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Subject: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version
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by: Gary Williams - Thu, 7 Sep 2023 21:34 UTC

Was this feature ever enabled in the commercial version ?

// example
LOCAL Var1 AS CHARACTER
Var1 := 3

seems to compile and run without issue

Any documentation ?

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by: Dan - Fri, 8 Sep 2023 17:14 UTC

Il 07/09/2023 23:34, Gary Williams ha scritto:
> Was this feature ever enabled in the commercial version ?
>
> // example
> LOCAL Var1 AS CHARACTER
> Var1 := 3
>
> seems to compile and run without issue
>
> Any documentation ?
>
There is no strong typing in xBase, And with := you set a variable anew.
If you try Var1 = 3 you should get an error I think

Dan

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by: Ron Pinkas - Fri, 8 Sep 2023 23:16 UTC

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 4:34:20 PM UTC-5, Gary Williams wrote:
> Was this feature ever enabled in the commercial version ?
>
> // example
> LOCAL Var1 AS CHARACTER
> Var1 := 3
>
> seems to compile and run without issue
>
> Any documentation ?
Hi Gary,

The commercial version was always exactly IDENTICAl to the .org - the only difference was the builtin C compiler.

In terms of tying, I wrote this so long ago I don't recall the status exactly but IIRC you have to enable HIGHER WARNING level to enable Compile Time warning for static type conflicts.

Ron

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 07:40 UTC

Il 09/09/2023 01:16, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

> In terms of tying, I wrote this so long ago I don't recall the status exactly but IIRC you have to enable HIGHER WARNING level to enable Compile Time warning for static type conflicts.

I tried with -w3 and got no warning. I suppose type checking is disabled.

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by: Gary Williams - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 16:12 UTC

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 3:40:19 AM UTC-4, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 09/09/2023 01:16, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:
>
> > In terms of tying, I wrote this so long ago I don't recall the status exactly but IIRC you have to enable HIGHER WARNING level to enable Compile Time warning for static type conflicts.
> I tried with -w3 and got no warning. I suppose type checking is disabled.
>
Looking through what Ron uploaded, it seems it has to be enabled and wasn't..
I had forgotten the W3 level, it always threw warnings a variable was not in use, when it clearly was,
finally threw a Q&D checker together for that. There was a commercial Lint checker around the turn of the century,
anybody know a replacement?

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 19:02 UTC

Il 09/09/2023 18:12, Gary Williams ha scritto:

> I had forgotten the W3 level, it always threw warnings a variable was not in use, when it clearly was,

I've used -W3 since the beginning and never found any problem. I could
not use any lower warning level.

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by: Gary Williams - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 01:23 UTC

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 3:40:19 AM UTC-4, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:

> I tried with -w3 and got no warning. I suppose type checking is disabled.

More testing, seems MiniGUI version is compiled with support, but its a run-time error
as compared to the expected compile-time error.

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by: Ron Pinkas - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 01:24 UTC

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 09/09/2023 01:16, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:
>
> > In terms of tying, I wrote this so long ago I don't recall the status exactly but IIRC you have to enable HIGHER WARNING level to enable Compile Time warning for static type conflicts.
> I tried with -w3 and got no warning. I suppose type checking is disabled.
>
> --
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>
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I just checked the sources, and apparently xHarbour has to be compiled with HB_COMP_STRONG_TYPES defined to enable and then W3 or greater.

Ron

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by: Gary Williams - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 01:49 UTC

> I just checked the sources, and apparently xHarbour has to be compiled with HB_COMP_STRONG_TYPES defined to enable and then W3 or greater.
>
> Ron
Thanks for checking Ron,

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 07:44 UTC

Il 10/09/2023 03:24, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

> I just checked the sources, and apparently xHarbour has to be compiled with HB_COMP_STRONG_TYPES defined to enable

Ok, thank you. I prefer not to enable it in the official distribution.

> and then W3 or greater.

Greater? I was not aware there are greater warning levels! I tried -w4
with my programs and found no new warnings. The level -w5 is not
accepted, -w4 seems to be the higher warning level. What is the
difference between -w3 and -w4?

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by: Ron Pinkas - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 14:43 UTC

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 2:44:50 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 10/09/2023 03:24, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:
>
> > I just checked the sources, and apparently xHarbour has to be compiled with HB_COMP_STRONG_TYPES defined to enable
> Ok, thank you. I prefer not to enable it in the official distribution.
> > and then W3 or greater.
> Greater? I was not aware there are greater warning levels! I tried -w4
> with my programs and found no new warnings. The level -w5 is not
> accepted, -w4 seems to be the higher warning level. What is the
> difference between -w3 and -w4?
> --
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>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
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Sadly I no longer remember, but if exists it is likely related to the AdaptiveType/StrongType.

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by: Ron Pinkas - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 14:46 UTC

Yes, I agree - it was strongly coupled with specific PCODE and AFAICT it was not maintained and might not be up to date.

