On 14-12-2021 11:46 pm, Mel Smith wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 1:52:05 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
>> Il 14/12/2021 05:05, Mel Smith ha scritto:
>>
>>> Well I et the UAC setting to 0 in both machines, and I still get 'access denied' .
>> Did you restart both PC?
>> EMG
>>
>> http://www.emagsoftware.it
>> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
>> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
>> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
>
> Yes, It was a forced option anyway.
> Still no joy, and am resigned to not accessing my little win 7 machine from Win 10.
> I've gone over several additional 'fixes' from different people around the world who wish to do the same as me.
> One guy uses his older Win 7 machine as a backup machine. Then, after a Win 10 upgrade, he was no longer able to back up from his Win 10 to his Win 7 on his LAN.
> Almost the identical problem I have !
> I followed his 'fix' (very long and laborious), but it didn't work for me.
> The problem here is most (or all ?) of you have no working and active Win 7 machine on your local LAN with a Win 10 peer machine.
> And therefore you are not able to confirm the reality of your suggestions.
> btw, my Win 7 machine is Win 7 Pro. Version 6.1.7601, Build 7601
> Anyway, thank you all for thoughts
> Like a turtle, I'll now pull my head inside my shell for awhile.
>
> -Mel
Hi Mel,

I still maintain there is some permission issue or such other.

I have multiple networks with Win 10 and Win 7 communicating with each
other without any problem. Initially, of course, I also faced many
problems but were eventually solved.

Warm regards,

Jayadev

On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 6:22:56 AM UTC-7, Jayadev U wrote:
> On 14-12-2021 11:46 pm, Mel Smith wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 1:52:05 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> >> Il 14/12/2021 05:05, Mel Smith ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> Well I et the UAC setting to 0 in both machines, and I still get 'access denied' .
> >> Did you restart both PC?
> >> EMG
> >>
> >> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> >> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> >> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> >> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
> >
> > Yes, It was a forced option anyway.
> > Still no joy, and am resigned to not accessing my little win 7 machine from Win 10.
> > I've gone over several additional 'fixes' from different people around the world who wish to do the same as me.
> > One guy uses his older Win 7 machine as a backup machine. Then, after a Win 10 upgrade, he was no longer able to back up from his Win 10 to his Win 7 on his LAN.
> > Almost the identical problem I have !
> > I followed his 'fix' (very long and laborious), but it didn't work for me.
> > The problem here is most (or all ?) of you have no working and active Win 7 machine on your local LAN with a Win 10 peer machine.
> > And therefore you are not able to confirm the reality of your suggestions.
> > btw, my Win 7 machine is Win 7 Pro. Version 6.1.7601, Build 7601
> > Anyway, thank you all for thoughts
> > Like a turtle, I'll now pull my head inside my shell for awhile.
> >
> > -Mel
> Hi Mel,
>
> I still maintain there is some permission issue or such other.
>
> I have multiple networks with Win 10 and Win 7 communicating with each
> other without any problem. Initially, of course, I also faced many
> problems but were eventually solved.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Jayadev
Hi Jayadev:
Thank you for your (private) offer this morning.
I am able to access with full access rights just *one* folder on my win 7 machine (c:\amyuni).

I would like to know how this particular sub-directory (amyuni)is easily accessible, but others are not.

I have visited amyuni->properties->security->permissions, and noted that the permissions 'seem' the same as at least two other folders.
I can read and copy files from the Win 7 c:\users\ sub-dir, but cannot copy file *to* the Win 7 c:\users\ folder (access denied)/

Thanks again for your offer. If there is some 'permission' steps you can suggest, I'll try them.

Frustrating !.

