All the fucking worthless doomsayers in the on-line press have a habit
of claiming that X Window is dead.

But my Gentoo emerge for this week saw that following X updates:

libXdmcp
libxcb
xlsfonts
xrefresh
libXcursor
xev
xauth
xpr
libXaw3d
x11-apps/editres
xfontsel
xmessage

Whoa! That's a lot of fucking updates!

X Window is very much alive and kicking.

I will soon be exploring Wayland but X Window will be my main GUI
for a LONG time.

Diego Garcia wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> All the fucking worthless doomsayers in the on-line press have a habit
> of claiming that X Window is dead.
>
> But my Gentoo emerge for this week saw that following X updates:
>
> libXdmcp
> libxcb
> xlsfonts
> xrefresh
> libXcursor
> xev
> xauth
> xpr
> libXaw3d
> x11-apps/editres
> xfontsel
> xmessage
>
> Whoa! That's a lot of fucking updates!
>
> X Window is very much alive and kicking.
>
> I will soon be exploring Wayland but X Window will be my main GUI
> for a LONG time.

Can't you maroon yourself on Diego Garcia and just STFU?

--
Learn to pause -- or nothing worthwhile can catch up to you.

On 3/9/2024 2:22 PM, Liability Larry wrote:

> my Gentoo emerge for this week

Python rescues the Gentoo tinkerer again!

The Python Software Foundation is due a serious donation for saving you
untold hours administering your GuhNoo crapbox.

On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:55:50 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 3/9/2024 2:22 PM, Liability Larry wrote:
>
>> my Gentoo emerge for this week
>
>
> Python rescues the Gentoo tinkerer again!
>
> The Python Software Foundation is due a serious donation for saving you
> untold hours administering your GuhNoo crapbox.

https://bedrocklinux.org/

He should switch to Bedrock Linux.

"Bedrock Linux is a meta Linux distribution which allows users to mix-and-
match components from other, typically incompatible distributions. Bedrock
integrates these components into one largely cohesive system."

Endless hours of tinkering! The potential for endless FUBARs!

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:55:50 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 3/9/2024 2:22 PM, Liability Larry wrote:
>>
>>> my Gentoo emerge for this week
>>
>>
>> Python rescues the Gentoo tinkerer again!
>>
>> The Python Software Foundation is due a serious donation for saving you
>> untold hours administering your GuhNoo crapbox.
>
> https://bedrocklinux.org/
>
> He should switch to Bedrock Linux.
>
> "Bedrock Linux is a meta Linux distribution which allows users to mix-and-
> match components from other, typically incompatible distributions. Bedrock
> integrates these components into one largely cohesive system."
>
> Endless hours of tinkering! The potential for endless FUBARs!

But will it serve up a Bronto burger?

Heh heh:

--
You will never know hunger.

Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote at 19:22 this Saturday (GMT):
> All the fucking worthless doomsayers in the on-line press have a habit
> of claiming that X Window is dead.
>
> But my Gentoo emerge for this week saw that following X updates:
>
> libXdmcp
> libxcb
> xlsfonts
> xrefresh
> libXcursor
> xev
> xauth
> xpr
> libXaw3d
> x11-apps/editres
> xfontsel
> xmessage
>
> Whoa! That's a lot of fucking updates!
>
> X Window is very much alive and kicking.
>
> I will soon be exploring Wayland but X Window will be my main GUI
> for a LONG time.

I prefer X too.
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote in
<usl0ia$348lm$1@dont-email.me>:

> Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote at 19:22 this Saturday (GMT):
>> All the fucking worthless doomsayers in the on-line press have a habit
>> of claiming that X Window is dead.
>>
>> But my Gentoo emerge for this week saw that following X updates:
>>
>> libXdmcp
>> libxcb
>> xlsfonts
>> xrefresh
>> libXcursor
>> xev
>> xauth
>> xpr
>> libXaw3d
>> x11-apps/editres
>> xfontsel
>> xmessage
>>
>> Whoa! That's a lot of fucking updates!
>>
>> X Window is very much alive and kicking.
>>
>> I will soon be exploring Wayland but X Window will be my main GUI
>> for a LONG time.
>
> I prefer X too.

Same here, though the games I run use DXVK to talk to the Vulkan
API on NVidia's Linux driver. (I think X is only minimally-involved
there.)

BTW: It's not "X Window" it's "the X Window System", or just "X".

Sometimes, people call it "X Windows", but I've never
seen "X Window" unless discussing an actual window on X.

