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 by: steve g - Mon, 24 Oct 2022 22:12 UTC

n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, world!
>
> I'm a non-techy user, or at least a non-programmer, but I picked up a
> little bit of Lisp when I was about 16, and now, not really having much to
> do besides day trade, I got into it again. I got the Open Genera distro
> running---and, to my shock, I LIKED IT.
>
congrats! open genera not on a dec?

> The thing is, though, that Open Genera hasn't been worked on since 1985 or
> thereabouts, and its assets are all tied up in probate as we all know, but
> hypothetically, if it were GPL'ed, from what I've seen, it's cooler than
> Linux. I wouldn't mind having it as a primary operating system, actually.
> Hypothetically, could it be made to run natively? I think it would make
> a fine single-user operating system (Linux is fine for big installations)
> especially with the ability to EDIT CODE WHILE IT RUNS. I mean, I had to
> capitalise that, because even to someone growing up in the age of pocket
> Androids, that sounds impossible.

yes i have the machine with the code;
the lisp machine needs to compile the code to start up. it takes a while.
the JIT (Just In Time) compiler for java was ``probably'' inspired by lisp
(please no arguments here).
> Sure, the UX needs polishing, and it doesn't even have a Web browser, but
> from what I've seen, Genera is not a development environment as everyone
> calls it---it's a fully fledged operating system, an Emacs writ large.
> It's a compliment, even though I HATE EMACS.
Yes genera is an operating system that runs on a lisp machine or the dec
alpha. I here it can also work with an Intel ix686 running X11 on linux
v1.2.9 over the funky serial port or the external SCSI interface. I wish I
had the money to buy that kind of hardware today. stuck with labtops.

unix is solid, powerful, and still used. my rig is tired an needs a new
place to migrate.

> That's another thing---anyone got a modern Gnu Emacs port for Genera, one
> that'll run Evil or Vile? I'm straining my pinky and it hurts!

for genera it comes with Zemacs or something. It is the active listener. it
has been a while since i've turned it on.

genera runs on the dec alpha with x11 I believe. I would love to see
something with the linux frame buffer instead of X. one a full tty it would
work very simply with linux I think. lots of time i don't have...

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