On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > > Dear Don,
> >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> >> > > somebody else had set up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> >> > > each time you write.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> >> >
> >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> >
> > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > that they won't return the favor.
>
> This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
>
> --
> -v

if a relationship breaks up, and one person keeps trying to communicate, and the other doesn't, then the one who doesn't can dance the other person around like a marionette on a string.

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 3:29:05 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> >
> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > >> > > each time you write.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > >> >
> > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > >
> > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > that they won't return the favor.
> >
> > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> >
> > --
> > -v
>
> if a relationship breaks up, and one person keeps trying to communicate, and the other doesn't, then the one who doesn't can dance the other person around like a marionette on a string.

A relationship is like a wine glass : stress it some and it may break in two and can be repaired; stress it too much and it'll break into 1000 pieces and the relationship can never be repaired. Go find yourself someone else..

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > > Dear Don,
> >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> >> > > somebody else had set up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> >> > > each time you write.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> >> >
> >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> >
> > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > that they won't return the favor.
>
> This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
>
> --
> -v

so are you still so protective of your children's identity? You will take note that I didn't want to know anything which could identify any of them , all I wanted to know was like first name ,age , gender stuff that no identity theft could do anything with.

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:44:20 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> >
> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > >> > > each time you write.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > >> >
> > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > >
> > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > that they won't return the favor.
> >
> > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> >
> > --
> > -v
>
> so are you still so protective of your children's identity? You will take note that I didn't want to know anything which could identify any of them , all I wanted to know was like first name ,age , gender stuff that no identity theft could do anything with.

(your choice of many trillions of unique messages here)

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:45:29 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:44:20 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with.. I
> > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > >
> > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > >
> > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > >
> > > --
> > > -v
> >
> > so are you still so protective of your children's identity? You will take note that I didn't want to know anything which could identify any of them , all I wanted to know was like first name ,age , gender stuff that no identity theft could do anything with.
> (your choice of many trillions of unique messages here)

if you can find your passport, do you think you can come visit?

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:00:02 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:45:29 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:44:20 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > >
> > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > >
> > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -v
> > >
> > > so are you still so protective of your children's identity? You will take note that I didn't want to know anything which could identify any of them , all I wanted to know was like first name ,age , gender stuff that no identity theft could do anything with.
> > (your choice of many trillions of unique messages here)
> if you can find your passport, do you think you can come visit?

do you know you are right you might've come over here and then we would probably have decided that we don't like one another.

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:23:36 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:00:02 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:45:29 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:44:20 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > > >
> > > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > -v
> > > >
> > > > so are you still so protective of your children's identity? You will take note that I didn't want to know anything which could identify any of them , all I wanted to know was like first name ,age , gender stuff that no identity theft could do anything with.
> > > (your choice of many trillions of unique messages here)
> > if you can find your passport, do you think you can come visit?
> do you know you are right you might've come over here and then we would probably have decided that we don't like one another.

now come on , fess up , Nic , you're really an FBI agent sitting in an office in Washington DC right?

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:52:18 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:23:36 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:00:02 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:45:29 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:44:20 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish .....so maybe
> > > > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > -v
> > > > >
> > > > > so are you still so protective of your children's identity? You will take note that I didn't want to know anything which could identify any of them , all I wanted to know was like first name ,age , gender stuff that no identity theft could do anything with.
> > > > (your choice of many trillions of unique messages here)
> > > if you can find your passport, do you think you can come visit?
> > do you know you are right you might've come over here and then we would probably have decided that we don't like one another.
> now come on , fess up , Nic , you're really an FBI agent sitting in an office in Washington DC right?

do you think it's possible that you could have two people in a nice conversation going on many years and then one of them sends an email to the other but it's intercepted by higher powers that be , which is completely possible since the email has to pass through other hands before it gets to the recipient and then that higher power could put some text into the email that completely destroys the relationship ? do you think that's possible?

