Lately I get a lot of SPAM only in this Newsgroup. I am reading this
group via Mozilla Thunderbird. How can I block this SPAM about 300 till
600 messages a day or must someone who (say someone who has more
privileges do so) If not is there a better route to read this group and
block the SPAM

On 2023-12-07 12:21, ldries46 wrote:
> Lately I get a lot of SPAM only in this Newsgroup. I am reading this group via
> Mozilla Thunderbird. How can I block this SPAM about 300 till 600 messages a day
> or must someone who (say someone who has more privileges do so) If not is there
> a better route to read this group and block the SPAM

Yes, there is a lot of spam here. With Thunderbird, under Tools, is Message
Filters. You can create filters to mark most of it as read and to ignore the
thread. If you also set your View=>Threads to Threads with Unread, then you
won't see them.

--
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"Now look, Col. Batguano, if that really is your name."
Dr. Strangelove
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On 07/12/2023 11:36, Jeffrey R.Carter wrote:
> On 2023-12-07 12:21, ldries46 wrote:
>> Lately I get a lot of SPAM only in this Newsgroup. I am reading this
>> group via Mozilla Thunderbird. How can I block this SPAM about 300
>> till 600 messages a day or must someone who (say someone who has more
>> privileges do so) If not is there a better route to read this group
>> and block the SPAM
>
> Yes, there is a lot of spam here. With Thunderbird, under Tools, is
> Message Filters. You can create filters to mark most of it as read and
> to ignore the thread. If you also set your View=>Threads to Threads with
> Unread, then you won't see them.
>

These are the filters I have set up one one rule:

for each of these terms, subject -> contains ->

our ladies
escort
sex
model girls
stunning babe
call girl

and From -> contains -> angelchristinee07@gmail.com

That seems to cover most.

In article <nnd$5de7d841$38faa047@db6835260754ed96>,
ldries46 <bertus.dries@planet.nl> wrote:
>Lately I get a lot of SPAM only in this Newsgroup. I am reading this
>group via Mozilla Thunderbird. How can I block this SPAM about 300 till
>600 messages a day or must someone who (say someone who has more
>privileges do so) If not is there a better route to read this group and
>block the SPAM

I usually read Usenet newsgroups via new.eternal-september.org and
only very seldomly see a spam message in the comp.lang.ada newsgroup.

However, occasionally I check this newsgroup via Google Groups,
and there the last several weeks the amount of spam has increased
tremendously: indeed, several hundred a day!

For some time I have reported all of those as abuse.
When doing that Google claims:

"Google takes abuse of its services very seriously. We're committed
to dealing with such abuse according to the laws in your country of
residence. When you submit a report, we'll investigate it and take
the appropriate action. We'll get back to you only if we require
additional details or have more information to share."

But I haven't seen any impact, nor did I get any feedback.

So I guess only 2 ways remain to address this problem: either use a
newsreader that has sufficient "kill features" to junk most of those
spam messages, or switch to a newsserver that uses sophisticated
enough techniques to not distribute such spam in the first place.

HTH

Dirk

On 2023-12-07 17:51, Dirk Craeynest wrote:

> For some time I have reported all of those as abuse.
> When doing that Google claims:
>
> "Google takes abuse of its services very seriously. We're committed
> to dealing with such abuse according to the laws in your country of
> residence. When you submit a report, we'll investigate it and take
> the appropriate action. We'll get back to you only if we require
> additional details or have more information to share."

Hmm, something whispers me that the spam is a product of these esteemed
services... (:-))

--
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Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

Hi Dirk,

> I usually read Usenet newsgroups via new.eternal-september.org and
> only very seldomly see a spam message in the comp.lang.ada newsgroup.

A side question, have you find a solution to post using news.eternal-
september.org or is it read-only server? I can't send messages using
GNOME Evolution NNTP support.

Thanks,

--
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  The best way to travel is by means of imagination

  http://photos.obry.net

  gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B

On 12/7/23 11:39, Pascal Obry wrote:
> A side question, have you find a solution to post using news.eternal-
> september.org or is it read-only server? I can't send messages using
> GNOME Evolution NNTP support.

I believe that E-S requires authenticating to post.

You should be able to ask for help configuring authentication in the
eternal-september.support newsgroup without authenticating.

--
Grant. . . .

