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* Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
+* Re: Foray into FreeBSDFarley Flud
|`- Re: Foray into FreeBSDvallor
`* Re: Foray into FreeBSDRonB
 `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
  `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDRonB
   +* Re: Foray into FreeBSDRabidPedagog
   |+- Re: Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
   |`* Re: Foray into FreeBSDLawrence D'Oliveiro
   | `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
   |  `- Re: Foray into FreeBSDLawrence D'Oliveiro
   `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDLawrence D'Oliveiro
    +* Re: Foray into FreeBSDRonB
    |`* Re: Foray into FreeBSDrbowman
    | +- Re: Foray into FreeBSDRabidPedagog
    | +* Re: Foray into FreeBSDRabidPedagog
    | |`- Re: Foray into FreeBSDJoel
    | +- Re: Foray into FreeBSDRonB
    | `- Re: Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
    `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDchrisv
     `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDcandycanearter07
      +- Re: Foray into FreeBSDJoel
      `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDRabidPedagog
       `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
        +* Re: Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
        |`- Re: Foray into FreeBSDDFS
        `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDchrisv
         +- Re: Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
         `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDRabidPedagog
          +- Re: Foray into FreeBSDChris Ahlstrom
          `* Re: Foray into FreeBSDchrisv
           +* Re: Foray into FreeBSDFarley Flud
           |+- Re: Foray into FreeBSDDFS
           |`- Re: Foray into FreeBSDStéphane CARPENTIER
           `- Re: Foray into FreeBSDRabidPedagog

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Re: Foray into FreeBSD

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 by: DFS - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 03:25 UTC

On 1/17/2024 5:52 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> So I poweroff and unplug the bootable FreeBSD external drive. Power up.
> Enter my login into the sddm prompt. Nothing, just a mouse.
>
> I poke around and find that mounting the Linux home partition in FreeBSD had,
> due to a mistake in my mounting script, set the ownership of the Linux home to
> a user with ID 1001, not 1000, since FreeBSD starts the user IDs with 1001
> instead of 1000.
>
> A "chown -R" fixed things quick.
>
> Live and learn.

How exciting. Next you had unflavored oatmeal for breakfast, then
clipped your toenails. Then you scratched your chin and wondered why
you can't grow a neckbeard like your hero rms.

Re: Foray into FreeBSD

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 by: Chris Ahlstrom - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 11:31 UTC

chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Slime wrote:
>>>
>>> Technical users are going to become extinct with time.
>>
>>Nah, there will always be a need for technical users.
>>
>> - Computer designers (hello Taiwan :-D)
>> - Programmers
>> - Engineers
>> - Sys Admins and Help Deskers
>> - Teachers of the above
>> - . . .
>
> Of course. *Someone* needs to know how things work.

I'm reminded of a scene in Niven & Pournelle's sf novel, "Mote in God's
Eye". Some people go aboard a Motie ship. One guy is agog at all the strange
equipment aboard the ship. Another, an engineer, excitedly points out all the
implementation of technology with which he was well familiar.

Something like that.

I remember reading Pournelle's column in Byte magazine. He's dead, but his
site is still around: https://www.jerrypournelle.com/whatis.html

--
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you.
This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

Re: Foray into FreeBSD

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 by: RabidPedagog - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 13:40 UTC

On 2024-01-17 7:37 p.m., chrisv wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Slime wrote:
>>>
>>> Technical users are going to become extinct with time.
>>
>> Nah, there will always be a need for technical users.
>>
>> - Computer designers (hello Taiwan :-D)
>> - Programmers
>> - Engineers
>> - Sys Admins and Help Deskers
>> - Teachers of the above
>> - . . .
>
> Of course. *Someone* needs to know how things work.

Yep, however I specifically said that technical _users_ would become
extinct with time. I said nothing about technical _producers_ of any kind.

--
RabidPedagog
Catholic paleoconservative

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 by: Chris Ahlstrom - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 16:09 UTC

RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-01-17 7:37 p.m., chrisv wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Slime wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Technical users are going to become extinct with time.
>>>
>>> Nah, there will always be a need for technical users.
>>>
>>> - Computer designers (hello Taiwan :-D)
>>> - Programmers
>>> - Engineers
>>> - Sys Admins and Help Deskers
>>> - Teachers of the above
>>> - . . .
>>
>> Of course. *Someone* needs to know how things work.
>
> Yep, however I specifically said that technical _users_ would become
> extinct with time. I said nothing about technical _producers_ of any kind.

There's a large supply of non-computer technical people who use computers.
I guess I mean "technical" in the sense of being willing and able to figure
stuff out.

I do get your point, though. Still, there will always be curious and motivated
kids who will look outside the fads and games. It's in our genes to monkey
around with things.

--
October.
This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in.
The others are July, January, September, April, November, May, March, June,
December, August, and February.

