On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
> Thanks Steve, I got it working!
>
> Regards,
>
> --Saku OH6PU

I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
"Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:

cs a
st cpcomm,,,0/security
0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
st silas,,,0/security
1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
KEY ERROR
Command:

I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.

WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
it has setting for host type OS2200.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Best regards,
Einar Flaathe

On Saturday, 29 April 2023 at 17:34:35 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
> > Thanks Steve, I got it working!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --Saku OH6PU
> I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
> "Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
> I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:
>
> cs a
> st cpcomm,,,0/security
> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
> st silas,,,0/security
> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
> putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
> KEY ERROR
> Command:
>
> I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.
>
> WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
> it has setting for host type OS2200.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> Einar Flaathe

I had another go - but it's still not working, viz:
ROS consol
cs a
st cpcomm,,,0/security
0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
st silas,,,0/security
1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
Command:

Microsoft Telnet> o
( to ) 127.0.0.3
Connecting To 127.0.0.3...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
Microsoft Telnet>

Einar

On 4/29/2023 2:53 PM, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> On Saturday, 29 April 2023 at 17:34:35 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
>> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
>>> Thanks Steve, I got it working!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --Saku OH6PU
>> I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
>> "Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
>> I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:
>>
>> cs a
>> st cpcomm,,,0/security
>> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
>> st silas,,,0/security
>> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
>> putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
>> KEY ERROR
>> Command:
>>
>> I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.
>>
>> WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
>> it has setting for host type OS2200.
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Einar Flaathe
>
> I had another go - but it's still not working, viz:
> ROS consol
> cs a
> st cpcomm,,,0/security
> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
> st silas,,,0/security
> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
> Command:
>
> Microsoft Telnet> o
> ( to ) 127.0.0.3
> Connecting To 127.0.0.3...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
> Microsoft Telnet>

Are you answering the outstanding messages asking for the CLs?

--
- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

On Sunday, 30 April 2023 at 04:20:00 UTC+2, Stephen Fuld wrote:
> On 4/29/2023 2:53 PM, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> > On Saturday, 29 April 2023 at 17:34:35 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> >> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
> >>> Thanks Steve, I got it working!
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> --Saku OH6PU
> >> I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
> >> "Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
> >> I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:
> >>
> >> cs a
> >> st cpcomm,,,0/security
> >> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
> >> st silas,,,0/security
> >> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
> >> putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
> >> KEY ERROR
> >> Command:
> >>
> >> I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.
> >>
> >> WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
> >> it has setting for host type OS2200.
> >>
> >> Any help would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Einar Flaathe
> >
> > I had another go - but it's still not working, viz:
> > ROS consol
> > cs a
> > st cpcomm,,,0/security
> > 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
> > st silas,,,0/security
> > 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
> > Command:
> >
> > Microsoft Telnet> o
> > ( to ) 127.0.0.3
> > Connecting To 127.0.0.3...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
> > Microsoft Telnet>
> Are you answering the outstanding messages asking for the CLs?
>
>
>
> --
> - Stephen Fuld
> (e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

Thank you for your reply!

I am new to ClearPath OS 2200 and - No I did not answer the outstanding messages.

I searched ClearPath OS 2200 Release 18.0 Product Documentation Library
for ‘ENTER C.L. FOR :’ and found it in three places.
I learned that it was a ‘read-and-reply message’

The System Console Message reference Manual had:
The responses to this solicitation are the clearance level, blanks, or a null. A null
response or blanks receives the minimum clearance level for the user-id.

And FLIT Programming Reference Manual, Volume 2: System Mode had an example:
ST SYS$*RUN$.CONSOL,,,0/SECURITY
0-ENTER C.L. FOR : SYS$*RUN$.CONSOL
0 0

So I copied the answer and now the telnet session is established, but
I cannot see what I am typing… and I do not know the PS2200
command to exit Telnet.