--
-v

On 3/10/2024 3:26 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote in
> <usl0ia$348lm$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote at 19:22 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> All the fucking worthless doomsayers in the on-line press have a habit
>>> of claiming that X Window is dead.
>>>
>>> But my Gentoo emerge for this week saw that following X updates:
>>>
>>> libXdmcp
>>> libxcb
>>> xlsfonts
>>> xrefresh
>>> libXcursor
>>> xev
>>> xauth
>>> xpr
>>> libXaw3d
>>> x11-apps/editres
>>> xfontsel
>>> xmessage
>>>
>>> Whoa! That's a lot of fucking updates!
>>>
>>> X Window is very much alive and kicking.
>>>
>>> I will soon be exploring Wayland but X Window will be my main GUI
>>> for a LONG time.
>>
>> I prefer X too.
>
> Same here, though the games I run use DXVK to talk to the Vulkan
> API on NVidia's Linux driver. (I think X is only minimally-involved
> there.)
>
> BTW: It's not "X Window" it's "the X Window System", or just "X".
>
> Sometimes, people call it "X Windows", but I've never
> seen "X Window" unless discussing an actual window on X.

Another off-charter post.

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:44:34 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<usl2j1$34lr8$2@dont-email.me>:

> On 3/10/2024 3:26 PM, vallor wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote in
>> <usl0ia$348lm$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote at 19:22 this Saturday (GMT):
>>>> All the fucking worthless doomsayers in the on-line press have a habit
>>>> of claiming that X Window is dead.
>>>>
>>>> But my Gentoo emerge for this week saw that following X updates:
>>>>
>>>> libXdmcp
>>>> libxcb
>>>> xlsfonts
>>>> xrefresh
>>>> libXcursor
>>>> xev
>>>> xauth
>>>> xpr
>>>> libXaw3d
>>>> x11-apps/editres
>>>> xfontsel
>>>> xmessage
>>>>
>>>> Whoa! That's a lot of fucking updates!
>>>>
>>>> X Window is very much alive and kicking.
>>>>
>>>> I will soon be exploring Wayland but X Window will be my main GUI
>>>> for a LONG time.
>>>
>>> I prefer X too.
>>
>> Same here, though the games I run use DXVK to talk to the Vulkan
>> API on NVidia's Linux driver. (I think X is only minimally-involved
>> there.)
>>
>> BTW: It's not "X Window" it's "the X Window System", or just "X".
>>
>> Sometimes, people call it "X Windows", but I've never
>> seen "X Window" unless discussing an actual window on X.
>
>
> Another off-charter post.

Fine:

To put a finer point on it for those with
a Windows burr up their butt, there's a definite
advantage to running DXVK on Linux vs.
DX-whatever-Windows-is-shoveling-at-you.

--
-v

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 10:02:57 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:55:50 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/9/2024 2:22 PM, Liability Larry wrote:
>>>
>>>> my Gentoo emerge for this week
>>>
>>>
>>> Python rescues the Gentoo tinkerer again!
>>>
>>> The Python Software Foundation is due a serious donation for saving
>>> you untold hours administering your GuhNoo crapbox.
>>
>> https://bedrocklinux.org/
>>
>> He should switch to Bedrock Linux.
>>
>> "Bedrock Linux is a meta Linux distribution which allows users to
>> mix-and-
>> match components from other, typically incompatible distributions.
>> Bedrock integrates these components into one largely cohesive system."
>>
>> Endless hours of tinkering! The potential for endless FUBARs!
>
> But will it serve up a Bronto burger?

Bronto turd is more like it. During one of Gnome's stranger evolutions I
installed KDE to get back to normalcy. It worked but the result was
quirky and a bit fragile. I can't see a mix and match working out well.

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:26:53 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

> Sometimes, people call it "X Windows", but I've never seen "X Window"
> unless discussing an actual window on X.

amazon.com/Programming-Manual-Version-Definitive-Guides/dp/0937175277

I have the feeling I could find a reference to 'X Window' someplace in the
7 volumes. (8 volumes in truth since Motif is divided into 6a and 6b and
counting starts at 0).

https://www.thriftbooks.com/series/the-definitive-guides-to-the-x-window-
system/80847/

I've never seen 7 since I worked in Motif, not XView.

The joy of Motif is sooner or later you'll be directly calling Xlib and Xt
functions. That is one of Wayland's drawbacks or design philosophy
depending on how you want to look at it.

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:03:11 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

> To put a finer point on it for those with a Windows burr up their butt,
> there's a definite advantage to running DXVK on Linux vs.
> DX-whatever-Windows-is-shoveling-at-you.

