Need a laugh?

Microslop, the world's richest company, depends totally on ffmpeg
(https://ffmpeg.org/).

Need a bigger laugh?

Microslop, the world's richest company, is also the world's biggest
leecher:

https://aussie.zone/post/8540166

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! The world's highest paid software
engineers have to go begging to a FOSS project for assistance and
then expect immediate, high priority attention just because they
are Microslop.

Well, ffmpeg got it right. They placed their ticket at number 42.

Stand in line like everyone else, you fucking moochers.

On 4/10/24 09:29, Lester Thorpe wrote:
> Need a laugh?
>
> Microslop, the world's richest company, depends totally on ffmpeg
> (https://ffmpeg.org/).
>
> Need a bigger laugh?
>
> Microslop, the world's richest company, is also the world's biggest
> leecher:
>
> https://aussie.zone/post/8540166
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! The world's highest paid software
> engineers have to go begging to a FOSS project for assistance and
> then expect immediate, high priority attention just because they
> are Microslop.
>
> Well, ffmpeg got it right. They placed their ticket at number 42.
>
> Stand in line like everyone else, you fucking moochers.
>

The picture might be different. The one's behind FOSS themselves, I
think, are likely Microsoft people. Every single one of them.

I think they begin as independent bright developers of various sorts,
then when they prove themselves, Microsoft simply buys them.

On 4/10/2024 10:29 AM, Lying Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote:

> Microslop, the world's richest company, is also the world's biggest
> leecher:

The biggest technical mooch in history is GuhNoo freeloading off the
design, names and functionality of Unix.

"Starting this Thanksgiving I am going to write a complete
Unix-compatible software system called GNU (for Gnu's Not Unix), and
give it away free to everyone who can use it." - Wretched Richard
Stallman Sep 27 1983

He failed in his mission, of course, but thanks to Torvalds his dream of
being an OS parasite and "commercial software killer" was realized.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 4/10/2024 10:29 AM, Lying Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote:
>
>> Microslop, the world's richest company, is also the world's biggest
>> leecher:
>
>The biggest technical mooch in history is GuhNoo freeloading off the
>design, names and functionality of Unix.
>
>
>"Starting this Thanksgiving I am going to write a complete
>Unix-compatible software system called GNU (for Gnu's Not Unix), and
>give it away free?to everyone who can use it." - Wretched Richard
>Stallman Sep 27 1983
>
>
>He failed in his mission, of course, but thanks to Torvalds his dream of
>being an OS parasite and "commercial software killer" was realized.

Ridiculous. GNU and Linux together are a masterpiece of what open
source software can accomplish. I'm running a distro of GNU/Linux on
a computer that's good enough to upgrade to Win12, but I don't even
need that, thanks to Stallman and Torvalds. They may have gotten the
idea from the origins of Unix, but their combined product is its own.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:

> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>
>> (idiocy and lies snipped)
>
> Ridiculous.

That shameless jackass doesn't deserve a response. He's self-nuking.

--
"In other words, [with FOSS] you take what they give you and you
better like it." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>Joel wrote:
>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>
>>> (idiocy and lies snipped)
>>
>> Ridiculous.
>
>That shameless jackass doesn't deserve a response. He's self-nuking.

I wouldn't dispute that, but it is worth saying again that the
community has achieved something beyond just copying Unix.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>Joel wrote:
>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (idiocy and lies snipped)
>>>
>>> Ridiculous.
>>
>>That shameless jackass doesn't deserve a response. He's self-nuking.
>
>I wouldn't dispute that, but it is worth saying again that the
>community has achieved something beyond just copying Unix.

Haters never give credit to the FOSS community for all the good work
that has been done, and the tremendous benefits it has brought to our
world. It's all sneering and ridicule.

--
"Giving it away for free, with the source code, is a schtick. A slimy
schtick at that." - some dumb fsck

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:55:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
<9k2e1jd7qqo27t930m1g3k8beu5j7m58gg@4ax.com>:

> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>Joel wrote:
>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (idiocy and lies snipped)
>>>
>>> Ridiculous.
>>
>>That shameless jackass doesn't deserve a response. He's self-nuking.
>
>
> I wouldn't dispute that, but it is worth saying again that the
> community has achieved something beyond just copying Unix.