But why reply with two zeros not just one?
(Clearance levels can range from 0 to 63, with 63 being the most restrictive.)

Here all the events:

ROS CONSOLE
cs a
st cpcomm,,,0/security
ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
0 0
CPCOMM START
CPCOMM*CCB105500: Configuration processing is complete.
CPCOMM* Number of errors: 0
CPCOMM*CCB109001: CPCommOS is ready.
CPCOMM*CCB109005: CPCommOS to XNIOP interface initialization complete.
CPCOMM* XNIOP level: 5.24.1
st silas,,,0/security
ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
0 0
SILAS START
SILAS *System Interface for Legacy Application Systems
SILAS * 3R5 3-50-5 30 APR 23 13:01:40 MODE A SITE PART-1
SILAS *Config version: WRC002
SILAS *Trace file opened : SILAS$A*TRACE(1)
SILAS *Log file opened : SILAS$A*LOG(1)
SILAS *PROCESS CSACSU is up.
SILAS *PROCESS RSDCSU is up.
CPCOMM*CCB121000: Process CSACSU has attached.
SILAS *CSACSU is attached to the TP0 interface.
CPCOMM*CCB121000: Process TELRSI has attached.
SILAS *RSDCSU is attached to the TELNET interface.
CPCOMM*CCB121000: Process RSDCSU has attached.
SILAS *RSDCSU is attached to the TP0 interface.
SILAS *Failed to connect with MCB # 01.
SILAS *Failed to connect with MCB # 03.
SILAS *PROCESS TIPCSU is up.
CPCOMM*CCB121000: Process TIPCSU has attached.
SILAS *TIPCSU is attached to the TP0 interface.
Command:

WINDOWS
Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Client

Escape Character is 'CTRL+¨'

Microsoft Telnet> o
( to ) 127.0.0.3

Enter your user-id/password and clearance level:
>
*UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 49R4.30PSE (RSI)*
Current session number: 194
Previous session was: SUN 30 APR 2023 13:02:48 CEST
>

Thanks once again!

On 4/30/2023 4:50 AM, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> On Sunday, 30 April 2023 at 04:20:00 UTC+2, Stephen Fuld wrote:
>> On 4/29/2023 2:53 PM, Einar Flaathe wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 29 April 2023 at 17:34:35 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Steve, I got it working!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> --Saku OH6PU
>>>> I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
>>>> "Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
>>>> I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:
>>>>
>>>> cs a
>>>> st cpcomm,,,0/security
>>>> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
>>>> st silas,,,0/security
>>>> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
>>>> putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
>>>> KEY ERROR
>>>> Command:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.
>>>>
>>>> WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
>>>> it has setting for host type OS2200.
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Einar Flaathe
>>>
>>> I had another go - but it's still not working, viz:
>>> ROS consol
>>> cs a
>>> st cpcomm,,,0/security
>>> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
>>> st silas,,,0/security
>>> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
>>> Command:
>>>
>>> Microsoft Telnet> o
>>> ( to ) 127.0.0.3
>>> Connecting To 127.0.0.3...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
>>> Microsoft Telnet>
>> Are you answering the outstanding messages asking for the CLs?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> - Stephen Fuld
>> (e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)
>
> Thank you for your reply!
>
> I am new to ClearPath OS 2200 and - No I did not answer the outstanding messages.
>
> I searched ClearPath OS 2200 Release 18.0 Product Documentation Library
> for ‘ENTER C.L. FOR :’ and found it in three places.
> I learned that it was a ‘read-and-reply message’
>
> The System Console Message reference Manual had:
> The responses to this solicitation are the clearance level, blanks, or a null. A null
> response or blanks receives the minimum clearance level for the user-id.
>
> And FLIT Programming Reference Manual, Volume 2: System Mode had an example:
> ST SYS$*RUN$.CONSOL,,,0/SECURITY
> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : SYS$*RUN$.CONSOL
> 0 0
>
> So I copied the answer and now the telnet session is established, but
> I cannot see what I am typing… and I do not know the PS2200
> command to exit Telnet.
>
> But why reply with two zeros not just one?

