Dear All,

Needs a decent browser, JavaScript >2015

http://www.dogelog.ch/

Currently swallows errors silently. Everything written
in Prolog itself, read/1, consult/1, etc.. and then cross
compiled into JavaScript. Not sure whether it can already

compile itself. But it has a text field and can add the
clauses in the text field and execute the directives in the
text field, and it has write/1 and nl/0 into the HTML document.

More care for the good boy upcoming.

Have Fun!

Jan Burse, 24.05.2021 #StaySafe
http://www.jekejeke.ch/

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 5:18:42 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Needs a decent browser, JavaScript >2015
>
> http://www.dogelog.ch/
>
> Currently swallows errors silently. Everything written
> in Prolog itself, read/1, consult/1, etc.. and then cross
> compiled into JavaScript. Not sure whether it can already
>
> compile itself. But it has a text field and can add the
> clauses in the text field and execute the directives in the
> text field, and it has write/1 and nl/0 into the HTML document.
>
> More care for the good boy upcoming.
>
> Have Fun!

I'm a fan of Prolog but I think this is off-topic for the group.

Hi,

Nope, its not off topic.

Its a Javascript library, that you can embed in your
application. Documentation will be soon out. The
Javascript library, for the demonstration uses clear()

and consult() mainly, for example the "try it" button calls:

function main() {
document.getElementById("demo").innerHTML = "";
clear();
let text=document.getElementById("text").value;
consult(text);
}

The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102

Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues

Bye

Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 5:18:42 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Needs a decent browser, JavaScript >2015
>>
>> http://www.dogelog.ch/
>>
>> Currently swallows errors silently. Everything written
>> in Prolog itself, read/1, consult/1, etc.. and then cross
>> compiled into JavaScript. Not sure whether it can already
>>
>> compile itself. But it has a text field and can add the
>> clauses in the text field and execute the directives in the
>> text field, and it has write/1 and nl/0 into the HTML document.
>>
>> More care for the good boy upcoming.
>>
>> Have Fun!
>
>
> I'm a fan of Prolog but I think this is off-topic for the group.
>

Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
> I'm a fan of Prolog but I think this is off-topic for the group.

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 2:34:20 AM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Nope, its not off topic.
>
> Its a Javascript library, that you can embed in your
> application. Documentation will be soon out. The
> Javascript library, for the demonstration uses clear()
>
> and consult() mainly, for example the "try it" button calls:
>
>
> function main() {
> document.getElementById("demo").innerHTML = "";
> clear();
> let text=document.getElementById("text").value;
> consult(text);
> }
>
> The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
> https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102
>
> Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
> https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues

Just because something is implemented with JavaScript
doesn't make it on topic by itself, especially if you just present
the final product without commentary why it's relevant.

If you actually posted about the implementation (questions or comments)
like you are *almost* doing here, then it would be.

What you have is a drive-by link with little more. Why should the
collective *we* as a group care? Is Prolog the point or is how you
accomplished it the point? If it's the former than it's off-topic
if it's the latter then you should share more details when you
post about it here.

Ha Ha, normally I don't feed resident trolls.

Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
> Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
>> I'm a fan of Prolog but I think this is off-topic for the group.
>
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 2:34:20 AM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Nope, its not off topic.
>>
>> Its a Javascript library, that you can embed in your
>> application. Documentation will be soon out. The
>> Javascript library, for the demonstration uses clear()
>>
>> and consult() mainly, for example the "try it" button calls:
>>
>>
>> function main() {
>> document.getElementById("demo").innerHTML = "";
>> clear();
>> let text=document.getElementById("text").value;
>> consult(text);
>> }
>>
>> The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
>> https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102
>>
>> Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
>> https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues
>
> Just because something is implemented with JavaScript
> doesn't make it on topic by itself, especially if you just present
> the final product without commentary why it's relevant.
>
> If you actually posted about the implementation (questions or comments)
> like you are *almost* doing here, then it would be.
>
> What you have is a drive-by link with little more. Why should the
> collective *we* as a group care? Is Prolog the point or is how you
> accomplished it the point? If it's the former than it's off-topic
> if it's the latter then you should share more details when you
> post about it here.
>

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 11:35:23 AM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Ha Ha, normally I don't feed resident trolls.

But how will you live if you don't eat?

Well if you were knowledgable in JavaScript,
you wouldn't write nonsense like:
> What you have is a drive-by link with little more.

