Hi All,

This is to inform you that the xHarbour SourceForge repository has been ported with History to GitHub -> https://github.com/ronpinkas/xharbour

I was not able to set all contributors emails, and contributors should have a GitHub account with respective email to be credited for their contributions. Should any contributor require assistance please feel welcome to contact me.

Developers that wish to contribute, please contact me to get Write Access, and/or Admin access rights if applicable.

For what its worth I believe the Harbour project: https://github.com/harbour/core may provide a better solution due to much improved core code. While it does not offer all of xHarbour's features and extensions, it does provide optional support for most extensions by means of the contrib/xhb module.

In the alternate, should any developer[s] wish to bring xHarbour up to date I would recommend forking Harbour and reimplementing remaining xHarbour's unique features on top of Harbour's cleaner code base.

Greetings,

Ron

FWIW, I hope to soon release as open source: xEdit, xBuild, and WinAPI including wrappers to set Functions and Methods as direct Windows Callback pointers.
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 1:39:25 AM UTC-5, Ron Pinkas wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> This is to inform you that the xHarbour SourceForge repository has been ported with History to GitHub -> https://github.com/ronpinkas/xharbour
>
> I was not able to set all contributors emails, and contributors should have a GitHub account with respective email to be credited for their contributions. Should any contributor require assistance please feel welcome to contact me.
>
> Developers that wish to contribute, please contact me to get Write Access, and/or Admin access rights if applicable.
>
> For what its worth I believe the Harbour project: https://github.com/harbour/core may provide a better solution due to much improved core code. While it does not offer all of xHarbour's features and extensions, it does provide optional support for most extensions by means of the contrib/xhb module..
>
> In the alternate, should any developer[s] wish to bring xHarbour up to date I would recommend forking Harbour and reimplementing remaining xHarbour's unique features on top of Harbour's cleaner code base.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Ron

Fantastic Ron.

Will SQLRDD also be open source?

Il 09/04/2023 08:39, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

> Hi All,
>
> This is to inform you that the xHarbour SourceForge repository has been ported with History to GitHub -> https://github.com/ronpinkas/xharbour

I changed the Changelog url in xharbour.org to reflect the new one. But
I noticed one difference in the id section at the very top of the file:

/*
* $Id: ChangeLog 10269 2022-11-18 22:32:16Z enricomaria $
*/

is now empty:

/*
* $Id$
*/

How to fix it?

> For what its worth I believe the Harbour project: https://github.com/harbour/core may provide a better solution due to much improved core code. While it does not offer all of xHarbour's features and extensions, it does provide optional support for most extensions by means of the contrib/xhb module.
>
> In the alternate, should any developer[s] wish to bring xHarbour up to date I would recommend forking Harbour and reimplementing remaining xHarbour's unique features on top of Harbour's cleaner code base.

I don't think there is still anybody that is able or willing to do that
work (a lot of work!). :-(

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:14:08 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 09/04/2023 08:39, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This is to inform you that the xHarbour SourceForge repository has been ported with History to GitHub -> https://github.com/ronpinkas/xharbour
> I changed the Changelog url in xharbour.org to reflect the new one. But
> I noticed one difference in the id section at the very top of the file:
>
> /*
> * $Id: ChangeLog 10269 2022-11-18 22:32:16Z enricomaria $
> */
>
> is now empty:
>
> /*
> * $Id$
> */
>
> How to fix it?

I am not sure.

> > For what its worth I believe the Harbour project: https://github.com/harbour/core may provide a better solution due to much improved core code. While it does not offer all of xHarbour's features and extensions, it does provide optional support for most extensions by means of the contrib/xhb module.
> >
> > In the alternate, should any developer[s] wish to bring xHarbour up to date I would recommend forking Harbour and reimplementing remaining xHarbour's unique features on top of Harbour's cleaner code base.
> I don't think there is still anybody that is able or willing to do that
> work (a lot of work!). :-(

If some will have strong need or preference - where there is a will there is a way. :)

Ron

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:02:51 AM UTC-5, Eduardo Motta wrote:
> Fantastic Ron.
>
> Will SQLRDD also be open source?

SQLRDD is not my code, and it is still in commercial use by its owner.

> I changed the Changelog url in xharbour.org to reflect the new one. But
> I noticed one difference in the id section at the very top of the file:
>
> /*
> * $Id: ChangeLog 10269 2022-11-18 22:32:16Z enricomaria $
> */
>
> is now empty:
>
> /*
> * $Id$
> */
>
> How to fix it?

