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* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
+- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSAlan
`* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSAndy Burns
 +* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSsms
 |`* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
 | `- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSPeter
 `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
  `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSAndy Burns
   +* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSsms
   |+- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSAndy Burns
   |+* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSQuellen
   ||+- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSJolly Roger
   ||+* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSAlan Browne
   |||`- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWolf Greenblatt
   ||`- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSRabidPedagog
   |`* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSFrank Slootweg
   | +- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
   | `- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSsms
   `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
    +* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSPeter
    |`* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSsms
    | +- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSOscar Mayer
    | `- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWolf Greenblatt
    `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
     +* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSFrank Slootweg
     |+* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
     ||+* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSsms
     |||`- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
     ||`* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSFrank Slootweg
     || +* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
     || |`* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
     || | +- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSArlen
     || | `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
     || |  `- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
     || +* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSsms
     || |`- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
     || `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSThe Real Bev
     ||  +- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
     ||  `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSFrank Slootweg
     ||   +- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
     ||   `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
     ||    `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSFrank Slootweg
     ||     +- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
     ||     `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSThe Real Bev
     ||      `- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
     |`* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSsms
     | `- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
     `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSWally J
      `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
       `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSAlan
        `* Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOScandycanearter07
         `- Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOSAlan

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From: wolf@greenblatt.net (Wolf Greenblatt)
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Subject: Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOS
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 by: Wolf Greenblatt - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 01:07 UTC

On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 20:58:57 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> A company incorporated in the United States of America that is
> beholden to the laws of the same nation will, upon presentation of a
> duly executed warrant from the judicial branch, furnish that information
> in accordance with the court order executed per the laws of said nation?

Think China. Or Russia. Or North Korea. Cuba. Venezuela. Iran. And so on.
If you put it on the iCloud - then you gave it to anyone who asks for it.

Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOS

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 by: Wolf Greenblatt - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 01:09 UTC

On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 15:02:29 -0500, sms wrote:

> If you use the non-free web interface for Pulse SMS then your carrier
> could not charge you. Not sure what phone number shows up as the SMS/MMS
> originating from when you use the web app. With Google Voice it's your
> Google Voice number.

Seems to me this means that, save for the subscription cost, it's free MMS.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 01:33 UTC

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote

> LOL, he has so many aliases, to bypass people's filters, that you'd be
> hard-pressed to keep track!

Jesus Christ - Steve - you are a fucking idiot. Seriously. You're a moron.

First off, Steve is an idiot because the purpose of changing headers is
privacy. If Steve doesn't know I care greatly about privacy - he's a moron.

The wrapping paper is meaningless in a Usenet post. The value is not in
the headers. The value is in the body of the message - and I add value.

I add TONS and TONS and TONS and TONs and TONs of value.
Just search for "Tutorial" for scores of very detailed value, you morons.

Not one of these utter morons have _ever_ written and posted a tutorial.
People as clearly stupid as Frank Slootweg and Steve Sharf make me sick.

They're both imbeciles.

Second, anyone who takes more than five seconds to figure out my posts, and
then claims they're a genius for figuring them out - is a DK imbecile.

Seriously.

I post the URLs to my tutorials on XDA Developers' web sites, for God's
sake with screenshots that can't be anyone else's but mine for God's sake.
<https://forum.xda-developers.com/m/galaxya325g.11604613/recent-content>

I state I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
I state my phone. How I got it. My T-Mobile bill.
And so on.

And then these utter morons claim they're geniuses for figuring me out.
WTF?

Who, on earth, is _that_ stupid?
Seriously.

Hell, I post the screenshots to my phone setup which is unique to me!
<https://i.postimg.cc/yx1yKMTJ/roaming-shortcut.jpg>

And then you have these uneducated morons like Frank Slootweg and Steve
jumping up with glee that they "figured out" what was never hidden.

Seriously - how fantastically stupid are these morons like Steve & Frank?
You tell me.

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 by: sms - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 02:42 UTC

On 9/24/2023 1:24 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

<snip>

> I don't what "the last known good version of PulseSMS" is (I don't
> think 'Wally J' (aka 'Arlen Holder') bothered to mention version
> numbers), but apkpure.com has PulseSMS versions as 'old' as 5.5.2.2849
> of (supposedly) Jul 16, 2021.

