Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:27:05 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On a related note: what's the oldest media (tape, floppy, cd-rom,
> cartridge) you still have for a game?

I think I have a Commodore 64 game cartridge or two in a box
somewhere. Next oldest is probably some CD-ROM or if not, I bought the
useless DVD for Dishonored. Or come to think of it, I should have some
PS2 and Xbox 360 games around somewhere too so those are probably older
than 2012's Dishonored but same media, DVD.

On 4/9/2024 4:33 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 09:23:30 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/8/2024 11:09 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:27:05 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> On a related note: what's the oldest media (tape, floppy, cd-rom,
>>> cartridge) you still have for a game?
>
>> The oldest PC game I have physical media off would be Battletech: The
>> Crescent Hawk's Revenge from 1990. I once bought this in a grab box in
>> the shop, and I think someone had already played it and returned it
>> later, as it gave my computer it's first virus.
>
> You weren't missing anything. "Revenge" wasn't a very fun game, from
> what I recall. Its combat was slow and tedious, but also lacked the
> depth and versatility of the tabletop game. And its story wasn't very
> engaging. It was one of Westwood Games (of "Eye of the Beholder" and
> "Command & Conquer" fame) earliest titles though, and one of the last
> games to sport the Infocom branding.
>
> I've had similar experiences from that era of returned PC games being
> sold 'as new' (although without the 'fun' of paying for a virus ;-).
> Too many store owners were extremely confrontational when called on
> it, too.
>
>

This one I found way later. I remember I was choosing between Daggerfall
and this one, and chose the Battletech game because they wanted full
price for Daggerfall years after it came out.
But well, I think they just found some stuff when cleaning their storage
and decided to put it all out.
It wasn't like this was even a proper computer store, this was a
department store with a small computer section. Which, come to think of
it, didn't actually survive until today.

On 4/9/2024 3:07 PM, Mike S. wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 17:09:57 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
> <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:27:05 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On a related note: what's the oldest media (tape, floppy, cd-rom,
>> cartridge) you still have for a game?
>
> Quick glance....
>
> I think the oldest for me on the PC at least is tied between Wizardry
> 1 and Might & Magic 1 - Copyright 1987 - 5 1/4 Floppies.
>
> But the oldest I can quickly tell is Questron on the C-64, 5 1/4
> Floppies, Copyright 1983
>
> But I have a lot more C-64 games stored away in bins in my garage,
> including many Infocom titles. They are probably even older.

I have to admit I never properly used 5 1/4 floppies. I was a child of
the 3.5 era. We had one or two 5 1/4 floppies floating around the house,
we just never had a drive to even use them.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:12:51 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

>I have to admit I never properly used 5 1/4 floppies. I was a child of
>the 3.5 era. We had one or two 5 1/4 floppies floating around the house,
>we just never had a drive to even use them.

I am old enough that I started with a tape drive.

Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 12:50 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:12:51 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I have to admit I never properly used 5 1/4 floppies. I was a child of
>>the 3.5 era. We had one or two 5 1/4 floppies floating around the house,
>>we just never had a drive to even use them.
>
> I am old enough that I started with a tape drive.

Wow, that is old.
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On 4/10/2024 7:30 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 12:50 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:12:51 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have to admit I never properly used 5 1/4 floppies. I was a child of
>>> the 3.5 era. We had one or two 5 1/4 floppies floating around the house,
>>> we just never had a drive to even use them.
>>
>> I am old enough that I started with a tape drive.
>
>
> Wow, that is old.

I went from the final year the college did punch cards to 8" floppy.

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On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 15:20:12 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:24 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 22:30:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

>>>If single-game handhelds count, I think I have some Tiger
>>>Electronics-esque ones somewhere. Otherwise, probably one of my NDS
>>>cartridges..

>> Ooh, I hadn't considered those.

>> I'm not sure it's older than my "Hitchhiker's Guide" disk, but it's
>> ofthe same era: I have an Nintendo "Game & Watch" with an LCD screen
>> where Mickey Mouse tries to catch eggs (a gift from a well-meaning
>> relative).

>Sounds cool!! I also forgot I used to have a leapfrog.

