So... I bought one of these recently (a 2022 model with < 1Kmi and ABS) and having a blast re-experiencing my youth. I've already put over 100 miles on it.
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My first very-own motorcycle, when I was about 13 years old, was a used Honda XR75 (1974). I rode the hell out of that bike, occasionally on city streets, often at night with no lights and no helmet (no, my parent did not know). She wasn't fast or good looking, but I loved her. I don't remember when I sold her, but after that, I owned an MX bike (RM250), some buggies and quads, but really nothing for 15+ years after breaking my collar bone after highsiding while doing donuts on my Suzuki Z400.

Rather than buy another XR, I opted for the Grom, which is more of a street bike (though there are street-legal XRs). It's been a blast riding (mostly alone and usually just on residental/empty streets) and reliving my youth. I bought new safety gear and have been doing some cosmetic mods on the bike.

Anyone else own a Grom or other motorcycle you ride often?

When I see a dangerous motorcyclist or accident, I always think: "What an idiot" and really judge them for riding a motorcycle on streets in the first place. So I definitely have no danger/death wish, but the experience just can't be beat, I don't think. I have a greater understanding why people continue to make that risk/choice.
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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Feb 26 2024 05:46 pm

> place. So I definitely have no danger/death wish, but the experience just ca
> be beat, I don't think. I have a greater understanding why people continue t

I've never owned a fast motorcycle or anything, but I do have a Vespa-style
electric scooter that has taken me around a few places. Totally agree about the
experience. I would've liked to have a bigger/more serious bike, but like you
said above.. and I worry it'd be another thing taking up all the space in the
garage :). Probably shouldn't these days, anyway. Congrats on that Honda! It
looks really nice.

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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Feb 26 2024 05:46 pm

> When I see a dangerous motorcyclist or accident, I always think: "What an
> idiot" and really judge them for riding a motorcycle on streets in the first
> place. So I definitely have no danger/death wish, but the experience just
> can't be beat, I don't think. I have a greater understanding why people
> continue to make that risk/choice.

i've broken my arm on a bike when i was a kid and I know experienced people who have really got messed up because of other drivers.

make sure you drive in a safe place and wear some type of protection. don't skimp on hand protection, too.

i come from a family of experience motorcyclists and I would not own a motorcycle, especially considering everyone is on their phone now while driving.
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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Feb 26 2024 05:46 pm

DM> When I see a dangerous motorcyclist or accident, I always think: "What an
DM> idiot" and really judge them for riding a motorcycle on streets in the
DM> first place. So I definitely have no danger/death wish, but the experience
DM> just can't be beat, I don't think. I have a greater understanding why
DM> people continue to make that risk/choice.

I feel bad for those who get hurt like that in motorcycle accidents. There have been times when I thought it would be nice to have a road cruiser motorcycle (these days, perhaps a Honda Shadow), but I feel like they're too dangerous, so I'm not planning on buying one.

DM> Rather than buy another XR, I opted for the Grom, which is more of a
DM> street bike (though there are street-legal XRs). It's been a blast riding
DM> (mostly alone and usually just on residental/empty streets) and reliving

When you said "judge them for riding a motorcycle on streets" earlier, did you mean more busy streets/highways?

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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Feb 27 2024 09:15 am

> i've broken my arm on a bike when i was a kid and I know experienced people
> who have really got messed up because of other drivers.

I've had some good crashes off-road, but nothing on-road (yet). Knock on wood.

> make sure you drive in a safe place and wear some type of protection. don't
> skimp on hand protection, too.

Yup, I bought all new gear. The new modular helment with built in bluetooth and sun visor is really nice. I see they have airbag clothing now too. That looks interesting.

> i come from a family of experience motorcyclists and I would not own a
> motorcycle, especially considering everyone is on their phone now while
> driving.

I don't plan to drive around vehicles much. I assume if something really bad's going to happen, that it's likely going to involve a vehicle. So yeah, well aware. I plan to take the safety courses and get licensed so I have the option of driving on streets (e.g. to get gas), but mostly I'm just puttering around residental streets.
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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Feb 27 2024 09:17 am

> DM> Rather than buy another XR, I opted for the Grom, which is more of a
> DM> street bike (though there are street-legal XRs). It's been a blast
> DM> riding (mostly alone and usually just on residental/empty streets) and
> DM> reliving
>
> When you said "judge them for riding a motorcycle on streets" earlier, did
> you mean more busy streets/highways?

