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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:34 UTC

Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write
here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for
xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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by: Ron Pinkas - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:44 UTC

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 4:35:00 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write
> here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for
> xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?
>
> --
> Enrico Maria Giordano
>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
Something happened SPAM wise since few days ago - I wonder if there is something we can do.

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by: Ron Pinkas - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:46 UTC

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:22 UTC

Il 19/10/2023 22:44, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

> Something happened SPAM wise since few days ago - I wonder if there is something we can do.

I don't see any spam here. I'm using news.eternal-september.org.

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http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:24 UTC

Il 19/10/2023 22:46, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

>> Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write
>> here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for
>> xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?
>
> Probably good idea,

Ok, Any other opinions?

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:40 UTC

Il 19/10/2023 11:34, Enrico Maria Giordano ha scritto:

> Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write
> here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for
> xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?

I withdraw my proposal. We already have a Google Group:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.xharbour

Sorry for the confusion I created.

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Enrico Maria Giordano

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http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 07:15 UTC

I'm trying to delete the spam messages from our Google Group but it does
not allow me to do it. Who is the owner of that group?

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http://www.emagsoftware.it
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by: dop...@gmail.com - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 12:49 UTC

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:44:02 PM UTC-3, Ron Pinkas wrote:
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 4:35:00 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> > Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write
> > here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for
> > xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?
> >
> > --
> > Enrico Maria Giordano
> >
> > http://www.emagsoftware.it
> > http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> > http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> > http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
> Something happened SPAM wise since few days ago - I wonder if there is something we can do.
Maybe https://support.google.com/groups/answer/9792693?hl=en

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by: Ron Pinkas - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 18:22 UTC

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:15:18 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> I'm trying to delete the spam messages from our Google Group but it does
> not allow me to do it. Who is the owner of that group?
> --
> Enrico Maria Giordano
>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
This is a reflection of the news://comp.lang.xharbour. We created it but I don't believe there is an "ownership'. We should find out how to report it. Maybe if we each MARK it as SPAM then Google AI will learn and block it.
/

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 19:05 UTC

Il 21/10/2023 20:22, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

>> I'm trying to delete the spam messages from our Google Group but it does
>> not allow me to do it. Who is the owner of that group?
>
> This is a reflection of the news://comp.lang.xharbour. We created it but I don't believe there is an "ownership'. We should find out how to report it. Maybe if we each MARK it as SPAM then Google AI will learn and block it.

Ok, I will do it, thank you.

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 19:08 UTC

Il 21/10/2023 21:05, Enrico Maria Giordano ha scritto:

>> This is a reflection of the news://comp.lang.xharbour. We created it
>> but I don't believe there is an "ownership'. We should find out how to
>> report it. Maybe if we each MARK it as SPAM then Google AI will learn
>> and block it.
>
> Ok, I will do it, thank you.

Done, only few spam messages remained. The other are vanished. Somebody
has deleted them?

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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by: Ron Pinkas - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:38 UTC

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:08:50 PM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 21/10/2023 21:05, Enrico Maria Giordano ha scritto:
>
> >> This is a reflection of the news://comp.lang.xharbour. We created it
> >> but I don't believe there is an "ownership'. We should find out how to
> >> report it. Maybe if we each MARK it as SPAM then Google AI will learn
> >> and block it.
> >
> > Ok, I will do it, thank you.
> Done, only few spam messages remained. The other are vanished. Somebody
> has deleted them?
> --
> Enrico Maria Giordano
>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
I keep reporting all SPAM I encounter - so it might take effect for others too.

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 19:11 UTC

Il 23/10/2023 20:38, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

>> Done, only few spam messages remained. The other are vanished. Somebody
>> has deleted them?
>
> I keep reporting all SPAM I encounter - so it might take effect for others too.

Me too.

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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by: dlzc - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 13:27 UTC

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 2:15:18 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> I'm trying to delete the spam messages from our Google Group but it does
> not allow me to do it. Who is the owner of that group?
> --
> Enrico Maria Giordano
>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

You cannot delete it. This is a USENET newsgroup, hosted by Google Groups but also other news servers. The SPAM is also flooding our sister VO newsgroup.

I am busy reporting it. When reported, it stops being returned on internet searches, and the piles of sh!t that dump their refuse like this fail to thrive. Anyone can help.

David A. Smith

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by: Ingo Steinbuechel - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 15:40 UTC

[Spam in newsgroups]
> You cannot delete it. This is a USENET newsgroup, hosted by Google
> Groups but also other news servers.

correct. The group is not owned by G00gle.

> I am busy reporting it. When reported, it stops being returned on
> internet searches, and the piles of sh!t that dump their refuse like
> this fail to thrive. Anyone can help.