It absolutely wasn't. It was a game-of-last-resort, only played
because I didn't have any other portable electronic game. It wasn't
just that the gameplay was tedious - you had to move your character
into one of four positions, mapped to one of the four keys - it was
repetitive as well, with recognizable patterns. Its only challenge was
that it kept going faster and faster.

But it was pocket-sized, quick to start, and had amazing battery life.
Also it was the only portable I had. So it got played. Just never
really enjoyed.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:11:23 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>This one I found way later. I remember I was choosing between Daggerfall
>and this one, and chose the Battletech game because they wanted full
>price for Daggerfall years after it came out.
>But well, I think they just found some stuff when cleaning their storage
>and decided to put it all out.
>It wasn't like this was even a proper computer store, this was a
>department store with a small computer section. Which, come to think of
>it, didn't actually survive until today.

Ah, the joys of raiding a clearance sale to pick up all the old games
you missed out the first time.

(And the inevitable befuddlement when you see - as with your
"Daggerfall" example - that they're weirdly still charging full price
for a few of those ancient titles)

Honestly, given the choice of "Crescent Hawk's Revenge" and
"Daggerfall" - and despite everything I said about "Revenge" earlier -
you made the better choice. "Revenge" wasn't a fun game, but the
developers had a vision of what they wanted the game to be, and I
think they achieved it. "Daggerfall" was just a mess of unrealized
potential and bad design, held together with buggy code.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:54 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 15:20:12 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:24 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 22:30:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>>><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>
>>>>If single-game handhelds count, I think I have some Tiger
>>>>Electronics-esque ones somewhere. Otherwise, probably one of my NDS
>>>>cartridges..
>
>>> Ooh, I hadn't considered those.
>
>>> I'm not sure it's older than my "Hitchhiker's Guide" disk, but it's
>>> ofthe same era: I have an Nintendo "Game & Watch" with an LCD screen
>>> where Mickey Mouse tries to catch eggs (a gift from a well-meaning
>>> relative).
>
>
>
>>Sounds cool!! I also forgot I used to have a leapfrog.
>
> It absolutely wasn't. It was a game-of-last-resort, only played
> because I didn't have any other portable electronic game. It wasn't
> just that the gameplay was tedious - you had to move your character
> into one of four positions, mapped to one of the four keys - it was
> repetitive as well, with recognizable patterns. Its only challenge was
> that it kept going faster and faster.
>
> But it was pocket-sized, quick to start, and had amazing battery life.
> Also it was the only portable I had. So it got played. Just never
> really enjoyed.
>

Fair. I didn't know what a good game was for a few years, so I had a
ton of shovelware DS games.
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>So where do we draw the line between "oh man, that game is old!",
>meaning it is visually or mechanically distinct from 'modern' games?
>Obviously this is a very subjective and there will always be
>exceptions to the rule, but how far back before you consider a game
>'old' and notably different from a modern title?

I'm not sure I draw that line anymore. To me any game that is more
than a year old isn't new, but that doesn't make it old in my mind.
There's maybe a boundary of roughly 15 to 20 years ago where I'd have
trouble recommending a game to most people because the 3D graphics look
particularily bad by modern standards. Even with 2D games, many people
will have a problem with them because they usually only support a 4:3
aspect ratio and a limitted set of resolutions.

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On Sun, 07 Apr 2024 12:40:06 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

>Where would you put this division between 'new' and old? Do you find
>PS3/XBox360/2010 PC games still eminently playable? Do you draw the
>line at anything older than 10th generation? Do you turn your nose up
>at anything not released this year? Where does 'old' begin for you?

TBS, anything before SM 3.0, DX 9.0c. That is OLD.

I'd have to think about anything beyond that. Maybe the cutoff is
pre-DX10 or 11? It's definitely about the underlying tech for me.

Also anything that plays in 800x600 or 1024x768 (and does anyone remember
1280x1024?) as a base res, or starts you up in 640x480 and gives you the
option to increase to the 4:3 res of your choice.

If the game is actually even aware of 1280x1024, 5:4, it is OLD.

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On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 17:09:57 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

>On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:27:05 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>On a related note: what's the oldest media (tape, floppy, cd-rom,
>cartridge) you still have for a game?
>
Sega Genesis cartridges. They're in the basement with a v1.0 Sega
Genesis. c 1991.