Yeah, like a freeway. Or those fast sport bikes on twisty roads, that looks insanely dangerous.
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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Feb 26 2024 05:46 pm

Howdy,

> Anyone else own a Grom or other motorcycle you ride often?

For me, not any more :(

I used to own a Suzuki GSXR 600 - and I loved riding that bike.

When I owned it, there were no tolls on highways (because toll cameras took a photo at the front, and bikes didnt have a front number plate), and in Melbourne you could park *anywhere*, as long as you didnt disrupt vehicles or pedestrians. So I used to ride to work and park on the footpath (sidewalk) - no parking charges :)

Getting to work via a car was a 60 min drive (for 17klm), but on the bike it was 20ish. Lane splitting/filtering made all the difference.

In the 6 years that I had that bike, I only had 1 car driver, who to this day dont know why he was upset - but he did try hard to block me lane splitting at lights (sped around me a to block me, horn blaring). Once I figured out what he was doing, I just zoomed off between the traffic.

I used to visit a friend and a customer that was 200klm away, and riding the bike there was awesome. It was too easy to get over 150klm/hr - so I had to watch my speed (speed limit was 110 back then if I recall).

Certainly the onus is on the bike rider for safety - you need to learn to read car drivers, and I had good advice from a couple of courses I did, and it did save me once when I predicted (and it did) that a limo would cross a road when I was doing 100klm/hr. Had I not backed off early, I probably wouldnt have lost the bike that day and more.

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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Feb 27 2024 09:17 am

>
> I feel bad for those who get hurt like that in motorcycle accidents. There
> have been times when I thought it would be nice to have a road cruiser
> motorcycle (these days, perhaps a Honda Shadow), but I feel like they're too
> dangerous, so I'm not planning on buying one.
>

my coworker's brother was an accomplished motorcycle rider but he was taking
a trip to sturgis with his wife and he got ran off the road.

they don't know how long they were laying on the road before they were found.
he died on the operating table. his wife had to have a leg amputated and his mother (who was a great person) died of a broken heart.

"RACINE - Paul Finley loved fishing, riding his Harley, his wife, Cyndi, and his children, but of course not in that order.

"They've only been married about a year," Finley's sister Tammy Segura said. "They were made for each other. They were truly in love."

Paul Finley died about 1:40 a.m. Thursday at the University of Iowa Hospital in Iowa City. Hanson Funeral Home, 3014 Northwestern Ave., Racine, will be handling the arrangements.

Finley and Cyndi Knapp-Finley of Racine were seriously injured in a motorcycle accident July 26 near Iowa City, Iowa.

Finley was well-liked and well-loved by his family and friends, Segura said. In addition to being loved by others, he also loved them in return. "He has three children who he loved but he didn't get to see them enough," Segura said.

People are also reading.
Segura remembers Finley as the big brother, who along with his twin brother, loved fishing so much they didn't want to quit when it got dark.

"I remember them fishing when they were teenagers and my dad had to go looking for them because it was getting dark. Paul said, `I've got to catch this one last fish,' " Segura said.

Finley's love of fishing earned him grand prize honors in the 1993 Salmon-A-Rama fishing contest. He caught a 34.30-pound Chinook salmon.

He also was the big brother who was there for his sister when her son was born.

"When my son was born, my husband was nervous, so Paul kept taking him down to the lunch room and feeding him. He would come back and tell me what Paul had fed him. He kept my husband well-fed while I was in labor," Segura said.

The couple was on their way to a family reunion in Nebraska when the accident happened in a construction zone near Davenport.

A car cut off their motorcycle, said Harry Raboldt, Knapp-Finley's father.

Raboldt said Paul Finley died following surgery. "He had too many things going against him. He was on dialysis and his liver was failing, he just had too many things going against him," Raboldt sighed.

However, Knapp-Finley continues to improve and he hopes she will get out of intensive care in about a week. She hasn't been told about Finley's death because the doctors feel it might set back her recovery, Raboldt said.

Nancy Harmann, the friend who helped set up the benefit fund for the couple, isn't sure what direction the fund will take now.

"I'm just in shock," Harmann said of Finley's death. "I haven't decided what to do about the fund we'll probably do something in Paul's name. But Cyndi is going to need a lot of support," Harmann said.

Harmann and Knapp-Finley's co-workers at Regency Mall established a special savings account for the couple to help defray their medical expenses. The Knapp-Finley Benefit Trust is at the Johnson Bank at 5901 Durand Ave.