The first zero indicates to which read and reply message you are
responding. If you go back to your first example, the read and reply
message for Silas started with "1". Since you didn't reply to the first
one (from CONSOL), the second one incremented the reply number. This
allows you to have multiple messages outstanding, either from the same
or different applications, and for the OS to know to which message your
reply is intended. That is, you could have replied to the message about
Silas by starting your reply with a 1 instead of 0. In the second
example, since you replied to the message from CONSOL, before you
started Silas, the message from SILAS could start at zero again. The
second zero is the actual reply, in this case the clearance level of 0.

snip

> Thanks once again!

You're welcome. And Welcome to the 2200 community!

--
- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

On Saturday, 29 April 2023 at 17:34:35 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
> > Thanks Steve, I got it working!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --Saku OH6PU
> I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
> "Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
> I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:
>
> cs a
> st cpcomm,,,0/security
> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
> st silas,,,0/security
> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
> putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
> KEY ERROR
> Command:
>
> I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.
>
> WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
> it has setting for host type OS2200.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> Einar Flaathe

I had another go - but it's still not working, viz:
ROS consol
cs a
st cpcomm,,,0/security
0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
st silas,,,0/security
1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
Command:

Microsoft Telnet> o
( to ) 127.0.0.3
Connecting To 127.0.0.3...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
Microsoft Telnet>

Einar
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On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 4:25:06=E2=80=AFPM UTC-7, Al Kossow wrote:
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> I'm becoming concerned that what may have been produced about these syste=
ms has been lost.

I went back and looked at the implementations information I have for the 70=
0/800/80/90 systems last night and
they do run an interpreted system language on top of a microcoded 16 bit pr=
ocessor. Even on the B1000 side with
the internal memos that I have there was apparently no detailed documents o=
n how the systems actually worked
beyond the communicates and data structures which changed with each release=
..
I'm assuming if you had the need to know, you would just look at the source=
code and none of this information was
really ever released to customers.

The situation is much worse for the non-B1000 small systems. I've not even =
been able to find field service documentation
beyond some schematic sets for those systems.

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On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:30:21 -0700, Stephen Fuld
<sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> wrote:

>On 6/29/2023 6:33 PM, Kurt Duncan wrote:
>> So, just spit-balling ideas here.
>> Suppose one could break out the OS into modules, then set up multiple instances of the various modules a la micro-services.
>
>I am not sure exactly what you are proposing here, nor what the
>advantages of it are. See below for specifics.
>
My take is someone has a shaky grasp of how Operting Systems
(including OS2200) are structured.
>
>
>> One could re-imagine the idea of shared directories... each major MFD instance is a separately managed directory, as a service.
>
>Does this mean that a file name has to specify somehow which MFD
>instance it is in, or does a run specify which instance all files that
>run references belong to? What if a run wants to access a file in a
>different instance? Or do you mean multiple copies of the same
>information? In that case, updates have to be propagated to multiple
>instances. Both are messy, and what do you gain?
>
>
>
>> TIP is a service, and you could scale out as many instances of that as you need, with all the IO on the back end being handled by one or more of the MFD services.
>
>
>Sounds like early CICS on IBM S/360. Multiple "instances" of CICS, each
>managing its own set of transactions. It is costly performance wise as
>you are doing CPU dispatching twice, once in the OS and once in the CICS
>instance. There is a reason why TIP tended to out perform CICS.

I tend to believe the per-Application Group does a better job of
partitioning transactions.
>
>
>> Spin up one or more database instances as needed.
>
>What is an instance here? The common code to handle the database? Why
>waste the space? The user code? Already done. Again, I am not sure
>what you mean here.