You can use view source to see the initial
javascript and then follow the javascript files
loaded there, to inspect all of the javascript

that is stored on the server side, and loaded
into the client agent, the browser. Also I
posted these links:

> The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
>
https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102

> Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
> https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues

Also the thread starts with "ANN", which means
announcements. Its usually considered bad netiquet
spamming announcements with nonsense like you did.

Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 11:35:23 AM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>> Ha Ha, normally I don't feed resident trolls.
>
> But how will you live if you don't eat?
>

Conclusion:

Shut the fuck up and take your meds asshole.
By asshole I mean you moron
Michael Haufe (TNO) <tno@thenewobjective.com>

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> Well if you were knowledgable in JavaScript,
> you wouldn't write nonsense like:
> > What you have is a drive-by link with little more.
>
> You can use view source to see the initial
> javascript and then follow the javascript files
> loaded there, to inspect all of the javascript
>
> that is stored on the server side, and loaded
> into the client agent, the browser. Also I
> posted these links:
>
> > The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
> >
> https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102
>
>
> > Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
> > https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues
>
> Also the thread starts with "ANN", which means
> announcements. Its usually considered bad netiquet
> spamming announcements with nonsense like you did.
>
> Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 11:35:23 AM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>>> Ha Ha, normally I don't feed resident trolls.
>>
>> But how will you live if you don't eat?
>>
>

And maybe update your shitty website:
https://thenewobjective.com/about

I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
Also the font size is way too large, cant
read anything without getting headache.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> Conclusion:
>
> Shut the fuck up and take your meds asshole.
> By asshole I mean you moron
> Michael Haufe (TNO) <tno@thenewobjective.com>
>
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
>> Well if you were knowledgable in JavaScript,
>> you wouldn't write nonsense like:
>>  > What you have is a drive-by link with little more.
>>
>> You can use view source to see the initial
>> javascript and then follow the javascript files
>> loaded there, to inspect all of the javascript
>>
>> that is stored on the server side, and loaded
>> into the client agent, the browser. Also I
>> posted these links:
>>
>>  > The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
>>  >
>> https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102
>>
>>
>>  > Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
>>  > https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues
>>
>> Also the thread starts with "ANN", which means
>> announcements. Its usually considered bad netiquet
>> spamming announcements with nonsense like you did.
>>
>> Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 11:35:23 AM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>>>> Ha Ha, normally I don't feed resident trolls.
>>>
>>> But how will you live if you don't eat?
>>>
>>
>

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:34:39 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> And maybe update your shitty website:
> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>
> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
> Also the font size is way too large, cant
> read anything without getting headache.

Then don't read it.

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:30:41 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Conclusion:
>
> Shut the fuck up and take your meds asshole.
> By asshole I mean you moron

Like I said before: Grow up, your ego is bruised for no good reason and you're just lashing out.

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:29:08 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Well if you were knowledgable in JavaScript,
> you wouldn't write nonsense like:
> > What you have is a drive-by link with little more.
> You can use view source to see the initial
> javascript and then follow the javascript files
> loaded there, to inspect all of the javascript

I could but why bother? If you're going to announce you can present it better and get more productive discussion, unlike this spiraling thread of noise.

> that is stored on the server side, and loaded
> into the client agent, the browser. Also I
> posted these links:
> > The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
> >
> https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102
>
> > Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
> > https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues

Yes, but break it down for us if you actually want anyone to engage.

> Also the thread starts with "ANN", which means
> announcements. Its usually considered bad netiquet
> spamming announcements with nonsense like you did.

Says the person who engages in ad-hominem attacks.

Then dont comment on Dogelog.

You wrote:
>> The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
>>
>
https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102

>
>> Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
>> https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues

> Yes, but break it down for us if you actually want anyone to engage.

You are not among the ones who want to
engange, so why should I bother? Or do
you have some substantial question

except for your continuing confusion?

Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:34:39 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>> And maybe update your shitty website:
>> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>>
>> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
>> Also the font size is way too large, cant
>> read anything without getting headache.
>
> Then don't read it.
>

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:47:17 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Then dont comment on Dogelog.
> [...]
> You are not among the ones who want to
> engange, so why should I bother? Or do
> you have some substantial question
>
> except for your continuing confusion?

And yet I'm the only person who's bothered to talk to you on this in good faith initially.
If you choose to remain defensive and toxic then there is no reason for me or anyone else to engage.

Also it says "ANN", which means announcement.
It doesn't say "request for comments".

if you want discuss something, better
open a separate thread and state what you
want to discuss.