I have IMGs of some of my old 3.5" PC floppies, but they're all post
1991.

I may have some C=64 5.25" around here somewhere, but I doubt it's still
readable. If I could find that, that would be the oldest.

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On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:04:25 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Zaghadka wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 17:09:57 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:27:05 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>On a related note: what's the oldest media (tape, floppy, cd-rom,
>>cartridge) you still have for a game?
>>
>Sega Genesis cartridges. They're in the basement with a v1.0 Sega
>Genesis. c 1991.
>
>I have IMGs of some of my old 3.5" PC floppies, but they're all post
>1991.
>
>I may have some C=64 5.25" around here somewhere, but I doubt it's still
>readable. If I could find that, that would be the oldest.

Eureka! I just went into my *old* closet and found a "good" condition
printing of Seven Cities of Gold for the C=64, complete with floppy. I
have no way to test if it's readable.

I'm pretty sure it's the only game I have left from that era.

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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6eh51jt0qrsfaprgpk8cgfibicimgcvge8@4ax.com:

> Where does 'old' begin for you?

I've never owned a console, but I've been playing games on machines since the days of
Space Invaders in the 70s and computers since Kong on a Kaypro running CP/M in the 80s.

While I'd surely say that gameplay is *the* thing as far as the fun is concerned, there are a
few clear cut-off points, as others have mentioned, supported resolution being the most
obvious.

For me today, I'd particularly cite Mass Effect, recently reissued in the Legendary Edition to
milk the old cow again. I'd class Mass Effect 1 as an *old game*, even in its legendary
incarnation, whereas I think 2 and 3 still seem decent enough not to be classed as *old*.

Tamam shud!

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:40:10 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:54 this Wednesday (GMT):

>> But it was pocket-sized, quick to start, and had amazing battery life.
>> Also it was the only portable I had. So it got played. Just never
>> really enjoyed.

>Fair. I didn't know what a good game was for a few years, so I had a
>ton of shovelware DS games.

It's true!

Even I, back when I was a younger person and only had as many games as
could be counted on a single hand, any game would get played and
replayed because a) I didn't know what made a good game from a bad
one, and b) I only had a limited selection anyway. I'm sorry, younger
me, but "Sierra's 3D Helicopter Simulator" was /not/ a good game, and
all that time you spent with it was better spent elsewhere.

But on the flip side, having a library of [number redacted] - and
having played a significant percentage of those games - isn't without
penalty either. I can too easily see the similarity in mechanics and
tropes, this lack of novelty makes it harder to enjoy new games which
simply ape older games just because those games were popular. There's
a reason I bitch about the lack of novelty in games so often! I don't
really wish to return to my days of callow youth when I didn't know
any better - I rather enjoy my grumpy cynicism - but it would make me
be able to look less critically at the crap Ubisoft regularly shits
out ;-)

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:00:14 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Also anything that plays in 800x600 or 1024x768 (and does anyone remember
>1280x1024?) as a base res, or starts you up in 640x480 and gives you the
>option to increase to the 4:3 res of your choice.

Yeah, that's another good delineation: if a game can't do widescreen,
it automatically feels old to me. It's really hard for me to play
fencepost'd games on a modern monitor; I have to REALLY enjoy the game
to keep playing at that point. I'd almost certainly be looking for a
wide-screen hack (or, at the very least, an option to play the game in
a window, which I oddly find less offensive than 4:3 fullscreen)
before continuing.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 15:43 this Thursday (GMT):
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:40:10 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:54 this Wednesday (GMT):
>
>>> But it was pocket-sized, quick to start, and had amazing battery life.
>>> Also it was the only portable I had. So it got played. Just never
>>> really enjoyed.
>
>>Fair. I didn't know what a good game was for a few years, so I had a
>>ton of shovelware DS games.
>
> It's true!
>
> Even I, back when I was a younger person and only had as many games as
> could be counted on a single hand, any game would get played and
> replayed because a) I didn't know what made a good game from a bad
> one, and b) I only had a limited selection anyway. I'm sorry, younger
> me, but "Sierra's 3D Helicopter Simulator" was /not/ a good game, and
> all that time you spent with it was better spent elsewhere.
>
> But on the flip side, having a library of [number redacted] - and
> having played a significant percentage of those games - isn't without
> penalty either. I can too easily see the similarity in mechanics and
> tropes, this lack of novelty makes it harder to enjoy new games which
> simply ape older games just because those games were popular. There's
> a reason I bitch about the lack of novelty in games so often! I don't
> really wish to return to my days of callow youth when I didn't know
> any better - I rather enjoy my grumpy cynicism - but it would make me
> be able to look less critically at the crap Ubisoft regularly shits
> out ;-)
>

