On a Ubuntu 22.04 desktop for some unknown reason I have a drop down
menu at the top of the login screen. In this menu I have

Ubuntu on Xorg
Ubuntu on (Wayland)
Ubuntu(Wayland)

The current desktop is Gnome.

Is there any way I can remove that drop down menu and or the listing so
as I get just a standard login screen. I have also tried to get
Automatic login working but it doesn't, and I wonder if it is because of
the said drop down menu.

I have spent many hours googling this and all I can find is how to
disable wayland.

Rob H wrote:
> Ubuntu on Xorg
> Ubuntu on (Wayland)
> Ubuntu(Wayland)
>
> The current desktop is Gnome.
>
> Is there any way I can remove that drop down menu and or the listing so
> as I get just a standard login screen. I have also tried to get
> Automatic login working but it doesn't, and I wonder if it is because of
> the said drop down menu.

Do you want your 'default' (automatic no menu) to be xorg or Wayland?

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Mike Easter

On 12/02/2023 16:34, Mike Easter wrote:
> Rob H wrote:
>> Ubuntu on Xorg
>> Ubuntu on (Wayland)
>> Ubuntu(Wayland)
>>
>> The current desktop is Gnome.
>>
>> Is there any way I can remove that drop down menu and or the listing
>> so as I get just a standard login screen. I have also tried to get
>> Automatic login working but it doesn't, and I wonder if it is because
>> of the said drop down menu.
>
> Do you want your 'default' (automatic no menu) to be xorg or Wayland?
>

Well whatever is the best for normal use, I don't mind as long as it
still looks like a Ubuntu desktop. It's not my machine but someone
else's here!

Rob H wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>> Do you want your 'default' (automatic no menu) to be xorg or Wayland?
>
> Well whatever is the best for normal use, I don't mind as long as it
> still looks like a Ubuntu desktop. It's not my machine but someone
> else's here!

But; my point is that the /purpose/ of the menu is to enable the user to
choose, so if you want to get rid of the menu, you are getting rid of
the choice.

That's 'fine' -- but it means that the choice needs to be made ahead of
time.

Historically, xorg has been the display. Developmentally it has taken
Wayland a very long time to work its way in and is still a work in
progress. From a practical perspective, personally I don't really 'care
about' the difference. There are 'complicated' articles which discuss
the details of the 'architectural' difference in the display tech.

If you just want to 'blindly' disable the choice, one method would be to
disable Wayland instead of disabling xorg.

My understanding is that you can do that in

/etc/gdm3/custom.conf

WaylandEnable=false

I'll experiment w/ a live Ub 22.04 and see.

--
Mike Easter

Mike Easter wrote:
> If you just want to 'blindly' disable the choice, one method would be to
> disable Wayland instead of disabling xorg.
>
> My understanding is that you can do that in
>
> /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
>
> WaylandEnable=false
>
> I'll experiment w/ a live Ub 22.04 and see.
>
I booted a live Ub 22.04 -- I don't like gnome :-/

It did /NOT/ give me the menu; I logged out and back in, still no menu.

I enabled the universe repo so I could add inxi and see inxi -G which
said my graphics were xorg.

So I looked into custom.conf as above and this is what my live showed
(between //):

//
# GDM configuration storage
# # See /usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas for a list of available options.

[daemon]
# Uncomment the line below to force the login screen to use Xorg
WaylandEnable=false

# Enabling automatic login
AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=ubuntu

# Enabling timed login
TimedLoginEnable=false
# TimedLogin = user1
# TimedLoginDelay = 10

[security]

[xdmcp]

[chooser]

[debug]
# Uncomment the line below to turn on debugging
# More verbose logs
# Additionally lets the X server dump core if it crashes
#Enable=true
//

So, in the live case, I didn't get a menu for two reasons; Wayland was
disabled and automatic login was enabled.