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > > Dear Don,
> >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> >> > > somebody else had set up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> >> > > each time you write.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> >> >
> >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> >
> > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > that they won't return the favor.
>
> This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
>
> --
> -v

when you're using the Internet to communicate with someone, you have no idea who you're talking te 2222TO it could be anyone of 8 billion people except for a few people living along the Congo river who still haven't gotten communication devices so the only thing you can do to be sure of the person that you're talking to would be to set up something like pretty good privacy PGP and I hear that can be done without the two of you having to be at any point in physical proximity but most people don't set up pretty good privacy so when you're using the Internet to talk to someone you should be talking to anyone on earth so you got to be very careful what you say and it's very careful this stifles progress so it's a dilemma maybe there are some people out there who throw caution to the wind and just say any old thing to their conversational opponent in the cause of advancing society. If you read this message, you'll see how extraordinarily complex everything is getting. I just turned on the radio, and instantly you hear about.com and download and browsers it in so everybody now on earth, you know, even a goat raiser in Arab states Hass to be a computer expert, so what it boils down to is everything is getting extremely complex and perhaps we're actually the most advanced civilization in the entire universe but there's one thing about that complexity. Is it a good thing, or a bad thing

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > > Dear Don,
> >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> >> > > somebody else had set up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> >> > > each time you write.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> >> >
> >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> >
> > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > that they won't return the favor.
>
> This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
>
> --
> -v

Did you know that if you strike up a conversation with somebody on the Internet that they could be any one of 8 billion people around the earth minus those that don't have communication? You've got to be very careful with what you say in fact you have to be so careful that well, you're probably better off saying nothing. that's the way humans handle each other nowadays.. they say nothing to one another and it makes for a civilization which is going to die because systems thrive on communication and die due to no communication so I experience that in my personal life I strike up a little bit of a friendship with someone and then there's the smallest little bit of tension and they block me but that's OK because it gives me more time to do other things doesn't all this seem extremely complex to you? Is complexity a good thing, or a bad thing?

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > > Dear Don,
> >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> >> > > somebody else had set up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> >> > > each time you write.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> >> >
> >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> >
> > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > that they won't return the favor.
>
> This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
>
> --
> -v

A relationship is like a delicate wine glass ; if you drop it and it breaks into 1000 pieces there's no repairing it. Your only option is to go buy another wine glass.

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:37:57 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> >
> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > >> > > each time you write.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > >> >
> > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > >
> > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > that they won't return the favor.
> >
> > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> >
> > --
> > -v
>
> A relationship is like a delicate wine glass ; if you drop it and it breaks into 1000 pieces there's no repairing it. Your only option is to go buy another wine glass.

I told you that you probably have the only large collection of handwritten notes from me, but you know what , I just realized something. Actually, I have the largest collection of handwritten notes from me because I've hand written notes on all kind of different stuff and saved them, not that anybody would care.

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > > Dear Don,
> >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> >> > > somebody else had set up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> >> > > each time you write.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> >> >
> >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> >
> > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > that they won't return the favor.
>
> This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
>
> --
> -v

did you ever do anything about that imposter?

Isn't it amazing how much you get to know about someone in 17 years?

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> >> > > > Dear Don,
> >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> >> > > somebody else had set up.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> >> > > each time you write.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> >> >
> >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> >
> > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > that they won't return the favor.
>
> This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
>
> --
> -v pop

Woof, woof.

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> >
> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > >> > > each time you write.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > >> >
> > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > >
> > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > that they won't return the favor.
> >
> > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> >
> > --
> > -v pop
>
> Woof, woof.
Dear Don,
I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
A message in the post.

Nicki

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with.. I
> > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > >
> > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > >
> > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > >
> > > --
> > > -v pop
> >
> > Woof, woof.
> Dear Don,
> I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> A message in the post.
>
> Nicki

It looks like you're wanting to correspond again . chaos and complexity, and Cybernetics are basically so complex and confusing, I don't really even know the answer to your question . and yes I've called conversational partners opponents , since you request that I stop I will. it's nice to hear from you. Hope you write again.

On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 12:26:56 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > >
> > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > >
> > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -v pop
> > >
> > > Woof, woof.
> > Dear Don,
> > I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> > A message in the post.
> >
> > Nicki
> It looks like you're wanting to correspond again . chaos and complexity, and Cybernetics are basically so complex and confusing, I don't really even know the answer to your question . and yes I've called conversational partners opponents , since you request that I stop I will. it's nice to hear from you. Hope you write again.

so you'll be writing again soon? Usually when there's a lot of animosity between two people like we've had it's impossible to get a conversation going again.

also, I've run out of notebook paper, so I can't send you any more handwritten letters.