Each Application Grop is a different DMS instance. I forget just hom
many Application Groups are currently supporte, I'm pretty sure it is
more than 10.
>
>
>
>> Spin up two or three batch services for nightly processing.
>>
>> Spin up a DEMAND service, and if you get more than say, 100 users on that one service, spin up another one.
>
>One of the really nice things about OS/2200 is that batch and demand
>share so much of the same facilities, both within the OS, and things
>like ECL? What is the advantage of separating and duplicating them?
>And what does adding another instance of a demand service if one get
>over 100 users buy you?
>
>
>> Same thing with BIS.
>
>IIRC BIS is what used to be called MAPPER. If so, I think you can have
>multiple Mapper runs open simultaneously. I don't know if anyone does
>this, and why?
>
>
>> Then you would truly have cloud-native...ish OS2200. Thoughts?
>
>My initial thoughts are that it seems like a lot of work for minimal
>benefit. But I freely admit, I don't fully understand your proposal. :-(
>
>One further note. Your talk of "cloudish" could be sort of like
>multiple 2200s in a shared disk environment. I don't know if such
>configurations are still supported.

On 4/29/2023 2:53 PM, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> On Saturday, 29 April 2023 at 17:34:35 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
>> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
>>> Thanks Steve, I got it working!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --Saku OH6PU
>> I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
>> "Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
>> I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:
>>
>> cs a
>> st cpcomm,,,0/security
>> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
>> st silas,,,0/security
>> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
>> putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
>> KEY ERROR
>> Command:
>>
>> I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.
>>
>> WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
>> it has setting for host type OS2200.
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Einar Flaathe
>
> I had another go - but it's still not working, viz:
> ROS consol
> cs a
> st cpcomm,,,0/security
> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
> st silas,,,0/security
> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
> Command:
>
> Microsoft Telnet> o
> ( to ) 127.0.0.3
> Connecting To 127.0.0.3...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
> Microsoft Telnet>

Are you answering the outstanding messages asking for the CLs?

--
- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

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Is there a native full-screen editor for OS2200 other than EDIT 1100
which is part of IPF? By native I mean not running fully or partly on
the host machine, such as @XEDIT or @PCE.
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Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> writes:
>On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 4:25:06=E2=80=AFPM UTC-7, Al Kossow wrote:
>=20
>> I'm becoming concerned that what may have been produced about these syste=
>ms has been lost.
>
>I went back and looked at the implementations information I have for the 70=
>0/800/80/90 systems last night and
>they do run an interpreted system language on top of a microcoded 16 bit pr=
>ocessor. Even on the B1000 side with
>the internal memos that I have there was apparently no detailed documents o=
>n how the systems actually worked
>beyond the communicates and data structures which changed with each release=
>.
>I'm assuming if you had the need to know, you would just look at the source=
> code and none of this information was
>really ever released to customers.
>
>The situation is much worse for the non-B1000 small systems. I've not even =
>been able to find field service documentation
>beyond some schematic sets for those systems.

On the DCOM tape (http://bitsavers.org/bits/Burroughs/Vseries/Vseries_Tape_Collection.tar.gz)
there should be an NDL compiler that targets the B874 - takes a network topology
and station description and compiles it into the 'firmware' for the b874 (b800)
data communications processor which polls and selects stations and constructs
packets to send to the host (input from station) and packets sent from the host (station output).

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On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 9:10:45=E2=80=AFPM UTC-6, David W Schroth wrote=
: > On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:30:21 -0700, Stephen Fuld=20
> <sf...@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> wrote:=20
>=20
> >On 6/29/2023 6:33 PM, Kurt Duncan wrote:=20
> >> So, just spit-balling ideas here.=20
> >> Suppose one could break out the OS into modules, then set up multiple =
instances of the various modules a la micro-services.=20
> >=20
> >I am not sure exactly what you are proposing here, nor what the=20
> >advantages of it are. See below for specifics.=20
> >
> My take is someone has a shaky grasp of how Operting Systems=20
> (including OS2200) are structured.

