFF
> Disable backups OFF Auto unmark OFF Exit ask OFF
>
> The word wrap is 3rd column, first row. Never did figure out how to default
> it to ON.

As Rich mentions, those are probably the settings of your editor, i.e.
indeed composing an article, not reading articles.

FYI, for composing/editing, I use the vim editor and vim can also do
word-wrapping.

But as said, my question is about (word) wrapping while reading
(mostly other people's) articles.

In news.software.readers Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> Sorry, but the subject is about (word) wrapping text while *reading* -
> not composing/editing - articles. See my reference to the "pager", i.e.
> output, not input.

Yeah, sorry about that, I was wrong all the way around.

It's been so long since I compiled it, I forgot the editor tin used was called
from environmental variables.

As they say "Never mind".

-bruce
bje@ripco.com