--
Mike Easter

On 12/02/2023 18:39, Mike Easter wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> If you just want to 'blindly' disable the choice, one method would be
>> to disable Wayland instead of disabling xorg.
>>
>> My understanding is that you can do that in
>>
>> /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
>>
>> WaylandEnable=false
>>
>> I'll experiment w/ a live Ub 22.04 and see.
>>
> I booted a live Ub 22.04 -- I don't like gnome :-/
>
> It did /NOT/ give me the menu; I logged out and back in, still no menu.
>
> I enabled the universe repo so I could add inxi and see inxi -G which
> said my graphics were xorg.
>
> So I looked into custom.conf as above and this is what my live showed
> (between //):
>
> //
> # GDM configuration storage
> #
> # See /usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas for a list of available options.
>
> [daemon]
> # Uncomment the line below to force the login screen to use Xorg
> WaylandEnable=false
>
> # Enabling automatic login
> AutomaticLoginEnable=true
> AutomaticLogin=ubuntu
>
> # Enabling timed login
> TimedLoginEnable=false
> #  TimedLogin = user1
> #  TimedLoginDelay = 10
>
> [security]
>
> [xdmcp]
>
> [chooser]
>
> [debug]
> # Uncomment the line below to turn on debugging
> # More verbose logs
> # Additionally lets the X server dump core if it crashes
> #Enable=true
> //
>
> So, in the live case, I didn't get a menu for two reasons; Wayland was
> disabled and automatic login was enabled.
>
>
In the Ubuntu machine there are no daemon headings.
All the headings are like this:
</schemas>
<schemas>

The version of Ubuntu is 22.04 LTS

On 12/02/2023 17:58, Mike Easter wrote:
> Rob H wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you want your 'default' (automatic no menu) to be xorg or Wayland?
>>
>> Well whatever is the best for normal use, I don't mind as long as it
>> still looks like a Ubuntu desktop. It's not my machine but someone
>> else's here!
>
> But; my point is that the /purpose/ of the menu is to enable the user to
> choose, so if you want to get rid of the menu, you are getting rid of
> the choice.
>
> That's 'fine' -- but it means that the choice needs to be made ahead of
> time.
>
> Historically, xorg has been the display.  Developmentally it has taken
> Wayland a very long time to work its way in and is still a work in
> progress.  From a practical perspective, personally I don't really 'care
> about' the difference.  There are 'complicated' articles which discuss
> the details of the 'architectural' difference in the display tech.
>
> If you just want to 'blindly' disable the choice, one method would be to
> disable Wayland instead of disabling xorg.
>
> My understanding is that you can do that in
>
> /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
>
> WaylandEnable=false
>
> I'll experiment w/ a live Ub 22.04 and see.
>
>
The particular user doesn't care about any ability to choose desktop
sessions. They only want one that does for them
All the user wants to do is use of emails, web surfing and FB.

Rob H wrote:
> In the Ubuntu machine there are no daemon headings.
> All the headings  are like this:
> </schemas>
> <schemas>

I don't understand what you are talking about.

Yet.

--
Mike Easter

On 12/02/2023 18:51, Mike Easter wrote:
> Rob H wrote:
>> In the Ubuntu machine there are no daemon headings.
>> All the headings  are like this:
>> </schemas>
>> <schemas>
>
> I don't understand what you are talking about.
>
> Yet.
>
I meant in the gdm.schemas file

You have this and I don't

usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas for a list of available options.

[daemon]
# Uncomment the line below to force the login screen to use Xorg
WaylandEnable=false

# Enabling automatic login
AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=ubuntu

# Enabling timed login
TimedLoginEnable=false
# TimedLogin = user1
# TimedLoginDelay = 10

On 12/02/2023 18:56, Rob H wrote:
> On 12/02/2023 18:51, Mike Easter wrote:
>> Rob H wrote:
>>> In the Ubuntu machine there are no daemon headings.
>>> All the headings  are like this:
>>> </schemas>
>>> <schemas>
>>
>> I don't understand what you are talking about.
>>
>> Yet.
>>
> I meant in the gdm.schemas file
>
> You have this and I don't
>
> usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas for a list of available options.
>
> [daemon]
> # Uncomment the line below to force the login screen to use Xorg
> WaylandEnable=false
>
> # Enabling automatic login
> AutomaticLoginEnable=true
> AutomaticLogin=ubuntu
>
> # Enabling timed login
> TimedLoginEnable=false
> #  TimedLogin = user1
> #  TimedLoginDelay = 10
>

Ok, I found it now here:
/etc/gdm3/custom.conf

Rob H wrote:
> Ok, I found it now here:
> /etc/gdm3/custom.conf

Good. Just in time; I was getting ready to 'redirect' you :-)

You saved me a transition from my usual machine to the gnome one.

--
Mike Easter

Mike Easter wrote:
> I don't like gnome :-/

As a 'trivial' example; the default gnome file manager does not have an
'intuitive' way to access the / dir. That is ridiculous.

One has to use the 'hidden' (down at the bottom of the L pane, offscreen
for some) 'Other locations' to expose 'Computer' device.