-Mel

On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 3:19:23 PM UTC-7, Mel Smith wrote:
> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 6:22:56 AM UTC-7, Jayadev U wrote:
> > On 14-12-2021 11:46 pm, Mel Smith wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 1:52:05 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> > >> Il 14/12/2021 05:05, Mel Smith ha scritto:
> > >>
> > >>> Well I et the UAC setting to 0 in both machines, and I still get 'access denied' .
> > >> Did you restart both PC?
> > >> EMG
> > >>
> > >> http://www.emagsoftware.it
> > >> http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
> > >> http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
> > >> http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
> > >
> > > Yes, It was a forced option anyway.
> > > Still no joy, and am resigned to not accessing my little win 7 machine from Win 10.
> > > I've gone over several additional 'fixes' from different people around the world who wish to do the same as me.
> > > One guy uses his older Win 7 machine as a backup machine. Then, after a Win 10 upgrade, he was no longer able to back up from his Win 10 to his Win 7 on his LAN.
> > > Almost the identical problem I have !
> > > I followed his 'fix' (very long and laborious), but it didn't work for me.
> > > The problem here is most (or all ?) of you have no working and active Win 7 machine on your local LAN with a Win 10 peer machine.
> > > And therefore you are not able to confirm the reality of your suggestions.
> > > btw, my Win 7 machine is Win 7 Pro. Version 6.1.7601, Build 7601
> > > Anyway, thank you all for thoughts
> > > Like a turtle, I'll now pull my head inside my shell for awhile.
> > >
> > > -Mel
> > Hi Mel,
> >
> > I still maintain there is some permission issue or such other.
> >
> > I have multiple networks with Win 10 and Win 7 communicating with each
> > other without any problem. Initially, of course, I also faced many
> > problems but were eventually solved.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Jayadev
> Hi Jayadev:
> Thank you for your (private) offer this morning.
> I am able to access with full access rights just *one* folder on my win 7 machine (c:\amyuni).
>
> I would like to know how this particular sub-directory (amyuni)is easily accessible, but others are not.
>
> I have visited amyuni->properties->security->permissions, and noted that the permissions 'seem' the same as at least two other folders.
> I can read and copy files from the Win 7 c:\users\ sub-dir, but cannot copy file *to* the Win 7 c:\users\ folder (access denied)/
>
> Thanks again for your offer. If there is some 'permission' steps you can suggest, I'll try them.
>
> Frustrating !.
>
> -Mel
Hi Jayadev:
it is now working !!
I was adding permission to everyone in C:\ rather than the network C Shared drive. Wow What a revelation.
Thanks for your support.
-Mel

Il 17/12/2021 00:37, Mel Smith ha scritto:

> it is now working !!
> I was adding permission to everyone in C:\ rather than the network C Shared drive. Wow What a revelation.

Great!

EMG

http://www.emagsoftware.it
http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 1:51:03 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
> Il 17/12/2021 00:37, Mel Smith ha scritto:
>
> > it is now working !!
> > I was adding permission to everyone in C:\ rather than the network C Shared drive. Wow What a revelation.
> Great!

Thanks ! Its good to be in control of my machines again :)
But, my main development machine is truly failing, so I bought today a new laptop and will get delivery at the end of December.
It is a Dell Inspiron 3510 15.6 inch display, 8GB Ram, 512GD SSD, etc, etc.
Then, comes the transfer of all my systems to it from my backup: a Western Digital Passport drive.
Arggg ..
-Mel

Enrico

YES .. agreed, you must add the group Everyone with rights to your share .... just curious why you have to map a drive .. when you can use a UNC instead ??

Use( "\\sales\myapp\Customer.dbf" ) ... where the shared computer name is \\Sales and the shared folder is \myapp

Rick Lipkin

Dear Rick Lipkin:

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 7:25:26 AM UTC-7, Rick Lipkin wrote:

I am not Enrico, but...

> ... just curious why you have to map a drive .. when you can use a UNC instead ??
>
> Use( "\\sales\myapp\Customer.dbf" ) ... where the shared computer name
> is \\Sales and the shared folder is \myapp

Drive mapping under earlier version of Windoze, produced faster search results (at minimum). May or may not still be an issue in Windows 10.
<https://superuser.com/questions/1628244/what-are-the-benefits-of-windows-map-network-drive>
.... and there have been cases when the UNC path was faster (Server 2016 for example).

I periodically have to have a replacement "server" running (eg: \\sales AND \\sales2) at the same time during transitions, and if you map a drive, then you don't have to touch your code as often when that happens. Whatever server you've mapped your drive to, is the one the code talks to.

David A. Smith

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:09:27 AM UTC-7, dlzc wrote:
> Dear Rick Lipkin:
>
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 7:25:26 AM UTC-7, Rick Lipkin wrote:
>
> I am not Enrico, but...
> > ... just curious why you have to map a drive .. when you can use a UNC instead ??
> >
> > Use( "\\sales\myapp\Customer.dbf" ) ... where the shared computer name
> > is \\Sales and the shared folder is \myapp
> Drive mapping under earlier version of Windoze, produced faster search results (at minimum). May or may not still be an issue in Windows 10.
> <https://superuser.com/questions/1628244/what-are-the-benefits-of-windows-map-network-drive>
> ... and there have been cases when the UNC path was faster (Server 2016 for example).
>
> I periodically have to have a replacement "server" running (eg: \\sales AND \\sales2) at the same time during transitions, and if you map a drive, then you don't have to touch your code as often when that happens. Whatever server you've mapped your drive to, is the one the code talks to.
>
> David A. Smith

Hi David:
I agree, and also I have many batch files where I use the mapped J: drive which is 'Persistent'. Works great now.
-Mel