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From: bowman@montana.com (rbowman)
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 by: rbowman - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:40 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 03:10:11 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 20:40 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:40:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> 2 steps forward, but the ads still kill it for me. I'm sick of AI
>>> marketing everywhere.
>>
>> I use Brave which has its own search engine and half-assed AI summary.
>> I've noticed that many searches come back with ads. Bad example but
>> 'cat food' comes back with 'Shopping', Amazon hits, clickbait sites
>> 'The Best Cat Food of 2024' and so forth unless you narrow it with 'cat
>> food wiki'
>> that at least gets some information on what you feed an obligate
>> carnivore.
>
>
> Didn't brave have some big controversy?

Not that I recall. It was a little rough in the beginning but is now
another chromium based browser with excellent ad blocking and privacy.

Any controversy involved Brendan Eich. He was a co-founder, CTO, and CEO
of Mozilla before being forced out after donating to California
Proposition 8 which opposed same sex marriage.

He also created JavaScript which some may see as a strike against him.

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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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 by: Chris Ahlstrom - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 11:57 UTC

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 07:33:43 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:09:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Have you tried Entenmann's choc cupcakes?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.entenmanns.com/en/products/chocolate-crème-filled-cupcakes
>>>
>>> Entemann's isn't bad but it can't compare to Freihofer's chocolate chip
>>> cookies or in this season Freihofer's hot cross buns. Neither make it
>>> west of the Mississippi afaik so I'm spared the temptation.
>>>
>>> Both now are owned by Bimbo Bakeries. How the hell did that company
>>> avoid being canceled by the bimbos?
>>
>> It's a multinational Mexican co.
>
> So it is.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimbo_Bakeries_USA
>
> "The name "Bimbo" was first coined in 1945 when the company switched from
> Super Pan S.A.[clarification needed] A blend of the words "bingo" and
> "Bambi",[9] the name's innocent, childlike associations fit the image that
> the company wished to build. The English word "bimbo", with its negative
> connotations, has no corollary in Spanish."
>
> Car manufacturers have also picked inappropriate names for models
> targeting a non-English market. The perils of being a multinational.

Chevy Nova ("no go")

--
You're a card which will have to be dealt with.

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 by: candycanearter07 - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:40 UTC

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 04:40 this Friday (GMT):
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 03:10:11 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 20:40 this Thursday (GMT):
>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:40:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2 steps forward, but the ads still kill it for me. I'm sick of AI
>>>> marketing everywhere.
>>>
>>> I use Brave which has its own search engine and half-assed AI summary.
>>> I've noticed that many searches come back with ads. Bad example but
>>> 'cat food' comes back with 'Shopping', Amazon hits, clickbait sites
>>> 'The Best Cat Food of 2024' and so forth unless you narrow it with 'cat
>>> food wiki'
>>> that at least gets some information on what you feed an obligate
>>> carnivore.
>>
>>
>> Didn't brave have some big controversy?
>
> Not that I recall. It was a little rough in the beginning but is now
> another chromium based browser with excellent ad blocking and privacy.
>
> Any controversy involved Brendan Eich. He was a co-founder, CTO, and CEO
> of Mozilla before being forced out after donating to California
> Proposition 8 which opposed same sex marriage.
>
> He also created JavaScript which some may see as a strike against him.

Understandable, JS is a disaster.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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 by: DFS - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:54 UTC

On 3/28/2024 10:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 03:13 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:40:10 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> Admittedly, the "modern" "metro" Windows Terminal app does look nice.
>>
>> After all these years... I do like the way I can select Kali from the
>> dropdown and have a Linux console at my fingertips or <Ctrl> cmd and get
>> an Administrator concole that spawns new Adminisrtator consoles.
>>
>> Windows Terminal, virtual desktops, you're getting there Windows.
>
>
> 2 steps forward, but the ads still kill it for me. I'm sick of AI
> marketing everywhere.

Besides on just about every webpage, the only place I've seen 3rd party
ads in Windows is in the Solitaire games app.