I do have *some* small insight into OS2200 - not great, but some.
Let me clarify: I am not suggesting breaking up OS2200 into pieces, nor dep=
loying lots of copies of it.
I'm suggesting completely rewriting enough of the various parts of OS2200 t=
o allow what had been OS2200 applications to begin looking more like cloud-=
native solutions... containers, all that fun stuff; and doing it in such a =
way as to require a minimum amount of re-coding and/or re-architecting.

It is certainly a mind-bender for a person steeped in monolithic OS's and h=
ardware (such as I am), to understand and adapt to the cloud/container worl=
d.
But in doing so - as almost the entire rest of the non-mainframe world is d=
oing - I'd hate to see the OS2200 architecture lose even more ground.
I'm trying to think of unique ways in which the 2200 eco-sphere -- from a c=
ustomer point of view -- might be altered such that it can compete in this =
new goofy frustrating world.

> >=20
> >=20
> >> One could re-imagine the idea of shared directories... each major MFD =
instance is a separately managed directory, as a service.=20
> >=20
> >Does this mean that a file name has to specify somehow which MFD=20
> >instance it is in, or does a run specify which instance all files that=
=20
> >run references belong to? What if a run wants to access a file in a=20
> >different instance? Or do you mean multiple copies of the same=20
> >information? In that case, updates have to be propagated to multiple=20
> >instances. Both are messy, and what do you gain?=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >> TIP is a service, and you could scale out as many instances of that as=
you need, with all the IO on the back end being handled by one or more of =
the MFD services.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >Sounds like early CICS on IBM S/360. Multiple "instances" of CICS, each=
=20
> >managing its own set of transactions. It is costly performance wise as=
=20
> >you are doing CPU dispatching twice, once in the OS and once in the CICS=
=20
> >instance. There is a reason why TIP tended to out perform CICS.
> I tend to believe the per-Application Group does a better job of=20
> partitioning transactions.
> >=20
> >=20
> >> Spin up one or more database instances as needed.=20
> >=20
> >What is an instance here? The common code to handle the database? Why=20
> >waste the space? The user code? Already done. Again, I am not sure=20
> >what you mean here.
> Each Application Grop is a different DMS instance. I forget just hom=20
> many Application Groups are currently supporte, I'm pretty sure it is=20
> more than 10.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >> Spin up two or three batch services for nightly processing.=20
> >>=20
> >> Spin up a DEMAND service, and if you get more than say, 100 users on t=
hat one service, spin up another one.=20
> >=20
> >One of the really nice things about OS/2200 is that batch and demand=20
> >share so much of the same facilities, both within the OS, and things=20
> >like ECL? What is the advantage of separating and duplicating them?=20
> >And what does adding another instance of a demand service if one get=20
> >over 100 users buy you?=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >> Same thing with BIS.=20
> >=20
> >IIRC BIS is what used to be called MAPPER. If so, I think you can have=
=20
> >multiple Mapper runs open simultaneously. I don't know if anyone does=20
> >this, and why?=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >> Then you would truly have cloud-native...ish OS2200. Thoughts?=20
> >=20
> >My initial thoughts are that it seems like a lot of work for minimal=20
> >benefit. But I freely admit, I don't fully understand your proposal. :-(=
=20
> >=20
> >One further note. Your talk of "cloudish" could be sort of like=20
> >multiple 2200s in a shared disk environment. I don't know if such=20
> >configurations are still supported.
> As far as I know, we still support multiple 2200s in a shared disk=20
> environment. I typically have demand sessions open on RS06, RS08,=20
> RS15, and RS36 when I'm working. My Exec builds run from shared file=20
> sets, RS06 PRIMUS (a DMS application) runs on all systems in the RS06=20
> omplex. And I know there are other 2200 systems in the RS06 complex.=20
>=20
> Regards,=20
>=20
> David W. Schroth
.
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On Sunday, 30 April 2023 at 04:20:00 UTC+2, Stephen Fuld wrote:
> On 4/29/2023 2:53 PM, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> > On Saturday, 29 April 2023 at 17:34:35 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> >> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
> >>> Thanks Steve, I got it working!
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> --Saku OH6PU
> >> I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
> >> "Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
> >> I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:
> >>
> >> cs a
> >> st cpcomm,,,0/security
> >> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
> >> st silas,,,0/security
> >> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
> >> putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
> >> KEY ERROR
> >> Command:
> >>
> >> I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.
> >>
> >> WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
> >> it has setting for host type OS2200.
> >>
> >> Any help would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Einar Flaathe
> >
> > I had another go - but it's still not working, viz:
> > ROS consol
> > cs a
> > st cpcomm,,,0/security
> > 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
> > st silas,,,0/security
> > 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
> > Command:
> >
> > Microsoft Telnet> o
> > ( to ) 127.0.0.3
> > Connecting To 127.0.0.3...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
> > Microsoft Telnet>
> Are you answering the outstanding messages asking for the CLs?
>
>
>
> --
> - Stephen Fuld
> (e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

