On 2022-07-25 3:02 p.m., Char Jackson wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 11:17:06 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
> <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:31:53 -0500, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my easy to see doctored version..
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/PNsy191x/image.png
>>
>> No comment on the calculator, but looking at your desktop and I love
>> seeing that somebody has almost as many drives as me. I mean, why
>> limit yourself to just C:\ when there are so many letters in the
>> alphabet? ;-)
>
> Instead of a bunch of individual drives (volumes), each with its own
> letter, I pool my drives and use a single letter. At the moment, I'm
> doing an upgrade that will increase the size of my drive pool from 36TB
> to 66TB, all under a single volume known as D:.
>
> 36: 12+12+4+4+4
> 66: 12+12+14+14+14
>

Your needs and use far outweigh mine, I am retired and just do the
regular mundane stuff as I don't collect videos or movies I don't need a
lot of disk storage.

Rene

On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:02:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 11:17:06 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:31:53 -0500, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Here is my easy to see doctored version..
>>>https://i.postimg.cc/PNsy191x/image.png
>>
>>No comment on the calculator, but looking at your desktop and I love
>>seeing that somebody has almost as many drives as me. I mean, why
>>limit yourself to just C:\ when there are so many letters in the
>>alphabet? ;-)
>
>Instead of a bunch of individual drives (volumes), each with its own
>letter, I pool my drives and use a single letter. At the moment, I'm
>doing an upgrade that will increase the size of my drive pool from 36TB
>to 66TB, all under a single volume known as D:.
>
>36: 12+12+4+4+4
>66: 12+12+14+14+14

You have the world's biggest pool. You must be an Olympic swimmer.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:57:33 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:02:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 11:17:06 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:31:53 -0500, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here is my easy to see doctored version..
>>>>https://i.postimg.cc/PNsy191x/image.png
>>>
>>>No comment on the calculator, but looking at your desktop and I love
>>>seeing that somebody has almost as many drives as me. I mean, why
>>>limit yourself to just C:\ when there are so many letters in the
>>>alphabet? ;-)
>>
>>Instead of a bunch of individual drives (volumes), each with its own
>>letter, I pool my drives and use a single letter. At the moment, I'm
>>doing an upgrade that will increase the size of my drive pool from 36TB
>>to 66TB, all under a single volume known as D:.
>>
>>36: 12+12+4+4+4
>>66: 12+12+14+14+14
>
>
>You have the world's biggest pool. You must be an Olympic swimmer.

I don't know about that but I think I might have some excess capacity
when I retire, whenever that is.

Zaghadka wrote:

> Best to leave it be.

I thank the folks who kindly and good heartedly contributed to the details
in this thread because now I have two calculators easily accessed!

This instantly brings up the default Windows vanilla calculator:
Win+R > calc

This now brings up the suggested Moffsoft rainbow calculator... :)
Win+R > fcalc

Normally I don't type "Win+R" because the Run box is an icon in my taskbar.

The setup for these commands is trivial using the "AppPaths" registry key.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths

On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 19:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:57:33 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:02:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 11:17:06 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
>>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:31:53 -0500, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Here is my easy to see doctored version..
>>>>>https://i.postimg.cc/PNsy191x/image.png
>>>>
>>>>No comment on the calculator, but looking at your desktop and I love
>>>>seeing that somebody has almost as many drives as me. I mean, why
>>>>limit yourself to just C:\ when there are so many letters in the
>>>>alphabet? ;-)
>>>
>>>Instead of a bunch of individual drives (volumes), each with its own
>>>letter, I pool my drives and use a single letter. At the moment, I'm
>>>doing an upgrade that will increase the size of my drive pool from 36TB
>>>to 66TB, all under a single volume known as D:.
>>>
>>>36: 12+12+4+4+4
>>>66: 12+12+14+14+14
>>
>>
>>You have the world's biggest pool. You must be an Olympic swimmer.
>
>I don't know about that but I think I might have some excess capacity
>when I retire, whenever that is.