I have no clue. :)

> > For what its worth I believe the Harbour project: https://github.com/harbour/core may provide a better solution due to much improved core code. While it does not offer all of xHarbour's features and extensions, it does provide optional support for most extensions by means of the contrib/xhb module.
> >
> > In the alternate, should any developer[s] wish to bring xHarbour up to date I would recommend forking Harbour and reimplementing remaining xHarbour's unique features on top of Harbour's cleaner code base.
> I don't think there is still anybody that is able or willing to do that
> work (a lot of work!). :-(

Where there's a will there's a way. :)

Ron

Il 10/04/2023 17:34, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

>> I changed the Changelog url in xharbour.org to reflect the new one. But
>> I noticed one difference in the id section at the very top of the file:
>>
>> /*
>> * $Id: ChangeLog 10269 2022-11-18 22:32:16Z enricomaria $
>> */
>>
>> is now empty:
>>
>> /*
>> * $Id$
>> */
>>
>> How to fix it?
>
> I have no clue. :)

Ok. :-(

>> I don't think there is still anybody that is able or willing to do that
>> work (a lot of work!). :-(
>
> Where there's a will there's a way. :)

Of course.

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

El lunes, 10 de abril de 2023 a la(s) 12:29:26 UTC-3, Ron Pinkas escribió:
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:02:51 AM UTC-5, Eduardo Motta wrote:
> > Fantastic Ron.
> >
> > Will SQLRDD also be open source?
> SQLRDD is not my code, and it is still in commercial use by its owner.

Hi Ron

Thank you for porting it.

The rdd "RMDBFCDX" is owned by xharbour.com, should it be available in this repo or will be kept maintained private?
As a regular user of xharbour.com, I used it in some apps; my main concern is about the future.

Regards,
--
Claudio Voskian
Buenos Aires - Argentina

Hi Claudio,

> The rdd "RMDBFCDX" is owned by xharbour.com, should it be available in this repo or will be kept maintained private?
> As a regular user of xharbour.com, I used it in some apps; my main concern is about the future.

I just spoke to Patrick, and I am happy to announce that we have decided to release ALL of xHarbour.com's proprietary sources (including Visual[x]Harbour, and RMDBFCDX) to Open Source. Please note that SQLRDD is not owned by xHarbour.com so it is excluded.

Ron

Em quinta-feira, 13 de abril de 2023 às 16:02:01 UTC-3, Ron Pinkas escreveu:
> Hi Claudio,
> > The rdd "RMDBFCDX" is owned by xharbour.com, should it be available in this repo or will be kept maintained private?
> > As a regular user of xharbour.com, I used it in some apps; my main concern is about the future.
> I just spoke to Patrick, and I am happy to announce that we have decided to release ALL of xHarbour.com's proprietary sources (including Visual[x]Harbour, and RMDBFCDX) to Open Source. Please note that SQLRDD is not owned by xHarbour.com so it is excluded.
>
> Ron

Great news Ron.

Have you had the opportunity to talk to Lombardo about the release of SQLRDD or haven't you talked to him yet?

Eduardo Motta

> /*
> * $Id: ChangeLog 10269 2022-11-18 22:32:16Z enricomaria $
> */
>
> is now empty:
>
> /*
> * $Id$
> */
>
> How to fix it?

FWIW I just moved /xharbour/* to the root to avoid redundancy. So you might need to revise natch files, etc.

> Have you had the opportunity to talk to Lombardo about the release of SQLRDD or haven't you talked to him yet?

We have a talk scheduled for later this eve, but to be honest I think this is not very likely because Marcelo has a very successful company built around his SQLRDD.

Ron

Em quinta-feira, 13 de abril de 2023 às 16:55:06 UTC-3, Ron Pinkas escreveu:
> > Have you had the opportunity to talk to Lombardo about the release of SQLRDD or haven't you talked to him yet?
> We have a talk scheduled for later this eve, but to be honest I think this is not very likely because Marcelo has a very successful company built around his SQLRDD.
>
> Ron

I know Omie.

Lombardo is a reference.

> > Have you had the opportunity to talk to Lombardo about the release of SQLRDD or haven't you talked to him yet?

> We have a talk scheduled for later this eve, but to be honest I think this is not very likely because Marcelo has a very successful company built around his SQLRDD.

I Just spoke to Marcelo and he agreed to release SQLRDD as open source - so I will upload that too.

Ron

Enrico,

> /*
> * $Id: ChangeLog 10269 2022-11-18 22:32:16Z enricomaria $
> */
>
> is now empty:
>
> /*
> * $Id$
> */
>
> How to fix it?

