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by: danie...@gmail.com - Mon, 6 Jun 2022 17:37 UTC

If I have an image with e.g. some contrib packages loaded, and a new version of those packages is released, is there a straightforward way to load the new code into the image? This seems like it should be simple to do, but I don't see a way in the UI, and digging through the code behind "Install Package...", I'm honestly not sure which parts to run and which parts to leave out in order to make sure all the various events end up hooked up properly, things like globals and scripts get updated, etc. Package>>load seems like a good start, but it doesn't handle *removing* methods that are no longer present in the package-on-disk, and I don't know whether it handles events properly. Certainly it looks like it leaves too many events turned on, which is a performance issue. I don't *think* it drops any on the floor but I'm not sure.

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by: picoVerse - Tue, 30 Aug 2022 05:22 UTC

Why can't we hot swap Packages?
isn't it just a file in plus a remove Methods owned by the
previous version but not the new version? i don't get it why not

On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 4:21:25 PM UTC-7, danie...@gmail.com wrote:
> Just a matter of performance—I have an application with enough code that booting a new image takes 20 minutes, working with changes to a dependency that loads in 30 seconds. I do regularly boot a new image, but it's a pain to be *forced* to do so in order to check out a few last-minute changes.
> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 9:57:01 PM UTC-4, bruno.b...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> > The "stream" now is to build the image from the scratch.
> > What is preventing you to build the image from the scratch (and load the new versions of the packages)?
> > regards,
> > bruno

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devel / comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin / Loading newer version of package from disk

Subject	Author
Loading newer version of package from disk	danie...@gmail.com
Re: Loading newer version of package from disk	Bruno Buzzi Brassesco
Re: Loading newer version of package from disk	picoVerse