Ron

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 14:47 UTC

Il 10/09/2023 16:43, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

> Sadly I no longer remember, but if exists it is likely related to the AdaptiveType/StrongType.

Ok, thank you. Ron, can you give me write access to the GitHub
repository, please?

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by: Ron Pinkas - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 15:12 UTC

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 9:47:33 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 10/09/2023 16:43, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:
>
> > Sadly I no longer remember, but if exists it is likely related to the AdaptiveType/StrongType.

> Ok, thank you. Ron, can you give me write access to the GitHub
> repository, please?

Done.

FWIW, Here is the current list of ALL Warnings, and their respective level from hbgenerr.c:

const char * hb_comp_szWarnings[] {
"1Ambiguous reference: \'%s\'",
"1Ambiguous reference, assuming memvar: \'%s\'",
"2Variable: \'%s\' declared but not used in function: \'%s\'",
"2Codeblock parameter: \'%s\' declared but not used in function: \'%s\'",
"1RETURN statement with no return value in function",
"1Procedure returns value",
"1Function \'%s\' does not end with RETURN statement",
"3Incompatible type in assignment to: \'%s\' expected: \'%s\'",
"3Incompatible operand type: \'%s\' expected: \'%s\'",
"3Incompatible operand types: \'%s\' and: \'%s\'",
"4Suspicious type in assignment to: \'%s\' expected: \'%s\'",
"4Suspicious operand type: \'unknown\' expected: \'%s\'",
"3Can\'t use array index with non-array",
"3Incompatible return type: \'%s\' expected: \'%s\'",
"4Suspicious return type: \'%s\' expected: \'%s\'",
"3Invalid number of parameters: %s expected: %s",
"3Incompatible parameter: %s expected: \'%s\'",
"4Suspicious parameter: %s expected: \'%s\'",
"3Duplicate declaration of %s \'%s\'",
"3Function \'%s\' conflicting with its declaration",
"3Variable \'%s\' used but never initialized",
"3Value of Variable \'%s\' never used",
"3Incompatible type in assignment to declared array element expected: \'%s\'",
"4Suspicious type in assignment to declared array element expected: \'%s\'",
"3Class \'%s\' not known in declaration of \'%s\'",
"3Message \'%s\' not known in class \'%s\'",
"0Meaningless use of expression: \'%s\'",
"2Unreachable code",
"1Redundant \'ANNOUNCE %s\' statement ignored",
"1STATIC Function \'%s\' defined but never used",
"1Variable \'%s\' is a reserved word",
"3Variable '%s' is assigned but not used in function '%s'",
"3Variable '%s' is never assigned in function '%s'"
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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 15:12 UTC

Il 10/09/2023 16:47, Enrico Maria Giordano ha scritto:

> Ron, can you give me write access to the GitHub
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Thank you! :-)

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 15:15 UTC

Il 10/09/2023 17:12, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

> FWIW, Here is the current list of ALL Warnings, and their respective level from hbgenerr.c:
>
> const char * hb_comp_szWarnings[] =

Very interesting, thank you!

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by: Ron Pinkas - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 15:57 UTC

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:12:28 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 10/09/2023 16:47, Enrico Maria Giordano ha scritto:
>
> > Ron, can you give me write access to the GitHub
> > repository, please?
> Thank you! :-)
> --
> Enrico Maria Giordano
>
> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
I just created an xharbour-org (xHarbour.org) organization on GitHub, transferred the xHarbour repo to xHarbour.org, and gave your ownership role so you can continue as Admin.

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 16:09 UTC

Il 10/09/2023 17:57, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

> I just created an xharbour-org (xHarbour.org) organization on GitHub, transferred the xHarbour repo to xHarbour.org, and gave your ownership role so you can continue as Admin.

Ok, I don't know what it exactly means but thank you! :-)

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by: Ron Pinkas - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 16:12 UTC

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 11:09:13 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 10/09/2023 17:57, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:
>
> > I just created an xharbour-org (xHarbour.org) organization on GitHub, transferred the xHarbour repo to xHarbour.org, and gave your ownership role so you can continue as Admin.
> Ok, I don't know what it exactly means but thank you! :-)

Means you now can give write access yourself. Since you have been the person that maintained the project for last years it seems natural that you continue.

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by: Enrico Maria Giordan - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 17:52 UTC

Il 10/09/2023 18:12, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

> Means you now can give write access yourself. Since you have been the person that maintained the project for last years it seems natural that you continue.

Thank you!

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devel / comp.lang.xharbour / Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version

Subject	Author
Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Gary Williams
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Dan
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Ron Pinkas
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Gary Williams
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Gary Williams
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Ron Pinkas
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Gary Williams
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Ron Pinkas
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Ron Pinkas
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Ron Pinkas
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Ron Pinkas
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Enrico Maria Giordano
Re: Strong variable typing in xharbour commercial version	Ron Pinkas