I think the only commercial UNIX®️ around now is MacOS.

I think Linux has kind of carved its own niche at this point,
it's a POSIX OS, a "Unix" with many useful extensions. Hell,
we relied on Linux's superior fork(2) (to SunOS) COW implementation on
our RADIUS servers -- in 1992. Each RADIUS request was fork'ed, carrying
along with it the entire user database...only, the OS just marked those
pages copy-on-write, so there was no copying the entire memory space for
the new process. (SunOS _did_ have vfork(), but Linux's fork(2) was still
better.) Linus may have stood on the shoulders of giants, but he
is a genius, no doubt.

When we picked Linux to base our services on, we picked a
winner -- and it's _everywhere_ now. It's infrastructure:
RADIUS servers, DHCP servers, routers, name
servers -- hell, it's on my _phone_.

("But muh desktop runs Windows!" -- well, good for you.)

--
-v

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:35:12 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<uv6m53$14cna$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 4/10/2024 10:29 AM, Lying Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote:
>
>
>> Microslop, the world's richest company, is also the world's biggest
>> leecher:
>
>
> The biggest technical mooch in history is GuhNoo freeloading off the
> design, names and functionality of Unix.
>
>
> "Starting this Thanksgiving I am going to write a complete
> Unix-compatible software system called GNU (for Gnu's Not Unix), and
> give it away free to everyone who can use it." - Wretched Richard
> Stallman Sep 27 1983
>
>
> He failed in his mission, of course, but thanks to Torvalds his dream of
> being an OS parasite and "commercial software killer" was realized.

What a weird perspective you have on modern systems.

Take TCP/IP, for example:

Where did Windows get TCP/IP from? Remember when Bill Gates
thought the Internet was a "fad", until he had his bad burrito dream?

Before Windows had TCP/IP, you had to run something like Trumpet Winsock
to provide the services. Linux TCP/IP had a shaky start, but today,
it houses the most advanced networking stack, except possibly
the BSD's, and that's debatable.

And now Windows actually incorporates Linux as a "subsystem" to do
things Windows simply can't do.

Second time I've said it today: we stand on the shoulders of giants.
"We" being both Linux and Windows.

Azure? Runs on the Microsoft Linux distribution.

You think there's a battle being fought -- but the war is over, and
Microsoft is like post-war Germany, being rehabilitated by
the democracies.

You're like the out-of-touch soldier stuck on a South
East Asian island, unaware the war is long over, defending
desperately your desktop hilltop.

You're stuck in the age of the SCO sales debacle.

--
-v

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>the
>>community has achieved something beyond just copying Unix.
>
>Haters never give credit to the FOSS community for all the good work
>that has been done, and the tremendous benefits it has brought to our
>world. It's all sneering and ridicule.

It's a competitive environment with commercial OSes. No matter what
they'll admit.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:12:53 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
<t4ee1j901c9q097g31kkni0cioqp2v9kl9@4ax.com>:

> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>the community has achieved something beyond just copying Unix.
>>
>>Haters never give credit to the FOSS community for all the good work
>>that has been done, and the tremendous benefits it has brought to our
>>world. It's all sneering and ridicule.
>
>
> It's a competitive environment with commercial OSes. No matter what
> they'll admit.

Microsoft is trying to figure out how to survive in this brave
new world.

What happened to Midori?

--
-v

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 00:12:51 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

> I think the only commercial UNIX®️ around now is MacOS.

IBM's AIX and HP's HP-UX. z/OS is registered with the Open Group but
it's pretty far from the tree. Xinuos may still have a 32-bit offering it
inherited from SCO that's it is keeping alive for legacy iron.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:04:43 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> Haters never give credit to the FOSS community for all the good work
> that has been done, and the tremendous benefits it has brought to our
> world. It's all sneering and ridicule.

https://mathspp.com/blog/503-days-working-full-time-on-foss-lessons-
learned?utm_source=tldrwebdev

I don't know what Textual does but here it is in all its glory:

https://textual.textualize.io/

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 01:24:19 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

> What happened to Midori?

