Hi,
Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
out my ram before I killed it.
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Am 22.10.23 um 21:30 schrieb candycanearter07:
> Hi,
> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
> out my ram before I killed it.

Where is the connection to *LINUX*?

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On 2023-10-22 22:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 22.10.23 um 21:30 schrieb candycanearter07:
>> Hi,
>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
>> out my ram before I killed it.
>
> Where is the connection to *LINUX*?

Steam runs in Linux.

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Am 22.10.23 um 22:51 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> On 2023-10-22 22:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 22.10.23 um 21:30 schrieb candycanearter07:
>>> Hi,
>>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
>>> out my ram before I killed it.
>>
>> Where is the connection to *LINUX*?
>
> Steam runs in Linux.

Completely OT. It runs on Mac, Windows, iOS, Android and also - probably
least important - on Linux.

Steam is a video game digital distribution service and storefront
developed by Valve Corporation. It was launched as a software client in
September 2003 to provide game updates automatically for Valve's games,
and expanded to distributing third-party titles in late 2005.

A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.

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On 2023-10-22 23:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 22.10.23 um 22:51 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
>> On 2023-10-22 22:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 22.10.23 um 21:30 schrieb candycanearter07:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
>>>> out my ram before I killed it.
>>>
>>> Where is the connection to *LINUX*?
>>
>> Steam runs in Linux.
>
> Completely OT. It runs on Mac, Windows, iOS, Android and also - probably
> least important -  on Linux.

It runs in Linux, so it in ON topic.

>
> Steam is a video game digital distribution service and storefront
> developed by Valve Corporation. It was launched as a software client in
> September 2003 to provide game updates automatically for Valve's games,
> and expanded to distributing third-party titles in late 2005.
>
> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.

Not necessarily. Stop grumbling.

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Am 22.10.23 um 23:18 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> On 2023-10-22 23:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 22.10.23 um 22:51 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
>>> On 2023-10-22 22:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> Am 22.10.23 um 21:30 schrieb candycanearter07:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
>>>>> out my ram before I killed it.
>>>>
>>>> Where is the connection to *LINUX*?
>>>
>>> Steam runs in Linux.
>>
>> Completely OT. It runs on Mac, Windows, iOS, Android and also - probably
>> least important -  on Linux.
>
> It runs in Linux, so it in ON topic.
>
>>
>> Steam is a video game digital distribution service and storefront
>> developed by Valve Corporation. It was launched as a software client in
>> September 2003 to provide game updates automatically for Valve's games,
>> and expanded to distributing third-party titles in late 2005.
>>
>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>
> Not necessarily. Stop grumbling.

Want a fight who of us is the better *NETCOP*?

*LOL*

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candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> writes:
> Hi,
> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
> out my ram before I killed it.

Not for me.
How are you measuring ‘take up 5+ GB's of ram’?

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In comp.os.linux.misc Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-10-22 23:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 22.10.23 um 22:51 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
>>> On 2023-10-22 22:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> Am 22.10.23 um 21:30 schrieb candycanearter07:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost
>>>>> maxing out my ram before I killed it.
>>>>
>>>> Where is the connection to *LINUX*?
>>>
>>> Steam runs in Linux.
>>
>> Completely OT. It runs on Mac, Windows, iOS, Android and also -
>> probably least important -  on Linux.
>
> It runs in Linux, so it in ON topic.

The troll's gotta troll

>> Steam is a video game digital distribution service and storefront
>> developed by Valve Corporation. It was launched as a software
>> client in September 2003 to provide game updates automatically for
>> Valve's games, and expanded to distributing third-party titles in
>> late 2005.
>>
>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>
> Not necessarily. Stop grumbling.

What do you expect from the local troll. Plonking Jorg provides a much
better experience.

Am 23.10.23 um 04:23 schrieb Rich:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> Not necessarily. Stop grumbling.
>
> What do you expect from the local troll. Plonking Jorg provides a much
> better experience.

Obviously you have no clue how to do that. Otherwise you wouldn't see
subthreads. *You did not pass*.

P.S.: Only beginners crosspost.