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with.. I
> > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > >
> > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > >
> > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > >
> > > --
> > > -v pop
> >
> > Woof, woof.
> Dear Don,
> I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> A message in the post.
>
> Nicki

if you ever want to start up the conversation again, instead of playing these games, just let me know

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with.. I
> > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > >
> > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > >
> > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > >
> > > --
> > > -v pop
> >
> > Woof, woof.
> Dear Don,
> I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> A message in the post.
>
> Nicki

Nicki, just a suggestion that if you do wanna correspondence, go ahead and reply to my messages fairly quickly , if you don't reply to them fairly quickly, it makes it look like you're just never gonna answer again and we're back into that whole thing

don't let me tell you what to do because I really hate people telling me what to do.

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:50 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > >
> > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > >
> > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -v pop
> > >
> > > Woof, woof.
> > Dear Don,
> > I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> > A message in the post.
> >
> > Nicki
> Nicki, just a suggestion that if you do wanna correspondence, go ahead and reply to my messages fairly quickly , if you don't reply to them fairly quickly, it makes it look like you're just never gonna answer again and we're back into that whole thing
>
> don't let me tell you what to do because I really hate people telling me what to do.

if you answer me right away, that I know, you're not playing this game of never answering me ever again, and hurting my feelings.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:09:41 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:50 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > > >
> > > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > -v pop
> > > >
> > > > Woof, woof.
> > > Dear Don,
> > > I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> > > A message in the post.
> > >
> > > Nicki
> > Nicki, just a suggestion that if you do wanna correspondence, go ahead and reply to my messages fairly quickly , if you don't reply to them fairly quickly, it makes it look like you're just never gonna answer again and we're back into that whole thing
> >
> > don't let me tell you what to do because I really hate people telling me what to do.
> if you answer me right away, that I know, you're not playing this game of never answering me ever again, and hurting my feelings.

Who am I to demand when you answer or not
you just take your time I'll be waiting.
I'll be waiting for your next message.
Whether that be a day , a week , a month , a year , 40 years I'll be here for you.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:32:46 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:09:41 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:50 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish .....so maybe
> > > > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > -v pop
> > > > >
> > > > > Woof, woof.
> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> > > > A message in the post.
> > > >
> > > > Nicki
> > > Nicki, just a suggestion that if you do wanna correspondence, go ahead and reply to my messages fairly quickly , if you don't reply to them fairly quickly, it makes it look like you're just never gonna answer again and we're back into that whole thing
> > >
> > > don't let me tell you what to do because I really hate people telling me what to do.
> > if you answer me right away, that I know, you're not playing this game of never answering me ever again, and hurting my feelings.
> Who am I to demand when you answer or not
> you just take your time I'll be waiting.
> I'll be waiting for your next message.
> Whether that be a day , a week , a month , a year , 40 years I'll be here for you.
since you have written such kindly words I have emailed you a link to my blogger, there is quite a lot on there that explains why I'm so often distracted, you're welcome to reply X

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:53:06 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:32:46 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:09:41 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:50 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish .....so maybe
> > > > > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > -v pop
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Woof, woof.
> > > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> > > > > A message in the post.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nicki
> > > > Nicki, just a suggestion that if you do wanna correspondence, go ahead and reply to my messages fairly quickly , if you don't reply to them fairly quickly, it makes it look like you're just never gonna answer again and we're back into that whole thing
> > > >
> > > > don't let me tell you what to do because I really hate people telling me what to do.
> > > if you answer me right away, that I know, you're not playing this game of never answering me ever again, and hurting my feelings.
> > Who am I to demand when you answer or not
> > you just take your time I'll be waiting.
> > I'll be waiting for your next message.
> > Whether that be a day , a week , a month , a year , 40 years I'll be here for you.
> since you have written such kindly words I have emailed you a link to my blogger, there is quite a lot on there that explains why I'm so often distracted, you're welcome to reply X

that sounds great. Your link to your blog hasn't arrived yet, but I'll be looking forward. Perhaps a blog would bring me down to normal and quit making me send you all kind of mean and nasty stuff. Thank you.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:37:56 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:53:06 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:32:46 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:09:41 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:50 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat. I'm doing ok
> > > > > > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > > > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > > > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > > > > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > > > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > > > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > > > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > > > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > > > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > > > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > > > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > > > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > > > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > > > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > > > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > > > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > > > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > > > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > > > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > -v pop
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Woof, woof.
> > > > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > > I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> > > > > > A message in the post.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nicki
> > > > > Nicki, just a suggestion that if you do wanna correspondence, go ahead and reply to my messages fairly quickly , if you don't reply to them fairly quickly, it makes it look like you're just never gonna answer again and we're back into that whole thing
> > > > >
> > > > > don't let me tell you what to do because I really hate people telling me what to do.
> > > > if you answer me right away, that I know, you're not playing this game of never answering me ever again, and hurting my feelings.
> > > Who am I to demand when you answer or not
> > > you just take your time I'll be waiting.
> > > I'll be waiting for your next message.
> > > Whether that be a day , a week , a month , a year , 40 years I'll be here for you.
> > since you have written such kindly words I have emailed you a link to my blogger, there is quite a lot on there that explains why I'm so often distracted, you're welcome to reply X
> that sounds great. Your link to your blog hasn't arrived yet, but I'll be looking forward. Perhaps a blog would bring me down to normal and quit making me send you all kind of mean and nasty stuff. Thank you.