Thank you for your reply!

I am new to ClearPath OS 2200 and - No I did not answer the outstanding messages.

I searched ClearPath OS 2200 Release 18.0 Product Documentation Library
for ‘ENTER C.L. FOR :’ and found it in three places.
I learned that it was a ‘read-and-reply message’

The System Console Message reference Manual had:
The responses to this solicitation are the clearance level, blanks, or a null. A null
response or blanks receives the minimum clearance level for the user-id.

And FLIT Programming Reference Manual, Volume 2: System Mode had an example:
ST SYS$*RUN$.CONSOL,,,0/SECURITY
0-ENTER C.L. FOR : SYS$*RUN$.CONSOL
0 0

So I copied the answer and now the telnet session is established, but
I cannot see what I am typing… and I do not know the PS2200
command to exit Telnet.

But why reply with two zeros not just one?
(Clearance levels can range from 0 to 63, with 63 being the most restrictive.)

Here all the events:

ROS CONSOLE
cs a
st cpcomm,,,0/security
ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
0 0
CPCOMM START
CPCOMM*CCB105500: Configuration processing is complete.
CPCOMM* Number of errors: 0
CPCOMM*CCB109001: CPCommOS is ready.
CPCOMM*CCB109005: CPCommOS to XNIOP interface initialization complete.
CPCOMM* XNIOP level: 5.24.1
st silas,,,0/security
ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
0 0
SILAS START
SILAS *System Interface for Legacy Application Systems
SILAS * 3R5 3-50-5 30 APR 23 13:01:40 MODE A SITE PART-1
SILAS *Config version: WRC002
SILAS *Trace file opened : SILAS$A*TRACE(1)
SILAS *Log file opened : SILAS$A*LOG(1)
SILAS *PROCESS CSACSU is up.
SILAS *PROCESS RSDCSU is up.
CPCOMM*CCB121000: Process CSACSU has attached.
SILAS *CSACSU is attached to the TP0 interface.
CPCOMM*CCB121000: Process TELRSI has attached.
SILAS *RSDCSU is attached to the TELNET interface.
CPCOMM*CCB121000: Process RSDCSU has attached.
SILAS *RSDCSU is attached to the TP0 interface.
SILAS *Failed to connect with MCB # 01.
SILAS *Failed to connect with MCB # 03.
SILAS *PROCESS TIPCSU is up.
CPCOMM*CCB121000: Process TIPCSU has attached.
SILAS *TIPCSU is attached to the TP0 interface.
Command:

WINDOWS
Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Client

Escape Character is 'CTRL+¨'

Microsoft Telnet> o
( to ) 127.0.0.3

Enter your user-id/password and clearance level:
>
*UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 49R4.30PSE (RSI)*
Current session number: 194
Previous session was: SUN 30 APR 2023 13:02:48 CEST
>