Maple Media purchased Pulse SMS back in 2020 so the version you mention
is too late.

See
<https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/10/29/it-looks-like-pulse-sms-has-been-bought-by-maple-media-get-ready-for-intrusive-ads/>.
It's best to just avoid Pulse SMS. Just too risky.

Cross-platform message integration and consolidation is appealing as
long as it supports all the popular messaging systems and works on all
popular platforms. Beeper is actually still free though they have said
that a paid version will be coming sometime in 2023.

Beeper (iOS, Android, Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS) (all free)
------
Whatsapp
Facebook Messenger
Twitter (X)
iMessage
SMS
MMS
Telegram
Signal
RCS

Pulse SMS (Android (free), Mac, Windows (paid))
---------
SMS
MMS

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 03:00 UTC

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote

> On 9/24/2023 1:24 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I don't what "the last known good version of PulseSMS" is (I don't
>> think 'Wally J' (aka 'Arlen Holder') bothered to mention version
>> numbers), but apkpure.com has PulseSMS versions as 'old' as 5.5.2.2849
>> of (supposedly) Jul 16, 2021.
>
> Maple Media purchased Pulse SMS back in 2020 so the version you mention
> is too late.
>
> See
> <https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/10/29/it-looks-like-pulse-sms-has-been-bought-by-maple-media-get-ready-for-intrusive-ads/>.
> It's best to just avoid Pulse SMS. Just too risky.
>
> Cross-platform message integration and consolidation is appealing as
> long as it supports all the popular messaging systems and works on all
> popular platforms. Beeper is actually still free though they have said
> that a paid version will be coming sometime in 2023.
>
> Beeper (iOS, Android, Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS) (all free)
> ------
> Whatsapp
> Facebook Messenger
> Twitter (X)
> iMessage
> SMS
> MMS
> Telegram
> Signal
> RCS
>
> Pulse SMS (Android (free), Mac, Windows (paid))
> ---------
> SMS
> MMS

Jesus Christ. After all these years, Steve is _still_ an utter moron.
So is Frank Slootweg. They are both idiot twins, based on their posts.

I already provided the link to the Usenet post that said what version was
the last known good version since we all talked about this in the past.

How stupid can they be that I have to spell everything out for them.

It's not so much they can't be troubled to click on the link provided.
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/OO-0G-_1qeU/m/Dt_cHlRuBAAJ>

It's that both Frank Slootweg and Steve Scharf _whine_ like little girls
that I only provided the link to the answer and not the exact answer.

WTF?
What grade are these little whiny babies in anyway?

Jesus Christ. After all these years, Steve is _still_ an utter moron.
So is Frank Slootweg. They are both idiot twins, based on their posts.

I already provided the link to the Usenet post that said what version was
the last known good version since we all talked about this in the past.

That Steve is completely ignorant of this information, even though it's not
only in this very thread - but - it's also easily found in a search, is
frustrating because Steve claims to be trying to help - but he's not.

Do a search for "last known good version pulse sms" in this newsgroup.
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=pulsesms%20last%20known%20good%20version>

This is verbatim - and I already gave this information - so it just proves
that both Frank Slootweg and Steve Scharf own the cognition of a child.

===< *cut below for the verbatim data from Dec 19, 2022* >===

"That last known good version of PulseSMS is (AFAIK) from October 27, 2020:
5.4.6.2816-2816_minAPI21 dated October 27, 2020 (no ads, klinker owned)

If you trust apkmirror, you can still get that last version here:
<https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/maple-media/pulse-smstablet-messenger/pulse-smstablet-messenger-5-4-6-2816-release/>

<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/OO-0G-_1qeU/m/Dt_cHlRuBAAJ>

===< *cut above for the verbatim data from Dec 19, 2022* >===

Since both Steve and Frank whine like little baby girls when they're
confronted with something as complicated as a link, let me test it.

APK certificate fingerprints
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sure looks good to me.
I'm sure in a future post, both Steve Scharf and Frank Slootweg will
complain that they can't find the last known good version of PulseSMS.

