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* Print/format DSL libraryStefan Monnier
`* Re: Print/format DSL librarySpiros Bousbouras
 +- Re: Print/format DSL libraryStefan Monnier
 `- Re: Print/format DSL libraryLawrence D'Oliveiro

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From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca (Stefan Monnier)
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Subject: Print/format DSL library
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 by: Stefan Monnier - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:48 UTC

Hi,

I remember bumping into a library several years ago (must have been
Common Lisp or Schemem, IIRC) which provided a sexp-based DSL for the
job usually performed by the "format string" in things like C's `printf`
or Lisp's `format`. But I can't remember anything like the name of the
library or the name(s?) of its author(s?).

It also came with a nice introduction explaining the rationale for the
design and how it is just so much better than those standard approaches.

Does that ring a bell?

Stefan

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 by: Spiros Bousbouras - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:46 UTC

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:48:19 -0500
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I remember bumping into a library several years ago (must have been
> Common Lisp or Schemem, IIRC) which provided a sexp-based DSL for the
> job usually performed by the "format string" in things like C's `printf`
> or Lisp's `format`. But I can't remember anything like the name of the
> library or the name(s?) of its author(s?).
>
> It also came with a nice introduction explaining the rationale for the
> design and how it is just so much better than those standard approaches.
>
> Does that ring a bell?

4 An Improved Formatted I/O Facility
from http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/dvm/papers/ytdoc.pdf perhaps ?
Parent page is http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/dvm/index.html .

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 by: Stefan Monnier - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:33 UTC

> 4 An Improved Formatted I/O Facility
> from http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/dvm/papers/ytdoc.pdf perhaps ?
> Parent page is http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/dvm/index.html .

Thanks. That's not the one I remember (or my memory is really ppor),
but it's going in a similar direction, indeed.
And it's a nice read :-)

Stefan

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From: ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 22:17 UTC

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:46:53 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

> 4 An Improved Formatted I/O Facility
> from http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/dvm/papers/ytdoc.pdf perhaps ?
> Parent page is http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/dvm/index.html .

Unfortunately, that suffers from the same drawback as C++ I/O streams, in
that you cannot get a format string from localizable resources that can
reorder items to match the grammatical requirements of different
languages.

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