Thanks once again!
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On Thursday, 11 May 2023 at 12:22:18 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 May 2023 at 22:46:05 UTC+2, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > Einar Flaathe <einar.a...@gmail.com> writes:
> > >On Monday, 8 May 2023 at 22:56:47 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> >
> > >How do I add attachments to my post???
> > You generally cannot. Note that google groups is acting
> > as a Usenet client in this case.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
> >
> > If you were using a real Usenet client (e.g. pan or thunderbird),
> > you'd have the ability to post attachments, but many Usenet servers
> > won't accept attachments outside of the alt. hierarchy.
> Thank you Scott for your reply!
>
> I thought it was possible to submit attachments because:
> "Search conversations within comp.sys.unisys..."
> has tick box: "Has an attachment".
>
> Einar

I have now been able to get INFOConnect configured!
I can now run an UTS session in DEMAND mode to PS2200 - through SILAS and CPComm

Attachmate Accessory Manager:

Enter your user-id/password and clearance level:

*UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 49R4.30PSE (RSI)*
Current session number: 223
Previous session was: SAT 13 MAY 2023 17:55:56 CEST
@run ps2200,0,ps2200
DATE: 2023-05-13 TIME: 18:01:19 CEST
@fin
RUNID: PS2200 ACCT: 0 PROJECT: PS2200
SITE: T456 USERID: SECURITY SYSTEM: 49R4.30PSE
PS2200 FIN
DEVICE USAGE: REQUESTS TRANSFERRED
DISK: 3 3584 WORDS
TAPE: 0 0 WORDS
MAX TAPES ASG: 0
RESOURCE WAIT: 00:00:00
MEMORY USAGE: 0 PAGE-SECONDS
MAX MEMORY: 0 PAGES
TIME: TOTAL: 00:00:00.320 ELAPSED: 00:02:11
CPU: 00:00:00.000 I/O: 00:00:00.000
CC/ER: 00:00:00.320 WAIT: 00:02:11.802
SUAS USED: 0.00 SUAS REMAINING: 10000.00
IMAGES READ: 3 PAGES: 1
START: 2023-05-13 18:01:19 CEST FIN: 2023-05-13 18:03:31 CEST
*TERMINAL INACTIVE*

On 4/30/2023 4:50 AM, Einar Flaathe wrote:
> On Sunday, 30 April 2023 at 04:20:00 UTC+2, Stephen Fuld wrote:
>> On 4/29/2023 2:53 PM, Einar Flaathe wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 29 April 2023 at 17:34:35 UTC+2, Einar Flaathe wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 15:36:12 UTC+2, setala wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Steve, I got it working!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> --Saku OH6PU
>>>> I am new to PS2200, and I have tried Steve Rikards instruction:
>>>> "Here are the steps to allow telnet access to ps2200 in ROS."
>>>> I started telnet on Windows 10, and from on the ROS consol I entered:
>>>>
>>>> cs a
>>>> st cpcomm,,,0/security
>>>> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
>>>> st silas,,,0/security
>>>> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
>>>> putty;host 127.0.0.3;select telcon (port 23)
>>>> KEY ERROR
>>>> Command:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to be able to have FTP access to ps2200 on port 21 as well.
>>>>
>>>> WS_FTP Professional worked well with ClearPath MCP Express (host type Unisys A-series) and
>>>> it has setting for host type OS2200.
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Einar Flaathe
>>>
>>> I had another go - but it's still not working, viz:
>>> ROS consol
>>> cs a
>>> st cpcomm,,,0/security
>>> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : .CPCOMM
>>> st silas,,,0/security
>>> 1-ENTER C.L. FOR : .SILAS
>>> Command:
>>>
>>> Microsoft Telnet> o
>>> ( to ) 127.0.0.3
>>> Connecting To 127.0.0.3...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
>>> Microsoft Telnet>
>> Are you answering the outstanding messages asking for the CLs?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> - Stephen Fuld
>> (e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)
>
> Thank you for your reply!
>
> I am new to ClearPath OS 2200 and - No I did not answer the outstanding messages.
>
> I searched ClearPath OS 2200 Release 18.0 Product Documentation Library
> for ‘ENTER C.L. FOR :’ and found it in three places.
> I learned that it was a ‘read-and-reply message’
>
> The System Console Message reference Manual had:
> The responses to this solicitation are the clearance level, blanks, or a null. A null
> response or blanks receives the minimum clearance level for the user-id.
>
> And FLIT Programming Reference Manual, Volume 2: System Mode had an example:
> ST SYS$*RUN$.CONSOL,,,0/SECURITY
> 0-ENTER C.L. FOR : SYS$*RUN$.CONSOL
> 0 0
>
> So I copied the answer and now the telnet session is established, but
> I cannot see what I am typing… and I do not know the PS2200
> command to exit Telnet.
>
> But why reply with two zeros not just one?