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On 10/22/23 17:36, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> writes:
>> Hi,
>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
>> out my ram before I killed it.
>
> Not for me.
> How are you measuring ‘take up 5+ GB's of ram’?
>

So I use xosview and the swap bar dropped from 4gb to sub 1gb when I
killed steam. The mem bar dropped from 14g to like 11g. So about 5gb.
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On 22/10/2023 21.30, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Hi,
> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
> out my ram before I killed it.

Linux Desktop version?
SteamOS ?
Steam Deck?

Which value are you looking at?
If you look at VIRT in like top/htop/... the value can be quite high,
but this includes shared resources, which is is counted in each
application even if there is just one library loaded in memory, some of
the resources don't even have to have been loaded as the application
hasn't even loaded the resource, but could potentiality.
For example my browser is showing me that it's VIRT is 1133GB, slightly
more than my 64GB ram + 0B swap.

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candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> writes:
>>> Hi,
>>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
>>> out my ram before I killed it.
>> Not for me.
>> How are you measuring ‘take up 5+ GB's of ram’?
>
> So I use xosview and the swap bar dropped from 4gb to sub 1gb when I
> killed steam. The mem bar dropped from 14g to like 11g. So about 5gb.

What does ‘top’ report for Steam?

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On 10/23/23 01:10, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 22/10/2023 21.30, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
>> out my ram before I killed it.
>
> Linux Desktop version?
> SteamOS ?
>  Steam Deck?
>

Desktop

> Which value are you looking at?
> If you look at VIRT in like top/htop/... the value can be quite high,
> but this includes shared resources, which is is counted in each
> application even if there is just one library loaded in memory, some of
> the resources don't even have to have been loaded as the application
> hasn't even loaded the resource, but could potentiality.
> For example my browser is showing me that it's VIRT is 1133GB, slightly
> more than my 64GB ram + 0B swap.

It seems to grow over time, with the htop reading above 50% sometimes
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On 23/10/2023 09.40, candycanearter07 wrote:
> On 10/23/23 01:10, J.O. Aho wrote:
>> On 22/10/2023 21.30, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost
>>> maxing out my ram before I killed it.
>>
>> Linux Desktop version?
>> SteamOS ?
>>   Steam Deck?
>>
>
> Desktop
>
>> Which value are you looking at?
>> If you look at VIRT in like top/htop/... the value can be quite high,
>> but this includes shared resources, which is is counted in each
>> application even if there is just one library loaded in memory, some
>> of the resources don't even have to have been loaded as the
>> application hasn't even loaded the resource, but could potentiality.
>> For example my browser is showing me that it's VIRT is 1133GB,
>> slightly more than my 64GB ram + 0B swap.
>
> It seems to grow over time, with the htop reading above 50% sometimes

Just ignore the VIRT value keep more an eye on the RES, if that starts
to run away then there could be a memory leak of some kind (in steam or
something it's dependent of). for me it's around 165MB, which most of
are shared resources.

steamwebhelper seems to take 313MB of which half is shared resource, but
still everything is under 1G and much is then shared with other processes.

I run with the beta version of the client on my Desktop, today it's
version 1697843490.

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On 10/23/2023 3:33 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> writes:
>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> writes:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost maxing
>>>> out my ram before I killed it.
>>> Not for me.
>>> How are you measuring ‘take up 5+ GB's of ram’?
>>
>> So I use xosview and the swap bar dropped from 4gb to sub 1gb when I
>> killed steam. The mem bar dropped from 14g to like 11g. So about 5gb.
>
> What does ‘top’ report for Steam?
>

Part of the problem, indicated here, is that Steam may have
a portion of a web browser inside. Which is just stupid,
for a simple game launcher.

"These are used to display the Steam Store, the Community, and even your game Library."

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta/discussions/3/3826413850815781297/

There is a picture of the absurdity on that page, showing a "Steam Client Webhelper".
it's possible the Linux version, would be equipped in a similar way. Because it
involves what looks like multiple processes, it could be a Chrome engine or a
Firefox engine of some sort. Looking in the file list for the Steam client,
you may be able to spot the browser engine components.