Never trust bright green anything, including booze.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 00:58:16 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

>>
>> He failed in his mission, of course, but thanks to Torvalds his dream of
>> being an OS parasite and "commercial software killer" was realized.
>
> What a weird perspective you have on modern systems.
>
> You're stuck in the age of the SCO sales debacle.
>

Yep. You got it.

He is a wretched little man, a pathetic dinosaur without relevancy.
There is nothing else for him to do other than futilely fume over
the inevitable ascension and domination of FOSS.

On 4/10/2024 3:04 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 4/10/2024 10:29 AM, Lying Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote:
>>
>>> Microslop, the world's richest company, is also the world's biggest
>>> leecher:
>>
>> The biggest technical mooch in history is GuhNoo freeloading off the
>> design, names and functionality of Unix.
>>
>>
>> "Starting this Thanksgiving I am going to write a complete
>> Unix-compatible software system called GNU (for Gnu's Not Unix), and
>> give it away free?to everyone who can use it." - Wretched Richard
>> Stallman Sep 27 1983
>>
>>
>> He failed in his mission, of course, but thanks to Torvalds his dream of
>> being an OS parasite and "commercial software killer" was realized.
>
>
> Ridiculous.

Isn't it? But when you have no ideas of your own, and you think
everyone owes you their code (but they won't give it up), all you can do
is beg, borrow and steal.

> GNU and Linux together are a masterpiece of what open
> source software can accomplish.

No doubt some FOSS is quite, quite good, free of cost or not.

For instance, the SQLite dbms is public domain and open source (but not
actually "Free" software, ie I don't have to make available to anyone
modifications I make that I might sell or distribute).

But it's great stuff. It's so easy to install and create databases, and
table objects, and do backups and send around via email, etc.

Note: it's payware, but I still consider MS Office the best software
value in history. I won't accept ANY other office suite, free of cost
or not, because I KNOW they ALL pale in comparison to MSO.

> I'm running a distro of GNU/Linux on
> a computer that's good enough to upgrade to Win12, but I don't even
> need that, thanks to Stallman and Torvalds. They may have gotten the
> idea from the origins of Unix, but their combined product is its own.

They (the 'community') wrote the code so it technically is theirs, but
basing it so closely on an existing product is a chump move. Note the
Linux kernel isn't based on an existing product.

But as noted, GuhNoo just stole everything they could from Unix: the
file layout structure, the utility names and functionality, and even the
incorporation of 'Unix' into their silly recursive name.

I'm surprised GNU/FSF hasn't been sued more (one guy brought an
ill-conceived action against them, but he had no lawyer and his case was
dismissed because he couldn't prove his claim or any injury).

On 4/10/2024 9:24 PM, vallor wrote:

> Microsoft is trying to figure out how to survive in this brave
> new world.

heh!

Bloaty, you do come up with some howlers from time to time. Too much
food has confused you.

MS is the most valuable company in the history of the world.

On 4/10/2024 8:12 PM, vallor wrote:

> ("But muh desktop runs Windows!" -- well, good for you.)

Not just mine, but nearly everyone's: most desktops at your company, all
your family, all your friends, etc.

Nobody would've ever popped into cola were it not for desktop Linux.
It's all Torvalds cares about, too.

On 4/11/2024 3:41 AM, Lame Larry Piet wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 00:58:16 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>
>>>
>>> He failed in his mission, of course, but thanks to Torvalds his dream of
>>> being an OS parasite and "commercial software killer" was realized.
>>
>> What a weird perspective you have on modern systems.
>>
>> You're stuck in the age of the SCO sales debacle.
>>
>
> Yep. You got it.
>
> He is a wretched little man, a pathetic dinosaur without relevancy.
> There is nothing else for him to do other than futilely fume over
> the inevitable ascension and domination of FOSS.

Microsoft is doomed?

idiot

On 4/11/2024 3:41 AM, Lame Larry Piet wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 00:58:16 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>
>>>
>>> He failed in his mission, of course, but thanks to Torvalds his dream of
>>> being an OS parasite and "commercial software killer" was realized.
>>
>> What a weird perspective you have on modern systems.
>>
>> You're stuck in the age of the SCO sales debacle.
>>
>
> Yep. You got it.
>
> He is a wretched little man, a pathetic dinosaur without relevancy.
> There is nothing else for him to do other than futilely fume over
> the inevitable ascension and domination of FOSS.