Mall manager Curt Pruitt said the families have asked that all expressions of sympathy be sent to Paul Finley's mother: Barb Finley, 1012 William St., Racine, WI 53402."
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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Feb 27 2024 01:28 pm

> Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
> By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Feb 27 2024 09:15 am
>
> > i've broken my arm on a bike when i was a kid and I know experienced
> > people who have really got messed up because of other drivers.
>
> I've had some good crashes off-road, but nothing on-road (yet). Knock on
> wood.
>

i was on the road, then i became off road. some people removed some construction baracades and i went into a section where the road was cut off.
then i went to the bar that was on the corner and ordered 2 strong long island ice teas and had my friend pick me up. i stick napkins on my arm to soak up the blood.

> I don't plan to drive around vehicles much. I assume if something really
> bad's going to happen, that it's likely going to involve a vehicle. So yeah,
> well aware. I plan to take the safety courses and get licensed so I have the
> option of driving on streets (e.g. to get gas), but mostly I'm just
> puttering around residental streets.

around my region it's also dangerous around rural areas. people blow stop signs and plow into motorcycles. it's like they're invisible.
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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Feb 27 2024 04:31 pm

MR> my coworker's brother was an accomplished motorcycle rider but he was
MR> taking a trip to sturgis with his wife and he got ran off the road.

MR> they don't know how long they were laying on the road before they were
MR> found. he died on the operating table. his wife had to have a leg
MR> amputated and his mother (who was a great person) died of a broken heart.

That's really sad. :( I'm sorry to hear.

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>i come from a family of experience motorcyclists and I would not own a motorcyc
>e, especially considering everyone is on their phone now while driving.

This is a discouragement, even when bicycling or just walking. :(

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>Yeah, like a freeway. Or those fast sport bikes on twisty roads, that looks ins
>nely dangerous.

That is apparently a past time on the twisty mountain roads between Santa
Clarita and Burbank/Glendale/Pasadena, even on foggy days.

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-=> Digital Man wrote to All <=-

DM> My first very-own motorcycle, when I was about 13 years old, was a used
DM> Honda XR75 (1974). I rode the hell out of that bike, occasionally on
DM> city streets, often at night with no lights and no helmet (no, my
DM> parent did not know). She wasn't fast or good looking, but I loved her.

Back in the late 80s, you could find 250-450cc rat bikes for cheap (or
free). I picked up a Yamaha Special II 400 that was left in someone's
back yard under the stairs - the owner had moved out of the group house
years ago and was nowhere to be seen. Fixing old bikes is a lot of fun
if you have some basic skills.

I rode that thing around San Francisco for a year before it was stolen;
I told myself I'd never buy a bike again that a couple of people could
pick up and put in a truck.

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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimot
By: Mike Powell to MRO on Wed Feb 28 2024 09:09 am

> >i come from a family of experience motorcyclists and I would not own a
> motorcyc
> >e, especially considering everyone is on their phone now while driving.
>
> This is a discouragement, even when bicycling or just walking. :(
>

yeah you have to be hyper vigilant.
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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimot
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Feb 27 2024 01:30 pm

> Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
> By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Feb 27 2024 09:17 am
>
> > DM> Rather than buy another XR, I opted for the Grom, which is more of a
> > DM> street bike (though there are street-legal XRs). It's been a blast
> > DM> riding (mostly alone and usually just on residental/empty streets) a
> > DM> reliving
> >
> > When you said "judge them for riding a motorcycle on streets" earlier, di
> > you mean more busy streets/highways?
>
> Yeah, like a freeway. Or those fast sport bikes on twisty roads, that looks
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> This Is Spinal Tap quote #14:
> The Boston gig has been cancelled. [Don't] worry, it's not a big college tow
> Norco, CA WX: 63.1°F, 68.0% humidity, 5 mph WNW wind, 0.06 inches rain/24hrs
>

Should have seen me in Japan! Almost 7 years, I used feet or my beloved
cultech workhourse bicycle. Not the racing models they export, this was the
heavy duty 15 speed that weighed more than me! Frame warenteed for 40 years
outside storage. I sold it to the Newport News shipyard for 2,000$. It was 20
years old. Sadly my spine problems got too bad to ride.

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Re: Honda Grom (125cc minimoto) Motorcycle
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Feb 27 2024 07:45 pm

>
> MR> they don't know how long they were laying on the road before they were
> MR> found. he died on the operating table. his wife had to have a leg
> MR> amputated and his mother (who was a great person) died of a broken
> MR> heart.
>
> That's really sad. :( I'm sorry to hear.

yeah his mom was a great person and also a coworker of mine. it killed her.
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