Dunno. I have been retired for 26 years and I have over a terabyte of
data spinning and more on removable media

On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 22:23:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 19:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:57:33 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:02:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 11:17:06 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
>>>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:31:53 -0500, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is my easy to see doctored version..
>>>>>>https://i.postimg.cc/PNsy191x/image.png
>>>>>
>>>>>No comment on the calculator, but looking at your desktop and I love
>>>>>seeing that somebody has almost as many drives as me. I mean, why
>>>>>limit yourself to just C:\ when there are so many letters in the
>>>>>alphabet? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Instead of a bunch of individual drives (volumes), each with its own
>>>>letter, I pool my drives and use a single letter. At the moment, I'm
>>>>doing an upgrade that will increase the size of my drive pool from 36TB
>>>>to 66TB, all under a single volume known as D:.
>>>>
>>>>36: 12+12+4+4+4
>>>>66: 12+12+14+14+14
>>>
>>>
>>>You have the world's biggest pool. You must be an Olympic swimmer.
>>
>>I don't know about that but I think I might have some excess capacity
>>when I retire, whenever that is.
>
>Dunno. I have been retired for 26 years and I have over a terabyte of
>data spinning and more on removable media

I'll have 66TB on my desktop PC and a measly 36TB on my server. I'd
gladly trade in all of these spinning drives for a pair of 100TB SSDs,
m.2 of course, but we're not there yet.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 22:23:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 19:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:57:33 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:02:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 11:17:06 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
>>>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:31:53 -0500, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is my easy to see doctored version..
>>>>>>https://i.postimg.cc/PNsy191x/image.png
>>>>>
>>>>>No comment on the calculator, but looking at your desktop and I love
>>>>>seeing that somebody has almost as many drives as me. I mean, why
>>>>>limit yourself to just C:\ when there are so many letters in the
>>>>>alphabet? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Instead of a bunch of individual drives (volumes), each with its own
>>>>letter, I pool my drives and use a single letter. At the moment, I'm
>>>>doing an upgrade that will increase the size of my drive pool from 36TB
>>>>to 66TB, all under a single volume known as D:.
>>>>
>>>>36: 12+12+4+4+4
>>>>66: 12+12+14+14+14
>>>
>>>
>>>You have the world's biggest pool. You must be an Olympic swimmer.
>>
>>I don't know about that but I think I might have some excess capacity
>>when I retire, whenever that is.
>
>Dunno. I have been retired for 26 years and I have over a terabyte of
>data spinning and more on removable media

I've been retired for 29 years and I have only .5TB of data (not
spinning; NvME).

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 02:26:35 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 22:23:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 19:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:57:33 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:02:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 11:17:06 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
>>>>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:31:53 -0500, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here is my easy to see doctored version..
>>>>>>>https://i.postimg.cc/PNsy191x/image.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No comment on the calculator, but looking at your desktop and I love
>>>>>>seeing that somebody has almost as many drives as me. I mean, why
>>>>>>limit yourself to just C:\ when there are so many letters in the
>>>>>>alphabet? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Instead of a bunch of individual drives (volumes), each with its own
>>>>>letter, I pool my drives and use a single letter. At the moment, I'm
>>>>>doing an upgrade that will increase the size of my drive pool from 36TB
>>>>>to 66TB, all under a single volume known as D:.
>>>>>
>>>>>36: 12+12+4+4+4
>>>>>66: 12+12+14+14+14
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You have the world's biggest pool. You must be an Olympic swimmer.
>>>
>>>I don't know about that but I think I might have some excess capacity
>>>when I retire, whenever that is.
>>
>>Dunno. I have been retired for 26 years and I have over a terabyte of
>>data spinning and more on removable media
>
>I'll have 66TB on my desktop PC and a measly 36TB on my server. I'd
>gladly trade in all of these spinning drives for a pair of 100TB SSDs,
>m.2 of course, but we're not there yet.

102TB! You're well on your way to being the first person with a
petabyte of data!

On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:44:37 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:39:05 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I suppose it's possible that even if we hadn't written to Moffsoft, we
>>would have gotten the registration info from them in a day or two.
>>Maybe it just takes a little while for PayPal to send the payment info
>>to them, so they can then send the registration info to their
>>customer. But if that's case, it should say that on the Moffsoft web
>>site.
>
>Or maybe I didn't get an immediate e-mail message with the
>registration info from Moffsoft because today is Sunday, and I'll get
>it tomorrow.

I finally got a reply about half an hour ago, Everything is fine now.
I'm registered.

Jeff Moffett apologized for taking so long. He had Covid.

Just curious. Do you know? Is Moffsoft a one-man company?

On 7/19/2022 11:52 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> As I have been looking for a better calculator than Windows offering for
> a long time,Someone in these 3 newsgroups in the last couple weeks
> mentioned 'Moffsoft calculator" I can't  find that post but Thanks to
> whoever mentioned it.