The proof is clear.
Neither Frank nor Steve is capable of leaning anything.

Both of them are stuck in the world of a five-year old who is incapable of
learning anything given what they proved to do in this very thread.

I'm sick of these utter morons - if they just shut the fuck up - instead of
complaining - they'd be fine as they'd just be stupid (like Carlos is).

But they whine like little girls that they can't figure out how to click on
a link that I already gave them - and which an _adult_ could figure out.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:13 UTC

candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
> On 9/24/23 13:24, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > think 'Wally J' (aka 'Arlen Holder')
> OH that's why they're calling you Arlen ok I was confused about that

As you use my name in your attribution line, you probably meant:

> OH that's why they're calling him Arlen ok I was confused about that
^^^

Upto now, he has used some 80 nyms. He used the 'Arlen Holder' one for
a relativily long time, so that's why we (YTIW) call him 'Arlen'.

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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:29 UTC

On 9/25/23 09:13, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
>> On 9/24/23 13:24, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> think 'Wally J' (aka 'Arlen Holder')
>> OH that's why they're calling you Arlen ok I was confused about that
>
> As you use my name in your attribution line, you probably meant:
>
>> OH that's why they're calling him Arlen ok I was confused about that
> ^^^
>
> Upto now, he has used some 80 nyms. He used the 'Arlen Holder' one for
> a relativily long time, so that's why we (YTIW) call him 'Arlen'.

Makes sense.
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user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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 by: sms - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:43 UTC

On 9/25/2023 9:13 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
>> On 9/24/23 13:24, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> think 'Wally J' (aka 'Arlen Holder')
>> OH that's why they're calling you Arlen ok I was confused about that
>
> As you use my name in your attribution line, you probably meant:
>
>> OH that's why they're calling him Arlen ok I was confused about that
> ^^^
>
> Upto now, he has used some 80 nyms. He used the 'Arlen Holder' one for
> a relativily long time, so that's why we (YTIW) call him 'Arlen'.

It's kind of sad since occasionally he was able to provide some helpful
advice and about ¼ of his posts were accurate. If he changed his
attitude, and was more careful about researching subjects before posting
then he could be an asset to these groups.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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 by: The Real Bev - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:32 UTC

On 9/25/23 7:13 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
>> On 9/24/23 13:24, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> > think 'Wally J' (aka 'Arlen Holder')
>> OH that's why they're calling you Arlen ok I was confused about that
>
> As you use my name in your attribution line, you probably meant:
>
>> OH that's why they're calling him Arlen ok I was confused about that
> ^^^
>
> Upto now, he has used some 80 nyms. He used the 'Arlen Holder' one for
> a relativily long time, so that's why we (YTIW) call him 'Arlen'.
>

YTIW? I'm usually good at guessing these, but this stumped me.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already
earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by
mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
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 by: Wally J - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:16 UTC

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote

> It's kind of sad since occasionally he was able to provide some helpful
> advice and about � of his posts were accurate. If he changed his
> attitude, and was more careful about researching subjects before posting
> then he could be an asset to these groups.

Steve,

What's sad is _you_ used to be useful, years ago, particularly on the a.h.r
group (e.g., you turned me on to the Pool Guys in Saratoga for chlorine).

Even Frank Slootweg has once (in an entire decade!) provided useful
information (in that case, about smb "clients" on Android with Windows).

All my posts are accurate, by the way, almost 100% - you just don't _like_
the facts (e.g., my T-Mobile signal is great in the Santa Cruz Mountains).
<https://i.postimg.cc/Gtywwn8f/signal01.jpg> cell signal strength graph
<https://i.postimg.cc/xCbVQ2pj/signal02.jpg> cell signal strength graph
<https://i.postimg.cc/CKFhMZtS/signal03.jpg> celltower realtime location
<https://i.postimg.cc/q7JjJ77g/signal04.jpg> Wifi & cellular debugging
<https://i.postimg.cc/4xgmTTgm/wifi01.jpg> graphical radio debuggers
<https://i.postimg.cc/Hn05bQwG/wifi02.jpg> Wi-Fi & cellular utilities
<https://i.postimg.cc/fLC4zcm6/wifi04.jpg> Many signal strength apps
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFx476v/wifi05.jpg> Wi-Fi basic settings

So please be careful when you say 3/4 of my facts aren't accurate when what
you mean is you don't _like_ 3/4 of the accurate facts that I provide.