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 by: DFS - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:54 UTC

On 3/27/2024 11:13 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:40:10 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Admittedly, the "modern" "metro" Windows Terminal app does look nice.
>
> After all these years... I do like the way I can select Kali from the
> dropdown and have a Linux console at my fingertips or <Ctrl> cmd and get
> an Administrator concole that spawns new Adminisrtator consoles.
>
> Windows Terminal, virtual desktops, you're getting there Windows.

Don't forget the various .msc programs:

gpedit.msc
secpol.msc
compmgmt.msc
eventvwr.msc

http://www.auditiait.es/en/list-of-commands-msc/

Many of those config and monitoring tools make mincemeat out of Linux
hobbyware.

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 by: rbowman - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:08 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:54:52 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Don't forget the various .msc programs:
>
> gpedit.msc secpol.msc compmgmt.msc eventvwr.msc

Don't forget services.msc so you can shut down Windows Updater while
trying to fix the system. True you can do 'net stop waupserv' but I can
never remember what the arcane service name is.

eventvwr.msc is such a pleasure to decode what the hell happened when the
machine crashed.

Not a msc but dcomcnfg is good for laughs too. I discovered a fix for the
days when DCOM turns to crap. There is a timeout that defaults to 60
seconds. Change it to 59 seconds and save the configuration. Immediately
change it back to 60, save and all better! I've no idea what corrupted
files are rewritten but I didn't ask questions.

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 by: rbowman - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:11 UTC

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Understandable, JS is a disaster.

In Eich's defense it was only supposed to be a band-aid here and there not
the language to develop both the front and back ends of web sites.
TypeScript helps a little unless you set everything to 'any'.

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From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid (candycanearter07)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: I'm curious about DFS's experiment with DE's
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 by: candycanearter07 - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:40 UTC

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 00:11 this Saturday (GMT):
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>
>> Understandable, JS is a disaster.
>
> In Eich's defense it was only supposed to be a band-aid here and there not
> the language to develop both the front and back ends of web sites.
> TypeScript helps a little unless you set everything to 'any'.

Good ol "bandaid solution never gets fixed"..
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 by: rbowman - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:14 UTC

On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:40:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 00:11 this Saturday (GMT):
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Understandable, JS is a disaster.
>>
>> In Eich's defense it was only supposed to be a band-aid here and there
>> not the language to develop both the front and back ends of web sites.
>> TypeScript helps a little unless you set everything to 'any'.
>
>
> Good ol "bandaid solution never gets fixed"..

otoh, sometimes when you take the bandaid off you get arterial blood
spurting out...

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From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid (candycanearter07)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: I'm curious about DFS's experiment with DE's
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 by: candycanearter07 - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 16:00 UTC

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 05:14 this Saturday (GMT):
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:40:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 00:11 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Understandable, JS is a disaster.
>>>
>>> In Eich's defense it was only supposed to be a band-aid here and there
>>> not the language to develop both the front and back ends of web sites.
>>> TypeScript helps a little unless you set everything to 'any'.
>>
>>
>> Good ol "bandaid solution never gets fixed"..
>
> otoh, sometimes when you take the bandaid off you get arterial blood
> spurting out...

That's from not fixing it for a long time.
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 by: rbowman - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 17:56 UTC

On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 16:00:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 05:14 this Saturday (GMT):
>>>
>>> Good ol "bandaid solution never gets fixed"..
>>
>> otoh, sometimes when you take the bandaid off you get arterial blood
>> spurting out...
>
>
> That's from not fixing it for a long time.

I've been bitten by the old "that's not a bug, it's a feature" a couple of
times. While it was obvious the code wasn't doing what was intended a
client had found the bug, exploited it, and liked what it let them do
although there was a slight chance for problems down the road.

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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 14:50 UTC

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 17:56 this Sunday (GMT):
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 16:00:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 05:14 this Saturday (GMT):
>>>>
>>>> Good ol "bandaid solution never gets fixed"..
>>>
>>> otoh, sometimes when you take the bandaid off you get arterial blood
>>> spurting out...
>>
>>
>> That's from not fixing it for a long time.
>
> I've been bitten by the old "that's not a bug, it's a feature" a couple of
> times. While it was obvious the code wasn't doing what was intended a
> client had found the bug, exploited it, and liked what it let them do
> although there was a slight chance for problems down the road.

Yep..
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