Is there any advantage to running DXVK on Linux unless you're trying to
use games developed for Windows?

On 10 Mar 2024 23:48:12 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
<l56v5sFjcngU2@mid.individual.net>:

> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:03:11 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>
>> To put a finer point on it for those with a Windows burr up their butt,
>> there's a definite advantage to running DXVK on Linux vs.
>> DX-whatever-Windows-is-shoveling-at-you.
>
> Is there any advantage to running DXVK on Linux unless you're trying to
> use games developed for Windows?

Only if you want to program for DirectX on Linux, I guess.

(Better to just use Vulkan directly, I would imagine...)

--
-v

vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> BTW: It's not "X Window" it's "the X Window System", or just "X".

I say fsck you to Elon Musk.

> Sometimes, people call it "X Windows", but I've never
> seen "X Window" unless discussing an actual window on X.

They discuss sensible topics on X? :-)

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vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:44:34 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>
>> Another off-charter post.

Jeezuzz, will you shut up man?

> Fine:
>
> To put a finer point on it for those with a Windows burr up their butt,
> there's a definite advantage to running DXVK on Linux vs.
> DX-whatever-Windows-is-shoveling-at-you.

--
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On 3/11/2024 7:52 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> BTW: It's not "X Window" it's "the X Window System", or just "X".
>
> I say fsck you to Elon Musk.

You're so tough sailor!

On 3/11/2024 7:53 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:44:34 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>
>>> Another off-charter post.
>
> Jeezuzz, will you shut up man?

That was sarcasm, in response to Bloaty's netnannying.

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 19:26 this Sunday (GMT):
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote in
><usl0ia$348lm$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote at 19:22 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> All the fucking worthless doomsayers in the on-line press have a habit
>>> of claiming that X Window is dead.
>>>
>>> But my Gentoo emerge for this week saw that following X updates:
>>>
>>> libXdmcp
>>> libxcb
>>> xlsfonts
>>> xrefresh
>>> libXcursor
>>> xev
>>> xauth
>>> xpr
>>> libXaw3d
>>> x11-apps/editres
>>> xfontsel
>>> xmessage
>>>
>>> Whoa! That's a lot of fucking updates!
>>>
>>> X Window is very much alive and kicking.
>>>
>>> I will soon be exploring Wayland but X Window will be my main GUI
>>> for a LONG time.
>>
>> I prefer X too.
>
> Same here, though the games I run use DXVK to talk to the Vulkan
> API on NVidia's Linux driver. (I think X is only minimally-involved
> there.)
>
> BTW: It's not "X Window" it's "the X Window System", or just "X".
>
> Sometimes, people call it "X Windows", but I've never
> seen "X Window" unless discussing an actual window on X.

Thanks for the clarification!
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>
>>> Another off-charter post.
>
> Jeezuzz, will you shut up man?

You ask that like the dumb fsck doesn't have a decades-old reputation
as an obnoxious, lying POS.

--
"In practice, though, Linux users are just as controlled by the distro
makers and FOSS app developers as commercial users are by Microsoft
and closed-source app developers." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly

On 3/11/2024 2:16 PM, shitv wrote:

> -- "In practice, though, Linux users are just as controlled by the
> distro makers and FOSS app developers as commercial users are by
> Microsoft and closed-source app developers." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly

No doubt about that whatsoever.

For instance, you've not once hacked the source to make any significant
feature or GUI changes to your Linux apps or desktops.

In theory, you could tinker with the code and screens to your heart's
content (since you have the source).

In practice, you don't have the skill. Very very very few do.

Got it, bozo?

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 3/11/2024 2:16 PM, shitv wrote:
>
>> -- "In practice, though, Linux users are just as controlled by the
>> distro makers and FOSS app developers as commercial users are by
>> Microsoft and closed-source app developers." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
>
>No doubt about that whatsoever.
>
>For instance, you've not once hacked the source to make any significant
>feature or GUI changes to your Linux apps or desktops.
>
>In theory, you could tinker with the code and screens to your heart's
>content (since you have the source).
>
>In practice, you don't have the skill. Very very very few do.
>
>Got it, bozo?

I don't care about commercial vs. FOSS when it comes to the
philosophy, like would I run X, Y and Z, I'll run anything I want to
run. But there is something great about open source that you're
missing by making such a direct comparison to Winblows software, which
is that you have more choice in how it's specifically implemented for
you. Your Linux distro or any number of people can make it that way.
I'm pretty satisfied with Mint, I'm easy to please, but someone who
wants customization could really do things that are less accessible
with Winblows.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:16:55 -0500, chrisv wrote:

>>
>> Jeezuzz, will you shut up man?
>
> You ask that like the dumb fsck doesn't have a decades-old reputation
> as an obnoxious, lying POS.
>

Decades old?