And man oh man - do I provide _super accurate facts_ Steve. Like no other!
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qd21dwVw/pulsesms01.jpg> PulseSMS was the best
<https://i.postimg.cc/3RdsFtgX/pulsesms02.jpg> Klinker sold to MapleMedia
<https://i.postimg.cc/1tjcm7KJ/pulsesms03.jpg> 5.4.6.2816 last known good version
<https://i.postimg.cc/nL8052Vj/pulsesms04.jpg> PulseSMS Max Image Size
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZR4jYqdJ/pulsesms05.jpg> PulseSMS last good version

I'm one in a million Steve. I'm super smart. Extremely well educated.
And I'm on Usenet (where most are like Carlos/nospam - i.e., idiots/liars).
<https://i.postimg.cc/zD0CDJZz/printing01.jpg> Android10 ConnectionPrefs
<https://i.postimg.cc/xdvmwQ3S/printing02.jpg> ConnectionPrefs > Printing
<https://i.postimg.cc/PxdDh7Sv/printing03.jpg> Search > Print > Services
<https://i.postimg.cc/pTkFdBSG/printing04.jpg> ? > Print > Documentation
<https://i.postimg.cc/5N8c5d9T/printing05.jpg> Added free IPP print apps
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y9TVg85t/printing06.jpg> 11 print services on
<https://i.postimg.cc/FzmF5wYr/printing07.jpg> Shortcut to print settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/DZJprj3b/printing08.jpg> PrintBot static printer
<https://i.postimg.cc/wjqWfTdz/printing09.jpg> PDF > Open with PrintBot
<https://i.postimg.cc/2530Yc6X/printing10.jpg> Drat! It uses the net :(
<https://i.postimg.cc/6qRSK6WY/printing11.jpg> Turn CUPS print server on
<https://i.postimg.cc/9fMnMYX4/printing12.jpg> CUPS wants to use port 631
<https://i.postimg.cc/FHq36MS4/printing13.jpg> Text Reflow option
<https://i.postimg.cc/bYS12Dqm/printing15.jpg> HP uses port 9100
<https://i.postimg.cc/L5Pfd7xc/printing14.jpg> Lets Print Droid icon
<https://i.postimg.cc/L4YqhR1P/printing16.jpg> removed
<https://i.postimg.cc/qq3fY3qT/printing17.jpg> Printer port scan (all ports)

Both of us lived & worked in the Silicon Valley for decades, Steve.

However, I'm also completely _different_ from you Steve - and also similar.

We're both highly educated, for example, where I happen to have higher
degrees than you (yes, I have your resume as it's a matter of public record
given your employment) - but we're not uneducated like the iKooks all are.

Hell, most of the iKooks don't even have a high-school diploma, Steve.

But I'm clearly far better educated than you are, and in highly technical
fields, although you too are an EE so we both have that similar background.

We both worked in extremely technical fields for decades in the Silicon
Valley - but you're a political and I'm the furthest thing from that.

I give everything away for free - and I don't shill like you do.
<https://i.postimg.cc/t4CRQzbN/naturemap01.jpg> Populating hiking folder

I care that people get the truth (which is why I show the iKooks for what
they are) and I care very much by writing tutorials to help them do what I
can do.

You care more about promoting your Google document (which isn't bad - but
which you don't fix enough - not so much in the iPhone part - but your
Android parts are lacking in some respects which you haven't fixed).