Le 07/12/2023 à 12:36, Jeffrey R.Carter a écrit :
> On 2023-12-07 12:21, ldries46 wrote:
>> Lately I get a lot of SPAM only in this Newsgroup. I am reading this
>> group via Mozilla Thunderbird. How can I block this SPAM about 300
>> till 600 messages a day or must someone who (say someone who has more
>> privileges do so) If not is there a better route to read this group
>> and block the SPAM
>
> Yes, there is a lot of spam here. With Thunderbird, under Tools, is
> Message Filters. You can create filters to mark most of it as read and
> to ignore the thread. If you also set your View=>Threads to Threads with
> Unread, then you won't see them.
>
I use a server which removes everything coming from google groups. No
more spam.

Le jeudi 07 décembre 2023 à 11:45 -0600, Grant Taylor a écrit :
> I believe that E-S requires authenticating to post.
>
> You should be able to ask for help configuring authentication in the
> eternal-september.support newsgroup without authenticating.

I had a account and read the doc there, all was configured as
advertised. I found the issue just after posting here, in GNOME
Evolution the NNTP posting does not work if you send NTTP message via
the outbox (that is, posting with a delay of 5 minutes). So a bug in
GNOME Evolution after all.

Thanks for the quick reply.

--
  Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)

  The best way to travel is by means of imagination

  http://photos.obry.net

  gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B

Hello Pascal,

>A side question, have you find a solution to post using news.eternal-
>september.org or is it read-only server? I can't send messages using
>GNOME Evolution NNTP support.

As you can see in the headers of my messages, they are posted via
eternal-september.org.

But I noticed in a later posting that you found the origin of your
problem is a bug in GNOME Evolution...

Dirk

On 12/7/23 12:04, Pascal Obry wrote:
> I had a account and read the doc there, all was configured as
> advertised. I found the issue just after posting here, in GNOME
> Evolution the NNTP posting does not work if you send NTTP message via
> the outbox (that is, posting with a delay of 5 minutes). So a bug in
> GNOME Evolution after all.

I'm glad that you got it figured out.

Email clients are decent, at best, news clients. ...as I type this in
an email client. ;-)

> Thanks for the quick reply.

You're welcome.

--
Grant. . . .

Le 07/12/2023 à 13:34, Luke A. Guest a écrit :
> On 07/12/2023 11:36, Jeffrey R.Carter wrote:
>> On 2023-12-07 12:21, ldries46 wrote:
>>> Lately I get a lot of SPAM only in this Newsgroup. I am reading this
>>> group via Mozilla Thunderbird. How can I block this SPAM about 300
>>> till 600 messages a day or must someone who (say someone who has more
>>> privileges do so) If not is there a better route to read this group
>>> and block the SPAM
>>
>> Yes, there is a lot of spam here. With Thunderbird, under Tools, is
>> Message Filters. You can create filters to mark most of it as read and
>> to ignore the thread. If you also set your View=>Threads to Threads
>> with Unread, then you won't see them.
>>
>
> These are the filters I have set up one one rule:
>
> for each of these terms, subject -> contains ->
>
> our ladies
> escort
> sex
> model girls
> stunning babe
> call girl
>
> and From -> contains -> angelchristinee07@gmail.com
>
> That seems to cover most.

Another solution might be adding a specific keyword in the subject of
the post as AdaCore does when you send a report:
"Make sure to include the "GNAT" keyword in the subject line, or your
mail will be automatically rejected."

For instance: "[comp.lang.ada] blah blah."

My 2 cents, Pascal.

Blady <p.p11@orange.fr> wrote:
>Another solution might be adding a specific keyword in the subject of
>the post [...] For instance: "[comp.lang.ada] blah blah."

As I mentioned on the Ada Forum [1] yesterday:

-------
Note that recently Google Groups started announcing that on 15
February 2024 they will stop supporting Usenet newsgroups, ie
posting from Google Groups will no longer be possible, nor reading
new postings from Usenet, only searching "old" content will remain
available.

While this might look negative at first sight, it will most probably
reduce the amount of spam in newsgroups tremendously, as the bulk
is currently posted via Google Groups.
-------

So with some luck, the spam influx should be reduced to a trickle in
a few months.

Dirk

[1] https://forum.ada-lang.io/t/gateway-to-comp-lang-ada/59/5?u=dirkcraeynest

> While this might look negative at first sight, it will most probably
> reduce the amount of spam in newsgroups tremendously, as the bulk
> is currently posted via Google Groups.

I deeply agree. GG was a nuisance. For the sake of email, I hope they
drop too gmail one day ;> (I know I'm dreaming)

--
Stéphane Rivière
Ile d'Oléron - France