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* Discontinuation of Advantagedcbienemann@aol.com
`* Re: Discontinuation of AdvantageWolfgang Riedmann
 +* Re: Discontinuation of AdvantageSebastián BASSANO
 |`- Re: Discontinuation of Advantagedcbienemann@aol.com
 `* Re: Discontinuation of Advantagedcbienemann@aol.com
  `* Re: Discontinuation of AdvantageWolfgang Riedmann
   `- Re: Discontinuation of AdvantageRobert Pope

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 by: dcbienemann@aol.com - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 00:29 UTC

Hi All,

I was wondering what others are doing or going to do about the discontinuation of Advantage (End of 2025)?

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 by: Wolfgang Riedmann - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 07:59 UTC

Hello,

> I was wondering what others are doing or going to do about the
> discontinuation of Advantage (End of 2025)?

we will continue to use it, but slowly change to other databases.

Only because they are discontinuing it, it will not stop to work.
There is a lot of software around that is discontinued or where the
producer does not exists anymore.

Wolfgang

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 by: Sebastián BASSANO - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 14:52 UTC

El Tuesday, January 24, 2023 a la(s) 4:59:48 AM UTC-3, Wolfgang Riedmann escribió:
> Hello,
> > I was wondering what others are doing or going to do about the
> > discontinuation of Advantage (End of 2025)?
> we will continue to use it, but slowly change to other databases.
>
> Only because they are discontinuing it, it will not stop to work.
> There is a lot of software around that is discontinued or where the
> producer does not exists anymore.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
> --
We have started to migrate to other database (for the moment PostgreSQL).
I ask you, do you know from where you can download products related to Advantage Database Server prior to version 12 (e.g. ODBC clients, etc). I am trying to access https://devzone.advantagedatabase.com to download what I need but it redirects me to https://community.sap.com/?Key=1.
We currently have clients using versions 9.1 and 11.1.
Regards.

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 by: dcbienemann@aol.com - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 16:11 UTC

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:59:48 AM UTC-6, Wolfgang Riedmann wrote:
> Hello,
> > I was wondering what others are doing or going to do about the
> > discontinuation of Advantage (End of 2025)?
> we will continue to use it, but slowly change to other databases.
>
> Only because they are discontinuing it, it will not stop to work.
> There is a lot of software around that is discontinued or where the
> producer does not exists anymore.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
> --
Wolfgang,

Thank you for your response.
That is pretty much what I was thinking too.
In your applications where you are slowly changing to other databases, what kind of databases are you changing to and what has been the level of effort/time?

Thank you,
Denise

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 by: dcbienemann@aol.com - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 11:16 UTC

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 8:52:33 AM UTC-6, Sebastián BASSANO wrote:
> El Tuesday, January 24, 2023 a la(s) 4:59:48 AM UTC-3, Wolfgang Riedmann escribió:
> > Hello,
> > > I was wondering what others are doing or going to do about the
> > > discontinuation of Advantage (End of 2025)?
> > we will continue to use it, but slowly change to other databases.
> >
> > Only because they are discontinuing it, it will not stop to work.
> > There is a lot of software around that is discontinued or where the
> > producer does not exists anymore.
> >
> > Wolfgang
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> We have started to migrate to other database (for the moment PostgreSQL).
> I ask you, do you know from where you can download products related to Advantage Database Server prior to version 12 (e.g. ODBC clients, etc). I am trying to access https://devzone.advantagedatabase.com to download what I need but it redirects me to https://community.sap.com/?Key=1.
> We currently have clients using versions 9.1 and 11.1.
> Regards.

Sebastian,
Thank you for your response to my question.
Follow-up questions for you:
What has been your level of effort/time where you have started to migrate to PostgreSQL?
Are you having good results with it?

I will have to do some research on your question and see what I can find out.

Thank you,
Denise

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 by: Wolfgang Riedmann - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 16:09 UTC

Hi Denise,

> That is pretty much what I was thinking too.
> In your applications where you are slowly changing to other
> databases, what kind of databases are you changing to and what has
> been the level of effort/time?

we are changing to PostgreSQL.

Since we think that changing from a sequential database like DBF or ADS
normally implies also a change in the user interaction, I cannot give
you an answer about the effort or time.
In fact it is a complete rewrite, and we change migrate table after
table.
For the integration into VO we are using a COM module based on our own
X# source code.

Wolfgang

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 by: Robert Pope - Wed, 17 May 2023 14:18 UTC

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:09:11 AM UTC+11, Wolfgang Riedmann wrote:
> Hi Denise,
> > That is pretty much what I was thinking too.
> > In your applications where you are slowly changing to other
> > databases, what kind of databases are you changing to and what has
> > been the level of effort/time?
> we are changing to PostgreSQL.
>
> Since we think that changing from a sequential database like DBF or ADS
> normally implies also a change in the user interaction, I cannot give
> you an answer about the effort or time.
> In fact it is a complete rewrite, and we change migrate table after
> table.
> For the integration into VO we are using a COM module based on our own
> X# source code.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> --

I don't suppose anyone has played with MariaDB using the Aria storage engine? From what I've read it should be a successor to MySQL's MyISAM storage engine: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/aria-faq/

It was about the only result when I was looking for ISAM alternatives to ADS. It seems like it might be a fit, but looks like we'd be loosing support for transactions, and seems to be a bit of a work in progress. I'm also not sure that the storage engine hasn't been abandoned.

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