But at least we're similar in that you promote your extensive Google
document just as I promote my extensive

Where you are incredibly stupid though, Steve, is you act like the iKooks
in that you declare like a little girl screaming out with glee that you
"figured out" my posts - which were never hidden in the first place.
<https://i.postimg.cc/9fmLBPYD/onoff01.jpg> Shortcut to turn phone off
<https://i.postimg.cc/MTXtCW4x/onoff02.jpg> Test your custom Shortcuts

Jesus Christ. If you can't tell these are from me, you're an idiot.
<https://forum.xda-developers.com/m/galaxya325g.11604613/recent-content>

And if you can't tell these are from me, you're a moron, Steve.
<https://i.postimg.cc/28324Hdp/devopt01.jpg> Settings > Developer options
<https://i.postimg.cc/PrqFSfjR/devopt02.jpg> Useful devoptions switches
<https://i.postimg.cc/7LzRSBkP/devopt03.jpg> More devoptions switches
<https://i.postimg.cc/DZFxLn65/devopt04.jpg> Even more devoptions switches
<https://i.postimg.cc/3N8zZ1vt/devopt05.jpg> Turning Developer Options on
<https://i.postimg.cc/jSB0rypj/devopt06.jpg> Press Build number 7 times
<https://i.postimg.cc/59zcmYFd/devopt07.jpg> Show Refresh Rate = on

Same with Frank Slootweg who thinks he too is an utter genius for figuring
out that nobody but me organizes their phone like I do, Steve.
<https://i.postimg.cc/rwxzyFdM/adinspector01.jpg> AppHub by T-Mobile 2T/2A
<https://i.postimg.cc/YSD5JQp9/adinspector02.jpg> Audio Recorder 2T/0A
<https://i.postimg.cc/3Nmz4624/adinspector03.jpg> Calculator 0T/1A
<https://i.postimg.cc/13BhrL2D/adinspector04.jpg> AccuWeather 6T/2A
<https://i.postimg.cc/hjHHGgQR/adinspector05.jpg> T-Mobile Devce Manager 2T/1A
<https://i.postimg.cc/zGJ4vxvv/adinspector06.jpg> GSAM Battery Monitor 2T/2A
<https://i.postimg.cc/02GL9T8h/adinspector07.jpg> MCM Client 3T/1A
<https://i.postimg.cc/KzwygBVV/adinspector08.jpg> Nova7 2T/0A
<https://i.postimg.cc/fRBp9YSK/adinspector09.jpg> Tor Browser 2T/0A
<https://i.postimg.cc/nzsyZMz1/adinspector10.jpg> Uno Calc 2T/0A

So cut the crap by acting like you're a genius for figuring out what was
never hidden, which is the headers I obfuscate for privacy reasons.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Rh87RNrV/macaddr02.jpg> Random MAC on every connect
<https://i.postimg.cc/SRRXtvKh/adb16.jpg> Android 12 Wireless Pairing
<https://i.postimg.cc/wvsbcNBz/scrcpy05.jpg> Drag APK from Windows
<https://i.postimg.cc/hjkVFyqJ/scrcpy07.jpg> Android mnt as drive letter
<https://i.postimg.cc/9FJMKYch/scrcpy21.jpg> Windows Drive: === Android
<https://i.postimg.cc/XY3qSqKC/vysor04.jpg> Vysor ADB USB setup switches
<https://i.postimg.cc/BvJdKWzt/webdav06.jpg> Both sdcards mounted
<https://i.postimg.cc/nchSVcmS/vysor30.jpg> Static/Reserved IP address

For you to claim it's to elude filters just shows you are an idiot, Steve.
When it wouldn't take an _adult_ more than five seconds to figure it out.

I care about privacy.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:21 UTC

candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote

>> Upto now, he has used some 80 nyms. He used the 'Arlen Holder' one for
>> a relativily long time, so that's why we (YTIW) call him 'Arlen'.
>
> Makes sense.

If it takes someone more than five seconds to figure out my posts, when
they contain extremely specific details (such as those below)...

*They're morons*

<https://i.postimg.cc/Qd21dwVw/pulsesms01.jpg> PulseSMS was the best
<https://i.postimg.cc/3RdsFtgX/pulsesms02.jpg> Klinker sold to MapleMedia
<https://i.postimg.cc/1tjcm7KJ/pulsesms03.jpg> 5.4.6.2816 last known good version
<https://i.postimg.cc/nL8052Vj/pulsesms04.jpg> PulseSMS Max Image Size
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZR4jYqdJ/pulsesms05.jpg> PulseSMS last good version\

The reason the headers change is privacy.
These morons can't comprehend that the value is in the body.