To me, that is 'unnatural'. Gnome strikes me as unnatural in other
ways, but I ascribe some of that to my preferences for and 'habits' w/
other DEs which do things differently than gnome.

--
Mike Easter

On 12/02/2023 19:27, Mike Easter wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> I don't like gnome :-/
>
> As a 'trivial' example; the default gnome file manager does not have an
> 'intuitive' way to access the / dir.  That is ridiculous.
>
> One has to use the 'hidden' (down at the bottom of the L pane, offscreen
> for some) 'Other locations' to expose 'Computer' device.
>
> To me, that is 'unnatural'.  Gnome strikes me as unnatural in other
> ways, but I ascribe some of that to my preferences for and 'habits' w/
> other DEs which do things differently than gnome.
>
>
>

Ok then so getting back to my OP, how can I get rid off the drop down
menu which has the choices. 1 choice will be enough for the said user

Rob H wrote:
> Ok then so getting back to my OP, how can I get rid off the drop down
> menu which has the choices. 1 choice will be enough for the said user

Since you found my example of the live

/etc/gdm3/custom.conf

why not configure yours like that and see if it will enable automatic
and disable wayland.

--
Mike Easter

On 12/02/2023 20:13, Mike Easter wrote:
> Rob H wrote:
>> Ok then so getting back to my OP, how can I get rid off the drop down
>> menu which has the choices. 1 choice will be enough for the said user
>
> Since you found my example of the live
>
> /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
>
> why not configure yours like that and see if it will enable automatic
> and disable wayland.
>

I have already disabled wayland as per my OP. That was all I could find
by google.
The drop down menu is still there and as I said I 'think' that is what
is stopping automatic login which the user wants

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:37:13 +0000
Rob H <rob@despammer.com> wrote:

> On a Ubuntu 22.04 desktop for some unknown reason I have a drop down
> menu at the top of the login screen. In this menu I have
>
> Ubuntu on Xorg
> Ubuntu on (Wayland)
> Ubuntu(Wayland)
>
> The current desktop is Gnome.
>
> Is there any way I can remove that drop down menu and or the listing
> so as I get just a standard login screen. I have also tried to get
> Automatic login working but it doesn't, and I wonder if it is because
> of the said drop down menu.
>
> I have spent many hours googling this and all I can find is how to
> disable wayland.

I don't believe automatically sign is was checked during installation,
or there wouldn't be a login screen.

On 12/02/2023 20:47, Johnny wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:37:13 +0000
> Rob H <rob@despammer.com> wrote:
>
>> On a Ubuntu 22.04 desktop for some unknown reason I have a drop down
>> menu at the top of the login screen. In this menu I have
>>
>> Ubuntu on Xorg
>> Ubuntu on (Wayland)
>> Ubuntu(Wayland)
>>
>> The current desktop is Gnome.
>>
>> Is there any way I can remove that drop down menu and or the listing
>> so as I get just a standard login screen. I have also tried to get
>> Automatic login working but it doesn't, and I wonder if it is because
>> of the said drop down menu.
>>
>> I have spent many hours googling this and all I can find is how to
>> disable wayland.
>
> I don't believe automatically sign is was checked during installation,
> or there wouldn't be a login screen.
>

I did set it for automatic login in 'users' and the slider button is
across to the right

Rob H wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>> why not configure yours like that and see if it will enable automatic
>> and disable wayland.
>
> I have already disabled wayland as per my OP. That was all I could find
> by google.

> The drop down menu is still there and as I said I 'think' that is what
> is stopping automatic login which the user wants

But MY custom.conf had more than just disable wayland. It *ALSO* had
automatic login:

> # Enabling automatic login
> AutomaticLoginEnable=true
> AutomaticLogin=ubuntu

.... of course that live user is 'ubuntu' which would be something else
for an installed user.

Also note the several sections (of mine posted earlier) which are
completely empty, such as [chooser] and others.

You should compare your entire custom.conf w/ my live's entire custom.conf

--
Mike Easter

On 12/02/2023 20:54, Mike Easter wrote:
> Rob H wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>
>>> why not configure yours like that and see if it will enable automatic
>>> and disable wayland.
>>
>> I have already disabled wayland as per my OP. That was all I could
>> find by google.
>
>> The drop down menu is still there and as I said I 'think' that is what
>> is stopping automatic login which the user wants
>
> But MY custom.conf had more than just disable wayland.  It *ALSO* had
> automatic login:
>
>> # Enabling automatic login
>> AutomaticLoginEnable=true
>> AutomaticLogin=ubuntu
>
> ... of course that live user is 'ubuntu' which would be something else
> for an installed user.
>
> Also note the several sections (of mine posted earlier) which are
> completely empty, such as [chooser] and others.
>
> You should compare your entire custom.conf w/ my live's entire custom.conf
>
I changed the custom.conf file in the gdm3 directory, rebooted the
ubuntu machine, and no difference. The drop down menu is STILL there,
and there is no automatic login.

