On 10/26/2021 12:44 PM, Kévin wrote:
> It looks like the new usenet group has been set-up. Is there anybody
> else lurking around here ?
>
> -Kévin
>
> ---
> gemini://oh.mg

Hello Everyone!
This is my first time using Usenet/NNTP ever, so I'm not sure if I'm
doing this correctly (in fact, it's my second attempt at sending a
message, lol).

On 1/3/22 16:17, Christian Seibold wrote:
> This is my first time using Usenet/NNTP ever, so I'm not sure if I'm
> doing this correctly (in fact, it's my second attempt at sending a
> message, lol).

I got your message! Did you get mine? >_>

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On 1/3/2022 6:59 AM, Ben wrote:
> On 1/3/22 16:17, Christian Seibold wrote:
>> This is my first time using Usenet/NNTP ever, so I'm not sure if I'm
>> doing this correctly (in fact, it's my second attempt at sending a
>> message, lol).
>
> I got your message! Did you get mine? >_>
>

Yep! I'm still learning how to do this stuff in Thunderbird. There's a
followup which will automatically put in the newsgroup, but it doesn't
put in the followup-to reply email address, it seems. And Reply puts in
the reply to, but not the newsgroup. It's odd.

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Christian Seibold wrote:
> On 1/3/2022 6:59 AM, Ben wrote:
>> On 1/3/22 16:17, Christian Seibold wrote:
>>> This is my first time using Usenet/NNTP ever, so I'm not sure if I'm
>>> doing this correctly (in fact, it's my second attempt at sending a
>>> message, lol).
>>
>> I got your message! Did you get mine? >_>
>>
>
> Yep! I'm still learning how to do this stuff in Thunderbird. There's a
> followup which will automatically put in the newsgroup, but it doesn't
> put in the followup-to reply email address, it seems. And Reply puts in
> the reply to, but not the newsgroup. It's odd.

The "Followup-To" header is akin to an email "Reply-To" header. That is,
it's a "special" indicator that's used to redirect replies ("Followups"
in Usenet parlance) away from what the "defaults" would otherwise
indicate.

In an email, you'd have something like this

| From: noreply@company.com
| To: user@email.com
| Reply-To: info@company.com

Such that if "user@email.com" hit "reply" in their mail client, the
email would be sent to "info@company.com" instead of "noreply".

Usenet is similar, although instead of indicating an email address you
want someone to reply to, you are indicating which newsgroup you want to
read their reply in. For example, let's say I was asking for a good
Gemini server to run on a Linux VM. My initial headers would be:

| Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gemini,alt.os.linux
| From: ( me :) )
| Subject: Looking for a Gemini server to run on Debian
| Followup-To: alt.os.linux

Which will send my initial message to BOTH groups, but anyone responding
would only be sending their message to the alt.os.linux newsgroup,
instead of both.

HTH :)

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Christian Seibold wrote:

> I'm still learning how to do this stuff in Thunderbird. There's a followup which
> will automatically put in the newsgroup, but it doesn't put in the followup-to
> reply email address, it seems. And Reply puts in the reply to, but not the
> newsgroup. It's odd.

My recommendation on that ... ignore the reply button(s) in the lower message
pane toolbar, just use the buttons in the top program toolbar

In fact, use the "Message Header Toolbar Customise" add-on to completely hide
that waste of screen space ...

On 1/3/2022 7:47 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Christian Seibold wrote:
>> On 1/3/2022 6:59 AM, Ben wrote:
>>> On 1/3/22 16:17, Christian Seibold wrote:
>>>> This is my first time using Usenet/NNTP ever, so I'm not sure if I'm
>>>> doing this correctly (in fact, it's my second attempt at sending a
>>>> message, lol).
>>>
>>> I got your message! Did you get mine? >_>
>>>
>
>> Yep! I'm still learning how to do this stuff in Thunderbird. There's a
>> followup which will automatically put in the newsgroup, but it doesn't
>> put in the followup-to reply email address, it seems. And Reply puts in
>> the reply to, but not the newsgroup. It's odd.
>
> The "Followup-To" header is akin to an email "Reply-To" header. That is,
> it's a "special" indicator that's used to redirect replies ("Followups"
> in Usenet parlance) away from what the "defaults" would otherwise
> indicate.
>
> In an email, you'd have something like this
>
> | From: noreply@company.com
> | To: user@email.com
> | Reply-To: info@company.com
>
>
> Such that if "user@email.com" hit "reply" in their mail client, the
> email would be sent to "info@company.com" instead of "noreply".
>
> Usenet is similar, although instead of indicating an email address you
> want someone to reply to, you are indicating which newsgroup you want to
> read their reply in. For example, let's say I was asking for a good
> Gemini server to run on a Linux VM. My initial headers would be:
>
> | Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gemini,alt.os.linux
> | From: ( me :) )
> | Subject: Looking for a Gemini server to run on Debian
> | Followup-To: alt.os.linux
>
>
> Which will send my initial message to BOTH groups, but anyone responding
> would only be sending their message to the alt.os.linux newsgroup,
> instead of both.
>
>
> HTH :)
>
>
>
>

I think the other thing I was missing was that there seems to be a
"References" header thing that seems to tell which reply you are
replying to, correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, thanks! That definitely helps. The Followup-To thing is really
interesting.

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Christian Seibold wrote:
> On 1/3/2022 7:47 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> Christian Seibold wrote:
>>> [...] but it doesn't put in the followup-to reply email address, it
>>> seems.
>>
>> The "Followup-To" header is akin to an email "Reply-To" header. That is,
>> it's a "special" indicator that's used to redirect replies ("Followups"
>> in Usenet parlance) away from what the "defaults" would otherwise
>> indicate.
>> [...]
>
>
> I think the other thing I was missing was that there seems to be a
> "References" header thing that seems to tell which reply you are
> replying to, correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, the "References" header is used by your newsreader to properly
thread the conversation. You shouldn't have to worry about this at all
in normal usage.

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On 1/3/22 6:47 AM, Christian Seibold wrote:
> On 10/26/2021 12:44 PM, Kévin wrote:
>> It looks like the new usenet group has been set-up.  Is there anybody
>> else lurking around here ?
>>
>> -Kévin
>>
>> ---
>> gemini://oh.mg
>
> Hello Everyone!
> This is my first time using Usenet/NNTP ever, so I'm not sure if I'm
> doing this correctly (in fact, it's my second attempt at sending a
> message, lol).

You're holdin' up might steady so far, whipper-snapper.

Welcome to the past!

On 1/3/2022 2:42 PM, P. Case wrote:
> On 1/3/22 6:47 AM, Christian Seibold wrote:
>> On 10/26/2021 12:44 PM, Kévin wrote:
>>> It looks like the new usenet group has been set-up.  Is there anybody
>>> else lurking around here ?
>>>
>>> -Kévin
>>>
>>> ---
>>> gemini://oh.mg
>>
>> Hello Everyone!
>> This is my first time using Usenet/NNTP ever, so I'm not sure if I'm
>> doing this correctly (in fact, it's my second attempt at sending a
>> message, lol).
>
> You're holdin' up might steady so far, whipper-snapper.
>
> Welcome to the past!
>

Thanks! I think I'm starting to get the hang of this.