Not in the wrapping paper.

Especially when most posters are using nyms such as "nospam" or you,
candycanearter07...

So please put your _adult_ brain in gear.
a. Recognize I care greatly about privacy.
b. Recognize I care greatly that people get the help they need
c. Recognize I write tutorials which the naysayers never do.

Be an adult.

That means you need to understand the motive.

The idiots like the ignorant iKooks can't comprehend any motive but that of
a child - but I'm hoping you aren't as child like as iKooks clearly are.

Are you?

How long would it take you to figure out these threads are all mine?
<https://forum.xda-developers.com/m/galaxya325g.11604613/recent-content>

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:30 UTC

candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote

>> But get this... the last known good version of PulseSMS works fine on my
>> Android phones - which I have upgraded from Android 11 to 13 sans issues.
>
> Is it still possible to download the older version?

It's no longer shocking how fantastically stupid people like Frank Slootweg
and Steve Scharf just proved they are when they can't click on the links.

You too candycanearter07. Seriously. Why do you think I provided the links?
Why can't you simply click on the links to the URLs I already gave out?

<https://i.postimg.cc/Qd21dwVw/pulsesms01.jpg> PulseSMS was the best
<https://i.postimg.cc/3RdsFtgX/pulsesms02.jpg> Klinker sold to MapleMedia
<https://i.postimg.cc/1tjcm7KJ/pulsesms03.jpg> 5.4.6.2816 last known good version
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<https://i.postimg.cc/ZR4jYqdJ/pulsesms05.jpg> PulseSMS last good version

Jesus Christ.

When someone asks a question and I provide the link with the answer, you're
supposed to own the cognitive skills to click on that link for that answer.

Or at least learn how to run something as simple as a Usenet search...
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=pulsesms%20last%20known%20good%20version>

How hard is it to click on the links I provided _before_ complaining?

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:46 UTC

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote

> I'm usually good at guessing these, but this stumped me.

Are you joking?

The value is in the body - not in the headers.
Do you realize that or not?

If it takes ten seconds to figure out my posts, then something is wrong.

I provided this link many times, for example, TheRealBev.
<https://forum.xda-developers.com/m/galaxya325g.11604613/recent-content>
*How long would it take for you to figure out that's me?*

I posted a link to these screenshots in this very thread too.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qd21dwVw/pulsesms01.jpg> PulseSMS was the best
<https://i.postimg.cc/3RdsFtgX/pulsesms02.jpg> Klinker sold to MapleMedia
<https://i.postimg.cc/1tjcm7KJ/pulsesms03.jpg> 5.4.6.2816 last known good version
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<https://i.postimg.cc/ZR4jYqdJ/pulsesms05.jpg> PulseSMS last good version
*How long would it take for you to figure out those are from me?*

Wanting privacy is something that I'm well known to care about.
If you do not know that, then you haven't been reading any of my posts.

I've had to change news servers because many have gone defunct,
particularly the privacy enabled ones (due to spammers abusing them).

But if you don't know I care about privacy - then start realizing it.
If you don't know the VALUE isn't in the headers - then think about it.

Also, please note that _most_ of my posts are about privacy, right?
*Have you ever noticed that?*

Does it occur to you that the header changes are for privacy?

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 by: Arlen - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:47 UTC

On 2023-09-25 10:21, Wally J wrote:
> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
>
>>> Upto now, he has used some 80 nyms. He used the 'Arlen Holder' one for
>>> a relativily long time, so that's why we (YTIW) call him 'Arlen'.
>>
>> Makes sense.
>
> If it takes someone more than five seconds to figure out my posts, when
> they contain extremely specific details (such as those below)...
>
> *They're morons*
>
> <https://i.postimg.cc/Qd21dwVw/pulsesms01.jpg> PulseSMS was the best
> <https://i.postimg.cc/3RdsFtgX/pulsesms02.jpg> Klinker sold to MapleMedia
> <https://i.postimg.cc/1tjcm7KJ/pulsesms03.jpg> 5.4.6.2816 last known good version
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> <https://i.postimg.cc/ZR4jYqdJ/pulsesms05.jpg> PulseSMS last good version\
>
> The reason the headers change is privacy.