I guess now it can' be done. (what I wanted)

Rob H wrote:
> I changed the custom.conf file in the gdm3 directory, rebooted the
> ubuntu machine, and no difference. The drop down menu is STILL there,
> and there is no automatic login.
>
> I guess now it can' be done. (what I wanted)

<https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-automatic-logon/>
--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 13/02/2023 12:44, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Rob H wrote:
>> I changed the custom.conf file in the gdm3 directory, rebooted the
>> ubuntu machine, and no difference. The drop down menu is STILL there,
>> and there is no automatic login.
>>
>> I guess now it can' be done. (what I wanted)
>
> <https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-automatic-logon/>

Thanks but Automatic login doesn't work on the said ubuntu machine, and
there sees to be no way of removing the drop down menu with the listings.

Rob H wrote:
>
> Thanks but Automatic login doesn't work on the said ubuntu machine, and
> there sees to be no way of removing the drop down menu with the listings.

I wonder if I can jigger around my live Ub to cause it to give me such a
menu.

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Mike Easter

Mike Easter wrote:
> Rob H wrote:
>>
>> Thanks but Automatic login doesn't work on the said ubuntu machine,
>> and there sees to be no way of removing the drop down menu with the
>> listings.
>
> I wonder if I can jigger around my live Ub to cause it to give me such a
> menu.
>
This page says I should have a cogwheel on the login screen, but the
live doesn't even after I add a user and pass.

https://beebom.com/how-switch-between-wayland-xorg-ubuntu/
How to Switch Between Wayland and Xorg in Ubuntu

I've enabled Wayland in the custom.conf but it only boots into xorg and
I don't get an option to login Wayland, no menu.

So, maybe I can't get such a menu in live. The default live which uses
user ubuntu doesn't show ubuntu as a user in the settings.

--
Mike Easter

On 13/02/2023 18:48, Mike Easter wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Rob H wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks but Automatic login doesn't work on the said ubuntu machine,
>>> and there sees to be no way of removing the drop down menu with the
>>> listings.
>>
>> I wonder if I can jigger around my live Ub to cause it to give me such
>> a menu.
>>
> This page says I should have a cogwheel on the login screen, but the
> live doesn't even after I add a user and pass.
>
> https://beebom.com/how-switch-between-wayland-xorg-ubuntu/
> How to Switch Between Wayland and Xorg in Ubuntu
>
> I've enabled Wayland in the custom.conf but it only boots into xorg and
> I don't get an option to login Wayland, no menu.
>
> So, maybe I can't get such a menu in live.  The default live which uses
> user ubuntu doesn't show ubuntu as a user in the settings.
>

Sods law eh?
You might say I'm lucky in one sense. I enabled wayland but changed xorg.

It's definitely strange why I get a drop down menu, and you don't.
Oh well.

Rob H wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> Rob H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks but Automatic login doesn't work on the said ubuntu machine,
>>>> and there sees to be no way of removing the drop down menu with the
>>>> listings.
>>>
>>> I wonder if I can jigger around my live Ub to cause it to give me
>>> such a menu.
>>>
>> This page says I should have a cogwheel on the login screen, but the
>> live doesn't even after I add a user and pass.
>>
>> https://beebom.com/how-switch-between-wayland-xorg-ubuntu/
>> How to Switch Between Wayland and Xorg in Ubuntu
>>
>> I've enabled Wayland in the custom.conf but it only boots into xorg
>> and I don't get an option to login Wayland, no menu.
>>
>> So, maybe I can't get such a menu in live.  The default live which
>> uses user ubuntu doesn't show ubuntu as a user in the settings.
>>
>
> Sods law eh?
> You might say I'm lucky in one sense. I enabled wayland but changed xorg.
>
> It's definitely strange why I get a drop down menu, and you don't.
> Oh well.

Also, absent that login menu which I'm finding impossible to enable, I
haven't been able to find command line instructions to enable wayland.

I can get out of the xorg gnome-session, but I can't get into a
gnome-session that is wayland.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31213773/how-to-start-gnome-wayland-session-from-command-line-tty
How to start GNOME Wayland session from command line/tty?

--
Mike Easter