i'm still waiting for that link to your blog. I'm so excited. Thank you.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:00:33 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:37:56 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:53:06 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:32:46 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:09:41 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:13:50 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:16 PM UTC-5, vallor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > > > > <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > <2594475e-f3a7-4d62...@googlegroups.com>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:43:59 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:43:11 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer
> > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:34:34 PM UTC-5, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > > > > >> > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:24:05 PM UTC+1, Nicki Hatfield
> > > > > > > > > >> > > Elson makethings wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Comp ai philosophy is possibly the wrong to chat.. I'm doing ok
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > tho I haven't begun your portrait yet, something I would NOT have
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > considered payment for. I'm afraid you're going to have to wait
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > until I'm in the mood, I have to move again soonish ....so maybe
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > snail-mail suits best , huh !
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > DO NOT rag the posters too much they have intelligent things to
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > write for, like giving very impressive CV's, I've posted on
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Google Groups for nearly 20 years so I'm used to some writers,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > lots who are or were students & now moved on.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > I agree that emails can be hacked & plausibly be tampered with. I
> > > > > > > > > >> > > was looking for your email & found you as 'Adonis Stockbauer', I
> > > > > > > > > >> > > have no idea if you were being kinky or it was an alt account
> > > > > > > > > >> > > somebody else had set up.
> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > I'm very quiet generally, so I'm sorry if I haven't had very much
> > > > > > > > > >> > > to say....nothing much has happened since I last wrote, or maybe
> > > > > > > > > >> > > you reply so fast, I'm stumped so have a little less to tell you
> > > > > > > > > >> > > each time you write.
> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > Yes I agree, global warming is having a massively detrimental
> > > > > > > > > >> > > affect on nature and our world around
> > > > > > > > > >> > Adonis is my third cousin twice removed.
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > If I'm writing too fast, I can adhere now on to Hofstadter's
> > > > > > > > > >> > tit-for-tat rule, which slows things down and it also ensures if one
> > > > > > > > > >> > person quits the other person quits also.
> > > > > > > > > >> I promise I'll quit posting out of turn.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > My problem is that I get really worried that if I send someone a note
> > > > > > > > > > that they won't return the favor.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This sounds like a job for soc.penpals , Don:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/soc.penpals
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > -v pop
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Woof, woof.
> > > > > > > Dear Don,
> > > > > > > I don't know much about complexity, is that like chaos theory ?, but I did listen to the old folks in our family \when asked why they got bald, their answer was " grass never grows where its busy!", such is life, you may try too hard to cultivate a patch you really really wanted to cultivate ! and end up with nothing, you may stop calling a recipient an opponent, that really bugs me.
> > > > > > > A message in the post.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nicki
> > > > > > Nicki, just a suggestion that if you do wanna correspondence, go ahead and reply to my messages fairly quickly , if you don't reply to them fairly quickly, it makes it look like you're just never gonna answer again and we're back into that whole thing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > don't let me tell you what to do because I really hate people telling me what to do.
> > > > > if you answer me right away, that I know, you're not playing this game of never answering me ever again, and hurting my feelings.
> > > > Who am I to demand when you answer or not
> > > > you just take your time I'll be waiting.
> > > > I'll be waiting for your next message.
> > > > Whether that be a day , a week , a month , a year , 40 years I'll be here for you.
> > > since you have written such kindly words I have emailed you a link to my blogger, there is quite a lot on there that explains why I'm so often distracted, you're welcome to reply X
> > that sounds great. Your link to your blog hasn't arrived yet, but I'll be looking forward. Perhaps a blog would bring me down to normal and quit making me send you all kind of mean and nasty stuff. Thank you.
> i'm still waiting for that link to your blog. I'm so excited. Thank you.

oh I see here where you said you've already emailed the link to your blog !!!! but I haven't received it yet. Do you know that shows that these computers can mess up?