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* UNAS by TRWChris Sparks
`* Re: UNAS by TRWLudovic Brenta
 `* Re: UNAS by TRWChris Sparks
  `* Re: UNAS by TRWLudovic Brenta
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Subject: UNAS by TRW
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 by: Chris Sparks - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 12:58 UTC

Does know how to get the complete UNAS package from TRW? I use it at work and I see it has an open usage clause in the source headers. Since I am not allowed to download it from my work, maybe I can find a source elsewhere to get it?

Also are there any tutorials out there on how to use it? I am in the process of upgrading the Ada (83 to 05) in my current project and I am getting stuck on the plethora of call being made by UNAS for which I don't even know how to set it up so it can run happily.

Chris Sparks

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 by: Ludovic Brenta - Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:24 UTC

Chris Sparks <mrada442@gmail.com> writes:
> Does know how to get the complete UNAS package from TRW? I use it at
> work and I see it has an open usage clause in the source headers.
> Since I am not allowed to download it from my work, maybe I can find a
> source elsewhere to get it?

Doubtful.

> Also are there any tutorials out there on how to use it?

"Out there", definitely not. In a few closed places that still use
UNAS, perhaps but doubtful. In the one place that I know still uses
UNAS, no.

> I am in the process of upgrading the Ada (83 to 05) in my current
> project and I am getting stuck on the plethora of call being made by
> UNAS for which I don't even know how to set it up so it can run
> happily.

Do I divine correctly that "your current project" is not "at work"? If
so I would suggest you consider polyorb as a replacement(*). UNAS is
long dead, unmaintained and unmaintainable, mostly because it is
proprietary software witout anyone getting a license for it other than
in their current application. Also, apart from a couple of people I
know, nobody understands UNAS anymore. The company that made it has
abandoned it, perhaps even gone bankrupt, so UNAS is mostly technical
debt. Sorry for the bad "news".

(*) Modern multi-core computers with lots of memory might even make it
feasible to avoid distributing the software over multiple computers in
the first place. Maybe a monolithic application would do the job just
fine, nowadays.

--
Ludovic Brenta.
Actually, the customers cautiously pre-prepare marketplace corporate values.

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 by: Chris Sparks - Thu, 24 Aug 2023 23:36 UTC

I suspected as much. If I could only find something that would show me how to install it and operational so I can finish my upgrade project. Going to a new software is something that would bring on risk, unless I could narrow down what exactly the UNAS is being used for. This effort I am working on is for the contract I am working on.

What would really help is documentation. Installation, operation so that I can tell that it is working.

Chris...

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 by: Ludovic Brenta - Fri, 25 Aug 2023 02:13 UTC

Chris Sparks <mrada442@gmail.com> writes:
> I suspected as much. If I could only find something that would show
> me how to install it and operational so I can finish my upgrade
> project. Going to a new software is something that would bring on
> risk, unless I could narrow down what exactly the UNAS is being used
> for. This effort I am working on is for the contract I am working on.
>
> What would really help is documentation. Installation, operation so
> that I can tell that it is working.

If your customer has UNAS, they probably have documentation, or what
passes as documentation.

BTW, UNAS is a framework for distributed applications i.e. multiple
programs doing remote procedure calls and message passing over the
network.

--
Ludovic Brenta.

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 by: Chris Sparks - Sat, 26 Aug 2023 00:41 UTC

Unfortunately they don't have any documentation as it was setup very long ago.

If I had it on my home PC I would have more time to look at it.

Chris

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 7:13:57 PM UTC-7, Ludovic Brenta wrote:
> If your customer has UNAS, they probably have documentation, or what
> passes as documentation.
>
> BTW, UNAS is a framework for distributed applications i.e. multiple
> programs doing remote procedure calls and message passing over the
> network.
>
> --
> Ludovic Brenta.

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