I found out that git does not support version control in that way, instead it can expand $Id$ to a hash of the commit. I did enable it and found that the build was failing because ppgen.c was expecting the OLD stile $Id tag. I am importing such modifications from Harbour, but it also entails many file related sources to be moved from source/rtl to source/common. I am working on this commit but it may take some time.

Ron

Em quinta-feira, 13 de abril de 2023 às 19:20:46 UTC-3, Ron Pinkas escreveu:
> > > Have you had the opportunity to talk to Lombardo about the release of SQLRDD or haven't you talked to him yet?
>
> > We have a talk scheduled for later this eve, but to be honest I think this is not very likely because Marcelo has a very successful company built around his SQLRDD.
> I Just spoke to Marcelo and he agreed to release SQLRDD as open source - so I will upload that too.
>
> Ron

Ron this is amazing!

thank you so much to all of you for what you have done for the community.

When it's available on github please let me know.

> > The rdd "RMDBFCDX" is owned by xharbour.com, should it be available in this repo or will be kept maintained private?
> > As a regular user of xharbour.com, I used it in some apps; my main concern is about the future.
> I just spoke to Patrick, and I am happy to announce that we have decided to release ALL of xHarbour.com's proprietary sources (including Visual[x]Harbour, and RMDBFCDX) to Open Source. Please note that SQLRDD is not owned by xHarbour.com so it is excluded.

Thrilled to see all these wonderful tools being released on GitHub, allowing developers everywhere to utilize and improve them.

Patrick

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:49:51 PM UTC+3, Patrick Mast wrote:
> > > The rdd "RMDBFCDX" is owned by xharbour.com, should it be available in this repo or will be kept maintained private?
> > > As a regular user of xharbour.com, I used it in some apps; my main concern is about the future.
> > I just spoke to Patrick, and I am happy to announce that we have decided to release ALL of xHarbour.com's proprietary sources (including Visual[x]Harbour, and RMDBFCDX) to Open Source. Please note that SQLRDD is not owned by xHarbour.com so it is excluded.
> Thrilled to see all these wonderful tools being released on GitHub, allowing developers everywhere to utilize and improve them.
>
> Patrick

I'm glad to hear such good news. I hope to find there VRW as well.

Ella

> I'm glad to hear such good news. I hope to find there VRW as well.

The start of it, yes.

😀

Patrick

> > How to fix it?

> I found out that git does not support version control in that way, instead it can expand $Id$ to a hash of the commit. I did enable it and found that the build was failing because ppgen.c was expecting the OLD stile $Id tag.. I am importing such modifications from Harbour, but it also entails many file related sources to be moved from source/rtl to source/common. I am working on this commit but it may take some time.
>

I just temporarily hacked the ChangeLog $Id to the last one used by SVN just to allow me to build cleanly without modifications to the ported sources, so I could confirm we are ok. I am currently using MacOS so I had to commit few fixes, and we can now use make_drw.sh to build correctly.

I will now start fixing ppgen to use the git generated $Id.

Ron

> I will now start fixing ppgen to use the git generated $Id.

2023-04-15 00:52 UTC-0500 Ron Pinkas <ronpinkas/AT/gmail/com>
* source/pp/ppgen.c
* Modified to process new ChangeLog header after port to GIT from SVN

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 2:19:02 AM UTC+3, Patrick Mast wrote:
> > I'm glad to hear such good news. I hope to find there VRW as well.
> The start of it, yes.
>
> 😀
>
> Patrick

Thank you Patrick :-)

Il 15/04/2023 08:42, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

>> I will now start fixing ppgen to use the git generated $Id.
>
> 2023-04-15 00:52 UTC-0500 Ron Pinkas <ronpinkas/AT/gmail/com>
> * source/pp/ppgen.c
> * Modified to process new ChangeLog header after port to GIT from SVN

The changelog still starts with

/*
* $Id$
*/

Do we have to wait the next commit for seeing the new Id?

--
Enrico Maria Giordano

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 2:54:14 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 15/04/2023 08:42, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:
>
> >> I will now start fixing ppgen to use the git generated $Id.
> >
> > 2023-04-15 00:52 UTC-0500 Ron Pinkas <ronpinkas/AT/gmail/com>
> > * source/pp/ppgen.c
> > * Modified to process new ChangeLog header after port to GIT from SVN
> The changelog still starts with
>
> /*
> * $Id$
> */
>
> Do we have to wait the next commit for seeing the new Id?
> --
>
No, it's a subtlty og GIT because you had it from before the tag. Remove your repository and clone it again, or ar the root just type git checkout ChangeLog