'It's bittersweet': Video rental store to shut its doors after
40 years in business..

https://bb.vg/Kgyq

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/03/16/its-bittersweet-video-
rental-store-to-shut-its-doors-after-40-years-in-business/

""Hollywood went on strike and that was the nail in the coffin.
We went so many months without movies," he said.

"Now, the strike is settled, but it's too late. People aren't coming back. The masses aren't going to come back to support the business."

Fuhl used to bring in an average of 36 new movie titles in a month. He said for all of last year, he had 14.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Ogg to All on Sun Mar 24 2024 11:07 am

> 'It's bittersweet': Video rental store to shut its doors after
> 40 years in business..
>

I keep saying Hollywood is going through creative bankrupcy. I don't see peopleconsuming movies as they used to because sequels/prequels/remakes are already
losing their luster.

That said, I don't think the crisis in movie rental comes from the fact modern
movies suck.

I am so glad I can keep watching old movies forever.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Apr 01 2024 04:29 pm

>
> I keep saying Hollywood is going through creative bankrupcy. I don't see
> peopleconsuming movies as they used to because sequels/prequels/remakes are
> already
> losing their luster.
>
> That said, I don't think the crisis in movie rental comes from the fact
> modern movies suck.
>
> I am so glad I can keep watching old movies forever.
>

yeah they suck but also a lot of people are streaming.
only crazy people have vhs players nowadays. i'd rather get something via streaming than to go a store.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Apr 01 2024 04:29 pm

Ar> I keep saying Hollywood is going through creative bankrupcy. I don't see
Ar> people consuming movies as they used to because sequels/prequels/remakes
Ar> are already
Ar> losing their luster.

I feel that way too, as it seems like there isn't as much creativity with new stories these days, with all the remakes and such. Honestly though I am looking forward to the Beetlejuice sequel coming out later this year (and from the teaser trailer it looks like it could be good). One thing I've been tired of for a while now is prequels.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Apr 01 2024 05:56 pm

MR> yeah they suck but also a lot of people are streaming. only crazy people
MR> have vhs players nowadays.

I think there are a lot of people with a collection of movies & such on old formats that they don't want to replace (due to what it would cost, or just not wanting to bother). And for people who still use physical media, I've been hearing that DVDs are still selling more than newer formats such as blu-ray (and 4K blu-ray) because there are a lot of people who just have DVD players and/or don't care about updating to something newer, or don't understand what advantage blu-ray offers over DVD.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 01 2024 04:50 pm

> I think there are a lot of people with a collection of movies & such on old
> formats that they don't want to replace (due to what it would cost, or just
> not wanting to bother). And for people who still use physical media, I've
> been hearing that DVDs are still selling more than newer formats such as
> blu-ray (and 4K blu-ray) because there are a lot of people who just have DVD
> players and/or don't care about updating to something newer, or don't
> understand what advantage blu-ray offers over DVD.

Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media. It's so much easier to go get it via a streaming service. People are getting past the phase of owning something that will just take up space.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Apr 01 2024 05:56 pm

> yeah they suck but also a lot of people are streaming.
> only crazy people have vhs players nowadays. i'd rather get something via
> streaming than to go a store.

I have an VCR, but I used it for digitizing my movies long ago. I keep it handy just in case.

A lot of good movies are not easy to find from streaming or even shady sources. I like having copies of everything that is good because you are not guaranteed to be able to find it later.

I had an VHS with a movie I recorded from TV when I was a kid. A couple of months ago I learnt that movie was considered lost for a long time because no complete copies of it remained. It turned out my crappy VHS copy was one of the remaining sources for that movie.

Too bad somebody else had a copy too and submitted it in order to get all the credit :-)

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-=> MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

MR> Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in
MR> business
MR> By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 01 2024 04:50 pm

> I think there are a lot of people with a collection of movies & such on old
> formats that they don't want to replace (due to what it would cost, or just
> not wanting to bother). And for people who still use physical media, I've
> been hearing that DVDs are still selling more than newer formats such as
> blu-ray (and 4K blu-ray) because there are a lot of people who just have DVD
> players and/or don't care about updating to something newer, or don't
> understand what advantage blu-ray offers over DVD.

MR> Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media.

That day is still a long ways off.

MR> It's so much easier to go get it via a streaming service.

What if you don't have an internet connection? When would that be, you
ask? Well.... for starters: When there's an extended (a week) power
outage. Yes, that happens where there are hurricanes. Or maybe you're
out camping in an RV in the boonies. There are plenty of other
situations where physical media is handy.

MR> People are getting past the phase of owning something that will just
MR> take up space.

See above re: long ways off.

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> Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media. It's so much easier to
> get it via a streaming service. People are getting past the phase of owning
> mething that will just take up space.