It seems like for the sort of computing most people do, an Excel
spreadsheet would work pretty well. For example, enter a column of
numbers and simply sum them. Since you can see all of the numbers, the
double checking
is built in, and you can even save a copy if you'd like to edit it
later. I've got one for my "household expenses", not only do I have
totals by month and year (which are really only useful for the sake of
planning and comparison) but I have phone numbers, model numbers,
contractor names and notes, etc. It's handy when you need parts for
this or that. I do the same thing for each car too, but just with a
pencil and a lined paper booklet like you can get at a discount store.
I don't think I've ever computed a sum for my car expenses, but it's
nice to be able to see how many months and/or miles you have on your
car's air filter, or to estimate your MPG. YMMV! : )

On 7/27/22 22:43, this is what Bill wrote:
> I don't think I've ever computed a sum for my car expenses, but it's nice to be able to see how many months and/or miles
> you have on your car's air filter, or to estimate your MPG.  YMMV!  : )

I'm not sure what made me look, TV or email article, but I have a 6 yr old car. I was told 'change the air filter every
5 yrs', so I bought one, then changed it. Was I glad, it was filthy, dark gray. Whew!

And my wife spread sheets tons of things. As were baby boomers, especially medical items, meds, doc visits etc.

Al

On 7/28/2022 8:12 AM, Big Al wrote:
>
> On 7/27/22 22:43, this is what Bill wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever computed a sum for my car expenses, but it's
>> nice to be able to see how many months and/or miles you have on your
>> car's air filter, or to estimate your MPG.  YMMV!  : )
>
> I'm not sure what made me look, TV or email article, but I have a 6 yr
> old car.  I was told 'change the air filter every 5 yrs', so I bought
> one, then changed it.   Was I glad, it was filthy, dark gray.  Whew!

The rule of thumb I heard was every year or 12,000, but I use my
(second) car so little I mostly use the mileage as a guide.
When I changed my wife's "cabin air filter", she noticed a dramatic
improvement in her A/C performance. For whatever reason, I think that
was the "priciest" air filter I ever bought (about triple the price of a
regular one, maybe because it was a special order). You might wish to
check whether your car has a cabin air filter too.

>
> And my wife spread sheets tons of things.  As were baby boomers,
> especially medical items, meds, doc visits etc.
>
> Al

On 7/28/22 09:10, this is what Bill wrote:
> On 7/28/2022 8:12 AM, Big Al wrote:
>>
>> On 7/27/22 22:43, this is what Bill wrote:
>>> I don't think I've ever computed a sum for my car expenses, but it's nice to be able to see how many months and/or
>>> miles you have on your car's air filter, or to estimate your MPG.  YMMV!  : )
>>
>> I'm not sure what made me look, TV or email article, but I have a 6 yr old car.  I was told 'change the air filter
>> every 5 yrs', so I bought one, then changed it.   Was I glad, it was filthy, dark gray.  Whew!
>
> The rule of thumb I heard was every year or 12,000, but I use my (second) car so little I mostly use the mileage as a
> guide.
> When I changed my wife's "cabin air filter", she noticed a dramatic improvement in her A/C performance. For whatever
> reason, I think that
> was the "priciest" air filter I ever bought (about triple the price of a regular one, maybe because it was a special
> order). You might wish to check whether your car has a cabin air filter too.
>
>
>
>>
>> And my wife spread sheets tons of things.  As were baby boomers, especially medical items, meds, doc visits etc.
>>
>> Al
>
Sorry, didn't state the fact that it WAS the cabin air filter I changed. I didn't notice better air, but it has to help!

On 7/28/2022 10:00 AM, Big Al wrote:

> Sorry, didn't state the fact that it WAS the cabin air filter I
> changed.   I didn't notice better air, but it has to help!
>

Yes, the difference in the amount of air coming out of the vent was very
noticeable.

On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 22:43:19 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:

>On 7/19/2022 11:52 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>> As I have been looking for a better calculator than Windows offering for
>> a long time,Someone in these 3 newsgroups in the last couple weeks
>> mentioned 'Moffsoft calculator" I can't  find that post but Thanks to
>> whoever mentioned it.
>
>It seems like for the sort of computing most people do, an Excel
>spreadsheet would work pretty well. For example, enter a column of
>numbers and simply sum them. Since you can see all of the numbers, the
>double checking
>is built in, and you can even save a copy if you'd like to edit it
>later.

Yes, you can do that, but as far as I'm concerned using a calculator
program, whether Moffsoft or any other one, is much easier than
building a spreadsheet, whether Excel or any other spreadsheet
program.