Explain how changing your posting nym enhances your privacy...

....Arlen.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:03 UTC

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/25/23 7:13 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
> >> On 9/24/23 13:24, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >> > think 'Wally J' (aka 'Arlen Holder')
> >> OH that's why they're calling you Arlen ok I was confused about that
> >
> > As you use my name in your attribution line, you probably meant:
> >
> >> OH that's why they're calling him Arlen ok I was confused about that
> > ^^^
> >
> > Upto now, he has used some 80 nyms. He used the 'Arlen Holder' one for
> > a relativily long time, so that's why we (YTIW) call him 'Arlen'.
> >
>
> YTIW? I'm usually good at guessing these, but this stumped me.

Yes There Is We, i.e. the opposite of the more common TINW (There Is
No We). I use it in cases where there *is* a group of people who
think/act/etc. alike.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:13 UTC

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote

>> YTIW? I'm usually good at guessing these, but this stumped me.
>
> Yes There Is We, i.e. the opposite of the more common TINW (There Is
> No We). I use it in cases where there *is* a group of people who
> think/act/etc. alike.

Instead of focusing on your lack of understanding of why people want
privacy and how you can't possibly understand that concept, Frank...

Why don't you focus on the _technical_ question asked?

*Q: What does RCS do that PulseSMS* (using the net) *doesn't already do?*

The answer to _that_ tech question is an adult topic worthy of discussion.

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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:42 UTC

On 9/25/23 12:21, Wally J wrote:
> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
>
>>> Upto now, he has used some 80 nyms. He used the 'Arlen Holder' one for
>>> a relativily long time, so that's why we (YTIW) call him 'Arlen'.
>>
>> Makes sense.
>
> If it takes someone more than five seconds to figure out my posts, when
> they contain extremely specific details (such as those below)...
>
> *They're morons*
>
> <https://i.postimg.cc/Qd21dwVw/pulsesms01.jpg> PulseSMS was the best
> <https://i.postimg.cc/3RdsFtgX/pulsesms02.jpg> Klinker sold to MapleMedia
> <https://i.postimg.cc/1tjcm7KJ/pulsesms03.jpg> 5.4.6.2816 last known good version
> <https://i.postimg.cc/nL8052Vj/pulsesms04.jpg> PulseSMS Max Image Size
> <https://i.postimg.cc/ZR4jYqdJ/pulsesms05.jpg> PulseSMS last good version\
>
> The reason the headers change is privacy.
> These morons can't comprehend that the value is in the body.
>
> Not in the wrapping paper.

As long as it's not impersonation yea.

>
> Especially when most posters are using nyms such as "nospam" or you,
> candycanearter07...

It's an old nickname.

>
> So please put your _adult_ brain in gear.
> a. Recognize I care greatly about privacy.
> b. Recognize I care greatly that people get the help they need
> c. Recognize I write tutorials which the naysayers never do.
>
> Be an adult.
>
> That means you need to understand the motive.
>
> The idiots like the ignorant iKooks can't comprehend any motive but that of
> a child - but I'm hoping you aren't as child like as iKooks clearly are.
>
> Are you?

No
>
> How long would it take you to figure out these threads are all mine?
> <https://forum.xda-developers.com/m/galaxya325g.11604613/recent-content>

You have a pretty distinct writing style.
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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:52 UTC

On 9/25/23 13:03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Yes There Is We, i.e. the opposite of the more common TINW (There Is
> No We). I use it in cases where there *is* a group of people who
> think/act/etc. alike.

Haven't heard of either, are these common in Usenet?
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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:55 UTC

On 9/25/23 12:30, Wally J wrote:
> Or at least learn how to run something as simple as a Usenet search...
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=pulsesms%20last%20known%20good%20version>
>
> How hard is it to click on the links I provided _before_ complaining?