Steam (low memory usage)
steam Client Webhelper (not so low memory usage)

This is a recommendation for the Windows client. Try launching from
the command line, with a similar setup, in Linux.

https://www.howtogeek.com/694531/how-to-reduce-steams-ram-usage-from-400-mb-to-60-mb/

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe" -no-browser +open steam://open/minigameslist

Paul

On 10/23/23 03:15, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 23/10/2023 09.40, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> On 10/23/23 01:10, J.O. Aho wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2023 21.30, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Is it normal for steam to take up 5+ GB's of ram? It was almost
>>>> maxing out my ram before I killed it.
>>>
>>> Linux Desktop version?
>>> SteamOS ?
>>>   Steam Deck?
>>>
>>
>> Desktop
>>
>>> Which value are you looking at?
>>> If you look at VIRT in like top/htop/... the value can be quite high,
>>> but this includes shared resources, which is is counted in each
>>> application even if there is just one library loaded in memory, some
>>> of the resources don't even have to have been loaded as the
>>> application hasn't even loaded the resource, but could potentiality.
>>> For example my browser is showing me that it's VIRT is 1133GB,
>>> slightly more than my 64GB ram + 0B swap.
>>
>> It seems to grow over time, with the htop reading above 50% sometimes
>
> Just ignore the VIRT value keep more an eye on the RES, if that starts
> to run away then there could be a memory leak of some kind (in steam or
> something it's dependent of). for me it's around 165MB, which most of
> are shared resources.
>
> steamwebhelper seems to take 313MB of which half is shared resource, but
> still everything is under 1G and much is then shared with other processes.
>
> I run with the beta version of the client on my Desktop, today it's
> version 1697843490.
>

Okay. It seems to take a day or two to grow the memory usage, so I'll
update then.
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On 10/22/23 16:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>

Are you an idiot, or do you know you're being adorable? A game group
would only help if you're running Steam on Windows. If you want to talk
about Steam on Linux, you need to post in a Linux group.

If you think it's off topic, block the thread.

On 23.10.23 15:07, rdh wrote:
> On 10/22/23 16:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>>
>
> Are you an idiot, or do you know you're being adorable? A game group
> would only help if you're running Steam on Windows. If you want to talk
> about Steam on Linux, you need to post in a Linux group.

I couldn't care less. It is and remains OT. I think the antisocial idiot
and Troll is you.

What do you think how many of the few Linux-users are running Steam?
It is obvious you have no clue.

> If you think it's off topic, block the thread.

Block would be absolutely sufficient.

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On 23.10.23 15:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 23.10.23 15:07, rdh wrote:
>> On 10/22/23 16:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>>>
>>
>> Are you an idiot, or do you know you're being adorable? A game group
>> would only help if you're running Steam on Windows. If you want to talk
>> about Steam on Linux, you need to post in a Linux group.
>
> I couldn't care less. It is and remains OT. I think the antisocial idiot
> and Troll is you.
>
> What do you think how many of the few Linux-users are running Steam?
> It is obvious you have no clue.
>
>> If you think it's off topic, block the thread.
>
> Block would be absolutely sufficient.

rdh <rdh@tilde.institute> that says it all. Idiot.

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rdh <rdh@tilde.institute> wrote:
> On 10/22/23 16:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>>
>
> Are you an idiot,

The answer here is yes.

> or do you know you're being adorable?

No, being a troll is more accurate.

> A game group would only help if you're running Steam on Windows. If
> you want to talk about Steam on Linux, you need to post in a Linux
> group.
>
> If you think it's off topic, block the thread.

Jorg's the local troll. Best to just plonk any message from Jorg (hugybear@gmx.ch
or hugybear@gmx.net) and not see its posts again.

On 2023-10-23 15:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 23.10.23 15:07, rdh wrote:
>> On 10/22/23 16:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>>>
>>
>> Are you an idiot, or do you know you're being adorable? A game group
>> would only help if you're running Steam on Windows. If you want to talk
>> about Steam on Linux, you need to post in a Linux group.
>
> I couldn't care less. It is and remains OT. I think the antisocial idiot
> and Troll is you.
>
> What do you think how many of the few Linux-users are running Steam?
> It is obvious you have no clue.

