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Subject: Re: DERIVED or ORIGINAL for Image Type (0008,0008) of Orthodontic Photographs?
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 by: Toni Magni - Thu, 4 May 2023 15:40 UTC

Nobody replied. FYI: this is how i'm doing it:

When acquiring orthodontic photographs, the photographs can usually be archived in three forms:

['ORIGINAL','PRIMARY']: The photographic acquisition device (camera or software) will upload the photograph as is.

['ORIGINAL','PRIMARY']: The photographic acquisition device (camera or software) will perform basic operations like rotation and cropping, and save the image as rotated or cropped and discard the uncropped, unrotated image.

['ORIGINAL','PRIMARY'] and ['DERIVED','PRIMARY']: The photographic acquisition device (camera or software) will perform basic operations like rotation and cropping, and save the image as rotated or cropped as 'DERIVED' and save the uncropped, unrotated image as well as 'ORIGINAL'.

When saving both the original and the derived image, the derived image will have to reference the original image making use of the General Reference Module.

Cheers,

On Monday, 6 March 2023 at 15:52:23 UTC+1, Toni Magni wrote:
> When a DICOM photographic camera is used in an orthodontic practice to capture a (visible light) image (of the face or oral cavity), and the user performs some basic operations (like cropping and flipping) on the camera itself before uploading to PACS, should the Image Type be DERIVED/PRIMARY?
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> After all, in this case the image has "pixel values which have been derived in some manner from the pixel value of another image" (definition of DERIVED in DICOM standard Image Type https://dicom.nema.org/medical/dicom/current/output/chtml/part03/sect_C.7.6.html#sect_C.7.6.1.1.2). But then, what do i put in the General Reference module? There simply is no other DICOM object to refer to, because the pixel values of the original image have been discarded at the acquisition device, before even getting DICOMized.
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> Or maybe it should just get tagged and ORIGINAL/PRIMARY?

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