Unfortunately, I sold most of them to GameStop for an actually good game
(M&L BiS). I do remember having 3 Phineas and Ferb games, a Scooby Doo
one and a penguins of madagascar game.
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 15:48 this Thursday (GMT):
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:00:14 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Also anything that plays in 800x600 or 1024x768 (and does anyone remember
>>1280x1024?) as a base res, or starts you up in 640x480 and gives you the
>>option to increase to the 4:3 res of your choice.
>
> Yeah, that's another good delineation: if a game can't do widescreen,
> it automatically feels old to me. It's really hard for me to play
> fencepost'd games on a modern monitor; I have to REALLY enjoy the game
> to keep playing at that point. I'd almost certainly be looking for a
> wide-screen hack (or, at the very least, an option to play the game in
> a window, which I oddly find less offensive than 4:3 fullscreen)
> before continuing.
>
>
>
>

I grew up playing emulators, so I don't really care that much.
Thenagain, I was scared of fullscreen games :)
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:00:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

>
>I grew up playing emulators, so I don't really care that much.
>Thenagain, I was scared of fullscreen games :)

I still have that fear when it comes to full-screen games from the
Win9x/early XP era. They were so... FRAGILE when it came to running in
full-screen (or, more importantly, when you tried to alt-tab out of
them). Back in the '95 days, switching away from a full-screen game
could lock up your computer (these days, the older game might lock up,
but you're PC will keep running fine otherwise. That's progress, I
suppose).

On 4/12/2024 6:14 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:00:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I grew up playing emulators, so I don't really care that much.
>> Thenagain, I was scared of fullscreen games :)
>
>
> I still have that fear when it comes to full-screen games from the
> Win9x/early XP era. They were so... FRAGILE when it came to running in
> full-screen (or, more importantly, when you tried to alt-tab out of
> them). Back in the '95 days, switching away from a full-screen game
> could lock up your computer (these days, the older game might lock up,
> but you're PC will keep running fine otherwise. That's progress, I
> suppose).
>

I've had the same problem with at least 2 of the recent games I played,
Deathloop and Dragon's Dogma. Both would hard freeze the game if you
left it paused in fullscreen. Even not alt-tabbing, a few minutes and
it would freeze. I had to run both in windowed for them not to freeze.

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On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:44:01 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On 4/12/2024 6:14 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:00:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

>>> I grew up playing emulators, so I don't really care that much.
>>> Thenagain, I was scared of fullscreen games :)

>> I still have that fear when it comes to full-screen games from the
>> Win9x/early XP era. They were so... FRAGILE when it came to running in
>> full-screen (or, more importantly, when you tried to alt-tab out of
>> them). Back in the '95 days, switching away from a full-screen game
>> could lock up your computer (these days, the older game might lock up,
>> but you're PC will keep running fine otherwise. That's progress, I
>> suppose).

>I've had the same problem with at least 2 of the recent games I played,
>Deathloop and Dragon's Dogma. Both would hard freeze the game if you
>left it paused in fullscreen. Even not alt-tabbing, a few minutes and
>it would freeze. I had to run both in windowed for them not to freeze.

Those are rarer for me. Although I do worry about leaving the game
paused long enough for the screensaver to kick-in, since some games
don't play well when another application grabs hold of the 3D
renderer. So I almost always make sure to save/quit-to-desktop if I
know I'm going to be away from the computer for a while.