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 by: Alan - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 19:49 UTC

On 2023-09-25 11:55, candycanearter07 wrote:
> On 9/25/23 12:30, Wally J wrote:
>> Or at least learn how to run something as simple as a Usenet search...
>>
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=pulsesms%20last%20known%20good%20version>
>>
>> How hard is it to click on the links I provided _before_ complaining?
>
> Sorry I'm new to Usenet. Might've missed the messages.

It's not you.

Arlen is just a little dick-weasel.

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 by: candycanearter07 - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:20 UTC

On 9/25/23 14:49, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-09-25 11:55, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> On 9/25/23 12:30, Wally J wrote:
>>> Or at least learn how to run something as simple as a Usenet search...
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=pulsesms%20last%20known%20good%20version>
>>>
>>> How hard is it to click on the links I provided _before_ complaining?
>>
>> Sorry I'm new to Usenet. Might've missed the messages.
>
> It's not you.
>
> Arlen is just a little dick-weasel.

Don't be mean to them :(
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 by: Alan - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:33 UTC

On 2023-09-25 17:20, candycanearter07 wrote:
> On 9/25/23 14:49, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-09-25 11:55, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>> On 9/25/23 12:30, Wally J wrote:
>>>> Or at least learn how to run something as simple as a Usenet search...
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=pulsesms%20last%20known%20good%20version>
>>>>
>>>> How hard is it to click on the links I provided _before_ complaining?
>>>
>>> Sorry I'm new to Usenet. Might've missed the messages.
>>
>> It's not you.
>>
>> Arlen is just a little dick-weasel.
>
> Don't be mean to them :(

Ah.

You ARE learning!

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 by: Wally J - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:33 UTC

candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote

>> How long would it take you to figure out these threads are all mine?
>> <https://forum.xda-developers.com/m/galaxya325g.11604613/recent-content>
>
> You have a pretty distinct writing style.

I just posted these images to the Android newsgroup because someone asked
for help on a rooted Android but my phone isn't rootable but what I know
most people don't know is on Android you can still _see_ the root system.

<https://i.postimg.cc/k5F8sLbc/filesys01.jpg> Starting WebDAV servers
<https://i.postimg.cc/RZtw6WC2/filesys02.jpg> Mount Android system filesys
<https://i.postimg.cc/Zngy0SGT/filesys03.jpg> Look at /etc/resolv.conf
<https://i.postimg.cc/nzFmPTKt/filesys04.jpg> Can use the command line
<https://i.postimg.cc/PJF1ZZwn/filesys05.jpg> Look at the dnsproxy file

That's pretty distinctive stuff, right?

That's why I shake my head with dismay whenever the iKooks or Frank
Slootweg (who is as dumb as they are) or Steve Scharf scream out like a
little girl who just got a Barbie doll gift - that they "figured me out".

If it takes more than five seconds to "figure out" my posts, people should
_not_ be screaming out with joyous glee that they're utter geniuses at it.

I change headers for privacy reasons.

If people can't understand that, they should still be able to comprehend
that most of my tutorials are about privacy - right?

It's perfectly in keeping that header privacy is part of privacy on the
Internet - even if the morons like Frank Slootweg & Steve Scharf can't
comprehend something as simple and as obvious as that basic concept is.

If you don't mind - I'd rather get back to the _adult_ issues please,
as defending privacy to people who can't understand it is a waste of time.

Re: Google Offers to Help Apple Implement RCS Messaging on iOS

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:25 UTC

candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
> On 9/25/23 13:03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Yes There Is We, i.e. the opposite of the more common TINW (There Is
> > No We). I use it in cases where there *is* a group of people who
> > think/act/etc. alike.
>
> Haven't heard of either, are these common in Usenet?

TINW is quite common:

'TINW'
<https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TINW>
"Acronym Definition

TINW There is No We (USENET)
TINW This is Not working"

You can often find explanations for these kind of unknown terms, by
doing a "define: <keyword>" (without the quotess) search in Google, so
in this case "define: TINW".

As I said, YTIW is a derivative. It's probably not that common, so I
spread the word! :-)

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 by: candycanearter07 - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:51 UTC

On 9/26/23 08:25, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> As I said, YTIW is a derivative. It's probably not that common, so I
> spread the word! :-)

Okey
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