Holy shiite! I always knew that the DuFuS was a sexually impotent dud
but to think that he has not experienced a sexual orgasm in DECADES makes
him even more of a TOTAL DEGENERATE.

Of course, that explains why he is Stallman's groupie.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Aside: The fact that his wife is a loathsome dog is NOT an excuse.

Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>On 3/11/2024 2:16 PM, shitv wrote:
>>
>>> -- "In practice, though, Linux users are just as controlled by the
>>> distro makers and FOSS app developers as commercial users are by
>>> Microsoft and closed-source app developers." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
>>
>>No doubt about that whatsoever.
>>
>>For instance, you've not once hacked the source to make any significant
>>feature or GUI changes to your Linux apps or desktops.
>>
>>In theory, you could tinker with the code and screens to your heart's
>>content (since you have the source).
>>
>>In practice, you don't have the skill. Very very very few do.
>>
>>Got it, bozo?

Say Boze, you don't seem to realize that skilled people make those changes
*on* *behalf* of the users. And they are not inhibited by commercial
considerations, but by what works weil, improves the code, and satisfies their
wants and almost always the wants of their "customers".

> I don't care about commercial vs. FOSS when it comes to the
> philosophy, like would I run X, Y and Z, I'll run anything I want to
> run. But there is something great about open source that you're
> missing by making such a direct comparison to Winblows software, which
> is that you have more choice in how it's specifically implemented for
> you. Your Linux distro or any number of people can make it that way.
> I'm pretty satisfied with Mint, I'm easy to please, but someone who
> wants customization could really do things that are less accessible
> with Winblows.

Or ask a developer to do it for them.

Perfect? No. Even OSS developers can be assholes.

--
You'll be called to a post requiring ability in handling groups of people.

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Joel wrote:
>>
>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>
>>>> -- "In practice, though, Linux users are just as controlled by the
>>>> distro makers and FOSS app developers as commercial users are by
>>>> Microsoft and closed-source app developers." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
>>>
>>> (idiocy and lies, snipped)
>
>Say Boze, you don't seem to realize that skilled people make those changes
>*on* *behalf* of the users. And they are not inhibited by commercial
>considerations, but by what works weil, improves the code, and satisfies their
>wants and almost always the wants of their "customers".

DumFSck screaming "night" at high noon, again. What a loser. FOSS
gives people the freedom, even if they depend upon experts.

The proof is in the pudding. Look around.

>> But there is something great about open source that you're
>> missing by making such a direct comparison to Winblows software, which
>> is that you have more choice in how it's specifically implemented for
>> you. Your Linux distro or any number of people can make it that way.
>
>Or ask a developer to do it for them.

Or, if it's major project worthy of significant efforts, form a team
or company. Programmers can be hired. Projects can be branched.

Are we going to pretend that this doesn't happen, in the FOSS world?

--
'The results [http://tinyurl.com/DumFSck] from last year prove, once
again, that "choice!" isn't nearly as important to Linux users as
[chrisv] and RonG and others claim it is.' - DumFSck, lying
shamelessly

On 3/11/2024 3:50 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:16:55 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Jeezuzz, will you shut up man?
>>
>> You ask that like the dumb fsck doesn't have a decades-old reputation
>> as an obnoxious, lying POS.
>>
>
> Decades old?
>
> Holy shiite! I always knew that the DuFuS was a sexually impotent dud
> but to think that he has not experienced a sexual orgasm in DECADES makes
> him even more of a TOTAL DEGENERATE.
>
> Of course, that explains why he is Stallman's groupie.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> Aside: The fact that his wife is a loathsome dog is NOT an excuse.
>

His wife might have a dick bigger than mine :-)

I'm 80% sure DFS's brain is a woman's brain. Unless he's some sort of
artist.

Artists (musicians, etc) use their brains differently from ordinary
mortals. That's how they turn out artists. And for them, woman or man
attributes are meaningless, cause such groupings really don't apply to
them. It would be like trying to apply or discuss differences of
viscosity in the engine oil, as means of comparing a Toyota and a
Ferrari. A Toyota with the engine oil that's in a Ferrari, doesn't
become a Ferrari, and vice versa. The difference between artists and
ordinary mortals is way beyond what they do in something as unremarkable
and mundane as sex.

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