-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

Re: Foray into FreeBSD

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 by: chrisv - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 21:20 UTC

RabidPedagog wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> Slime wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Technical users are going to become extinct with time.
>>>
>>> Nah, there will always be a need for technical users.
>>>
>>> - Computer designers (hello Taiwan :-D)
>>> - Programmers
>>> - Engineers
>>> - Sys Admins and Help Deskers
>>> - Teachers of the above
>>> - . . .
>>
>> Of course. *Someone* needs to know how things work.
>
>Yep, however I specifically said that technical _users_ would become
>extinct with time. I said nothing about technical _producers_ of any kind.

There's a lot of overlapping and gray areas, and I don't know why
anything would change. There will always be people of widely varying
curiosity and intelligence and knowledge.

--
"That's what you said:" - DumFSck, lying shamelessly, after which he
quoted what I really said. Nice of him, to document his own *lie*.

Re: Foray into FreeBSD

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 by: Farley Flud - Thu, 18 Jan 2024 22:27 UTC

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 15:20:47 -0600, chrisv wrote:

> RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>>
>>Yep, however I specifically said that technical _users_ would become
>>extinct with time. I said nothing about technical _producers_ of any kind.
>
> There's a lot of overlapping and gray areas, and I don't know why
> anything would change. There will always be people of widely varying
> curiosity and intelligence and knowledge.
>

Why bother responding to that technical loser?

He knows NOTHING about anything even remotely technical. He is
destined to be an ignoramus button-pusher and mouse-clicker until
his dying day.

The GNU/Linux computing world will shovel him and his DuFuS buddy
into the lunatic dregs.

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 by: RabidPedagog - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:51 UTC

On 2024-01-18 4:20 p.m., chrisv wrote:
> RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Slime wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Technical users are going to become extinct with time.
>>>>
>>>> Nah, there will always be a need for technical users.
>>>>
>>>> - Computer designers (hello Taiwan :-D)
>>>> - Programmers
>>>> - Engineers
>>>> - Sys Admins and Help Deskers
>>>> - Teachers of the above
>>>> - . . .
>>>
>>> Of course. *Someone* needs to know how things work.
>>
>> Yep, however I specifically said that technical _users_ would become
>> extinct with time. I said nothing about technical _producers_ of any kind.
>
> There's a lot of overlapping and gray areas, and I don't know why
> anything would change. There will always be people of widely varying
> curiosity and intelligence and knowledge.

I would hope so, but I am exposed to the future of intellectual
curiosity daily and things don't look too promising.

--
RabidPedagog
Catholic paleoconservative

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 by: DFS - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:44 UTC

On 1/18/2024 5:27 PM, Larry Piet wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 15:20:47 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>
>> RabidPedagog wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yep, however I specifically said that technical _users_ would become
>>> extinct with time. I said nothing about technical _producers_ of any kind.
>>
>> There's a lot of overlapping and gray areas, and I don't know why
>> anything would change. There will always be people of widely varying
>> curiosity and intelligence and knowledge.
>>
>
> Why bother responding to that technical loser?

Rather a "technical loser" than a womanless life loser and programming
failure living off his Mom at age 42.

> He knows NOTHING about anything even remotely technical. He is
> destined to be an ignoramus button-pusher and mouse-clicker until
> his dying day.
>
> The GNU/Linux computing world will shovel him and his DuFuS buddy
> into the lunatic dregs.

Luckily the "GNU/Linux computing world" isn't full of programming frauds
like you:

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owl: "And if it were 60 million records instead of 6000..."

Feeb: "Then I'd write it in C, using a reentrant lexical parser
and parallel processing."

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"I would like to contribute by implementing Euler angle rotation but,
jeezus fucking christ, I can't do everything now, can I?

Holy fuck! I am only a single human being. The GIMP people want me
to implement netpbm HDR formats. The ImageMagick folks want me to
implement AI. I gotta eat, sleep, piss, and shit. Give this poor boy
a fucking break!

But I am a FOSS person. I can do anything and everything and I can
do it all extremely well."

DFS note: NOT A CHANCE IN HELL you could write such code

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left side : "I am a FOSS person"
right side: "I couldn't care less about the [FOSS] "community."

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What a fucking phony.

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 by: Stéphane CARPENTIER - Fri, 19 Jan 2024 22:37 UTC

Le 18-01-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> destined to be an ignoramus button-pusher and mouse-clicker until
> his dying day.

Like you. From what I saw, you use your mouse as much as you can and you
don't try to use your keyboard when it could be better. So why do you
despise someone exactly like you?

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:17:23 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
> royalties:
>
>> Greater diversity on Linux, greater fragmentation on BSD.
>
> Not so sure about that.

Consider that there are perhaps half a dozen currently viable BSD
variants, as opposed to 50× that number of Linux distros. Yet it is easier
to move between Linux distros than it is to switch BSD variants.

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