Meanwhile:

We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff
Apollo 11 Blasts Off Into Space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9qSGETxlkY

Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon
http://www.dogelog.ch/

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> Then dont comment on Dogelog.
>
> You wrote:
> >> The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
> >>
> >
> https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102
>
> >
> >> Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
> >> https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues
>
> > Yes, but break it down for us if you actually want anyone to engage.
>
> You are not among the ones who want to
> engange, so why should I bother? Or do
> you have some substantial question
>
> except for your continuing confusion?
>
> Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:34:39 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>>> And maybe update your shitty website:
>>> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>>>
>>> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
>>> Also the font size is way too large, cant
>>> read anything without getting headache.
>>
>> Then don't read it.
>>
>

Maybe the younger generation doesn't know
the concept of announcement? I have no
clue whats wrong with you? I am not toxic.

The only toxic thing here was your spamming
of my announcement. And the discussion
now reveals that you have totally wrong

expectations about ANN, and see it
maybe as "request for comments" and
you draw in group engagement etc... I

cannot help you and only tell you again
and again that it is what it is. It is an
ANN, aka announcement. Nothing more and

nothing less. if you want discuss something,
better open a separate thread and state
what you want to discuss.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> Also it says "ANN", which means announcement.
> It doesn't say "request for comments".
>
> if you want discuss something, better
> open a separate thread and state what you
> want to discuss.
>
> Meanwhile:
>
> We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff
> Apollo 11 Blasts Off Into Space
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9qSGETxlkY
>
> Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon
> http://www.dogelog.ch/
>
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
>> Then dont comment on Dogelog.
>>
>> You wrote:
>>  >> The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
>>  >>
>>  >
>> https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102
>>
>>  >
>>  >> Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
>>  >> https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues
>>
>>  > Yes, but break it down for us if you actually want anyone to engage.
>>
>> You are not among the ones who want to
>> engange, so why should I bother? Or do
>> you have some substantial question
>>
>> except for your continuing confusion?
>>
>> Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:34:39 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>>>> And maybe update your shitty website:
>>>> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>>>>
>>>> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
>>>> Also the font size is way too large, cant
>>>> read anything without getting headache.
>>>
>>> Then don't read it.
>>>
>>
>

The problem is, the matter can become
complex, and therefore its probably
better open a separate thread.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> Maybe the younger generation doesn't know
> the concept of announcement? I have no
> clue whats wrong with you? I am not toxic.
>
> The only toxic thing here was your spamming
> of my announcement. And the discussion
> now reveals that you have totally wrong
>
> expectations about ANN, and see it
> maybe as "request for comments" and
> you draw in group engagement etc... I
>
> cannot help you and only tell you again
> and again that it is what it is. It is an
> ANN, aka announcement. Nothing more and
>
> nothing less. if you want discuss something,
> better open a separate thread and state
> what you want to discuss.
>
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
>> Also it says "ANN", which means announcement.
>> It doesn't say "request for comments".
>>
>> if you want discuss something, better
>> open a separate thread and state what you
>> want to discuss.
>>
>> Meanwhile:
>>
>> We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff
>> Apollo 11 Blasts Off Into Space
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9qSGETxlkY
>>
>> Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon
>> http://www.dogelog.ch/
>>
>> Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
>>> Then dont comment on Dogelog.
>>>
>>> You wrote:
>>>  >> The approach of the cross compiler is documented here:
>>>  >>
>>>  >
>>> https://gist.github.com/jburse/afeaeffc4ffb68d7bc785a86182cd09f#gistcomment-3753102
>>>
>>>  >
>>>  >> Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
>>>  >> https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues
>>>
>>>  > Yes, but break it down for us if you actually want anyone to engage.
>>>
>>> You are not among the ones who want to
>>> engange, so why should I bother? Or do
>>> you have some substantial question
>>>
>>> except for your continuing confusion?
>>>
>>> Michael Haufe (TNO) schrieb:
>>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:34:39 PM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>>>>> And maybe update your shitty website:
>>>>> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
>>>>> Also the font size is way too large, cant
>>>>> read anything without getting headache.
>>>>
>>>> Then don't read it.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

On 2021-05-25, Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Maybe the younger generation doesn't know
> the concept of announcement? I have no
> clue whats wrong with you? I am not toxic.

You seem pretty toxic to be honest. The announcement wasn't very helpful
as it contained no clue whatsoever as to what it was announcing.
I surmised it might be something to do with crypto coins and ignored it.