>I've got one for my "household expenses", not only do I have
>totals by month and year (which are really only useful for the sake of
>planning and comparison) but I have phone numbers, model numbers,
>contractor names and notes, etc. It's handy when you need parts for
>this or that.

Yes, again, you can do that with a spreadsheet. But I have all that
kind of information in Quicken, which is a much better and easier way
to do it, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm reminded of a vice president in a company I used to work for who
used Lotus 123 to do word processing. Yes. it worked for him, but it
was clearly a very poor choice of software.

>I do the same thing for each car too, but just with a
>pencil and a lined paper booklet like you can get at a discount store.
>I don't think I've ever computed a sum for my car expenses, but it's
>nice to be able to see how many months and/or miles you have on your
>car's air filter, or to estimate your MPG.

My car keeps track of my MPG automatically. I don't have to do
anything.

>YMMV! : )

My mileage varies a lot. <G>

On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 06:39:24 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:44:37 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 12:39:05 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I suppose it's possible that even if we hadn't written to Moffsoft, we
>>>would have gotten the registration info from them in a day or two.
>>>Maybe it just takes a little while for PayPal to send the payment info
>>>to them, so they can then send the registration info to their
>>>customer. But if that's case, it should say that on the Moffsoft web
>>>site.
>>
>>Or maybe I didn't get an immediate e-mail message with the
>>registration info from Moffsoft because today is Sunday, and I'll get
>>it tomorrow.
>
>
>I finally got a reply about half an hour ago, Everything is fine now.
>I'm registered.
>
>Jeff Moffett apologized for taking so long. He had Covid.
>
>Just curious. Do you know? Is Moffsoft a one-man company?

I asked Jeff, and I just got a reply. Yes, he's a one-man company.

On 7/28/2022 11:50 AM, Ken Blake wrote:

> Yes, you can do that, but as far as I'm concerned using a calculator
> program, whether Moffsoft or any other one, is much easier than
> building a spreadsheet, whether Excel or any other spreadsheet
> program.

I can double click on my Excel shortcut, enter 10 numbers in a column,
and sum them in about the time it would take you to use your
calculator--but more importantly, I could double-check the sum
with a glance.

As far as Quicken, I would declare that I am an "Intuit avoider", except
I just checked and Intuit divested them in 2016. : )

On 7/28/2022 11:51 AM, Ken Blake wrote:

>> Just curious. Do you know? Is Moffsoft a one-man company?
>
> I asked Jeff, and I just got a reply. Yes, he's a one-man company.

Writing a "calculator program" is a pretty standard programming problem
for computer science majors. It's direct and effective for teaching how
to use and construct a "GUI" (graphical user interface). I have little
doubt that the Moffsoft version is much more sophisticated.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 23:51:49 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:

>On 7/28/2022 11:50 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
>
>> Yes, you can do that, but as far as I'm concerned using a calculator
>> program, whether Moffsoft or any other one, is much easier than
>> building a spreadsheet, whether Excel or any other spreadsheet
>> program.
>
>I can double click on my Excel shortcut, enter 10 numbers in a column,
>and sum them in about the time it would take you to use your
>calculator--but more importantly, I could double-check the sum
>with a glance.

OK, your choice.

>As far as Quicken, I would declare that I am an "Intuit avoider", except
>I just checked and Intuit divested them in 2016. : )

OK, again--your choice.

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> on Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:59:52 -0700
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 23:51:49 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
>
>>On 7/28/2022 11:50 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, you can do that, but as far as I'm concerned using a calculator
>>> program, whether Moffsoft or any other one, is much easier than
>>> building a spreadsheet, whether Excel or any other spreadsheet
>>> program.
>>I can double click on my Excel shortcut, enter 10 numbers in a column,
>>and sum them in about the time it would take you to use your
>>calculator--but more importantly, I could double-check the sum
>>with a glance.
>OK, your choice.
>>As far as Quicken, I would declare that I am an "Intuit avoider", except
>>I just checked and Intuit divested them in 2016. : )
>
>OK, again--your choice.

back in ought five, Quicken made "improvements" to the basic
program, which was so effective, I found nothing better.
Which is what I used for the next several years - nothing. Not
Quicken, nothing.

The bummer is realizing that all my financial records from those
years I did use Quicken, were no longer available to me. _Almost_
enough to make me want to go back to pen and paper....
--
pyotr filipivich
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Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
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