There are obviously many Linux users that run Steam in Linux.
just google it.

Okay, how many Linux users are there on Steam? For an estimation of the
total number of Linux users on Steam, Valve reported they had 132
million "monthly active users" in March 2022 (source). Using the latest
months recorded share (Sep-2023 - 1.63%): 2,151,600 estimated "monthly
active users" for Linux+Steam.

Steam Linux Market Share | GamingOnLinux
GamingOnLinux
https://www.gamingonlinux.com › steam-tracker

On the other hand, it is true that a Linux gamer asking something in a
gaming group would probably be ignored or not welcomed.

By insisting this question is offtopic here, you are just getting
signalled more and more as... sorry, an idiot.

Shut up and don't make it worse, or better, just accept your mistake,
and say "sorry".

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On 23.10.23 16:08, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-10-23 15:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 23.10.23 15:07, rdh wrote:
>>> On 10/22/23 16:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you an idiot, or do you know you're being adorable? A game group
>>> would only help if you're running Steam on Windows. If you want to talk
>>> about Steam on Linux, you need to post in a Linux group.
>>
>> I couldn't care less. It is and remains OT. I think the antisocial idiot
>> and Troll is you.
>>
>> What do you think how many of the few Linux-users are running Steam?
>> It is obvious you have no clue.
>
> There are obviously many Linux users that run Steam in Linux.
> just google it.
>
> Okay, how many Linux users are there on Steam? For an estimation of the
> total number of Linux users on Steam, Valve reported they had 132
> million "monthly active users" in March 2022 (source). Using the latest
> months recorded share (Sep-2023 - 1.63%): 2,151,600 estimated "monthly
> active users" for Linux+Steam.

Now you break that down to the number of the regulars in this group. But
you make my case that the OP should consult a game group anyway.

You start to contradict yourself.

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On 23/10/2023 14:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 23.10.23 15:07, rdh wrote:
>> On 10/22/23 16:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>>>
>>
>> Are you an idiot, or do you know you're being adorable? A game group
>> would only help if you're running Steam on Windows. If you want to talk
>> about Steam on Linux, you need to post in a Linux group.
>
> I couldn't care less. It is and remains OT. I think the antisocial idiot
> and Troll is you.
>
> What do you think how many of the few Linux-users are running Steam?
> It is obvious you have no clue.
>
At least two posters here are. I might be but I decided that more games
were something my life probably wasn't long enough for :-)

It is obvious you have no clue.
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 16:43:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in <uh64b2$37kjk$6@dont-email.me>:

> On 23/10/2023 14:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 23.10.23 15:07, rdh wrote:
>>> On 10/22/23 16:05, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> A game group would be a better fit and probably yield better help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Are you an idiot, or do you know you're being adorable? A game group
>>> would only help if you're running Steam on Windows. If you want to
>>> talk about Steam on Linux, you need to post in a Linux group.
>>
>> I couldn't care less. It is and remains OT. I think the antisocial
>> idiot and Troll is you.
>>
>> What do you think how many of the few Linux-users are running Steam?
>> It is obvious you have no clue.
>>
> At least two posters here are. I might be but I decided that more games
> were something my life probably wasn't long enough for :-)
>

I run Steam for my games: usually Elite Dangerous, but lately it's been
Starfield.[*]

The steam process itself takes up about 500MB of RSS. "steamwebhelper"
gets a little crazy, though.

[*] BTW, Starfield won't run with nvidia-535 drivers,
you have to hold back your nvidia-525 drivers and
use those. On Windows, NVidia has version 537 now, which
corrects the problem for Starfield gamers,
but Linux doesn't get the update yet, because reasons.

(Linux is a red-headed stepchild when it comes to nvidia updates. :/ )

BTW, I played Fallout 3 on Linux when Windows couldn't really run
it anymore. That was on WINE. But now, we have proton -- woot. :)

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On 10/23/23 16:05, vallor wrote:
> The steam process itself takes up about 500MB of RSS. "steamwebhelper"
> gets a little crazy, though.

That would probably explain it.
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