Nobody cares.

Jon Ribbens schrieb:
> On 2021-05-25, Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> Maybe the younger generation doesn't know
>> the concept of announcement? I have no
>> clue whats wrong with you? I am not toxic.
>
> You seem pretty toxic to be honest. The announcement wasn't very helpful
> as it contained no clue whatsoever as to what it was announcing.
> I surmised it might be something to do with crypto coins and ignored it.
>

This is an announcement. Its not a request
for comments, also not for the choice of
the name dogelog or anything related to dogelog.

Open a separate thread if you want to
discuss anything seriously. Or use GitHub
if you want to open a ticket about dogelog:

Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues

Most of the dogelog issues have a tag JavaScript.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> Nobody cares.
>
> Jon Ribbens schrieb:
>> On 2021-05-25, Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>> Maybe the younger generation doesn't know
>>> the concept of announcement? I have no
>>> clue whats wrong with you? I am not toxic.
>>
>> You seem pretty toxic to be honest. The announcement wasn't very helpful
>> as it contained no clue whatsoever as to what it was announcing.
>> I surmised it might be something to do with crypto coins and ignored it.
>>
>

You can imagine an announcement as a
pointer into a new world. Partially on-topic
and partially off-topic.

I agree that discussing too much Prolog
here might be off-topic. But dogelog
is admittedly interwoven with both

worlds. So if you use GitHub you will
be always welcome and on-topic. If you
start posting here, your question

might be frowned on. Basically on
Usenet you would have two choices:
- comp.lang.javascript
- comp.lang.prolog

So better use GitHub.

Thanks in advance.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> This is an announcement. Its not a request
> for comments, also not for the choice of
> the name dogelog or anything related to dogelog.
>
> Open a separate thread if you want to
> discuss anything seriously. Or use GitHub
> if you want to open a ticket about dogelog:
>
> Source code and tickets about Dogelog will be collected here:
> https://github.com/jburse/jekejeke-samples/issues
>
> Most of the dogelog issues have a tag JavaScript.
>
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
>> Nobody cares.
>>
>> Jon Ribbens schrieb:
>>> On 2021-05-25, Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>> Maybe the younger generation doesn't know
>>>> the concept of announcement? I have no
>>>> clue whats wrong with you? I am not toxic.
>>>
>>> You seem pretty toxic to be honest. The announcement wasn't very helpful
>>> as it contained no clue whatsoever as to what it was announcing.
>>> I surmised it might be something to do with crypto coins and ignored it.
>>>
>>
>

Mostowski Collapse wrote:

> And maybe update your shitty website:
> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>
> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
> Also the font size is way too large, cant
> read anything without getting headache.

Nothing wrong with his website. You don't like it, so what.

Nothing wrong with the name Dogelog,
Jon Ribbens doesn't like it, so what.

Mark- schrieb:
> Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>
>> And maybe update your shitty website:
>> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>>
>> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
>> Also the font size is way too large, cant
>> read anything without getting headache.
>
> Nothing wrong with his website. You don't like it, so what.
>

Hint, if you want to make websites that work
on mobile and desktop, there are other
approaches than just having elephant font size.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> Nothing wrong with the name Dogelog,
> Jon Ribbens doesn't like it, so what.
>
> Mark- schrieb:
>> Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>>
>>> And maybe update your shitty website:
>>> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>>>
>>> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
>>> Also the font size is way too large, cant
>>> read anything without getting headache.
>>
>> Nothing wrong with his website. You don't like it, so what.
>>
>

Same holds for this website:
https://www.defprogramming.com/authors/

Its rather a horrible website, can read anything
unless you have your browser page occupying the
whole screen. It does some rescaling

but I guess it needs some fine tuning. At
least on an MacBook Air 2019 with Safari
browser its not usable.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
>
> Hint, if you want to make websites that work
> on mobile and desktop, there are other
> approaches than just having elephant font size.
>
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
>> Nothing wrong with the name Dogelog,
>> Jon Ribbens doesn't like it, so what.
>>
>> Mark- schrieb:
>>> Mostowski Collapse wrote:
>>>
>>>> And maybe update your shitty website:
>>>> https://thenewobjective.com/about
>>>>
>>>> I have never seen a more sadenning thing.
>>>> Also the font size is way too large, cant
>>>> read anything without getting headache.
>>>
>>> Nothing wrong with his website. You don't like it, so what.
>>>
>>
>