In article <5958cf36e5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <10124b5859.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> > How are you comparing prices? They all have different specs.

> Against my needs.

> "I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing."

> The FOURTress is looking good especially as Andy still has some WROCC
> "Specials" without the hard drive. I'm now considering whether I need the
> hard drive for my intended use.

Having just come back off holiday and with some, likely, expensive repairs
on the car required, I went for the FOURTress lite. This allowed the
replacement of my rather ancient 17" monitor (No HDMI input) with a nice
new 22" Samsung.

I will upgrade when more funds are available but at the moment I have
connected up the 120G SSD I have extracted from my Iyonix. At least that
has saved the copying of large numbers of files around!

At the moment the USB-SATA converter is only USB2 but I have a USB3
version on its' way from Fleabay

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

In article <5958cf36e5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <10124b5859.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> > How are you comparing prices? They all have different specs.

> Against my needs.

> "I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing."

> The FOURTress is looking good especially as Andy still has some WROCC
> "Specials" without the hard drive. I'm now considering whether I need the
> hard drive for my intended use.

Having just come back off holiday and with some, likely, expensive repairs
on the car required, I went for the FOURTress lite. This allowed the
replacement of my rather ancient 17" monitor (No HDMI input) with a nice
new 22" Samsung.

I will upgrade when more funds are available but at the moment I have
connected up the 120G SSD I have extracted from my Iyonix. At least that
has saved the copying of large numbers of files around!

At the moment the USB-SATA converter is only USB2 but I have a USB3
version on its' way from Fleabay

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

In message <595d0d7f2fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <ce6e355959.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <sepomk$vib$1@dont-email.me>
>> druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

>>> On 08/08/2021 16:22, Stuart wrote:
>>>> In article <5958d356b8brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
>>>> Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally good
>>>> Hence my request but a Pi4 running at 2.1G should help.
>>>>
>>>> I just wish I could find that post which mentioned speeds, which I
>>>> thought was by Druck, but I can't.

>>> The Pi 4 is pretty much the all round fastest machine, and great for
>>> RISC OS applications. But I would not recommend it for web browsing
>>> from RISC OS, we just don't have a good enough browsers, or crucially,
>>> a good enough OS to make full use the hardware. If you want to web
>>> browse, put Linux or Android on it.

>> Sorry Druck, but I would have to disagree with you, have you used !Iris ?

>> !Iris is pretty up to date and can access majority of sites. (its can't
>> do videos), but has Javascript, CSS, HTML5 etc..

> I now have my RaPi4B and it seems to work well.

> I've been looking at the BBC website and, although perhaps slower to load
> than Firefox on a Windows machine it displays very well. Once loaded
> scrolling is as fast as on the said PC.

Good to hear.

> I have had an issue trying to access Farnell or CPC's website in that
> typing in the respective URLs and hitting return seems to do precisely
> nothing but Ebay works, though I haven't yet tried to buy anything (no
> need)

I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within !Iris to
access these two websites (I had the same issue with the Argos webiste)

I changed the agent to:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)
Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!

Remember when selecting the new User agent double click on the line to
make it the actual user agent in use. Then you MUSt open a new window to
access the website you want i.e. CPC or Farnell in your case.

You can obviously try some of the other user agents available if you want.

--
Chris Hughes

In article <c865725d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within !Iris
> to access these two websites (I had the same issue with the Argos
> webiste)

> I changed the agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
> 5.1; SV1) Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!

Interesting. I know nothing about user agents. Where is there an idiots
guide?

--
Chris Newman

On 18 Aug 2021 as I do recall,
Chris Newman wrote:

> In article <c865725d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
> <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within !Iris
> > to access these two websites (I had the same issue with the Argos
> > webiste)
>
> > I changed the agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
> > 5.1; SV1) Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!
>
> Interesting. I know nothing about user agents. Where is there an idiots
> guide?
>
I think the 'user agent' is just the browser's self-identification
string, like the task name which an application supplies to the Task
Manager - or the arbitrary From line specified in an outgoing e-mail.
And since it's just a piece of text, a browser can claim falsely to be
anything it likes, which may gain you access to sites which attempt to
use the user agent as a means of filtering (e.g. on the grounds that if
they've never heard of your browser they can't guarantee to be able to
support it, and would thus rather not let you render their HTML in case
you might complain that it's not working on your system....)

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

I'm all for computer dating.... But I wouldn't want one to marry my sister.

In message <afece45d59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> On 18 Aug 2021 as I do recall,
> Chris Newman wrote:

>> In article <c865725d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
>> <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within !Iris
>>> to access these two websites (I had the same issue with the Argos
>>> webiste)
>>
>>> I changed the agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
>>> 5.1; SV1) Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!
>>
>> Interesting. I know nothing about user agents. Where is there an idiots
>> guide?
>>
> I think the 'user agent' is just the browser's self-identification
> string, like the task name which an application supplies to the Task
> Manager - or the arbitrary From line specified in an outgoing e-mail.
> And since it's just a piece of text, a browser can claim falsely to be
> anything it likes, which may gain you access to sites which attempt to
> use the user agent as a means of filtering (e.g. on the grounds that if
> they've never heard of your browser they can't guarantee to be able to
> support it, and would thus rather not let you render their HTML in case
> you might complain that it's not working on your system....)

At the moment there is very little information/guides available for !Iris,
but the six User Agents that are available in 'Iris - Choices User agent'
give a clue to how they work. You could obviously add your own such as
'Edge' if you really must.

Adrian

--

acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk

In article <afece45d59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley
<harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Aug 2021 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote:

> > In article <c865725d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
> > <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within
> > > !Iris to access these two websites (I had the same issue with the
> > > Argos webiste)
> >
> > > I changed the agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
> > > NT 5.1; SV1) Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!
> >
> > Interesting. I know nothing about user agents. Where is there an
> > idiots guide?
> >
> I think the 'user agent' is just the browser's self-identification
> string, like the task name which an application supplies to the Task
> Manager - or the arbitrary From line specified in an outgoing e-mail.
> And since it's just a piece of text, a browser can claim falsely to be
> anythzing it likes, which may gain you access to sites which attempt to
> use the user agent as a means of filtering (e.g. on the grounds that
> if they've never heard of your browser they can't guarantee to be able
> to support it, and would thus rather not let you render their HTML in
> case you might complain that it's not working on your system....)

Thaanks to you & Adrian for the help.

--
Chris Newman