The issue with streaming, for someone who thinks like me anyway, is that
there are so many services you would have to subscribe to in order to get
what you want. I know people who have replaced cable with streaming but
when I talk to them about what services they have, and then calculate the
cost, cable (and owning physical media) comes out cheaper.

I do get the take up space bit, though. I am old enough that I have a lot
of VHS tapes that I recorded things on over the years. A lot of them are
getting thrown out as I get a chance. They take up a lot of space on
shelves that could be used for things I would get more use out of now.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 01 2024 10:21 pm

MR> Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media. It's so much easier
MR> to go get it via a streaming service. People are getting past the phase
MR> of owning something that will just take up space.

That's something I don't really agree with. While it's easier to get via streaming, streaming services often remove content from their services. Lately I've seen more and more people complain online about this, and I've seen people say they've actually started buying more physical media because they're tired of streaming services removing content they want to watch. Or, content may be initially included with your service, and suddenly they start charging a 'rental' fee to watch it. I've also heard some (rare) cases where people have bought a movie on a streaming service and it was later removed at some point.

Also, if you care, physical media offers a lot better visual & audio quality than streaming.

I still like to buy physical media for stuff I really like, so that I own it and don't have to worry about it disappearing. And I have a media server at home, and I tend to rip my stuff and put it on my media server so it can be more easily watched. Best of both worlds.

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Re: Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Gamgee to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 07:59 am

Ga> What if you don't have an internet connection? When would that be, you
Ga> ask? Well.... for starters: When there's an extended (a week) power
Ga> outage. Yes, that happens where there are hurricanes. Or maybe you're
Ga> out camping in an RV in the boonies. There are plenty of other situations
Ga> where physical media is handy.

Yep. Sometimes streaming services remove content that people want to watch (I've been seeing people complain about this more and more lately). And sometimes you can run into buffering issues with streaming services, if there's a server issue somewhere or if too many people are trying to use the service at the same time.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:41 am

DW> I do get the take up space bit, though. I am old enough that I have a lot
DW> of VHS tapes that I recorded things on over the years. A lot of them are
DW> getting thrown out as I get a chance. They take up a lot of space on
DW> shelves that could be used for things I would get more use out of now.

There are a lot of things people like to do, hobbies, interests, etc. that involve things that take up space.. Some people like to read books and might have a collection of books that take up space. Or, some of us in the BBS community enjoy retro computers and might have a collection of computer hardware & accessories taking up space. Or, someone who likes working on cars might have a bunch of tools taking up space in the garage (and sometimes even a small collection of cars they're working on fixing up). The list goes on..

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Arelor to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 07:10 am

> I have an VCR, but I used it for digitizing my movies long ago. I keep it
> handy just in case.
>
> A lot of good movies are not easy to find from streaming or even shady
> sources. I like having copies of everything that is good because you are not
> guaranteed to be able to find it later.
>
> I had an VHS with a movie I recorded from TV when I was a kid. A couple of
> months ago I learnt that movie was considered lost for a long time because
> no complete copies of it remained. It turned out my crappy VHS copy was one
> of the remaining sources for that movie.
>
> Too bad somebody else had a copy too and submitted it in order to get all
> the credit :-)
>

oh i'm pretty sure i can get any movie online now.
also we have a program with our libraries where you can order stuff from all over the state and have it shuttled over for free and you can check it out.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:41 am

> The issue with streaming, for someone who thinks like me anyway, is that
> there are so many services you would have to subscribe to in order to get
> what you want. I know people who have replaced cable with streaming but
> when I talk to them about what services they have, and then calculate the
> cost, cable (and owning physical media) comes out cheaper.

cable is expensive though. especially when you have internet/tv/phone.

it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service.
or be like me and download whatever you want and use plex.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 09:25 am

> I still like to buy physical media for stuff I really like, so that I own it
> and don't have to worry about it disappearing. And I have a media server at
> home, and I tend to rip my stuff and put it on my media server so it can be
> more easily watched. Best of both worlds.
>

well there's some people that get attached to physical things, and some that dont. i threw all my movie and music collections away and i just keep digital copies of them. they are mkv and they wont get deleted by some service.

if i lose the files i just download them from someplace.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Tue Apr 02 2024 09:53 am

> There are a lot of things people like to do, hobbies, interests, etc. that
> involve things that take up space.. Some people like to read books and
> might have a collection of books that take up space. Or, some of us in the
> BBS community enjoy retro computers and might have a collection of computer
> hardware & accessories taking up space. Or, someone who likes working on
> cars might have a bunch of tools taking up space in the garage (and
> sometimes even a small collection of cars they're working on fixing up).
> The list goes on..

yeah but it's nice to toss all that out and not have clutter.
cars and tools i would keep. just as long as the cars arent littering the yard
and making an eye sore out of the property.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Apr 02 2024 04:43 pm

MR> it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service. or be like me
MR> and download whatever you want and use plex.

Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have cable TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use Plex to DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like Jeopardy, Family Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the commercials.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 05:01 pm

> Re: Video rental store to shu
> By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Apr 02 2024 04:43 pm
>
> MR> it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service. or be like
> MR> me and download whatever you want and use plex.
>
> Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have cable
> TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use Plex to
> DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like Jeopardy, Family
> Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the commercials.
>

i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch specific tv shows.
we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for background noise.

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-=> MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

> MR> it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service. or be like
> MR> me and download whatever you want and use plex.

> Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have cable
> TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use Plex to
> DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like Jeopardy, Family
> Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the commercials.

MR> i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch
MR> specific tv shows.

Ummmm.... that's exactly what a tuner/DVR/Plex gives you. What gets
recorded is only what *YOU* choose. Isn't that obvious?

MR> we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for
MR> background noise.

Who said anything about that?

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>DW> I do get the take up space bit, though. I am old enough that I have a lot
>DW> of VHS tapes that I recorded things on over the years. A lot of them are
>DW> getting thrown out as I get a chance. They take up a lot of space on
>DW> shelves that could be used for things I would get more use out of now.

> There are a lot of things people like to do, hobbies, interests, etc. that inv
> ve things that take up space.. Some people like to read books and might have
> collection of books that take up space. Or, some of us in the BBS community e
> oy retro computers and might have a collection of computer hardware & accessor
> s taking up space. Or, someone who likes working on cars might have a bunch o
> tools taking up space in the garage (and sometimes even a small collection of
> rs they're working on fixing up). The list goes on..

That is sort of my thinking here, though. If I get rid of the VHS tapes, I
have a lot more space for books or other hobby things. ;)

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> > The issue with streaming, for someone who thinks like me anyway, is that
> > there are so many services you would have to subscribe to in order to get
> > what you want. I know people who have replaced cable with streaming but
> > when I talk to them about what services they have, and then calculate the
> > cost, cable (and owning physical media) comes out cheaper.

> cable is expensive though. especially when you have internet/tv/phone.

> it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service.
> or be like me and download whatever you want and use plex.

*A* streaming service, yes. But then what happens when not everything you
want to watch is on that one service? If you are like a lot of people I
know, you get another service... and then another... and then soon it is no
longer cheaper than cable.

When I say "cable" I am not counting the internet or phone in the cost
because (1) I have to have the internet (probably from cable) to get the
streaming service which also makes it a part of the streaming service cost,
and (2) streaming services won't replace the phone.

That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is
cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet
which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying
for that separately, they don't count it either.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Apr 03 2024 12:34 am

>> Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have
>> cable TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use
>> Plex to DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like
>> Jeopardy, Family Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the
>> commercials.

MR> i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch specific tv
MR> shows. we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for
MR> background noise.

I don't leave the TV on all day either, and there are specific TV shows I watch from over the air.. I'm not sure I understand your response here. Over-the-air TV is just another way of watching certain shows - some shows are available on over-the-air, and other shows are available elsewhere.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:42 am

DW> That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is
DW> cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet
DW> which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are
DW> paying for that separately, they don't count it either.

I use the internet for a lot of things, so I wouldn't necessarily count it as a cost for a streaming service. I'm going to have internet service regardless of whether I use a streaming service or not.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:42 am

> *A* streaming service, yes. But then what happens when not everything you
> want to watch is on that one service? If you are like a lot of people I
> know, you get another service... and then another... and then soon it is no
> longer cheaper than cable.
>

just download shit like me.
or you can subscribe to an iptv provider.

> When I say "cable" I am not counting the internet or phone in the cost
> because (1) I have to have the internet (probably from cable) to get the
> streaming service which also makes it a part of the streaming service cost,
> and (2) streaming services won't replace the phone.
>

you can get cable only and just get ooma or something like that

> That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is
> cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet
> which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying
> for that separately, they don't count it either.

usually you will save money by not having cable tv and using streaming.if you are someone who watches tons of shit maybe you will have to get multiple services. shop around. we did it the legit way and saved money. and we do it both ways now. the woman pays for streaming and i download whatever i want.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 09:30 am

> MR> i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch specific
> MR> tv shows. we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day
> MR> for background noise.
>
> I don't leave the TV on all day either, and there are specific TV shows I
> watch from over the air.. I'm not sure I understand your response here.

what i'm saying is we watch specific things and we get them specificially.

you watch over the air and that is extremely rare. what you are getting over the air is probably something you can get for free or off some streaming service.

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