Microsoft is doomed?

idiot

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

>("But muh [DFS's] desktop runs Windows!" -- well, good for you.)

It is a pathetic troll, really. But perhaps expected in this NG.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 4/10/2024 8:12 PM, vallor wrote:
>
>> ("But muh desktop runs Windows!" -- well, good for you.)
>
>Not just mine, but nearly everyone's: most desktops at your company, all
>your family, all your friends, etc.
>
>Nobody would've ever popped into cola were it not for desktop Linux.
>It's all Torvalds cares about, too.

I prefer desktop Linux to what I had with Win11.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 4/10/2024 3:04 PM, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The biggest technical mooch in history is GuhNoo freeloading off the
>>> design, names and functionality of Unix.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Starting this Thanksgiving I am going to write a complete
>>> Unix-compatible software system called GNU (for Gnu's Not Unix), and
>>> give it away free?to everyone who can use it." - Wretched Richard
>>> Stallman Sep 27 1983
>>>
>>>
>>> He failed in his mission, of course, but thanks to Torvalds his dream of
>>> being an OS parasite and "commercial software killer" was realized.
>>
>> Ridiculous.
>
>Isn't it? But when you have no ideas of your own, and you think
>everyone owes you their code (but they won't give it up), all you can do
>is beg, borrow and steal.

???

>> GNU and Linux together are a masterpiece of what open
>> source software can accomplish.
>
>No doubt some FOSS is quite, quite good, free of cost or not.
>
>For instance, the SQLite dbms is public domain and open source (but not
>actually "Free" software, ie I don't have to make available to anyone
>modifications I make that I might sell or distribute).
>
>But it's great stuff. It's so easy to install and create databases, and
>table objects, and do backups and send around via email, etc.
>
>Note: it's payware, but I still consider MS Office the best software
>value in history. I won't accept ANY other office suite, free of cost
>or not, because I KNOW they ALL pale in comparison to MSO.

I dunno about that - but I did have Photoshop for more months, that I
deleted with Win11. GIMP is fine for me.

>> I'm running a distro of GNU/Linux on
>> a computer that's good enough to upgrade to Win12, but I don't even
>> need that, thanks to Stallman and Torvalds. They may have gotten the
>> idea from the origins of Unix, but their combined product is its own.
>
>They (the 'community') wrote the code so it technically is theirs, but
>basing it so closely on an existing product is a chump move. Note the
>Linux kernel isn't based on an existing product.
>
>But as noted, GuhNoo just stole everything they could from Unix: the
>file layout structure, the utility names and functionality, and even the
>incorporation of 'Unix' into their silly recursive name.
>
>I'm surprised GNU/FSF hasn't been sued more (one guy brought an
>ill-conceived action against them, but he had no lawyer and his case was
>dismissed because he couldn't prove his claim or any injury).

....

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 14:45 this Thursday (GMT):
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>On 4/10/2024 8:12 PM, vallor wrote:
>>
>>> ("But muh desktop runs Windows!" -- well, good for you.)
>>
>>Not just mine, but nearly everyone's: most desktops at your company, all
>>your family, all your friends, etc.
>>
>>Nobody would've ever popped into cola were it not for desktop Linux.
>>It's all Torvalds cares about, too.
>
>
> I prefer desktop Linux to what I had with Win11.

Same, but W10.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

On 4/11/2024 10:45 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 4/10/2024 8:12 PM, vallor wrote:
>>
>>> ("But muh desktop runs Windows!" -- well, good for you.)
>>
>> Not just mine, but nearly everyone's: most desktops at your company, all
>> your family, all your friends, etc.
>>
>> Nobody would've ever popped into cola were it not for desktop Linux.
>> It's all Torvalds cares about, too.
>
>
> I prefer desktop Linux to what I had with Win11.

You don't have to convince me - just yourself.

"Win10/11 gives me more enjoyment [than Linux], in using my machine."
"I love Windows" 5x
"I will probably never run Linux again"

- Joel in the very recent past