The first zero indicates to which read and reply message you are
responding. If you go back to your first example, the read and reply
message for Silas started with "1". Since you didn't reply to the first
one (from CONSOL), the second one incremented the reply number. This
allows you to have multiple messages outstanding, either from the same
or different applications, and for the OS to know to which message your
reply is intended. That is, you could have replied to the message about
Silas by starting your reply with a 1 instead of 0. In the second
example, since you replied to the message from CONSOL, before you
started Silas, the message from SILAS could start at zero again. The
second zero is the actual reply, in this case the clearance level of 0.

snip

> Thanks once again!

You're welcome. And Welcome to the 2200 community!

--
- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

.
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From: Einar Flaathe <einar.a.flaathe@gmail.com>
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On Monday, 16 April 2018 at 22:46:56 UTC+2, Louis Krupp wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:54:40 -0700, Paul Kimpel <paul....@digm.com>=20
> wrote:
> >On 4/15/2018 8:45 AM, rodger wrote:=20
> >> the last price I saw on a Gregory algol 1 was $40 and listed as no lon=
ger available (Amazon). I'm sorry I threw way all my manuals?? Luckily Unis=
ys has manuals available for free. but Not aftermarket manuals. I have the =
DVD from Unisys with every manual they have. I kept that. There is nothing =
like hard copy. I can't stand paging through a PDF.=20
> >=20
> >Sorry, there are no more paper manuals, and haven't been for the better=
=20
> >part of 20 years. If you want hard copy, you'll have to print it from=20
> >the PDF yourself.=20
> >=20
> >The UNITE user association (www.unite.org) acquired rights to all of the=
=20
> >Gregory Publishing materials from Don's widow a couple of years ago. I=
=20
> >believe they have copies of all the Gregory manuals, and I know they=20
> >have all of the source code. They are trying to decide how to make this=
=20
> >available to their membership. Alas, the manuals are in paper form only=
=20
> >-- the electronic files (if they even still exist) are for publishing=20
> >software that definitely no longer exists.
> <snip>=20
>=20
> If the files exist -- and that's a big if -- then decoding them should=20
> be possible given sufficient time and motivation.=20
>=20
> Louis

Gregory Publishing Company Burroughs manuals.

Hi,
Are the Burroughs Corporation records and Gregory Publishing Company Burrou=
ghs manuals available for download in PDF format?
Best regards,
Einar

Hi Einar,

Here is a link to the PDF files: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1e=
cIdSnOmlbFM76wcCtSzELzpYBWTycZo?usp=3Dsharing

Best,
Amanda

--=20

Amanda Wick
Archivist, Charles Babbage Institute Archives=20

Elmer L. Andersen Library, Suite 211
University of Minnesota Libraries
222 - 21st Avenue South

Minneapolis, MN 55455

612-625-4867
abwick@umn.edu

.
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