Yes, don't use G00glegroups. That's just a crutch. Any decent newsreader
has filters. I have no problem here.

Regards Ingo

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 16:10 UTC

Il 24/10/2023 17:40, Ingo Steinbuechel ha scritto:

> Yes, don't use G00glegroups. That's just a crutch. Any decent newsreader
> has filters. I have no problem here.

Me neither. I don't see the spam on eternal-september.org news server.
I'm using Thunderbird without filters.

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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by: CV - Wed, 25 Oct 2023 16:17 UTC

El martes, 24 de octubre de 2023 a la(s) 13:10:09 UTC-3, Enrico Maria Giordano escribió:
> Il 24/10/2023 17:40, Ingo Steinbuechel ha scritto:
>
> > Yes, don't use G00glegroups. That's just a crutch. Any decent newsreader
> > has filters. I have no problem here.
> Me neither. I don't see the spam on eternal-september.org news server.
> I'm using Thunderbird without filters.
> --
> Enrico Maria Giordano
>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

Hi all

It is getting worst day after day!
I marked as SPAM 5 full pages of messages while using MS edge as browser for this newsgroup.

Don't know what else we can do.

Regards
Claudio Voskian

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by: dlzc - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:34 UTC

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:17:58 AM UTC-5, CV wrote:
>
> It is getting worst day after day!
> I marked as SPAM 5 full pages of messages while using MS edge
> as browser for this newsgroup.
>
> Don't know what else we can do.

You are accessing via Google Groups. Very likely the tool (or interface) that is being used by the spammers to flood the newsgroups.

The spam started out elsewhere, the same crap was on sci.physics.relativity at the end of September.

What they (Enrico / Ingo) are telling you, is if you get an email client or dedicated newsreader, it gets its content via a usenet service that filters out this drivel.

I like you use Google Groups, and I report this stuff, so that they do not profit. No search engine hits are returned on it, if it has been reported. I don't mind the noise, I enjoy punishing rapists.

David A. Smith

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by: Ron Pinkas - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:31 UTC

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:14:17 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?
> --
> Enrico Maria Giordano
>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
I believe it kind of automatically does. - but not completely.

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:39 UTC

Il 26/10/2023 17:31, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

>> Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?
>
> I believe it kind of automatically does. - but not completely.

I still see all of them. Ok, not the real header but a note says
something like "The conversation has been hidden...". Pages and pages of
that rubbish... :-(

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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by: Ron Pinkas - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 16:17 UTC

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 8:39:35 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 26/10/2023 17:31, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:
>
> >> Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?
> >
> > I believe it kind of automatically does. - but not completely.
> I still see all of them. Ok, not the real header but a note says
> something like "The conversation has been hidden...". Pages and pages of
> that rubbish... :-(
> --
> Enrico Maria Giordano
>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
Yes, same here.

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by: dlzc - Mon, 30 Oct 2023 13:59 UTC

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 7:14:17 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?

Not reliably. Google Groups seems to keep a list of "1000" or so most recent reports you have made, and automagically suppresses those with the hidden-due-to-reported banner. But with the recent floods in three newsgroups I monitor, reported threads in a couple of others have suddenly been revealed. As if they had never been reported.

I dislike installing dedicated email clients or newsreaders, but that is the only way to make sure such dross stays gone. USENET retains such sh!t forever. Paid for by tax dollars, ultimately.

David A. Smith

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by: jga...@wados.cl - Mon, 30 Oct 2023 15:56 UTC

El Monday, October 30, 2023 a la(s) 10:59:08 AM UTC-3, dlzc escribió:
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 7:14:17 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> > Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?
> Not reliably. Google Groups seems to keep a list of "1000" or so most recent reports you have made, and automagically suppresses those with the hidden-due-to-reported banner. But with the recent floods in three newsgroups I monitor, reported threads in a couple of others have suddenly been revealed. As if they had never been reported.
>
> I dislike installing dedicated email clients or newsreaders, but that is the only way to make sure such dross stays gone. USENET retains such sh!t forever. Paid for by tax dollars, ultimately.
>
> David A. Smith

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Subject	Author
Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Ron Pinkas
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	dop...@gmail.com
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Ron Pinkas
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Ron Pinkas
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Ron Pinkas
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	dlzc
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Ingo Steinbuechel
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	CV
Re: Google group for xHarbour	dlzc
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Ron Pinkas
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Ron Pinkas
Re: Google group for xHarbour	dlzc
Re: Google group for xHarbour	jga...@wados.cl
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Claudio H
Re: Google group for xHarbour	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Google group for xHarbour	dlzc