But at least it isn't BSODing and taking down the whole PC like would
happen in the Win9x days.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 01:14 this Saturday (GMT):
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:00:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I grew up playing emulators, so I don't really care that much.
>>Thenagain, I was scared of fullscreen games :)
>
>
> I still have that fear when it comes to full-screen games from the
> Win9x/early XP era. They were so... FRAGILE when it came to running in
> full-screen (or, more importantly, when you tried to alt-tab out of
> them). Back in the '95 days, switching away from a full-screen game
> could lock up your computer (these days, the older game might lock up,
> but you're PC will keep running fine otherwise. That's progress, I
> suppose).
>

Nah, I was way more irrational. Was outright scared bc I couldn't close
it as easily. Then again, I mostly play games in windowed mode nowadays
bc it's easier to have other windows open in the bg.
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:10:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 01:14 this Saturday (GMT):
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:00:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

>>>I grew up playing emulators, so I don't really care that much.
>>>Thenagain, I was scared of fullscreen games :)

>> I still have that fear when it comes to full-screen games from the
>> Win9x/early XP era. They were so... FRAGILE when it came to running in
>> full-screen (or, more importantly, when you tried to alt-tab out of
>> them). Back in the '95 days, switching away from a full-screen game
>> could lock up your computer (these days, the older game might lock up,
>> but you're PC will keep running fine otherwise. That's progress, I
>> suppose).

>Nah, I was way more irrational. Was outright scared bc I couldn't close
>it as easily. Then again, I mostly play games in windowed mode nowadays
>bc it's easier to have other windows open in the bg.

That's a sensible method.

I, on the other hand, just plug in more and more monitors and make
everything full-screen. ;-)

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:10:02 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 01:14 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:00:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>>><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>
>>>>I grew up playing emulators, so I don't really care that much.
>>>>Thenagain, I was scared of fullscreen games :)
>
>>> I still have that fear when it comes to full-screen games from the
>>> Win9x/early XP era. They were so... FRAGILE when it came to running in
>>> full-screen (or, more importantly, when you tried to alt-tab out of
>>> them). Back in the '95 days, switching away from a full-screen game
>>> could lock up your computer (these days, the older game might lock up,
>>> but you're PC will keep running fine otherwise. That's progress, I
>>> suppose).
>
>>Nah, I was way more irrational. Was outright scared bc I couldn't close
>>it as easily. Then again, I mostly play games in windowed mode nowadays
>>bc it's easier to have other windows open in the bg.
>
>That's a sensible method.
>
>I, on the other hand, just plug in more and more monitors and make
>everything full-screen. ;-)

Been running everything that will in windowed mode since launch day of
City of Heroes. For some reason it would disconnect after exactly 5
minutes, and the "fix" was to play windowed. Been doing it ever since.

It's a rare game that crashes when paused or when I inevitably tab out.

Xocyll

On 4/13/2024 10:25 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:44:01 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On 4/12/2024 6:14 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:00:09 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>
>>>> I grew up playing emulators, so I don't really care that much.
>>>> Thenagain, I was scared of fullscreen games :)
>
>>> I still have that fear when it comes to full-screen games from the
>>> Win9x/early XP era. They were so... FRAGILE when it came to running in
>>> full-screen (or, more importantly, when you tried to alt-tab out of
>>> them). Back in the '95 days, switching away from a full-screen game
>>> could lock up your computer (these days, the older game might lock up,
>>> but you're PC will keep running fine otherwise. That's progress, I
>>> suppose).
>
>> I've had the same problem with at least 2 of the recent games I played,
>> Deathloop and Dragon's Dogma. Both would hard freeze the game if you
>> left it paused in fullscreen. Even not alt-tabbing, a few minutes and
>> it would freeze. I had to run both in windowed for them not to freeze.
>
> Those are rarer for me. Although I do worry about leaving the game
> paused long enough for the screensaver to kick-in, since some games
> don't play well when another application grabs hold of the 3D
> renderer. So I almost always make sure to save/quit-to-desktop if I
> know I'm going to be away from the computer for a while.

I haven't used a screen saver in so long I don't remember when the last
time was. I do have the power settings to turn off the screen after 15
minutes, but it was happening in less than 5 minutes.

> But at least it isn't BSODing and taking down the whole PC like would
> happen in the Win9x days.

True.

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